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ethereal_reality Dec 30, 2020 9:49 PM

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We have seen the Munster's car on Hollywood Boulevard but I don't believe we have seen this particular slide.

I thought it might be parked in front of The Haunted House but this place appears to be strictly a restaurant.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/TBi1RF.jpg
eBay





.............The kid is going to the movies.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/8f3Bl0.jpg

......................He's picking his seat. ....




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HossC Dec 30, 2020 10:21 PM

:previous:

They're outside Aldo's at 6413 Hollywood Boulevard, seen here in 1966. Various sources I found say it's where Sonny met Cher.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds
www.reddit.com

Martin Pal Dec 30, 2020 11:44 PM

:previous:

Now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7549175)
[...]
In a book, Cher revealed that she met Sonny Bono at Aldo's (in 1962) and mentioned it was next to KFWB Radio station.
[...]
http://www.iamnotastalker.com/wp-con...of-7_thumb.jpg
I Am Not a Stalker Blog
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Lwize Dec 31, 2020 2:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slauson Slim (Post 9145297)
There was an oil rig on the grounds of Beverly Hills High School.

There still is.

HossC Dec 31, 2020 1:13 PM

:previous:

According to an April 2020 article at beverlypress.com:
As part of its consent calendar on March 31, the Beverly Hills City Council unanimously approved what is expected to be the final allocation of funds for plugging 19 oil wells on the Beverly Hills High School campus.

To date, 16 wells have been capped and are now abandoned, and work continues on the 17th well. The city hopes to finish the entire project by October, according to Beverly Hills Director of Public Works Shana Epstein.
My quick search didn't find any articles saying whether or not they did complete the plugging works this year.

John Maddox Roberts Dec 31, 2020 6:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 9145508)
The T-Bird is a a 1955 or 1956.

Cheers,

Earl

That's a 1955 Chevy BelAire behind the T-Bird.

riichkay Dec 31, 2020 8:13 PM

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEtol1sCrjg&t=13s

Just posted to YouTube in the last few days, very high quality remastered 16mm film of a drive down Hill St., 1961.

Martin Pal Dec 31, 2020 8:35 PM

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"It's New Year's Eve and hopes are high
Dance one year in, kiss one good-bye..."



Happy New Year
Noirishers!


https://www.langtra.com/wp-content/u...bservatory.jpg


Sound the brass, roll the drum.
To the world of tomorrow we come.
See the sun through the grey.
It's the dawn of a new day.
Here we come young and old;
Come to watch all the wonders unfold
And the tune that we play.
It's the dawn of a new day
Tell the world
At the door
That we don't want him 'round any more.
Better times
Here to stay
As we live and laugh the American way.
Listen one, listen all.
There can be no resisting the call.
Come hail the dawn of a new day!

BillinGlendaleCA Jan 1, 2021 3:54 AM

Happy New Year, Noirishers!

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...5rWmpdR-XL.jpg by me.

robeach11 Jan 1, 2021 3:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 9146486)

That is one phenomenal shot.

BillinGlendaleCA Jan 1, 2021 6:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robeach11 (Post 9146487)
That is one phenomenal shot.

Thanks, that's from last year(Dec. 2019), this year had a bit less snow and more clouds.

GaylordWilshire Jan 1, 2021 4:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 9145271)
This undated photo must be later than 1952 because it features an early Ford Thunderbird, but I don't think it's much later. As you can see, the block is being dismantled.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds
Huntington Digital Library


I got curious about the Matt Talbot Canteen--here's an item from the Times of Feb 12, 1955:

https://i.postimg.cc/GmgwntqH/zicari1.png


And here is a much longer story about skid row from the Times, June 15, 1953:

https://www-proquest-com.i.ezproxy.n...ccountid=35635



Quote:

Originally Posted by John Maddox Roberts (Post 9146065)
That's a 1955 Chevy BelAire behind the T-Bird.

And to get anal about cars...that would be a '55 T'bird rather than a '56--no continental kit, which would have obscured the hood crest on the '55 Chevy...which is a Two-Ten rather than a Bel-Air....

https://i.postimg.cc/ncMGwLjd/tbirdchev210-bmp.jpg

ethereal_reality Jan 1, 2021 5:21 PM

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Happy New Year everyone!


