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ethereal_reality Jun 29, 2014 12:10 AM

:previous: Thanks so much for sharing your photo with us DTLAdenizen. (Hunter K)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 6633994)
I never knew about the Kiddieland in Silver Lake, we always used Kiddieland to mean the little amusement park that used to be about where Beverly Center is today. It wasn't until considerably after I'd outgrown it that I realized it was officially known (or had been known)
as Beverly Park.



Here is a group of photograph of Beverly Park from the late 1960s.

-note the Beverly Park signs.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/822/ehgb.jpgebay




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102.../834/0zw2e.jpgebay



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102.../842/c1wih.jpgebay



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102.../843/12wvq.jpg
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below: Is that huge building in the distance the train shed at West Hollywood Yards?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102.../842/03o69.jpgebay


One last pic. (it must have been cold)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/820/xi59.jpg
ebay

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ProphetM Jun 29, 2014 12:24 AM

Just a note - I updated my post about 20 minutes ago with an additional photo of the Times Building with State Building under construction, so if you saw it before then you might want to back up and reload.

ethereal_reality Jun 29, 2014 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 6635745)
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-x...s_angeles2.jpg
LA Daily Mirror

The State Building is under construction while the Times Building sits on the corner, with other smaller buildings next to it filling out the rest of the block along 1st Street. The Times Building is clearly shaped just like that basement in the modern photo, including that extra chunk protruding in the back corner.

:previous: OMG ProphetM. This is quite a discovery!!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/834/bi6fg.jpg

They're exposing the foundation of one of Los Angeles' most iconic buildings. Do they even know it?

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ethereal_reality Jun 29, 2014 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6635695)

http://wilshireboulevardhouses.blogs...e-see-our.html

Excellent job (as always) in fleshing out the history of 3173 Wilshire Boulevard GW. I thought it was monkey glands.


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ProphetM Jun 29, 2014 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLAdenizen (Post 6635757)
Whoa! Great detective work, it seems like it could be.

Glad my images could be of help guys, feel free to use them on this thread (with credit) anytime:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/

I submitted the info to the LA Times with a link to your Flickr, in case they might actually want to check it out.

Incidentally, I hope I'm not the only one who thinks the new LA Times site design is absolute garbage. It's irritating in the extreme, with dead space on the sides, stuff popping out at inopportune times just because you put your mouse cursor in the wrong spot, and a never-ending scroll that adds to the bottom and subtracts from the top so you never get to the bottom of a page, among other problems. It took me several minutes just to figure out how to contact them to tell them something. :hell:

MichaelRyerson Jun 29, 2014 1:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 6635800)
I submitted the info to the LA Times with a link to your Flickr, in case they might actually want to check it out.

Incidentally, I hope I'm not the only one who thinks the new LA Times site design is absolute garbage. It's irritating in the extreme, with dead space on the sides, stuff popping out at inopportune times just because you put your mouse cursor in the wrong spot, and a never-ending scroll that adds to the bottom and subtracts from the top so you never get to the bottom of a page, among other problems. It took me several minutes just to figure out how to contact them to tell them something. :hell:

Someone should ask Larry Harnisch if he'd like to get involved. He still works for the Times and this would make a nice blog entry for him. By the way, great find. great. Heck man, Harry Chandler's steamer trunk could be in there.

esotouric Jun 29, 2014 1:28 AM

Current photo, just tweeted courtesy of the Times' historic Tumblr blogger Matt Ballinger. Looks like some bites have been taken out since Hunter took his aerial photo on Thursday.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrQoPe1CIAASYp_.jpg

Lwize Jun 29, 2014 3:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 6635800)
Incidentally, I hope I'm not the only one who thinks the new LA Times site design is absolute garbage. It's irritating in the extreme, with dead space on the sides, stuff popping out at inopportune times just because you put your mouse cursor in the wrong spot, and a never-ending scroll that adds to the bottom and subtracts from the top so you never get to the bottom of a page, among other problems. It took me several minutes just to figure out how to contact them to tell them something. :hell:

It's the beginning of the end of traditional websites, as the LA Times site has now been optimized for touch screen tablet browsing. The mouse has been replaced by fingers.

ProphetM Jun 29, 2014 3:45 AM

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Originally Posted by esotouric (Post 6635814)
Current photo, just tweeted courtesy of the Times' historic Tumblr blogger Matt Ballinger. Looks like some bites have been taken out since Hunter took his aerial photo on Thursday.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrQoPe1CIAASYp_.jpg

Ouch, looks like a good quarter of it is already gone. :( If any of you are near, go over there tomorrow and get pics before it's too late!

andilinks Jun 29, 2014 6:43 AM

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FredH Jun 29, 2014 6:45 AM

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;6635547]Hill Street north from Jefferson, 1925



east side of street

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/841/ihls8.jpg



Any idea what this Love Nest sign is all about?

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...psbe30cdef.jpg

Flyingwedge Jun 29, 2014 9:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6635692)
There's been progress at the former California State Building site.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/834/bi6fg.jpg

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 6635745)
That's a strange angle on the remaining structure, more akin to the alignment of the old hall of records and the funky-angled streets that once ran nearby, than the State Building. That corner of the State Building property was mostly lawn. Could this be the remains of an earlier building?

I've been Googling for a good picture and this is what I came up with:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/...de7a363c_o.jpg

From a gsjansen post WAY back in the thread.

Looks like the third Times Building was on that corner spot, from 1912 to 1938.

So, what do you think? Is that the basement of the 1912 Times building in the new photo? I'm thinking that it is. I guess they just tore it down to ground level in 1938 and left the rest!

