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Chuckaluck Feb 25, 2014 9:31 PM

"The Holly Food Mart, [later] .. . became home to Peterson Publishing (Motor Trend, Hot Rod etc.) in the 1950s. A marquee was added when it became the "X Theater." Per '69 Directory, Peterson Publishing was at 5916 Hollywood Blvd.




1937 - 5959 Hollywood Blvd

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9417
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00097/00097164.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00097/00097164.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00102/00102252.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00102/00102252.jpg


http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics44/00071504.jpghttp://jpg3.lapl.org/pics44/00071504.jpg



http://jpg1.lapl.org/00102/00102253.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00102/00102253.jpg

http://photos.cinematreasures.org/pr...jpg?1339363306http://photos.cinematreasures.org/pr...jpg?1339363306

http://photos.cinematreasures.org/pr...jpg?1307717657http://photos.cinematreasures.org/pr...jpg?1307717657






http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13...0326932a_j.jpghttp://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13...0326932a_j.jpg



August 21, 1954. Burbank Prowlers car club. Members may have subscribed to various Peterson publications.;)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00082/00082870.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00082/00082870.jpg

fhammon Feb 25, 2014 9:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6466407)
Does anyone remember when this warplane was parked in Griffith Park?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/829/5tga.jpgebay
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/36/qk4h.jpg

There's one in the Proud Bird restaurant's collected over near LAX.
Can't say if it's the same one. I guess it's not. Too much is different about it. If you haven't been there before check out their collection and have an expensive but marginally good coffee-shop type lunch.
It looks like they got a temporary reprieve and will stay open for another year or two.

http://www.theproudbird.com/proudbir...viewslide4.jpghttp://www.theproudbird.com/proudbird/aboutus.aspx

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/dec...-stay-20131212

Chuckaluck Feb 25, 2014 9:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6467298)
MichaelRyerson, you beat me to it! Here are a few more pictures of the Edison's Lower Fifth entrance.

Beaudry discussed the retaining wall and surviving entrance a few weeks ago in post #19332.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3683/1...8be53db5_o.gif
Beaudry/GSV

A close-up from another Huntington Digital Library picture shows the pedestrian entrance alongside the plainer exit for autos.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Detail of picture at Huntington Digital Library

Flyingwedge posted the same interior shot of the Lower Fifth Street entrance in post #19359. Here's the view looking toward the doors.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
Huntington Digital Library

This picture shows the entrances/exits during the late stages of construction.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original
Detail of picture at Huntington Digital Library

And this picture, taken at around the same time, gives a better view of the steps up to Hope Street.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original
Detail of picture at Huntington Digital Library

I'll finish with a night picture from 1931. The pedestrian entrance is just out of shot to the left, but the auto entrance/exit is clearly illuminated.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original
Huntington Digital Library


:cool:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=16979


http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...GXAMA1F5FL.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...GXAMA1F5FL.jpg

GaylordWilshire Feb 25, 2014 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 6465341)
Those with 6volt thinking systems may earn a windshield decal.

1947
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics50/00044607.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/pics50/00044607.jpg

Wear it with pride! (Officer inspects traffic-stopping mohair?)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics43/00041057.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/pics43/00041057.jpg


Quote:

Originally Posted by Retired_in_Texas (Post 6467460)
I have a suspicion that the early hot rodders probably viewed that sticker as exhibiting pride in accomplishment.

A bit puzzling are the 1947 plates on the car when it is clearly powered by a Ford flat head V8 engine variation that did not appear until 1949. Could it be that out of date plates was the issue?

Well, RiT, my first thought was that we mustn't assume that this picture actually dates from 1947--for '48-'50 California used year tabs on '47 plate. Perhaps, I thought, this might explain the front-mounted water outlets... But then I see that the LAPL caption gives the date precisely as July 23, 1947... so it seems that this is indeed 1947:


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i...latorcompl.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-K...2520PM.bmp.jpg
LAT July 24, 1947


So.. perhaps these heads are aftermarket... the intake manifold certainly does not appear to be stock Ford... the generator seems higher than it usually is... maybe this isn't a Ford flathead at all...I mean, those water pumps are pretty high....

GaylordWilshire Feb 25, 2014 10:32 PM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z...2520PM.bmp.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D...s512/ford2.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--...2520PM.bmp.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-L...2520PM.bmp.jpg
LAT May 6, 1948/Hemmings (seen before, smaller)


I always wondered exactly when the Los Angeles Lincoln-Mercury plant opened...