Hollywood New Year's party, 1952....(venue unknown)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/qpSMHW.jpg
livejournal

That's the Tarzan of that day, Lex Barker, with his wife, actress Arlene Dahl. But they were soon-to-be the ex-Mr. & Mrs. Barker.

I couldn't help but notice Dahl's, and the other lady's, masks.:previous: They made me think of a movie I saw as a little kid, Queen of Outer Space (1958), that has haunted my imagination ever since.


The film starred Zsa Zsa Gabor & featured Amazon-like women who carried spears and wore elaborate (sexy?) masks similar to the masks worn at the 1952 New Year's Eve party.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Oueen of Outer Space
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/X71G2X.jpg
lissatownsend

Then it occured to me that perhaps the masks were made by the same Hollywood designer.

. . .which led me to Jorgett Strumme (I'll return to her later)...Irene Cane (nope, not her either). . .umm. . .


This is going to need a lot more research.



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John Maddox Roberts Jan 1, 2021 6:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 9146658)
I got curious about the Matt Talbot Canteen--here's an item from the Times of Feb 12, 1955:

https://i.postimg.cc/GmgwntqH/zicari1.png


And here is a much longer story about skid row from the Times, June 15, 1953:

https://www-proquest-com.i.ezproxy.n...ccountid=35635





And to get anal about cars...that would be a '55 T'bird rather than a '56--no continental kit, which would have obscured the hood crest on the '55 Chevy...which is a Two-Ten rather than a Bel-Air....

https://i.postimg.cc/ncMGwLjd/tbirdchev210-bmp.jpg

Ach! I stand corrected! (flogs self with imaginary scourge).

Arch2000 Jan 2, 2021 6:56 AM

Happy New Year everybody!! Here's to a better 2021 than most of us had for 2020!

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjenn (Post 9144725)
I'm wondering if the posters on this thread know about whatwasthere.com? I just discovered it yesterday. It's a google map site that allows users to upload photos of historical/vanished structures to their original location so they appear on google streetview.

I'd also recommend a similar site called PastVu. It's Russian-based, so defaults to Moscow and their equivalent service for google maps, but you can make adjustments so it's easier to use. They accept photos up to the year 2000, so not all are really that old, but most pics seem to be from pre-1970s.

One caveat, as the individual users upload the photos, sometimes the locations and info given has been wrong, I've noticed in a few. But it's still good for a spin around any areas you're interested in.

ethereal_reality Jan 2, 2021 6:10 PM

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mystery fountain or water main break?

FYI:..We have seen Welch's previously on NLA.

I recently happened upon this original slide on eBay & I can't figure out what the heck is going on in the foreground. :shrug:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/avYNrr.jpg
eBay

Is it some sort of fountain or a water main break?...Whatever it is it appears that some prankster emptied a box of LUX detergent into it!





As a reminder: Here's a photograph that HossC posted back in the earlier days of the thread. Welch's was located at 4401 Atlantic Blvd. in Long Beach.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/TqmpFV.jpg
skyscraperpage.

Does anyone know what was across the street from the restaurant? (site of the mystery 'fountain' thingy)


To see Welch's unique interior go Here.

But first, help me out with this 'fountain' mystery. :superwhip

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odinthor Jan 2, 2021 8:08 PM

:previous:

Happy to oblige, e_r:

https://i.postimg.cc/J4DnXZ4h/Welchs-Area.jpg
Detail of pic at https://hslb.org/product/bixby-knoll...center-c-1954/

ethereal_reality Jan 3, 2021 2:23 AM

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:previous:

Thanks, odinthor.



Sadly, there's a Starbucks that takes up the entire space of the former traffic island.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/SRiK9s.jpg
GSV


I took a ride down to the former site of Welch's and was surprised to see that the Starbucks incorporated a fountain into their design scheme. (I've never seen this before)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/ks9jOO.jpg
GSV

My guess is. . .the city sold the triangular parcel of land to a developer with the stipulated that a fountain be included in the project to make up for the loss of the old fountai.

If true. .it's a sorry replacement, of what appears to have been, (judging from odinthor's aerial) a rather large circular civic fountain....

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/GBl0gf.jpg

I think it's a reprehensible loss. . . f*ck starbucks!




