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Beaudry Dec 23, 2010 1:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdiederi (Post 5101077)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1.../Converter.jpg
1938, Los Angeles Street, Anaheim
Photograph donated by Ewold Schulz.
Anaheim Public Library Photograph Collection
http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/kt8199q44r/


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...onverter-1.jpg
1938, Intersection of Los Angeles Street and Broadway, Anaheim
Anaheim Public Library Photograph Collection

DopplerFloodWatch 2010TripleX news from the front, i.e. via LA Historic-Cultural-Monument La Paloma, my 1907 Tudor-Craftsman: water in the laundry room, seeping through the balcony, and through the roof of the garage. One preservationist/restoration specialist who works on houses, mine included, basically said "I don't know why people get so worked up about preventing fire, when I've seen a hundred houses destroyed by water."

And that's something to say, in a city built in a desert. Damn you Chas Hatfield!!!

Beaudry Dec 23, 2010 2:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5102295)

Love these, always love the Rex Arms, which was more ornate once until its streamlining, due in part I think to Wilshire's widening.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7294653@N07/1389516175/

ethereal_reality Dec 23, 2010 2:13 AM

Another interesting photo of the Y.W.C.A. at 251 South Hill Street.



http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/7...ywca1918r1.jpg
usc digital archive






Earlier, Beaudry provided this VERY interesting link.
It's worth a look just to see the astonishing light well in this building.

As this link shows, the Y.W.C.A. eventually became the Hotel Belmont.

Los Angeles Past Dec 23, 2010 2:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5102545)
Sott, when i saw the two images i immediately thought of you. your interest in not only this particular corner, but also the U.S. hotel and amestoy building is well known.........

i will try and find out as much as i can about the 1863 photo


Thank you! You know I love everything to do with Temple Square and its environs. :)

I've since remembered this blog post by Larry Harnisch re: an old Nuestro Pueblo article about the U.S. Hotel, indicating it was, indeed, established before the Civil War. So it appears probable that those two photos could have been taken from the exact same vantage point in the U.S. Hotel, after all, 62 years apart.

I also note with interest that, in the 1925 photo, the majority of the Temple Block had already been razed for the construction of the new City Hall. I didn't realize before this that site preparations started as early as that...

-Scott

ethereal_reality Dec 23, 2010 2:25 AM

Hill Street & Court Street, 1943. A perfect place for a "noir" rendezvous.


http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5...ourtst1943.jpg
ucla

ethereal_reality Dec 23, 2010 2:39 AM

Looking north on Grand Ave. from Fourth St. in 1913.


http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2...elookingno.jpg
usc digital archive




For more information on the Hotel Fleur De Lis.

http://onbunkerhill.org/bryan_mansion#comment-29

Beaudry Dec 23, 2010 3:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5102305)

I like how the first of these are shot from atop the old Shell building. (Now the site of that LA Self Storage structure at 6th & Beaudry what used to be a black-glass office building.) The big white building up Bunker Hill is the Alta Vista, former home of John Fante. The big white building at the end of the new highway is The Monarch Hotel. And the structure behind the Wellington is not long for this world... http://www.you-are-here.com/los_angeles/statler.html to be demolished in the coming months by Korean Air Lines.

Beaudry Dec 23, 2010 5:26 AM

With so much love in the LBC...
 
In the city, city of Long Beach --

-- so after I put up those motel images I figger'd I'd put up some more and then cogitated, well, aren't there a mess more o' those motels in the LBC? But when I commenced digging thru my Long Beach cards fer motels I kept coming up with too much amusing stuff not to share. Therefore. I must inundate you with Long Beach and its immediate, random environs as I see fit.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1407/...a5371b78_o.jpg
I love Boardwalk Empire, but how can/does their boardwalk compare to ours? Please! And look at those opal glass signs.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5283/...a10ff9eb_o.jpg

Bisby's Spiral Airship!! From Wapedia -- http://wapedia.mobi/en/The_Pike

The Pike was an amusement zone started in 1902 in Long Beach, California at the shoreline south of Ocean Boulevard with several independent arcades, food stands, gift shops, a variety of rides and a grand bath house. It was most noted for the "Cyclone Racer" (1930), a large wooden dual track roller coaster, built out on pilings over the water. The Pike operated under several names. The amusement zone surrounding the Pike, "Silver Spray Pier", was included along with additional parking in the post World War II expansion, it was all renamed Nu-Pike in the mid 60's, then renamed Queens Park before closure and demolition when the long-term contract with the city ran out in 1979.