MichaelRyerson Feb 25, 2014 10:33 PM

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7309/1...3328b3b8_o.jpg
Sodium Vapor streetlighting, Saugus

Inbound on the Ridge Route, 1937

Southern California Edison Photographs and Negatives, Huntington Digital Library

HossC Feb 25, 2014 10:40 PM

MacMarr Stores at 3303 West 54th Street, seen here at the grand opening on June 29, 1929.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...arrStores1.jpg
USC Digital Library

A better shot of the interior.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...arrStores2.jpg
USC Digital Library

Apart from a change of roof tiles and a less flattering paint job, it's still fairly much intact.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...arrStores3.jpg
GSV

Flyingwedge Feb 25, 2014 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Swink (Post 6008657)
Thanks for all the welcomes to the forum by the way. The pyramid planetarium in a recent post made me think of a couple of Egyptian Revival apartment buildings I came across in Hollywood one day on a side street.

When I first stumbled across this building at 5616 Lexington Ave. several years ago it had not been painted and it was so dirty it looked like it was an eroded temple in Karnak Egypt.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w.../lexington.png

from: Google Street View

There is a very similar building just one block to the north on La Mirada Ave. as well. I assume they were built around the same time by the same contractor. I know after the discovery of King Tut’s tomb in 1922 Egyptian Revival made another comeback in architecture. This building looks to be early 1920’s and I like to assume the discovery of Tut’s tomb influenced it’s design.

Mr.Swink, I believe this is the building to which you referred on La Mirada, 5617:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...a.jpg~original
GSV

747 N. Wilcox is another building with egyptian-themed design elements:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...b.jpg~original
GSV

Vintage undated closeup of 747 N. Wilcox:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...3.jpg~original
LAPL -- http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics42/00070638.jpg

ethereal_reality Feb 25, 2014 11:02 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/833/0wpi.jpgebay




detail
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/849/d0nz.jpg



I found E. J. Jaquith in the 1898 city directory. (I didn't go through all of them)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/199/qkha.jpg
LAPL

...but the street number in the photograph is 360. -so either the photograph is earlier or later than the 1898 location on State.
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Excellent post Flyingwedge on the Sale family and the Hope street area highlighting the Highland Villa.
It was very interesting!

Thanks Jack (Wig-Wag) for researching the Griffith Park airplanes.
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fhammon Feb 25, 2014 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6468107)

detail
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/849/d0nz.jpg



I found E. J. Jaquith in the 1898 city directory. (I didn't go through all of them)


...but the street number in the photograph is 360. -so either the photograph is earlier or later than the 1898 location on State.
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Excellent post Flyingwedge on the Sale family and the Hope street area highlighting the Highland Villa.
It was very interesting!

Thanks Jack (Wig-Wag) for researching the Griffith Park airplanes.
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Quote:

E. J. Jaquith, a veteran in all branches of carriage and wagon works, made his establishment in Los Angeles a little over one year ago. Mr. Jaquith is entitled to the name of veteran, because he has been working at the business for 45 years. He maintains a well, equipped shop at 360 South Almeda street, where he does all the branches of building, repairing , and painting carriages, and wagons. He also does expert horse shoeing, and this he does in professional style at minimum prices, ranging from $1.25 and up. His specialty Is that of repair work, and making to order and his manufacture includes the building of a vehicle out and out.
http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d...03.2.148.3.130

ethereal_reality Feb 26, 2014 12:15 AM

Great information on E.J. Jaquith fhammon. -much appreciated
Now I know the shop in my photograph was on South Alameda. cool.
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ethereal_reality Feb 26, 2014 12:55 AM

This post is inspired by...
Martin Pal's recent Crossroads of the World excursion.



I found this on ebay
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/138/zl0q.jpg

...and this.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/543/n2y3.jpgebay
note the 'Barber of Seville'.




Here's an old map...showing three additional areas of proposed shops. (NORTH is on the right)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/208/lb76.jpgOFOM

Does anyone know if these proposed shops were built? (I find it odd that the front and back of the complex was built first)
-leaving the middle empty.





below: I always forget about that area back towards Selma Avenue. (I've outlined it in red)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/163/ypit.jpggoogle_earth

The map I posted earlier labels this Selma Avenue area the Continental Villa.


views from Selma
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/545/viql.jpgGSV


quaint lighthouse building with sloping roof.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/849/miho.jpgGSV


Selma Avenue is where this cool sign is located. Martin Pal had a couple images of it.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/844/9uud.jpgGSV



