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Ninja55 Sep 5, 2014 2:10 AM

[IMG]https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2895/...be84542b7c.jpgSCAN4312 by ZX14r, on Flickr[/IMG]

bought this on ebay for 5 bucks. Totally stoked. I'll share a few pages and thanks Mr. Ryerson.......you da bomb!!

Ninja55 Sep 5, 2014 2:10 AM

[IMG]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5478/...5ef5c0b44a.jpgSCAN4326_2 by ZX14r, on Flickr[/IMG]

Ninja55 Sep 5, 2014 2:11 AM

[IMG]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5271/...84b3d9a338.jpgSCAN4326 by ZX14r, on Flickr[/IMG]

Ninja55 Sep 5, 2014 2:12 AM

[IMG]https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2910/...900e0a6df8.jpgSCAN4313 by ZX14r, on Flickr[/IMG]

Ninja55 Sep 5, 2014 2:13 AM

[IMG]https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2934/...b56cd8270f.jpgSCAN4315 by ZX14r, on Flickr[/IMG]

Ninja55 Sep 5, 2014 2:14 AM

[IMG]https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2898/...04a567d855.jpgSCAN4315_2 by ZX14r, on Flickr[/IMG]

Ninja55 Sep 5, 2014 2:15 AM

[IMG]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5573/...65412965a6.jpgSCAN4317_2 by ZX14r, on Flickr[/IMG]

Ninja55 Sep 5, 2014 2:17 AM

[IMG]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5312/...4321c2c361.jpgSCAN4320_2 by ZX14r, on Flickr[/IMG]

Ninja55 Sep 5, 2014 2:18 AM

[IMG]https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2933/...097b2c44b0.jpgSCAN4317 by ZX14r, on Flickr[/IMG]

Ninja55 Sep 5, 2014 2:20 AM

[IMG]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5588/...4859689099.jpgSCAN4323 by ZX14r, on Flickr[/IMG]

Ninja55 Sep 5, 2014 2:20 AM

[IMG]https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2924/...b6a27934a5.jpgSCAN4323_2 by ZX14r, on Flickr[/IMG]

Ninja55 Sep 5, 2014 2:21 AM

[IMG]https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2897/...ea40762f05.jpgSCAN4324 by ZX14r, on Flickr[/IMG]

Ninja55 Sep 5, 2014 2:23 AM

[IMG]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5215/...fa353960_b.jpgSCAN0338 by ZX14r, on Flickr[/IMG]

AND IN CASE YOU FORGOT WHO BERT ROVERE IS.

Retired_in_Texas Sep 5, 2014 2:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6717322)
anyone recognize this fire-damaged Victorian?

-no address (undated)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/yJ9KaE.jpg
old file of mine/possibly ebay

I can barely make out the numbers on the ROOMS sign...is it 1337?

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I believe it is 1337. The date would be 1940-41 based upon the Ford car parked immediately in front of the house. The back end of the dark car at the far left appears to be a 1939 GM product, not sure which brand.

The bigger question might be: Is that family standing on the porch actually living in that place?

FredH Sep 5, 2014 5:19 AM

OK, so I consulted with the wife on this photo.

Her observations:

1) It's a wedding photo. If they weren't married they would NOT be holding hands.

2) No one smiled in wedding photos. It was more of a solemn occasion back then. Besides, chances
are they hardly knew each other (or never met before) and were concerned about what kind of a nut
case they just got hooked up with.

3) It appears that the woman had bound feet. If so, her family was rich. With bound feet, you were
useless for doing any sort of manual labor.


http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...psd876666c.jpg
ebay

FredH Sep 5, 2014 7:31 AM

Michael Ryerson posted this photo recently, but I didn't really understand what I was looking at until I ran across his flickr page. I have been
interested in the Hildreth Mansion, that sat on the corner of the 4th Street stub which seems to elude both maps and photos.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...psbb1381fa.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/michael...n/14844552266/


Michael Ryerson:

"Looking west from Grand Avenue along 4th Street, 1954
The camera, facing west, appears to be situated on the property on the NW corner of Grand and 4th Street. The Brunson/4th&Grand service
garage would have been to the immediate right of the camera. As you've noted, we're looking across the southern end of Bunker Hill Avenue
and immediately beyond that the shattered foundations of the now-missing Crestholme, the Kiernan and the Gibson over on the NE corner of
Hope Street. That distinctive dark retaining wall is all that's left of the Hildreth (Hopecrest, indeed). Over here on the left, between the Barbara
Worth and the camera, the upper floors of the LaBelle and the Bronx have been removed and out-of-frame to left the status of the Gordon
and the Zelda is unknown."