Bisby's Spiral Airship built in 1902 had cars that were suspended underneath a track and could swing freely. The cars travelled up an inclined track, and then descended along a spiral track around a steel frame tower before returning to the station. This is commonly acknowledged as the first suspended roller coaster type ride.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5089/...3776eb9e_o.jpg

Now, of the Hotel Virginia:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5123/...8ddff0f8_o.jpg

...that's an entire thread unto itself. There's a whole world of postcards and letterhead and whatnot devoted to the Virginia, and rightfully so, but I won't go into that now. (This shot might be well included in the "LA at Night" album I put together once upon a time ago.) http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...arch/CHS-14358

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5083/...2540c9b1_o.jpg

Mmm. The Hotel De Luxe. Ocean at Locust. Scene of many a noir happening one can surmise. As is true with the preceding images? Don't try looking for them on Google Maps.

Beaudry Dec 23, 2010 7:41 AM

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5088/...442ca172_o.jpg

Surf Motel, full-tile showers, vented wall heat, radios.

Here's some Loooong Beach. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQycSM8pAmw If anyone tells you it's NSFW, you can throw up your signs and say "Pardon me, kind sir, but would you be so accommodating as to get the funyun out? Thank you."

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5083/...94f2c9ea_o.jpg

Here's some more Loooong Beach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE_Y8wh-wOs though be advised I have a high tolerance for bad language and bad behavior; you may not. Click at your advised discretion.
And now, the Chace Inn:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5083/...5912248e_o.jpg


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5284/...11180a90_o.jpg

HEmlock 6-8204

Sleep to the sound of the surf. Free television.

Beaudry Dec 23, 2010 8:00 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZIauKrL_b4

Also hit this http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5082/...93aedf0e_o.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZIauKrL_b4

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5202/...87dddbf5_o.jpg

Ok, this one is on Long Beach Blvd. In the CPT. So sue me.

gsjansen Dec 23, 2010 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5102305)
Construction of the Harbor Freeway, 1952.




http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8...reeway1952.jpg

if you look just to the left of the roof of the monarch hotel, you can see "stuie k's", (oliver) brand new joint on it's perch at 4th and hope.


Quote:

Originally Posted by beaudry (Post 5102941)

this post card is spookalicious! bring the kiddies to see the sunken gardens at the virginia...........creeps deluxe! i bet the desk clerk's dressed in black

:runaway:

gsjansen Dec 23, 2010 3:49 PM

i don't believe i have ever seen this particular image taken from the angels flight observation tower looking east.

The photo is undated, but i'm gonna guess maybe 1911, due to the hulburt building standing, but the Ferguson building not yet. (i think i read somewhere that the ferguson building was completed in 1912....)

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-44024?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-44024?v=hr

this image is from 1951 looking east at the west portal of the third street tunnel which is being cleaned......hey even noir needs a cleaning every now and then.........

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...148-019~2?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archives http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...148-019~2?v=hr

gsjansen Dec 23, 2010 3:57 PM

oh... and speaking of spooky night time postcards, guaranteed to scare the bejeesus out of any perspective tourists


http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cg...B=1&DMROTATE=0
Source: LMU|LA http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cg...B=1&DMROTATE=0

maybe someone thought this would scream on the rack "welcome to sunny los angeles" (me?... i hear moaning and chains rattlin'......:eek: )

Beaudry Dec 23, 2010 6:10 PM

Masters Pontiac -- since 1919!
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5288/...a9f87fee_o.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5127/...0c4e3fce_o.jpg

Like the KEHE/KFI building, the Ambassador, etc, 1545 Long Beach Blvd has been replaced by a school. And of Pontiac...

