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RAH Dec 9, 2015 9:53 PM

Olvera Street Firestation
 
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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7253205)




Zobeleine Beer Signage, Chinatown
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...l.png~original






What a neat picture of the fire station at Olvera Street! Thanks for the post!

Current View...

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0559...2!8i6656?hl=en

CityBoyDoug Dec 9, 2015 9:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7263965)
Thank you oldstuff.

There's some more on Wiesendanger's bio here. It includes the claim that the Roosevelt was LA's first apartment building. Does anyone know if that's accurate?

The article includes this quote:

"An unfortunate series of legal battles with investors and stockholders whittled his sizable assets down to a tiny fraction of their former worth. At his death, in Los Angeles in 1919, the Los Angeles Times reported that, 'He had only one friend left to say a last farewell.'"



P.S.

Some info on Wiesendanger's Arlington Heights Tract is here (pg 12).

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-d...6%252520PM.jpg
lacountyarchives

Wiesendanger home is the gray one with the hip roof and large porch. 31 Hildalgo Ave. , Alhambra, CA [I lived about 3 blocks from this location for 13 years at 300 N., Almansor..]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps9uaosmw3.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psoi1tsvrm.jpg
GSV - West Coast Illus. Apr 1912

Wiesendanger home at the left.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psvjyrlv6u.jpg
GSV

tovangar2 Dec 9, 2015 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7264068)

Another I Magnin further west along Wilshire. In front of Saks Fifth Avenue is an attractive little building housing Nobby Knit Shops. In the background is Haggarty's, the Beverly Wilshire Hotel, a Bank of America and the Warner Beverly Hills Theater.

Saks Fifth Avenue now extends across the site occupied by Nobby Knit Shops. At some point they seem to have filled in all the windows on the side of the building.

The old I Magnin store, including an extra floor on the roof, is now also Saks Fifth Avenue.

Saks Fifth Avenue grew and grew, starting on the corner of Peck and Wilshire, in the late 30s, in a John and Donald Parkinson building (Paul Revere Williams did the interiors):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o...6%252520PM.jpg
pinterest

Massively successful, SFA expanded west down the block in 1940 and 1948. This time PRW was the architect for the exterior and the interiors:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Q...0%252520PM.jpg
paulreverewilliamsproject

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g...0%252520PM.jpg
departmentstoremuseum

Since completing the block, and expanding into the Magnin's building, I think they're done.
(Too bad they didn't mirror the Parkinson building):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v...1%252520PM.jpg
paulwilliamsproject/donhoran (2010)

I've always really liked the interiors at SFA (the exterior too) but could never find anything I wanted there.

The painted windows makes the store look more than a little blind.

The large department store I worked for covered the insides of the windows with fake Venetian blind sticky film and then dry-walled over them or used the window spaces for stockrooms, etc. (retailers don't want customers to be aware of the time). It gave a nicely uniform look (but they don't do it anymore).

Tourmaline Dec 9, 2015 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RAH (Post 7264216)
What a neat picture of the fire station at Olvera Street! Thanks for the post!

Current View...

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0559...2!8i6656?hl=en



:hi: See here for more on this structure. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=31179



http://waterandpower.org/7%20Histori...uma_Saloon.jpghttp://waterandpower.org/7%20Histori...uma_Saloon.jpg

ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2015 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7263112)
This list of T Wiesendanger's properties that I found in the 1910 CD might help to identify some of the other locations.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
LAPL

:previous: I just visited all the addresses and every single apartment building is gone. :( :(

But the list is still very interesting......now we know the names of T.W.'s apartment buildings.
Since he named 3/4th of the apartments after places, google searches are extra-frustrating.
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CityBoyDoug Dec 10, 2015 1:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7264446)
:previous: I just visited all the addresses and every single apartment building is gone. :( :(

But the list is still very interesting......now we know the names of T.W.'s apartment buildings.
Since he named 3/4th of the apartments after places, google searches are extra-frustrating.
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Now isn't that sweet...in 1912 he provided flowers and ''birds''. What more could you want. :previous:.... :previous:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pska1eqady.jpg
c/a

ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2015 1:24 AM

Here's a great ad for a meat market. (1910s?)

