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Fantastic pictures! Here's AAF's official video of the first trainset being completed in California:
I noticed that at 0:12 seconds that the cross-section shape of the cars is wider than the locomotives. It's strange to me that a trainset built entirely by one company doesn't match up better. I mean, it's a very small thing but I had thought they would be designed to look seamless. Still, very cool that the trains are starting to roll off the assembly line! Exciting times! |
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Brightline is now in West Palm Beach. They've here!!! Just arrived in West Palm Beach by this early morning. They makes it!!! |
^ Nice and good to see that it made it home thanks for the update-sometime I'd love to get a tour for my family of the Siemens plant since we only live about 25 minutes from it (its in the Florin part of south Sacramento).
Oh just a question that tall tower in the downtown Miami station plan-is that going to be an 800 footer or more? |
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One Miami Central was approved @ 80 stories for a height of 991 feet | 302 m. above ground, or 1,000 feet above sea level. Construction hasn’t started yet, but it is expected to include 600,000 square feet of office space, along with 250 hotel rooms and 280 residential units. http://i.imgur.com/utalB8u.jpg http://i.imgur.com/utalB8u.jpg |
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^ Thanks for the info bobdreamz-Miami looks like it's really getting a nice wave of cool new towers-kinda like la Toronto Miami style. That new Brightline train looks awesome and sometime I'd love to get a tour for my family setup at that Siemens plant which is only about 25 minutes from where I now live.:)
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Is that MiamiCentral station and Brightline system really going to open mid-2017, as in roughly 6-8 months from now????
How integrated are the Metrorail and Metromover stations going to be into this larger complex? Direct skybridges? |
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https://www.jupitermag.com/mccormick...ormick-place-1 good article about new ft laud airport station |
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I seriously think this project is one of the most incredible and groundbreaking developments that's happened to rail/transit in many, many decades, but I'm curious, when this first phase opens, its the same corridor as Tri-Rail at a much higher cost to ride (albeit a better coastal route and faster)? I'm just a little concerned it might have some disappointing numbers when it first opens given its public competition in a state so auto-centric to begin with. Eventually I can see Tri-Rail and Brightline being complementary but initially I see some concerns. I wish them the absolute best, this has the potential to be AMAZING. |
It does kind of seems to me a line to Orlando would eventually want to go a bit further than just Orlando airport but to the Disney World campus. I mean are people really going to fly into Orlando airport to take a train to Miami?
I'm just a little concerned it might have some disappointing numbers when it first opens given its public competition in a state so auto-centric to begin with. Eventually I can see Tri-Rail and Brightline being complementary but initially I see some concerns. LOOK at the quality of Brightline station locations 3 major downtown cities Miami,Ft laud, WPB plus future WAVE streetcar in Ft laud 20-30 years ago those downtowns where NOT good places but very nice now. also about Orlando dont forget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SunRai..._Connection.29 sunrail is still not very good now but after phase 2 and 3 plus 7 days a week service should do better. |
Local connectivity in Orlando seems to be a key to the success of this project. Why would the airport be 'the' destination?
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I would agree with you that the airport would not be the best place if it didn't have the intermodal transportation hub. Alas, that's not going to be the case.:cheers: |
No need to extend the line to Disney World. If you are staying at a Disney hotel, they already have a free bus that takes you and your bags from the Orlando Airport to your hotel:
https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/gu...gical-express/ I imagine if the train becomes a popular way to get to Disney World, they may extend that offer to all ticket-holders, hotel or not. Either way, it should be Disney's job to get people to their resorts from the train station, not AAF's. I agree though, that the southern end of the line is very impressive from an urbanist/car-free perspective, while Orlando is nearly the definition of car-dependent. I know changes are coming. And by stopping at the airport rather than going into downtown, AAF is pointed in the right direction to continue on to Tampa Bay. Though I guess with locomotives on each end it doesn't matter which way the train is pointed; they could share rails with Sunrail into downtown Orlando, switch operating ends, then proceed back down to Tampa. That would be ideal. Perhaps they're waiting for SunRail to pay for improvements from downtown to the airport so that they don't have to pay for it themselves. |
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Downtown West Palm Beach Downtown Fort Lauderdale Downtown Miami http://www.thenextmiami.com/tag/brightline/ |
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Isnt the market for the train mainly getting visitors in the Orlando area down to Miami, Fort Lauderdale and West Palm Beach? Just seems to me the train would be a lot more attractive if there was a station in the Disney World area, where many visitors already are on vacation and would be impulsively taking a trip south car-free. Orlando airport to Disney World travel would be icing on the cake.