Beaudry Dec 23, 2010 6:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5103234)
i don't believe i have ever seen this particular image taken from the angels flight observation tower looking east.

The photo is undated, but i'm gonna guess maybe 1911, due to the hulburt building standing, but the Ferguson building not yet. (i think i read somewhere that the ferguson building was completed in 1912....)

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-44024?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-44024?v=hr

this image is from 1951 looking east at the west portal of the third street tunnel which is being cleaned......hey even noir needs a cleaning every now and then.........

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...148-019~2?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archives http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...148-019~2?v=hr

These are both incredible. I haven't seen them either til now. I guess USC has a backlog of images they're sneaking in on us! Which is why one should always keep poking around...

Beaudry Dec 23, 2010 6:23 PM

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5207/...519f779b_b.jpg
3503 Atlantic Blvd, ph GA 4-3005
"Eat your favorite foods from South of the border surrounded by scenes of the bullfights, Mexican courtyards and of course, the siesta."

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5129/...36370710_o.jpg
Welch's -- "Southern California's Most Beautiful Restaurant"
4401 Atlantic Blvd

Beaudry Dec 23, 2010 6:31 PM

Mytinger & Casselberry, International Distributors of Nutrilite Food Supplement, Long Beach, Calif.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5003/...f6ecd44d_o.jpg

In 1948, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration seized shipments of Nutrilite, then distributed by a California firm, Mytinger & Casselberry Inc. The FDA claimed that a booklet with the product made false claims that it would cure diseases. The distributor brought suit, claiming the seizures were unconstitutional. In 1950, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the seizure was constitutional.

In 1951 the FDA again acted against Nutrilite, issuing a landmark order forbidding 15,000 door-to-door salesmen of the product from making "extravagant" claims for Nutrilite. The FDA prohibited claims that Nutrilite had value in treating 57 diseases, including "cancer, heart trouble, diabetes, arthritis and rheumatism." The FDA said that such claims could endanger the public health when made "in the privacy of the home."
(Wikipedia)


Personnel Employment, Affiliated with Personnel Research and Development, 758 Long Beach Blvd
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5289/...003cf666_o.jpg

GaylordWilshire Dec 23, 2010 6:44 PM

Meanwhile, farther down the coast from Long Beach...
 
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2542/...2b1c6c49e2.jpghttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2542/...2b1c6c49e2.jpg
Madame Whatever lived in house #3

http://bp1.blogger.com/_nHk4eRE8Qbc/...eskaca1918.jpgnewportbeachpostcards.com


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics40/00054852.jpgLAPL http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics40/00054852.jpg


I don't think I had ever heard of Helena Modjeska--and frankly still wouldn't be much interested in her unnoirish self if not for her real estate on an island I'd also never heard of--before a friend sent me this L.A. Times article of December 5:

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/dec...-then-20101205

GaylordWilshire Dec 23, 2010 8:26 PM

Christmas Parades
 
Downtown, 1929
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics45/00072079.jpgLAPL http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics45/00072079.jpg


Downtown, 1940:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics43/00041014.jpgLAPL http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics43/00041014.jpg
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics43/00041015.jpgLAPL http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics43/00041015.jpg



Hollywood Santa Claus Lane Parade, ca. 1950:
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011451.jpgLAPL http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011451.jpg
Phil Harris and Alice Faye. (I'm assuming that these mini-Alices with them are their
daughters... if so, it allows me to boast shamefully of a personal brush with celebrity:
One of the girls and her husband lived across the street from me in New Orleans in
the early '60s. Of course, at age 8 or 9 I had no idea who her mother was, but
I do seem to remember a bit of neighborhood buzz once when Alice was
supposedly visiting.)


