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CityBoyDoug Dec 9, 2018 10:08 AM

[QUOTE=CityBoyDoug;8403248]

https://www.losangeles.va.gov/images...LA_480x330.jpg va.gov.

I've been there several times.....first class ...gold standard medical care.

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 9, 2018 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8403174)
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for that matter
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/jJb3tp.jpg

Is this cool looking theater still standing?


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Google Maps 3-D view is your friend, the theater is still there. Here's the Google Street View:
https://i.postimg.cc/0yysm8sN/Annota...-09-033509.jpgGSV

The back of the theater is on Wilshire.

ethereal_reality Dec 9, 2018 12:43 PM

:previous: Excellent! It's still standing. *wipes brow*

ethereal_reality Dec 9, 2018 2:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8403190)
In this snippet from Cheryl Crane's autobiography, she says the club was The Summit which was located at 6507 Sunset Blvd.

https://i.imgur.com/Ag3Tvvr.jpg
Google Books - Detour: A Hollywood Story

Thanks so much Noir Noir. I looked everywhere trying to figure out the name of the club. (except for Cheryl Crain's book)

CityBoyDoug Dec 9, 2018 3:21 PM

[QUOTE=CityBoyDoug;8403248]...

https://www.losangeles.va.gov/images...es-558x389.jpg va.gov

master plan to reshape the VA LA campus. Even now its a world-class medical center with a budget in the billions.

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 9, 2018 8:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8403174)
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Hmmm...so what's the difference between Brentwood and Wadsworth Hospitals?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/jhOjIP.jpg
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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/k68Uqt.jpg
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I'll post a portion of the 1956 aerial later, but the configuration of the buildings on it seem to indicate that the Wadsworth buildings were razed to build the West LA VA. The Bentwood buildings mostly remain.

I guess the difference between the two(other than still standing) is Brentwood is north of Wilshire and Wadsworth was south of Wilshire.

ethereal_reality Dec 9, 2018 11:12 PM

:previous: Thanks for answering my question BillinGlendale. I appreciate it.

If I remember correctly, there's also a hazardous waste dump nearby (detritus from the hospital and labs).

I'ii check Google-Earth to see if I can figure out where it is.

ethereal_reality Dec 9, 2018 11:29 PM

Here's how the V.A. Hospital looked when it was known as the Sawtelle Veterans Home.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/4kPU95.jpg
wiki

Most of the 1890s era buildings were demolished in the 1960s.

I'm pretty sure we have seen this amazing photograph once (or twice) before on NLA.

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 10, 2018 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8403568)
Here's how the V.A. Hospital looked when it was known as the Sawtelle Veterans Home.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/4kPU95.jpg
wiki

Most of the 1890s era buildings were demolished in the 1960s.

I'm pretty sure we have seen this amazing photograph once (or twice) before on NLA.

The chapel is still there, you can see it from Wilshire. I'm pretty sure the 1890 buildings were long gone before the 1960's, the current buildings show up on the 1956 aerial.

CityBoyDoug Dec 10, 2018 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8403568)
Here's how the V.A. Hospital looked when it was known as the Sawtelle Veterans Home.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/4kPU95.jpg
wiki

Most of the 1890s era buildings were demolished in the 1960s.

I'm pretty sure we have seen this amazing photograph once (or twice) before on NLA.

Many of the patients were Civil War veterans.

CityBoyDoug Dec 10, 2018 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8403559)
:previous: Thanks for answering my question BillinGlendale. I appreciate it.

If I remember correctly, there's also a hazardous waste dump nearby (detritus from the hospital and labs).

I'ii check Google-Earth to see if I can figure out where it is.

Many or most of those old buildings were torn down due to earthquake damage and obvious obsolescence. Most hospital buildings have a life-span of about 50 years.

odinthor Dec 10, 2018 2:26 AM

[QUOTE=CityBoyDoug;8403261]
Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8403248)

https://www.losangeles.va.gov/images...LA_480x330.jpg va.gov.

I've been there several times.....first class ...gold standard medical care.

The size of the tallest palm trees suggests that they are the original ones which we see in the early photo downthread (very slow growing!). Palm trees take to transplanting quite well, so they might well have been shifted to accommodate a new layout; but I'd bet they are the palms original to the site.

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 10, 2018 5:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8403586)
The chapel is still there, you can see it from Wilshire. I'm pretty sure the 1890 buildings were long gone before the 1960's, the current buildings show up on the 1956 aerial.

It appears that one of the buildings(besides the chapel, which is still there) in the ER's photo of the 1890 buildings at the VA is still there in the 1951 postcard.

