I guess this is to be expected. Things can change at the drop of a dime for Ground Zero.

Thanks for the comparison. I've been studying the design closer and now I see how it achieves both looks. Pretty cool if you ask me. I like this design a lot.

A lot better than the former birdcage design, hey?

Still no word yet on who will install the elevators and escelators yet. I hope it will be Otis.

Another look at the sublevel entrance to the observation deck...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/78077746/original.jpg


The office lobby...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/78077798/original.jpg

Yeah, the first view makes it look like a clone of 1 WTC, while the second gives you something completely different.

Too bad that there's no rendering of the obs deck and restaurant yet.

I am confused!!
On wikipedia site of the Freedom Tower I have read that it will have 108 stories, but that the last 6 are unoccupated and don't count and so the stories are 102. Then I have read that the real stories are only 82, because some mechnical floors ( 1-19 and 91-100 floors ) are counted as 3.
What does mean it? I think that if 1 mechnical floor is high 3 meter or 9 meter it is still 1 floor !!!!
On the site is written that there is a proposed OUTDOOR OBSERVATORY on the top of the building.
Can somebody explain me what will be the REAL NUMBER FLOORS of the Freedom Tower ( example 69 office floors, 2 restaurants floors, 2 Tv equipments floors, 2 lobby floors, 1 indoor deck floor and ?????? real mechnical floors )

There are, to my knowllege, 82 floors for offices, the restaurant and obs deck, as well as retail space.

The other 15 or so floors don't count as public, office space or retail, therefore, the actual floor count IS supposed to be 82.

Those other floors, as you know, will be used for mechanical purposes such as electrical, elevator machinery, HVAC, etc.. I imagine that these "dead" floors will be grouped in sections like the 6 mec. floors at the top.

It still has yet to be officially confirmed as to whether or not the outdoor obs deck be included.

Excellent in the first view...really retarded in the second.

Where's the retail space at?

Most of, or some of it is supposed to be below street level.

The rest would be divided up amongst the towers on street level.

Hmmm.

Quite honestly, I think the first view is rather awkward, and the second far more elegant - it looks almost like the main mast of a ship with a sail, sort of like that tower in Dubai, but better for being understated.

Still, I think that once the entire complex is done there will be angles from which the FT and 2 WTC will remind one of the old Twins...

The second view makes the building look "bloated" got some love handles and some JLO hips. maybe it will look better than the rendering.

Nothing wrong with some J-lo hips.. but only as long as there's a J-lo ass out back too! :D

wow, that was completely uncalled for, and completely funny. I totally agree!!

:cheers:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/226/4...ce64404a_o.jpg

Oh Yeah.

thats the first thing that ive seen that accurately represents the height of tower 2 vs tower 1

Looking at the base of the FT's spire in that model, it would appear that the "ring" or "doughnut" isn't actually resting on the roof - it looks like it's actually suspended off the main shaft of the spire by those cables. Interesting if true.

Yeah, heightwise 1 and 2 are veritable twins, aren't they?

You're right.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/62776423/large.jpg