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011444.jpgLAPL http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011444.jpg
William Bendix


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011442.jpgLAPL http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011442.jpg
Jimmy Durante and Norma Deloris Egstrom,
aka Miss Peggy Lee. (I'd really rather
hear her sing.)


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011453.jpgLAPL http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011453.jpg
Jack Benny


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011450.jpgLAPL http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011450.jpg
Red Skelton


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011445.jpgLAPL http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011445.jpg
Leo Carrillo


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011441.jpgLAPL http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011441.jpg
Eddie Cantor. I love that BROADWAY-
HOLLYWOOD sign


Hollywood and Vine, ca. 1964:
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011440.jpgLAPL http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011440.jpg

Los Angeles Past Dec 23, 2010 8:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 5103442)

That looks like an old Utter-McKinley Mortuary, though that address isn't on my list of UMM chapels dating from 1953...

-Scott

GaylordWilshire Dec 23, 2010 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 5103442)
Mytinger & Casselberry, International Distributors of Nutrilite Food Supplement, Long Beach, Calif.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5003/...f6ecd44d_o.jpg


I wonder where it was in Long Beach, and if it still stands? (I can't find any evidence of it.) Stiles Clements does not seem to have been the architect of the Mytinger & Casselberry building, but I am reminded of our old Miracle Mile friend, the beautiful Mullen-Bluett building, which I think can always bear another look:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/...163bfe8831.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/...163bfe8831.jpg

ethereal_reality Dec 23, 2010 11:01 PM

The Montana Grocery Store on the corner of Temple and Hill, 1908.



http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/481...grocerysto.jpg
usc digital archive

ethereal_reality Dec 23, 2010 11:08 PM

Looking west on Fourth St. The circle is the intersection of Fourth & Broadway.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3...westonfour.jpg
usc digital archive


No date was given.

ethereal_reality Dec 23, 2010 11:13 PM

The caption on this was "looking west from Temple Block, 1874."



http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4...westfromte.jpg
usc digital archive


Quite a few photos of the school have been posted, but I've never noticed that cool looking chapel.

ethereal_reality Dec 23, 2010 11:38 PM

The Lindley on Sixth St. between Broadway and Hill, 1912.



http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6...leysixthst.jpg
usc digital archive


I LOVE the Hat sign that runs up the right side of the building.

sopas ej Dec 24, 2010 1:10 AM

So many great images!!


Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5103234)

this image is from 1951 looking east at the west portal of the third street tunnel which is being cleaned......hey even noir needs a cleaning every now and then.........

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...148-019~2?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archives http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...148-019~2?v=hr

I love that photo. I like the shoeshine booth. I'm sure the shoeshine guy could tell many a tale, if he chose to.

GaylordWilshire Dec 24, 2010 1:53 PM

http://dlproj.library.ucla.edu/deriv...0328377a_j.jpgUCLA Digital Collection http://dlproj.library.ucla.edu/deriv...0328377a_j.jpg
Pershing Square, 1949. (I wish the Alka-Seltzer sign atop the Auditorium Building
had been lit up, but I guess it would have taken away from the beautiful tree.)

ethereal_reality Dec 24, 2010 3:03 PM

The Garfield Building built in 1928 at Hill & 8th St.


http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3...dbldghill8.jpg
usc digital archive




Copper thieves were arrested in the art deco Garfield Building yesterday.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,3137768.story
Mel Melcon/LATIMES

ethereal_reality Dec 24, 2010 3:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5104280)
http://dlproj.library.ucla.edu/deriv...0328377a_j.jpgUCLA Digital Collection http://dlproj.library.ucla.edu/deriv...0328377a_j.jpg
Pershing Square, 1949. (I wish the Alka-Seltzer sign atop the Auditorium Building
had been lit up, but I guess it would have taken away from the beautiful tree.)


What a beautiful image!

Happy Holidays everyone. -ethereal

gsjansen Dec 24, 2010 3:34 PM

we all want some figgy pudding.....................
 