My kingdom :pimpdaddy: for a street level photograph of the LOST fountain.
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Martin Pal Jan 3, 2021 4:49 AM

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What Zsa Zsa Gabor, as Talleah, thinks of The Queen from Outer Space:

Video Link

GaylordWilshire Jan 3, 2021 2:00 PM

:previous:


I can think of several uses for that clip....


Came across these ads in the the 1897 CD--I just like the graphics:

https://i.postimg.cc/rs1CQNwK/bohemia1000.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/7Yqgq7Ln/laengrave-bmp.jpg
LAPL

Martin Pal Jan 3, 2021 8:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 9147853)
:previous:
I can think of several uses for that clip....
_________________________________________________________________

.....:)
:cheers:

CityBoyDoug Jan 4, 2021 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7513412)
I was going to post this Julius Shulman photo yesterday, but then I came across a load of extra pictures to sort through. This is the only one in "Job 416: Welch's (Long Beach, Calif.), 1949".


http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
SDSU Library & Information Access

Went to Welch's many times as it was an adult restaurant that always welcomed children. I've recently communicated with the one of Mr. Welch's daughters. She sent me some of the old matchbooks from the restaurant.

Mr. Welch was the manager of the Long Beach Naval Base Officer's Club during WW II.

ethereal_reality Jan 4, 2021 6:01 PM

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:previous: I'm intrigued by the stylized neon palm tree. I'd love to see it lit (lighted?) up.





This morning I happened upon this framed photograph of Julie's Restaurant located near USC at Figueroa & Exposition Blvd. (c.1948)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/KHK3X8.jpg
eBay



Here's the information on the back of the frame.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/e2YYEX.jpg




Here's a closer look at the people at the end of the bar.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/akF71a.jpg



FYI

Julie's has only been mentioned one time on NLA.
Quote:

Originally Posted by bighen (Post 6231025)

Lemster reminded me that on the east side of Figueroa going south from Exposition was a USC parking lot, then two homes that served as USC offices, Julie's Restaurant (old USC hangout especially after football games), then Margarita Jones Restaurant. Then crossing Flower, was a parking lot for a medical office/clinic, then a row of apartments (perhaps this is where your Aunt Rose lived across the Sports Arena) and then when you reach Santa Barbara Ave (now MLK Blvd) was the Hotel Coliseum:

You can see the rest of bighen's post Here



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Martin Pal Jan 4, 2021 6:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 9148275)
Mr. Welch was the manager of the Long Beach Naval Base Officer's Club during WW II.
_________________________________________________________________


First I looked to see if I could find a photo of the Officer's Club. When built, it was called the Allen Center.


Roosevelt Naval Base - Long Beach Naval Station - Construction - Allen Center, Gym , Boating Center - Navy Yard under Construction - March 6, 1942 [Ocean at bottom.]
[For closer views, click the photo below, and then click that photo again.]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...A_-_295525.jpgWikimediaCommons https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/p...shtray-USN.jpgPicClick

A completed 1943 view: [Ocean at right.]

https://www.paulrwilliamsproject.org...u_1-thumb6.jpg

Construction of this complex, named Roosevelt Base, took place between 1940 and 1943, and cost $18 million, funded by Congressional appropriations. Included were the gymnasium (Bldg. #23), squash/handball courts and locker rooms (#22), a swimming pool (#233) and tennis courts (#221), arcade (#234), lounge and bowling alley (#20), officers' club (#24), and fleet landing building (#10), administration building (#1), dispensary (#2), fire station (#3), central heating plant (#4), labor board building (#41), gatehouse (#40), and main gates (gate 1), and a net pier (pier 7, structure 126), and extensive landscaping.


Roosevelt Base | Officers Club
(Building No. 24)
Corner of Pennsylvania Street and Richardson Avenue

This photo below of the building is from the Historic American Buildings Survey done in 1996 when the Long Beach Naval base was being decommissioned.