"Norma Market, 1818 S. Main Street, Los Angeles. M. T. Ryan Proprietor. Tel. W 71"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...905/AvDPJ3.jpg
old file / eBay

I'm surprised there isn't sawdust on the floor. Maybe they swept it up for this excellent photograph.

Any idea what's in the large glass case on the left?

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CityBoyDoug Dec 10, 2015 1:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7264523)
Early ad for a meat market. (1910s?)

"Norma Market, 1818 S. Main Street, Los Angeles. M. T. Ryan Proprietor. Tel. W 71"


:previous: I am surprised there isn't sawdust on the floor. -maybe they swept it up for the photograph.

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It appears that fresh meat refrigeration was still in the future. I wonder what that room was like on a warm So. Cal. day. :slob: :previous:

tovangar2 Dec 10, 2015 1:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7264446)
Since he named 3/4th of the apartments after places, google searches are extra-frustrating.
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Lucerne, Geneva and Helvetia are all names from Wisendanger's home country. Helvetia is the personification of Switzerland, AKA Confœderatio Helvetica, the Swiss Confederation, popular since the 17th century, here on a two franc coin:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-m...7%252520PM.jpg
wiki



P.S.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7264523)
Any idea what's in the large glass case on the left?
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Fish, on ice.


P.P.S.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7264493)
... he provided flowers and ''birds''.

Wisendanger actually claimed "aviaries" (but still no fire escapes):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3...2%252520PM.jpg
LA Herald, 3 Dec 1910

CityBoyDoug Dec 10, 2015 2:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7264523)
Here's a great ad for a meat market. (1910s?)

"Norma Market, 1818 S. Main Street, Los Angeles. M. T. Ryan Proprietor. Tel. W 71"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...905/AvDPJ3.jpg
old file / eBay

I'm surprised there isn't sawdust on the floor. Maybe they swept it up for this excellent photograph.

Any idea what's in the large glass case on the left?

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That left side object may be a large aquarium for lobsters. I think its best to keep them alive until you boil them.

John Maddox Roberts Dec 10, 2015 2:42 AM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7264068)
I can't see any connection between the images in this 1949 Julius Shulman photoset. It's vaguely labeled "Scenics", and jumps around the city. It's "Job 441: Scenics (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1949". I'll start with this view looking south-east across the UCLA campus.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

I'm sure we've seen this canyon before, but I just can't place it.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

I love this view looking at DTLA from the Arroyo Seco Parkway. The road heading towards the Hall of Justice is N Hill Street. Along the way it passes the China City pagoda. On the right is a road running around the edge of Chavez Ravine over a decade before the opening of Dodger Stadium.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

Here's the I Magnin store at Wilshire and New Hampshire which we've seen many times before. It's now the Wilshire Galleria Department Store.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

Another I Magnin further west along Wilshire. In front of Saks Fifth Avenue is an attractive little building housing Nobby Knit Shops. In the background is Haggarty's, the Beverly Wilshire Hotel, a Bank of America and the Warner Beverly Hills Theater.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

Saks Fifth Avenue now extends across the site occupied by Nobby Knit Shops. At some point they seem to have filled in all the windows on the side of the building.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original
GSV

The old I Magnin store, including an extra floor on the roof, is now also Saks Fifth Avenue.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original
GSV

In the third picture there's a car in an odd little pull-over on the left. There's nobody behind the wheel. Do you suppose this might be Schulman's own car?

ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2015 2:43 AM

Here's another Los Angeles meat market from an old file of mine.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...910/zMUmU8.jpg
probably eBay

:previous: Marble counters.