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics21/00030126.jpg
Source: LAPL http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics21/00030126.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics21/00030125.jpg
Source: LAPL http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics21/00030125.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics21/00030124.jpg
Source: LAPL http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics21/00030124.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4049/...2dcc5194_b.jpg

merry merry..................

gsjansen Dec 24, 2010 4:56 PM

dammit!!! don't miss this
 
1923 masquers club new years eve gala! :banana:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5201/...58972b39_z.jpg


http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics42/00070959.jpg
Source: LAPL http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics42/00070959.jpg

GaylordWilshire Dec 24, 2010 6:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5104411)
1923 masquers club new years eve gala! :banana:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5201/...58972b39_z.jpg

OK, I guess I'm too young to remember when the new year began on January 29th.... And that padlock on what would apparently be one of Brenda's girls if this was 1947 rather than '27, '17, or '07 is most disturbing... (what year IS this, anyway?). "Bring your KEYS"?.... Hmmm. The Masquers were one wild bunch! Still, I'd rather hang out with them than him:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5104320)

I guess if I was in need of choppers as badly as this guy, I might resort to swiping copper too. But as the Garfield is one of our downtown treasures, I can't help but notice his resemblance to

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:l...inch-1.jpg&t=1

MikeD Dec 24, 2010 9:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5104411)

This reminded me of an article I had read about the Masqer's clubhouse being torn down. This isn't the same article but it's kind of interesting. I didn't realize it once belonged to actor Antonio Moreno.
http://bigorangelandmarks.blogspot.c...-building.html

Beaudry Dec 24, 2010 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5103760)
I wonder where it was in Long Beach, and if it still stands? (I can't find any evidence of it.) Stiles Clements does not seem to have been the architect of the Mytinger & Casselberry building, but I am reminded of our old Miracle Mile friend, the beautiful Mullen-Bluett building, which I think can always bear another look:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/...163bfe8831.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/...163bfe8831.jpg

Found 'er, 1702-1730 Santa Fe!

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5003/...b0e738dc_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5163/...f6ccdacf_o.jpg

The question as to the architect...that's a good one. It's a damn handsome Late Moderne.

(And I agree, any excuse to look at the Mullen & Bluett is a good one.)

Life Magazine, 2/15/53, via Google Books:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5003/...1428a500_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5045/...a06b1db8_b.jpg

GaylordWilshire Dec 24, 2010 10:45 PM

:previous:

Beaudry-- That is a great find-- amazing-- I looked all over Long Beach (via laptop, that is). Thanks for the Christmas present--now all I need is a hatchet to cut down those trees in front of the Mytinger & Casselberry building. SoCal has too many trees, I've decided. They get in the way! Time for eggnogg! Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays to all!

Beaudry Dec 24, 2010 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5104320)
The Garfield Building built in 1928 at Hill & 8th St.


http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3...dbldghill8.jpg
usc digital archive




Copper thieves were arrested in the art deco Garfield Building yesterday.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2...garfieldbl.jpg



Here's the link to the story.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,3137768.story
Mel Melcon/LATIMES

Having been in Highland Park for a decade and change, I've wanted to produce a brochure that details these are the buildings you can tag. These are the buildings we humbly ask you to not tag.

Do we have to produce a slick foldout called "Stealing Copper from National Register Buildings: It's Also a Moral Crime!" Of course, I'm not altogether certain "David Gardner of Reno" would give it due consideration.

The Garfield (why isn't Beelman better known and respected?) http://articles.latimes.com/2010/aug...tobar-20100813 is LA's premier example of monumental Deco at its most elegant. It always unnerves people when we're walking from the Cicada club to the Seven Grand afterward, and I touch the Garfield and kiss my fingers. Yeah, it's basically a giant mezuzah.

sopas ej Dec 25, 2010 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5104324)

Happy Holidays everyone. -ethereal

Same to you!