Huntington Digital Library/Palmer Conner Collection of Color Slides of Los Angeles, 1950 - 1970


A closer view of the Hildreth retaining wall (the one in the back) is here:

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps77e1b062.jpg
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...d/8663/rec/658

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...psbd5cc060.jpg
LAPL

Interesting, but you still don't have a view down that damn stub.

gsjansen Sep 5, 2014 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6717355)
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3835/...87bb754e_o.jpg4th Street cut from west side of the freeway, January 16, 1955

What street do you think this building is on? Would you agree the Stuart K. Oliver house is roughly parallel to this building, hence likely on the same street? The Zelda was on Grand Avenue. What street do you think we're looking at here? If you want to fish around in my photo-stream, search 'Zelda' you'll find maybe twenty images of the Zelda or of the vacant lot after the 4th Street cut wiped it clean. Just sayin'

Yup, after looking around and comparing photographs, I have to agree with you Michael, the white building is indeed the Briggs. :)

Having been away from this forum for so long, and not actively focusing on old Los Angeles on a daily, (if not hourly) basis like I once did, I have lost some of my one time intimate knowledge of the bunker hill area.

In the course of searching for images of the Zelda, I stumbled upon your flickr page. A very excellent collection of great photographs! :multibow:

MichaelRyerson Sep 5, 2014 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja55 (Post 6717597)
bought this on ebay for 5 bucks. Totally stoked. I'll share a few pages and thanks Mr. Ryerson.......you da bomb!!

Congratulations Ninj, nice to have you back. And back with a bang! what an entrance! Bert Rovere! Ha! just like the old days! Thanks.

MichaelRyerson Sep 5, 2014 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 6717922)
Yup, after looking around and comparing photographs, I have to agree with you Michael, the white building is indeed the Briggs. :)

Having been away from this forum for so long, and not actively focusing on old Los Angeles on a daily, (if not hourly) basis like I once did, I have lost some of my one time intimate knowledge of the bunker hill area.

In the course of searching for images of the Zelda, I stumbled upon your flickr page. A very excellent collection of great photographs! :multibow:

I can't tell you how many times I've done exactly the same thing. Really, really glad to have you and Ninja55 back in the neighborhood.

MichaelRyerson Sep 5, 2014 11:03 AM

This one's for you, FredH
 
We share a particular interest in the 4th Street stub. Well, here it is (sort of). I think I've posted this before.


https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7348/...b8b07f37_o.jpgLooking west on 4th Street from 4th Street barricade at Hope Street, 1937

Looking west down 4th Street from the 4th Street stub at Hope Street. The steep slope between Hope and Flower prevented 4th Street from going through. We are looking across Flower Street (out-of-frame at the bottom) to Figueroa (with the truck in the intersection) and to Fremont with the white Hotel Percivel at 1017 W. 4th Street. Down here, the little 'street' that runs to the right from 4th is the ever elusive Sack Alley which only runs from 4th Street to 3rd Street. The five story building which backs up to Sack Alley is the Imperial Apartments at 350 S. Figueroa. Frustratingly close to my most hoped for image. If the camera were to simply pan right 90 degrees, we would be looking directly at the Hlidreth carriage house at 715 W. 4th Street, the studio of Margrethe Mather. And in 1937, she might very well have been there on the day this shot was taken. It pleases me deeply to think she enjoyed this exact view, occasionally must have stood right here and looked down on Sack Alley. Similarly, if we were to look the other way, 90 degrees to the left, we would be looking at the Castle Tower Apartments, the repurposed Hershey Mansion.

USC digital archive/Automobile Club of Southern California collection, 1892-1963


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