VIEW OF BUILDING 24, WEST AND SOUTH SIDES, FACING NORTHEAST - Roosevelt Base, Officers' Club, Corner of Pennsylvania Street & Richardson Avenue, Long Beach, Los Angeles County, CA

https://tile.loc.gov/storage-service...s/325504pv.jpgLibrary of Congress

Building 24, built in 1942 at the cost of $350,586, was designed for use as a recreational area with swimming pool, dining facilities, locker rooms, and lounges for officers. It is currently used as an Officers' Club. [1996] Its construction was part of a plan to provide recreational and administrative facilities for the Pacific Fleet anchored in San Pedro harbor. The construction of this complex was part of a nationwide military effort to replace deteriorating World War I temporary buildings with new permanent facilities to attract and retain post-war peacetime forces. Rather than using a standard design from the Bureau of Yards and Docks, the Navy, through Allied Engineers, hired local civilian architects Adrian Wilson and Paul R. Williams. As a result the buildings, designed in the International Style with Mediterranean Revival details, are unique to the Base. From: Bldg. 24/Historic American Buildings Survey

Of the originally designed building, the survey concludes:

Building 24, the original Officers' Club called the Allen Center, was once a dominant building in the recreation complex, but has been so remodeled that its original International Style attributes have been overwhelmed. The dramatic port cochere, now hidden by landscaping, the pool side door, set within window walls, and the entry door are the only original elements remaining with architectural integrity.


The dramatic port cochere, now hidden by landscaping...

https://tile.loc.gov/storage-service...s/325509pv.jpgLibrary of Congress

The pool side door, set within window walls...

https://tile.loc.gov/storage-service...s/325511pv.jpgLibrary of Congress


The entry door...

https://tile.loc.gov/storage-service...s/325510pv.jpgLibrary of Congress

Here's a couple photos of interiors and exteriors taken from the Paul Williams Project Website gallery section:

Interior, 1944:

https://www.paulrwilliamsproject.org...24n-thumb6.jpg


Library, 1994:

https://www.paulrwilliamsproject.org...38n-thumb6.jpg


Lounge, 1944:
https://www.paulrwilliamsproject.org...32n-thumb6.jpg

One of the major features of the Wilson and Williams Roosevelt Naval Base design was the importance of landscaping. Created by Walter Hammond Sadler, a noted landscape architect, considerable funds were included in both the initial and continuing budget for building and maintaining the base grounds. ($175,000 in 1944) Roosevelt Naval Base was one of the last significant government sponsored landscape projects undertaken after the attack on Pearl Harbor. Basing his plan on City Beautiful movement principles, Sadler incorporated large-scale lawns, native plants (date and fan palms, Moreton Bay fig, olive trees, laurel fig, etc.) and over-sized concrete planters. His design gave the government facility a residential California flavor.

https://www.paulrwilliamsproject.org...6pu-thumb6.jpg

https://www.paulrwilliamsproject.org...3pu-thumb6.jpg

pjenn Jan 4, 2021 6:47 PM

Woodlake Bowl
 
Welch's reminds me of a building near where I grew up in the 50s and 60s, the Woodlake Bowl as it was called then.

Here's a picture from the Los Angeles Historic Resources Inventory.

https://i.postimg.cc/FRvs4gw6/woodlakebowl.jpg

http://historicplacesla.org/reports/...2-9cea2f1a7f0a

When I was in Jr. High, my English teacher assigned the class to write an essay about a significant building near our homes. Since where I lived the Woodlake Bowl was the only building of any type other than houses, I chose it. Years later, after attending college and traveling through Europe, I remembered my essay with embarrasment. What a dope I was to chose such a cheesy ugly building to write about! Then came the 90s and mid-century modernism became the rage. Now I look back and think how prescient I was in writing about it only a year after its construction. As they say, I'd rather be lucky than good.

Martin Pal Jan 4, 2021 9:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9148789)
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:previous: I'm intrigued by the stylized neon palm tree. I'd love to see it lit (lighted?) up.
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Welch's Restaurant


It looks like there were two of these neon signs, one on each side:

https://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/17/91/41/66/69832610.jpgServimg

Close up detail of the entrance...and vintage taxi.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7108/...1532d64671.jpg


https://i.servimg.com/u/f39/17/91/41/66/69832611.jpgServimg


On some further searching, in an article from On Bunker Hill, it appears the above photos were taken by George Mann. In that article it says they wished he'd hung around to capture the neon sign illuminated, but it IS illuminated here isn't it? The glass tubing isn't in color unless it's turned on. Maybe they meant they wished to see it at night.