I located an address in the 1932 city directory.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...908/nhFcts.jpg
lapl

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ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2015 2:49 AM

And here's Melton's in Grand Central Market, Aug. 26, 1940.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...908/8dqUhQ.jpg
http://www.eater.com/2015/7/22/90144...od-los-angeles







below: Did anyone else notice this small area of tile floor peeking through?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...903/zE7nds.jpg
detail

I wonder if there are early photographs online showing the decorative tile floor before it was covered over.

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CityBoyDoug Dec 10, 2015 8:05 AM

ER, you got me going on the meat markets!
This one is located in the Grand Central Market....1930s. His special might be LIVER.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psuxykzlt6.jpg
WKCET

ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2015 7:53 PM

HossC's 'mystery' canyon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7264068)

:previous: This has really intrigued me. I thought it might be Benedict Canyon but I haven't found (via google-earth) anything structures along Benedict that resemble
the buildings in the photo.

I thought the campanile might belong to a school, but the pool definitely looks like a resort.

John Maddox Roberts mentioned Shulman's car in the third photograph of the group.
I had to smile, because in this photo there's a similar car parked down on what I thought might be Benedict Canyon Drive. (just above the pool)
But surely Mr. Shulman didn't trek up this hillside to take the pic.;)

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ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2015 10:15 PM

"Automobiles traveling between Silver Lake Blvd. (on the left) and Parkman Avenue (on the right)." [n. d.]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...911/NwxSL9.jpg
lapl at http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=71402




Here's the same view today.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...907/Jdmyuy.jpg
gsv


The apt. buildings on the left are and the apt. on the right are still standing. The empty lots on the left now have apt. buildings on them.
(I placed a red arrow above the left building that appears in the vintage photograph)



Here's a better look at that apt. building.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/5RtSOj.jpg
detail






Here's the apt. today.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/nqBqRy.jpg
gsv





Here's my question. What is the very tall blade sign in the distance?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...903/WF6N7j.jpg
detail

:previous: It looks like you can see through it.
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ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2015 10:45 PM

Boyle Heights float, 1900s

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...903/Qwgzoi.jpg
eBay



the hidden word in the Allcock's ad on the building at right is 'Plasters' (see below)



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...910/hIXgRZ.jpg
https://www.pinterest.com/explore/vi...rtising-signs/
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jg6544 Dec 10, 2015 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7264287)
Saks Fifth Avenue grew and grew, starting on the corner of Peck and Wilshire, in the late 30s, in a John and Donald Parkinson building (Paul Revere Williams did the interiors):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o...6%252520PM.jpg
pinterest

Massively successful, SFA expanded west down the block in 1940 and 1948. This time PRW was the architect for the exterior and the interiors:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Q...0%252520PM.jpg
paulreverewilliamsproject

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g...0%252520PM.jpg
departmentstoremuseum

Since completing the block, and expanding into the Magnin's building, I think they're done.
(Too bad they didn't mirror the Parkinson building):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v...1%252520PM.jpg
paulwilliamsproject/donhoran (2010)

I've always really liked the interiors at SFA (the exterior too) but could never find anything I wanted there.

The painted windows makes the store look more than a little blind.

The large department store I worked for covered the insides of the windows with fake Venetian blind sticky film and then dry-walled over them or used the window spaces for stockrooms, etc. (retailers don't want customers to be aware of the time). It gave a nicely uniform look (but they don't do it anymore).

The original Paul Williams interiors were stunning. At least part of the main floor of the store was carpeted.

CityBoyDoug Dec 10, 2015 11:13 PM

This customized '36 Ford that served as the tow rig for the Southern California Plating Company's race car to the old Ascot track. That's also an early DuVall windshield. A classier looking hauler would be hard to find.

Built in 1937 for Tommy Lee, son of famous L.A. Cadillac dealer Don Lee, this car used a specially built Offenhauser 318 engine that was ill suited for the street.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps87hchb9y.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pszd0pydll.jpg
Diecast forum

ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2015 11:18 PM

:previous: What a sleek looking car! Beautiful.
I love the shape of that side window.

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