Edit: One more photo:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-x...s_angeles2.jpg
LA Daily Mirror

The State Building is under construction while the Times Building sits on the corner, with other smaller buildings next to it filling out the rest of the block along 1st Street. The Times Building is clearly shaped just like that basement in the modern photo, including that extra chunk protruding in the back corner.

Does the color photo in er's post show the remains of this?:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...3.jpg~original
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...7.jpg~original
Los Angeles Times, October 16, 1938

GaylordWilshire Jun 29, 2014 11:37 AM

:previous:


Hmmm...I wonder if I didn't jump the gun on the Times basement idea, now that I see the two floors in esotouric's shot. But why would the north wall of the new underground garage have been angled?

Quote:

Originally Posted by esotouric (Post 6635814)
Current photo, just tweeted courtesy of the Times' historic Tumblr blogger Matt Ballinger. Looks like some bites have been taken out since Hunter took his aerial photo on Thursday.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-D...sorgarcirc.jpg


ethereal_reality Jun 29, 2014 2:26 PM

That's a good question. Was it angled because they were building on a previous foundation that was angled?
(i.e. the Times bldg.) -wishful thinking I know.

..but I'm also puzzled by the ramps in the illustration flyingwedge posted. So the only entrance to the underground garage
was on the far side of the State Building? There were no other entrances or exits? -is that correct?


FredH, I never noticed that 'Love Nest' sign. -perhaps it's a movie advertisement. -good eye.

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Earl Boebert Jun 29, 2014 2:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6636075)


FredH, I never noticed that 'Love Nest' sign. -perhaps it's a movie advertisement. -good eye.

Possibly this Buster Keaton short from 1923:

http://www.tcm.com/this-month/articl...=The-Love-Nest

Would KO be Keith Orpheum before the Radio was added?

Cheers,

Earl

MartinTurnbull Jun 29, 2014 3:01 PM

Garden of Allah Novels companion map of Los Angeles and Hollywood
 
I thought people who regularly hang out here might like to see this map I’ve been working on with a friend, Dave DeCaro from Davelandweb.com
I write a series of novels set in and around the Garden of Allah Hotel which stood on Sunset Blvd from 1927 to 1959 during Hollywood’s heyday. For a while I’ve wanted to put together a map of LA/Hollywood showing where the major points of interest were, and where my characters (both fictional and real) frequented. But the design and software skills necessary to put something like that together were far beyond my pay grade. I was mentioning my I-have-a-map-dream to Dave—he has a terrific map of Disneyland which I've long admired ( http://davelandweb.com/disneyland/ ) and he suggested we work on one together. This is the result. You can find a list with the places, addresses and dates on my website: http://bit.ly/1iQhiMv

http://www.martinturnbull.com/wp-con...NAL-small1.jpg

HossC Jun 29, 2014 4:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 6636020)

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...7.jpg~original
Los Angeles Times, October 16, 1938

While looking for pictures of the State Building's Broadway entrance ramp shown in Flyingwedge's LAT diagram, I came across this picture from 1939.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...9.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

A close-up shows a sign for J. S. Metzger & Son, the contractors named in the LAT article.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...9.jpg~original
Detail of picture above.

There must've been dozens of proposed schemes for the Civic Center over the years, and I'm sure we've seen most of them here. This one from 1950 (previously posted by westcork in post #3062) shows a virtual twin for the State Building. The full description is:

Photograph of a drawing with the caption "Sketch showing unification of Superior and Municipal Courts as proposed by Supervisor Leonard Roach". "Civil Center pattern -- Supervisor Leonard Roach will submit plans for a 20-story building (A) to house Superior and Municipal Courts and a Law Library. Also included in his plans, the Hall of Records would be razed and replaced with a $5,000,000 county administration building (B). Existing buildings are Hall of Justice (1), Federal Building (2), City Hall (3), and State Building (4). Building A would cost $14,650,000 instead of 17,453,809 for three separate buildings" -- clipping dated "Apr. 27, 1950" attached to verso.; Streetscape. Horizontal photography.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...l.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

gsjansen Jun 29, 2014 6:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6624881)
A souvenir lighter, from an earlier era when the whole world seemed to smoke.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800.../841/5e1sr.jpg
ebay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/840/3mr1.jpg

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it ain't noir without the smoke baby.............;)

gsjansen Jun 29, 2014 6:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6636137)

There must've been dozens of proposed schemes for the Civic Center over the years, and I'm sure we've seen most of them here. This one from 1950 (previously posted by westcork in post #3062) shows a virtual twin for the State Building. The full description is:

Photograph of a drawing with the caption "Sketch showing unification of Superior and Municipal Courts as proposed by Supervisor Leonard Roach". "Civil Center pattern -- Supervisor Leonard Roach will submit plans for a 20-story building (A) to house Superior and Municipal Courts and a Law Library. Also included in his plans, the Hall of Records would be razed and replaced with a $5,000,000 county administration building (B). Existing buildings are Hall of Justice (1), Federal Building (2), City Hall (3), and State Building (4). Building A would cost $14,650,000 instead of 17,453,809 for three separate buildings" -- clipping dated "Apr. 27, 1950" attached to verso.; Streetscape. Horizontal photography.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...l.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

apparently this master plan for the unification of civic center included a bass pro shops outdoor world on the West side of the Superior and Municipal Courts and Law Library building due to the presence of what appears to be a circular fishin' hole complete with marina and boat launch ramp........:P

ethereal_reality Jun 29, 2014 7:02 PM

:previous: Great to see you again gsjansen. We MISSED you!
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At first glance, I thought this oil well was in Silverlake next to the Shakespeare Bridge.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/820/rfvd.jpg
ebay



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/853/g2iry.jpg
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