Wiki info: A neon tube is a sealed glass tube with a metal electrode at each end, filled with one of a number of gases at low pressure. A high potential of several thousand volts applied to the electrodes ionizes the gas in the tube, causing it to emit colored light. The color of the light depends on the gas in the tube.

CityBoyDoug Jan 5, 2021 9:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9149028)
Welch's Restaurant


It looks like there were two of these neon signs, one on each side:

https://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/17/91/41/66/69832610.jpgServimg

Close up detail of the entrance...and vintage taxi.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7108/...1532d64671.jpg


https://i.servimg.com/u/f39/17/91/41/66/69832611.jpgServimg


On some further searching, in an article from On Bunker Hill, it appears the above photos were taken by George Mann. In that article it says they wished he'd hung around to capture the neon sign illuminated, but it IS illuminated here isn't it? The glass tubing isn't in color unless it's turned on. Maybe they meant they wished to see it at night.

Wiki info: A neon tube is a sealed glass tube with a metal electrode at each end, filled with one of a number of gases at low pressure. A high potential of several thousand volts applied to the electrodes ionizes the gas in the tube, causing it to emit colored light. The color of the light depends on the gas in the tube.

I believe the neon sign is lit....it was very subtle. The round part of the building is the bar area and restrooms.

Towards the end of its life, the restaurant was turned into a tacky smorgasbord place for local people. I went there one time in 1968....the entire place was a mere shadow of its former glory as a sophisticated eatery with the Welch family at the helm. :(

CityBoyDoug Jan 5, 2021 9:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9148817)
First I looked to see if I could find a photo of the Officer's Club. When built, it was called the Allen Center.


One of the major features of the Wilson and Williams Roosevelt Naval Base design was the importance of landscaping. Created by Walter Hammond Sadler, a noted landscape architect, considerable funds were included in both the initial and continuing budget for building and maintaining the base grounds. ($175,000 in 1944) Roosevelt Naval Base was one of the last significant government sponsored landscape projects undertaken after the attack on Pearl Harbor. Basing his plan on City Beautiful movement principles, Sadler incorporated large-scale lawns, native plants (date and fan palms, Moreton Bay fig, olive trees, laurel fig, etc.) and over-sized concrete planters. His design gave the government facility a residential California flavor.

https://www.paulrwilliamsproject.org...6pu-thumb6.jpg

Today in 2021 the entire Navy Base has been turned over to the Chinese for a shipping port and container yard. All of the landscaping and buildings were flattened and the ground is a container parking lot for COSCO. The City of Long Beach decided that they would rather have a Chinese goods port than the US Navy.

ethereal_reality Jan 6, 2021 8:55 PM

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I don't think the neon is on in the George Mann photograph.



hmm. . .I wonder who's idea it was to put the crab up in the palm tree? It seems a bit odd.

I would have guessed the stylized shape was coral by how it looks on the matchbook.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/ZYdpbW.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/bFjkQV.jpg
eBay


I've looked everywhere for that damn fountain.
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ethereal_reality Jan 6, 2021 9:35 PM

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In my search for the elusive Bixby Knolls fountain I happened upon this art deco maternity hospital a couple of block south on Atlantic Blvd.


"1938 - Art Deco - Maternity Hospital at 3833 Atlantic Avenue."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/QqXc1v.jpg
longbeachhistoricalsociety




This building still stands, relatively, pristine.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/txl98O.jpg
GSV

Today it is a Dental Health Clinic.



ethereal_reality Jan 6, 2021 11:49 PM

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mystery location.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/yLgwDh.jpg
currently on eBay

Does anyone remember this little drum store? (and Guitar Villa)





There are street number but they're either hidden by signs or simply too diificult to read.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/LTuvV0.jpg
detail

"Hootenanny Headquarters" -sounds like fun. :farmer:





I realize politics is anathema to this thread but I have to say I am heartbroken by what is happening in our nation's capitol, today.

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Martin Pal Jan 7, 2021 12:35 AM

:previous:

Yes. It is stunning. But is anyone surprised?


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9151410)
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I don't think the neon is on in the George Mann photograph..

But neon tubing is white. :shrug:

Martin Pal Jan 7, 2021 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 9150160)
Today in 2021 the entire Navy Base has been turned over to the Chinese for a shipping port and container yard. All of the landscaping and buildings were flattened and the ground is a container parking lot for COSCO. The City of Long Beach decided that they would rather have a Chinese goods port than the US Navy.