...but MP didn't include this noirish image from 1937. :)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/196/mhdv.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5091283
LAPL



snapshot of a tourist posing by the lighthouse on Selma.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/33/a8ia.jpgebay




I'm not sure where exactly this building is located in the Crossroads complex, but it's pretty impressive.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/577/2gwv.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/VintageLosAngeles

Thanks Martin for bringing Crossroads of the World to NLA
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Flyingwedge Feb 26, 2014 2:23 AM

Washington and Main
 
In 1923 a campaign was begun to widen Washington Boulevard:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...8.jpg~original
June 24, 1923 Los Angeles Times

Looking east on Washington at Main, 1926. Note the building on the NE corner:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original
LAPL -- http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics37/00068456.jpg

Looking east on Washington at Main, 1930. The building on the NE corner had a chunk taken out of its southern end and the wall moved in. In addition, the building on the NW corner
is being renovated, but where did that apparently masonry wall come from that isn't in the 1926 photo above? That wall has me confused:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...9.jpg~original
USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/3969/rec/63

A closer look:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...7.jpg~original

Still there:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...6.jpg~original
GSV

Mr. Kress, the structural moving engineer, handled much bigger jobs than what he did to the south end of the building on the NE corner of Washington and Main:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=518
http://archive.larchmontchronicle.co...?ArchiveID=722
http://old.post-gazette.com/homes/20...ed0818fnp3.asp

We've probably seen this 1930s photo looking west on Washington at the Mode O' Day building before, but the building at right is the same one on the NW corner of Washington and Main
seen in the two older photos above:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...c.jpg~original
USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si.../id/3974/rec/2

Here's HossC's post on that building: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=18688

Retired_in_Texas Feb 26, 2014 4:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6468026)
Well, RiT, my first thought was that we mustn't assume that this picture actually dates from 1947--for '48-'50 California used year tabs on '47 plate. Perhaps, I thought, this might explain the front-mounted water outlets... But then I see that the LAPL caption gives the date precisely as July 23, 1947... so it seems that this is indeed 1947:


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i...latorcompl.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-K...2520PM.bmp.jpg
LAT July 24, 1947


So.. perhaps these heads are aftermarket... the intake manifold certainly does not appear to be stock Ford... the generator seems higher than it usually is... maybe this isn't a Ford flathead at all...I mean, those water pumps are pretty high....

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics50/00044607.jpg


Good thinking! It is not a Ford flathead. It is a Cadillac and I'm thinking with that side-by-side dual carb setup it may be a variation of the ones used in WWII M-5 Tanks. This one looks similar but with the tubes which are actually exhaust pipes coming right out of runners (not the radiator hoses). For whatever reason it appears the engine were mounted backwards in a tank. Likely because of the dual Hydra-Matic transmissions that connected to the track via a transfer case. The one in the hot rod appears it might be mounted backwards to what a Cadillac car engine would have been.


http://www.cadillacdatabase.org/ww1&2/Ww2_engn.jpghttp://www.cadillacdatabase.org

Here's a 1938 Caddy V16 with the same carb setup

http://c.barat.free.fr/cadillac/secondv16.jpg

http://c.barat.free.fr/cadillac/cadillac.html

Seventh & Spring Feb 26, 2014 9:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6460747)
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8428

This is one photo from a great series of photos posted by kznyc2k in the above link detailing Pershing Square through the 30's & 40's. It is Carole Landis doing her part for the War Bond drive. My question is, does anyone know what those numerous things are stacked on the shelves on either side of her legs? They look like lunch boxes. Perhaps they were (war bond lunches?), but I am curious if anyone has the scoop?

I believe these are glass blocks. In this case, they appear to be glass block "banks", possibly given out for people to collect donations for the war effort. The chevron design on the labels (which I first thought might be a company logo) may be there to indicate "this side down", or the direction to insert the coins/cash. Similar glass block was used as a facade for the outside of the counter she is posing on. It's visible in other photos of the event.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps73160bfe.jpg
lower left: icircular.wordpress.com / lower right: ebay

Flyingwedge Feb 26, 2014 9:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6466219)
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-q...omplbigpic.jpg
LAT, Dec 7, 1913

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E...startcompl.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Z...2520PM.bmp.jpghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-k...2520PM.bmp.jpg
LAT, Dec 7, 1913/Apr 26, 1924x2


I've looked in vain for photographs of Methodist Hospital at 2826 S Hope Street... anyone? After Methodist moved to Arcadia in the 50s, the building lasted until the mid-to-late-70s as part of the L.A. County health system. A post-70s building is on the site today, one with a similar setback. Needless to say, the "Grounds Like [a] Beautiful Natural Park" are given over to parking. The four-story nurses' dorm across Hope is also gone for a parking lot. In an aerial Googling, there seems to be no sign of the tunnel mentioned in the second article ...ok, ok, I know it's a tunnel, but I thought, was hoping, to find some vents or doors or some other tell-tale sign. Btw, Mayor Henry T. Hazard's house on the lot served as the first home of Methodist Hospital.