Here's two clips from the 1951 postcard that I believe shows the same building(circled in blue):
https://i.postimg.cc/qqp1QgtY/Annota...-09-204430.jpgEbay

https://i.postimg.cc/k4TS351L/Annota...-09-204637.jpgEbay

It looks like all the 1890 buildings survived until the mid-30's, that's when changes started to take place(I think CBD's comment about earthquake damage is spot on). Here's the 1934 aerial, all of the 1890 buildings appear to be intact(I've circled the chapel in blue to assist in orientation):
https://i.postimg.cc/CKLDvDJb/Annota...-09-210124.jpgFrameFinder

Four years later in 1938, things have changed; the buildings that we see today at the VA have begun to be built and the 1890 building at the rear of ER's photo has been replaced.
https://i.postimg.cc/GpG0582h/Annota...0606-north.jpgFrameFinder

In 1947, after World War II, more of the 1890 building were razed and we are left with only the one building(in addition to the chapel and the library):

https://i.postimg.cc/brX9FrZ8/Annota...0324-north.jpgFrameFinder

Here's what it currently looks like:
https://i.postimg.cc/k4HpM7Dh/Annota...-09-214442.jpgGoogle Maps

ETA: I was focusing on the eastern side of the campus, it looks like two of the older buildings on the western side survived into the 1950's and are pictured on ER's postcard. They are not present in the current Google Map of the area.

ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2018 5:59 AM

Name the Cars
 
Since you all did so well identifying the cars in the Hotel Cecil Parking Lot


I thought you might like to try your hand at identfying the vehicles parked at Elvis' rented home on Rocca Place.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/7HrqRu.jpg
elvispresleypedia

This photo looks like it was taken by some fan hiding in the bushes.






From the looks of this next pic, Elvis needed a parking attendant more than the Hotel Cecil.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/vka5c5.jpg
elvispresleypedia

Again, fan in the bushes.





And finally.....(here's the last one)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/vMUNmo.jpg
elvispresleypedia

Isn't that a horse trailer?



some additional info:

"Feb. 3, 1966 - Elvis arrives in Los Angeles and settles into his new home at 10550 Rocca Place in Bel Air,
like the Bellagio house, is rented from Mrs. Reginald Owens."
from elvispresleypedia

Elvis also did some recording at this rental property. (mostly in 1966)

I can't tell if the current house at 10550 Rocca Place is the same house shown in the snapshots.
GSV

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CityBoyDoug Dec 10, 2018 6:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8403776)
Since you all did so well identifying the cars in the Hotel Cecil Parking Lot

Elvis also did some recording at this rental property. (mostly in 1966)

I can't tell if the current house at 10550 Rocca Place is the same house shown in the snapshots.
GSV

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The 1966 home is one story with a flat roof.

The 2018 GSV shows a 2 story house with a hipped roof. ref: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...aa/Rf-iso1.gif
Different houses....[?]

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 10, 2018 6:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8403785)
The 1966 home is one story with a flat roof.

The 2018 GSV shows a 2 story house with a hipped roof. ref: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...aa/Rf-iso1.gif
Different houses....[?]

It's LA, it just had some work done.

Noir_Noir Dec 10, 2018 10:03 AM

:previous:

"Just general alterations . . . . and what the hell, add a second story as well." (1978)


https://i.imgur.com/4QuiMQu.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org

CityBoyDoug Dec 10, 2018 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8403841)
:previous:

"Just general alterations . . . . and what the hell, add a second story as well." (1978)


https://i.imgur.com/4QuiMQu.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org

Thanks guys for the updates. I would call adding a second story, uber major alterations.
We can see by the Application that there was a conflict with the price. Betcha it cost more than the $300K.
Someone was maybe concerned with the new property tax:D:D

Bristolian Dec 10, 2018 3:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8403776)
Since you all did so well identifying the cars in the Hotel Cecil Parking Lot


I thought you might like to try your hand at identfying the vehicles parked at Elvis' rented home on Rocca Place.

From the looks of this next pic, Elvis needed a parking attendant more than the Hotel Cecil.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/vka5c5.jpg
elvispresleypedia

So many cars to identify here so I'll get it started with some in this photo. The two white convertibles in the middle, one with the top up and one with it down are 1964 Cadillacs. I'm pretty sure the black on black convertible is a 1963 Caddy. The two door second from the bottom looks to be a 1966 Buick Riviera. Correction courtesy of Gaylord Wilshire, that is a Pontiac

Earl Boebert Dec 10, 2018 3:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 8403947)
So many cars to identify here so I'll get it started with some in this photo. The two white convertibles in the middle, one with the top up and one with it down are 1964 Cadillacs. I'm pretty sure the black on black convertible is a 1963 Caddy. The two door second from the bottom looks to be a 1966 Buick Riviera.

The two station wagons are either Olds Vista Cruisers or Buick Sport Wagons (differed only in trim), probable 1964/65 models.

Cheers,

Earl


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