Well, it wasn't Long Beach that decided to close down the Naval Base. It was done in two steps a few years apart by Washington, D.C., In the 1990's.

I used to frequent the Long Beach Civic Light Opera productions. When the Navy moved out, so did half of their military audience, and they unfortunately shut down.

Long Beach Civic Light Opera Hears the Music, Calls It Quits
by DON SHIRLEY (From Green Book? ;))
APRIL, 1996

Long Beach Civic Light Opera (at the Terrace Theater), a 47-year-old institution that grew from modest community roots into the most prominent musical theater company in Southern California, is going out of business.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...724-story.html

Terrace Theater:

https://www.nguoi-viet.com/wp-conten...hat-nghiep.jpgLongBeachConcertVenues

Long Beach Arena in the background, on left.

odinthor Jan 7, 2021 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9151746)
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mystery location.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/yLgwDh.jpg
currently on eBay

Does anyone remember this little drum store? (and Guitar Villa)

There are street number but they're either hidden by signs or simply too diificult to read.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/LTuvV0.jpg
detail

"Hootenanny Headquarters" -sounds like fun. :farmer:


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e_r, here's Guitar Villa, but the address is slightly different (yours is 6122) . . .

https://i.postimg.cc/vHb1mxyj/Guitar...AT-78-1-22.jpg
LA Times, 1/22/1978

6122 Santa Monica Blvd. (from your photo) is a survivor . . .

https://i.postimg.cc/4dvfCwY3/6122-Santa-Monica.jpg
gsv

And it seems that the 6226 Santa Monica Blvd. address of the ad is also perhaps a survivor:

https://i.postimg.cc/QNb804L4/6226-Santa-Monica.jpg
gsv

Martin Pal Jan 7, 2021 1:02 AM

:previous:

The Pacific Jazz blogspot says this:

Frequent visitors to this blog will have noticed a variety of addresses for Pacific Jazz / World Pacific on the backs of the EP covers and catalogues. The first location was at 6124 Santa Monica Boulevard above the retail space for Roy Harte’s and Remo Belli’s DRUM CITY. The space was an apartment that Roy and Dick converted to offices. Dotty Woodward was in the front “living room” area that looked out on to Santa Monica Boulevard. Charlie Emge occupied one of the bedrooms where the west coast office of Down Beat was located after Charlie relocated to 6124 from his former address at 6110 Santa Monica Boulevard. Other rooms held the offices for Linear Publications and Nocturne Records. The building has changed little since DRUM CITY and Pacific Jazz were located there. The exterior entrance to the apartment upstairs seen at the far right in the photo below framed by tile work can still be seen in the contemporary photo from the mid 1990's.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7RXrP5GK1...ONT®72DPI.jpgPacificJazz

Mid-90's view:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NKwhRio5lL...T+LOCATION.pngPacificJazz

Note the bees!

ethereal_reality Jan 7, 2021 5:58 PM

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:previous:

Thanks for finding the Drum City location, odinthor & for the follow ups Martin Pal. I appreciate it. :)

I didn't realize the importance of the building (the offices upstairs as well as the store fronts). That explains why someone took the photograph.


It appears that 'Aunt B' painted the bees. (the artist's signature is at the top)

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CityBoyDoug Jan 7, 2021 8:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9151829)
Well, it wasn't Long Beach that decided to close down the Naval Base. It was done in two steps a few years apart by Washington, D.C., In the 1990's.

From what I remember, the site property is owned by the city of Long Beach and they had to approve of any property transfer. A local TV personality Huell Howser was deeply involved in the Naval Base's future. He did his best to convert the land and historic buildings to a recreational park for locals.
The main problem is that the Base property is smack dab in an industrial area. This was considered a bad location for a civilian recreation site.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...McB0A&usqp=CAU
Chapman U.