Would you settle for a small, undated postcard?
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...6.jpg~original
ebay

More info from the May 9, 1914, Southwest Contractor and Manufacturer:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...6.jpg~original
HathiTrust Digital Library -- http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?i...iew=1up;seq=24

HossC Feb 26, 2014 11:47 AM

:previous:

Well done for finding a picture of the Methodist Hospital, Flyingwedge. Here it is on the 1921 Baist map.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...spital1921.jpg
www.historicmapworks.com

I couldn't find any more ground level pictures, but here's a series of aerials showing how the site changed. The first is from 1948.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...spital1948.jpg
Historic Aerials

By 1972, the freeway has come pretty close, and all the small residential buildings have gone.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...spital1972.jpg
Historic Aerials

By 1980, the hospital has gone the same way as the houses.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...spital1980.jpg
Historic Aerials

Twenty four years later, and a few of the smaller buildings have changed. The freeway bridge aligned with 29th Street has also gone to make way for new elevated sections of roadway.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...spital2004.jpg
Historic Aerials

Here's how the site looks on Google Maps. The elevated freeway section still dead-ends in mid air.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...spital2014.jpg
Google Maps

GaylordWilshire Feb 26, 2014 1:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 6468503)
In 1923 a campaign was begun to widen Washington Boulevard...

Looking east on Washington at Main, 1926. Note the building on the NE corner:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original
LAPL -- http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics37/00068456.jpg

Looking east on Washington at Main, 1930. The building on the NE corner had a chunk taken out of its southern end and the wall moved in. In addition, the building on the NW corner
is being renovated, but where did that apparently masonry wall come from that isn't in the 1926 photo above? That wall has me confused:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...9.jpg~original
USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/3969/rec/63

A closer look:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...7.jpg~original


I am fascinated by the technique of slicing and dicing and moving back an entire outer wall of a building, details and all. As for the masonry wall--I think the camera angles are causing the confusion--while it may appear that the façade of the NW building is in line with the pushed-back front of the Merchants National/BoA building... in fact the wall you are seeing is the stripped remnant of the original first floor of the NW building. (The apparently round detail circled in red below seems to match the series of round decorations on the original first-floor frieze.) It looks like the NW building was given the same slice-and-dice/pushback treatment as the bank building, with a new first-floor storefronts constructed:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q...maindetail.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-z...ntextcompl.jpg
USCDL/LAT Oct 12, 1930


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics48/00058574.jpgLAPL

Here's a detail of the bank when it was a Merchants National branch...the LAPL dates this picture as April 1925.



Also, FW, great find of the Methodist Hospital card--

And RiT...a further indicator of the Traffic Violator's raiding of a Cadillac engine compartment might be the GM-style long-and-thin 6V battery....

CityBoyDoug Feb 26, 2014 4:50 PM

Let's rearrange the outer walls....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6469087)
I am fascinated by the technique of slicing and dicing and moving back an entire outer wall of a building, details and all. As for the masonry wall--I think the camera angles are causing the confusion--while it may appear that the façade of the NW building is in line with the pushed-back front of the Merchants National/BoA building... in fact the wall you are seeing is the stripped remnant of the original first floor of the NW building. (The apparently round detail circled in red below seems to match the series of round decorations on the original first-floor frieze.) It looks like the NW building was given the same slice-and-dice/pushback treatment as the bank building, with a new first-floor storefronts constructed:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q...maindetail.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-z...ntextcompl.jpg
USCDL/LAT Oct 12, 1930


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics48/00058574.jpgLAPL

Here's a detail of the bank when it was a Merchants National branch...the LAPL dates this picture as April 1925.

I guess they cut the building at the corner and then re-positioned it ? Very bizarre.

ethereal_reality Feb 26, 2014 7:07 PM

Los Angeles Creamery Co. employees
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/545/39u8.jpgebay



wagons/I'm not sure what it says above visitors welcome. "Ranch 2 miles north of _____".
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/198/3zps.jpgebay

above:The rear tire on the truck looks like it's only a rim.




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/691/vn7z.jpg
ebay




detail
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/850/3ph2.jpg
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