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4...111611isla.jpg
1936, Seventh Street looking west towards Figueroa, USC Archive

LASpaceCadet Dec 25, 2010 5:34 AM

Fourth Street west of Hope
 
OK, let me start by saying that this picture has vexed my OCD addled brain for over a year:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5246/...6a8c0a9313.jpg
Source: http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../AAA-EN-106-31

It is captioned, "View looking north on Boylston between First and Temple, Los Angeles, 1937" and includes a Hotel Phiben. However, none of the pieces seemed to fit. I finally had a breakthrough when my google search turned up a "Hotel Philbin" at 1015 W 4th Street that was torn down in 1958 for a freeway.

I then rediscovered this pic from an old post that confirmed that the mislabeled pic is actually a view looking west from 4th & Hope on Bunker Hill.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 4841758)
here is an image i found shot from the intersection of 4th Street at Figueroa looking east.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics08/00013938.jpg
LAPL

the photo is not dated, it shows the Briggs on the south side of 4th, and then the hildreth mansion on the north side of 4th.

is that the Engstrum poking it's head up a few buildings to the left of the central library, (or is that the top of the tower of the normal school)?

this photo nicely shows that until the construction of the miserable 4th street viaduct, 4th did not extend heading west further than hope street, due to the steep terrain.

This forgotten corner of old LA was eventually obliterated by the Harbor Freeway and the 4th Street viaduct.

Los Angeles Past Dec 25, 2010 7:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LASpaceCadet (Post 5104885)
OK, let me start by saying that this picture has vexed my OCD addled brain for over a year:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5246/...6a8c0a9313.jpg
Source: http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../AAA-EN-106-31

It is captioned, "View looking north on Boylston between First and Temple, Los Angeles, 1937" and includes a Hotel Phiben. However, none of the pieces seemed to fit. I finally had a breakthrough when my google search turned up a "Hotel Philbin" at 1015 W 4th Street that was torn down in 1958 for a freeway.

I then rediscovered this pic from an old post that confirmed that the mislabeled pic is actually a view looking west from 4th & Hope on Bunker Hill.



This forgotten corner of old LA was eventually obliterated by the Harbor Freeway and the 4th Street viaduct.

:previous:
Great sleuthing! This is exactly the kind of thing that makes this thread so addictive!

-Scott

Los Angeles Past Dec 25, 2010 8:01 AM

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/v...viewpmc_lg.jpg
Postmarked December 10, 1899...

Merry Christmas!

-Scott

gsjansen Dec 25, 2010 2:45 PM

Merry Chistmas
 

malumot Dec 25, 2010 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5103452)
Madame Whatever lived in house #3


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I don't think I had ever heard of Helena Modjeska--and frankly still wouldn't be much interested in her unnoirish self if not for her real estate on an island I'd also never heard of--before a friend sent me this L.A. Times article of December 5:

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/dec...-then-20101205


Modjeska was a noted Shakesperean actress of the time....and in the days before movies, TV, Grand Theft Auto - San Andreas and the Wii, being a famous stage actress was about as famous as one could be. She also built a home in the Santa Ana Mountains, now a State Historical Park, and the nearby canyon is now also named for her

I did happen to catch this wonderful tidbit from the LA Times article ---

....Pretty though they might be, the houses lacked indoor plumbing and electricity. The sewage drained directly into the bay, and swimmers had to keep a sharp eye out for any "foreign objects" that floated by....

A comment so typical of the juvenile, snarky, hipster-doofuses at The Times. Readers here are knowledgeable enough to know that lack of indoor plumbing - and all that goes with it - was often par for the course in 1900. But not for the sheltered brats who man the keyboards at the Old Gray Lady of Spring Street, who think that's just so funny, in their adolescent way.

I SO hate that fish wrap. :hell: Editorial concluded.

Beaudry Dec 26, 2010 9:04 PM

Shooting Shockproof
 
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Looking up 2nd from Olive toward Grand -- The Dome, of course, looming o'er.