Martin Pal Jan 7, 2021 9:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 9152754)
From what I remember, the site property is owned by the city of Long Beach and they had to approve of any property transfer. A local TV personality Huell Howser was deeply involved in the Naval Base's future. He did his best to convert the land and historic buildings to a recreational park for locals.
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Huell Howser was great. I wish he had been able to do this!
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CBD, thank you for bringing him up because I then looked up on youtube and found out that he did a rare hour long program on this very location and chatted with people who wanted to save the place like you described above and those who thought it might be a done deal already that it was to be made into a container port. He urges people at the end of the program to contact the then current Mayor of Long Beach with their opinions. I so far have only checked out portions of the program, but it includes historical photos and film footage as well as then current views of the place, including aerials. It does seem a shame that many of the wonderfully designed historical buildings and beautiful ocean settings had to give way to something rather heartless and soul crushing. The program is from 1996. (It was only posted to youtube three months ago.)

Visiting With Huell Howser- Long Beach Naval Station

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He also did a half-hour 1995 program about the shipyard itself.
Visiting with Huell Howser: Long Beach Naval Shipyard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io9D7Fp58JQ

There is also a 39 minute documentary produced for The Port of Long Beach in 1999, filled with lots of historical information and footage:
A Tale of Two Bases: The Long Beach Naval Station and Naval Shipyard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2ai0JA1hUY

I suppose the Port of Long Beach commissioned a documentary to remember what they'd gotten rid of. :rolleyes:

CityBoyDoug Jan 9, 2021 6:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9148817)
First I looked to see if I could find a photo of the Officer's Club. When built, it was called the Allen Center.

https://www.paulrwilliamsproject.org...u_1-thumb6.jpg

I lived on this Base for 9 months. I was part of the Admiral's staff for the Pacific Mine Force.

Barracks were built on the blank land in the middle of the photo. That was my home. Bob Hope's son had a room above mine and he like to bounce golf balls on the floor. I finally went up there and politely asked him to stop the noise....he did, thank you. He usually denied who he was but everyone knew the truth. He had one friend and mostly kept to himself. This was 1968.
By the time I arrived at this Base many of the buildings we see in this photo were long gone and had been replaced by new construction. At the far left there are two sand parking lots for sailors who were at sea on ships or stationed at the Base as I was.
The last time I was on this Base was when Royal Yacht Britannia docked there. Nancy Reagan wanted to ride the yacht up to San Francisco. She was denied this glory because of bad weather on the route. Even the Queen took to the air for the trip north.

Thanks Martin for your research, great load of photos and videos.!

Snix Jan 11, 2021 3:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9151842)
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The Pacific Jazz blogspot says this:

Frequent visitors to this blog will have noticed a variety of addresses for Pacific Jazz / World Pacific on the backs of the EP covers and catalogues. The first location was at 6124 Santa Monica Boulevard above the retail space for Roy Harte’s and Remo Belli’s DRUM CITY. The space was an apartment that Roy and Dick converted to offices. Dotty Woodward was in the front “living room” area that looked out on to Santa Monica Boulevard. Charlie Emge occupied one of the bedrooms where the west coast office of Down Beat was located after Charlie relocated to 6124 from his former address at 6110 Santa Monica Boulevard. Other rooms held the offices for Linear Publications and Nocturne Records. The building has changed little since DRUM CITY and Pacific Jazz were located there. The exterior entrance to the apartment upstairs seen at the far right in the photo below framed by tile work can still be seen in the contemporary photo from the mid 1990's.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7RXrP5GK1...ONT®72DPI.jpgPacificJazz

Mid-90's view:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NKwhRio5lL...T+LOCATION.pngPacificJazz

Note the bees!

Roy Harte recorded a terrific Exotica record called Perfect Percussion at Drum City on Santa Monica Blvd. in 1961. I imagine all of these neat instruments were in stock at the store. He was still working there around 2000 and autographed my album.
https://img.discogs.com/sFzOGgE5ZGAI...-4001.jpeg.jpg
Discogs.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMvnGXLdv1s

ethereal_reality Jan 11, 2021 11:33 PM

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Very cool. ...Thanks Snix. :)



Here they're using one of their drums for a different purpose.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/pUJmDJ.jpg


Cleaning up the front of the store.

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ethereal_reality Jan 11, 2021 11:53 PM

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mystery location.



Here is the eBay seller's description of the photograph.

"Los Angeles...Gun Club?...1900?...Claude F. Hale, Photographer.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/SbBnGR.jpg
eBay / old file





. . . . 2323 Grand Avenue. . . .Los Angeles Cal.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/BBuGq5.jpg





Let's take a closer look at this group of men. ... Look closely and you'll see at least two clues.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/wynh5T.jpg
detail

As you can see, a man in the front row has a Star of David with arrow going through it. The number 3 is within the star.