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When are schedules going to improve so that it isn't mostly a commuter service? When will Sunrail connect the airport to major Orlando tourist attractions and hotel districts? I realise that the plan calls for an intermodal hub at Orlando airport but when will it actually provide local service? Not just a connection between the airport and the Miami bound train. To me, the local connection is crucial. How many years is the local connection away? |
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So the main purpose of Brightline in Orlando is to transfer rail passengers onto planes?
This leaves me so puzzled. It is so strange to have this expensive train plan but once you get there, you have to rent a car. |
miami has like billions of tourists....
orlando has like billions of tourists..... people from europe take trains everywhere plus UCF students from dade/broward/palm beach heck I live here with a nice car but miami I95 is/was terrible going to Heat games is nasty traffic & parking never will drive to MIA airport ever again |
so it sounds like the spur to Orlando may not even happen? That's crazy. Can't be that much demand for rail transit from WPB to Miami
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and better sunrail service not bad start. http://www.cityoforlando.net/mayor/w...EX-ITF-2-3.jpg merry xmas |
http://www.biscaynegreenmiami.com/events
downtown miami grand opening friday jan 6th |
" V " columns arrive @ the downtown Miami station
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this link is about new rail lines in miami/dade but also bonus link about biscayne green thing thinking of going next week |
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http://sfregionalcouncil.org/trirail/
dec16 meeting about new service opening late 2017 |
http://malled.blog.mypalmbeachpost.c...miami-station/
this article is terrible only good thing is its new Jan9th someone should complain about author. |
MIAMI station opening mid to late 2017
https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...c8&oe=59127AC8 |
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much better article(project?) actually it links back to the other article(malled) |
First signature "V" columns assembled
Brightline Begins New Year with MiamiCentral Milestone
JANUARY 6, 2017 http://gobrightline.com/wp-content/u...3721724640.jpg http://gobrightline.com/wp-content/u...3721724640.jpg Brightline began 2017 with a major construction milestone at MiamiCentral, installing its first five signature V Columns along the East elevation. Constructed of steel and to be encased by precast concrete, these five V Columns are the first of 29 that will be installed, each reaching a staggering 70 feet tall. The steel for each one weighs 8,000 pounds. The "V" Columns provide a defining architectural element to all three of Brightline’s South Florida stations, which have been designed by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill LLP (SOM), one of the largest and most influential architecture, interior design, engineering, and urban planning firms in the world. At MiamiCentral, the Brightline train platform will be elevated to align with existing public transportation systems (Tri-Rail,MetroRail and Metromover.) This bold and innovative design allows thru-streets to remain open to traffic and creates an atmosphere of walkability as well as a landmark terminal. http://gobrightline.com/progress/bri...ral-milestone/ |
i like the way the building matches the train style and color
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http://www.wpbf.com/article/all-aboa...t-time/8616396 |
Brightline reveals its first completed trainset
http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1484797274
http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1484797275 http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1484797275 http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1484797275 http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1484797275 Train cockpit : http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1484797275 Luggage Storage : http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...psa82w1k4j.png Link : http://www.bizjournals.com/southflor...ser-to.html#g7 |
Looks promising. Is it necessary to have two engines for four passenger cars to attain high speed? Can they carry more trailers when ridership warrants such modification?
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I had no idea the Orlando station was that far along. Wow, and thanks for sharing! The pictures on this thread are awesome!
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This is the first privately operated diesel high speed railway in North America. And the first high speed railway outside Northeast. :cheers:
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