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Douglas Sirk & Co shooting "Shockproof," 1949. From the Times' "Daily Mirror" LA history blog -- http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thed...-photo-16.html

GaylordWilshire Dec 26, 2010 11:56 PM

This Was Pacific Electric
 
A few evocative screen captures from the excellent This Was Pacific Electric:


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Pacific Electric Building, 2002

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A detail

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Red Car arriving at the Catalina ferry

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Arroyo Seco/Pasadena/Arroyo Seco Freeway

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Arroyo Seco/Pasadena/Arroyo Seco Freeway

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Hollywood Freeway

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Ramona Parkway

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Remnants: A Red Car at the great Orange Empire Railway Museum in Perris

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In West L.A., foamer extraordinaire Ralph Cantos, featured in the DVD and extras. He's a man who probably
knows more about L.A. rail archeology than anyone. He's way ahead of all of us here.

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A few more of the PE remnants Ralph visits:
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Trolley-wire support bolt, downtown

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Buses now use this old PE shelter in Pasadena

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Cantos refers to the freeway that supplanted the PE line to Glendale over these abandoned
trestles as the "Golden Mistake Freeway," such is his fervor for old L.A. rails.


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All photos from This Was Pacific Electric, written and directed by Thom Eberhardt. Sky City Productions, Inc.: www.skycityproductions.com

ethereal_reality Dec 27, 2010 1:49 AM

GaylordWilshire, your first photo of the Pacific Electric Building reminded me of something I have been meaning to post.

Until a week ago, I had no idea the Jonathan Club was originally located on the top three floors of the Pacific Electric Building.


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Below: Here is a small photograph of the elaborate Jonathan Club ballroom on the top floor of the Pacific Electric Building.

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Below: Today, one can still see the structural steel that was once hidden beneath the elaborate arches.

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ethereal_reality Dec 27, 2010 1:57 AM

Here is an original Jonathan Club lighting fixture on the top floor of the Pacific Electric Building.


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victoriabernal on flickr


I hope you make it to New Orleans GaylordWilshire!

GaylordWilshire Dec 27, 2010 2:13 AM

Beware of the Red Cars
 
A couple more shots from the PE building:


http://lh4.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TR...43015%20PM.jpg www.skycityproductions.com

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TR...43044%20PM.jpg www.skycityproductions.com


Thanks, ethereal-- looks like N.O. will have to wait until the New Year. NYC is a mess right now!

ethereal_reality Dec 27, 2010 2:18 AM

A view of Silver Lake, looking north on Micheltorena Street from Sunset Blvd.



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Below: Micheltorena Hill in Silver Lake.


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GaylordWilshire Dec 27, 2010 3:14 PM

:previous:


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ethereal-- your shots remind me of the Canfield-Moreno house, at the top of Micheltorena Street in those pictures. It has an interesting history, in addition to being L.A. HCM #391 and where Antonio Moreno and his wife Daisy Canfield moved after selling their Sycamore Avenue house to the Masquers. You can Google it--lots of info--and it's been used in various movies and tv shows. (I went through it once with a NY friend who knew a film person. At any moment I expected to hear a voice call out, "You there! Why are you so late? Why have you kept me waiting so long?" The atmospherics, architecture, and gardens made it seem as though it could easily have been used to film Sunset Boulevard.) I remember the huge basement kitchen as being original, as the rest of the house seemed to be. Anyway, what I didn't know was that, according to http://www.silverlake.org/Architectu...chitecture.htm, Moreno developed the area.


A few more shots:

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At the top of the hill above is the Canfield-Moreno house below:

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Whoever said Chester Place shunned Hollywood? Estelle, Antonio, Ed, and Daisy: the Dohenys
and the Morenos.

ethereal_reality Dec 27, 2010 9:36 PM

If I remember correctly, the Canfield-Moreno Estate has also been used as a recording studio.

It also goes by the name Paramour Mansion or The Crestmount.






Below: Getting ready to film in one of the rooms in the Canfield-Moreno Estate.


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Brad Coy

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