A man in the second row (on left) has letters that appear to be backward on his sweater.


. . . . . . . . . . . . . :shrug:


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ethereal_reality Jan 12, 2021 12:39 AM

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Here's a more recent mystery location.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/WHit81.jpg
eBay









A closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/4Oma5e.jpg

Note the tall building in the distance that appears to be under construction.


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Engineeral Jan 12, 2021 12:59 AM

Flipped Negative?
 
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9156751)
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Let's take a closer look at this group of men. ... Look closely and you'll see at least two clues.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/wynh5T.jpg
detail

As you can see, a man in the front row has a Star of David with arrow going through it. The number 3 is within the star.

A man in the second row (on left) has letters that appear to be backward on his sweater.


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A six-pointed star is not *always* a Star of David.
And if you flip the picture left-for-right then the "3" becomes an "E" and the reversed letters appear normal.

sopas ej Jan 12, 2021 1:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9156780)
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Here's a more recent mystery location.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/WHit81.jpg
eBay







A closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/4Oma5e.jpg

Note the tall building in the distance that appears to be under construction.


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There used to be a Sears on Pico and Rimpau, a long time ago. It was in the vicinity of what's now the Midtown Crossing Shopping Center. I'm thinking this could be it?

HenryHuntington Jan 12, 2021 3:54 AM

Sopas ej, FWIW I concur. I believe the photo was taken looking NW from the West Blvd. bridge over Venice Blvd.

CaliNative Jan 12, 2021 1:15 PM

A closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/4Oma5e.jpg

Note the tall building in the distance that appears to be under construction.


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The skyscraper under construction several miles away is the 28 story California Federal Savings & Loan headquarters building (since renamed since Cal. Fed. S&L is no more) in the "Miracle Mile" district of Wilshire near the tar pits & Hancock Park. This building was under construction about 1964-65, so that dates the photo.The blue building to the right is Lee Tower, and the tan building to the right of that held the local offices of Mutual of Omaha, a company made famous by Marlin Perkins on "Wild Kingdom" in the 1960s. Besides his wildlife TV show, Perkins was also director of the St. Louis Zoo. The Carnation company (now part of Nestle) was also headquartered in this area of Wilshire in the 1960s.

HossC Jan 12, 2021 1:53 PM

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Here's a couple of images of Sears that I posted in 2014. The full post showing the Pico & Rimpau loop is here.

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6554104)
A couple of days ago I posted a 1940 aerial picture of Lafayette Square. The aerial below shows the area slightly west. This one has "48" in the lower right corner and the Lafayette Square one has "49", so I assume they are part of a set which was taken at the same time. On the far left is the Red Car viaduct over Pico at San Vicente. FredH wrote about the viaduct in post #5381.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...icoRimlau1.jpg
USC Digital Library

Just below center, the large white structure is Sears. The picture below is from 1939.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...APicoSears.jpg
USC Digital Library


CityBoyDoug Jan 12, 2021 5:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9156780)
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Here's a more recent mystery location.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/WHit81.jpg
eBay

I worked at this Sears in 1965 for about 9 months. My job was in the Display Department. I quit just after Christmas. [I didn't want to do the Christmas take-down]. On Jan 3, 1966 I joined the Navy. This old photo really brings back a lot of memories for me. There were about 7 people in the Display Department and the Supervisor was a really decent fellow... for a change. It was a pleasure to work there....never any pressure. Henry was the women's fashion display expert...he lived in Hollywood and was a character. He enjoyed dressing the female mannequins. Haven't thought about him in 50 years.

ethereal_reality Jan 13, 2021 5:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Engineeral (Post 9156791)
A six-pointed star is not *always* a Star of David.
And if you flip the picture left-for-right then the "3" becomes an "E" and the reversed letters appear normal.

You're correct, Engineeral. It had occurred to me that the photograph was flipped, that is, until I saw the 3. (which isn't a 3 at all)

Here is the photograph flipped.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/z8CUxJ.jpg


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/vymFU4.jpg




https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/wr58EM.jpg






If only we could read this gentleman's tag.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/kWHFnd.jpg



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