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odinthor May 11, 2017 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7802631)
:previous:

Yes, extraordinary find ScottyB. How amazing to see the Rust home not draped in plants.

Is that the beginning of the rose bush near the left door? And odinthor, what is that sapling with the enormous leaves?


ETA, No roses e_r, but this splendid cedar tree may date from Rust's time. It would have been in his side yard:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qe...Q=w658-h581-no
gsv

Yes, that's one very interesting-looking young tree there. It looks like those big leaves are very very compound leaves (think Jacaranda leaves on steroids). I'm stumped as to identity--it's perhaps some rare tropical tree they were trying out.

I think that is probably the beginning of the rose plant's career near the left door. Likely in due course lots of people took cuttings from the plant, so I'd be a little surprised if diligent search of the area for some miles around didn't yield a "descendant" (not exactly a descendant, but rather a piece of the original).

That cedar in the pic--usually we see Cedrus deodara around, or sometimes the Cedar of Lebanon (Cedrus libani); but that looks to me more like Cedrus atlantica (the Atlas Cedar), just the unusual sort of thing a horticulturist/nurseryman might indeed plant to try out. And those two California Fan Palms are quite impressively tall for that species.

tovangar2 May 11, 2017 11:39 PM

HN Rust
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 7802784)
And those two California Fan Palms are quite impressively tall for that species.

The whole block is lined with them (although I notice the one has come a cropper and a few are missing). Some of the empty spots have been infilled with ginkgos. Maybe the palms are also a remnant of the Rusts, they certainly look old enough:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Px...A=w621-h625-no
gsv

ethereal_reality May 12, 2017 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7801839)
H. N. Rust residence:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...5.png~original
Seaver Center

Thank you for this Flyingwedge.

The writing indicates one bush is 'Rose of Ophir' and the other is a 'Lady Banksia' (R. banksiae)

Any interesting tidbits about the 'Lady Banksia' odinthor?
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Before I move on from the subject of roses.

Here is a beautiful photograph of a two-story clapboard house with a wide porch covered in climbing roses owned by General George Stoneman
on his Los Robles estate in San Gabriel (now San Marino, California). General Stoneman stands to the left, and two women stand on the porch,
while four children sit on the steps. [c.1880]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/raUnGg.jpg


reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/4xOEy4.jpg


"This is the residence of the celebrated cavalry leader of the last war. Gen. Stoneman
stands in front of the house having laid aside the sword for the hoe. His wife stands
the farthest one inside. His place here is valued at not less than $100,000.00.
He has been asking 125 thousand for it. This rosebush is a fair representation
of how the rose flourishes in this country. This is a pure white running rose
called Lamarque and all the season through which is all the year it is much
like this. makes a profusion of blossoms. Down near them the horse stand is
the rose bush that is over 16 inches in diameter at the base a wonderful
thing."
- Another line written at the bottom is illegible.



from the Huntington Archives
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/14319/rec/2

ethereal_reality May 12, 2017 12:54 AM

Fantastic discovery ScottyB!

What in Holy Moses is this plant? (circled below)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/Vz9VyH.jpg
detail

Is someone asleep on the rocker?
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tovangar2 May 12, 2017 1:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7802885)

What in holy moses is this plant?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 7802784)
Yes, that's one very interesting-looking young tree there. It looks like those big leaves are very very compound leaves (think Jacaranda leaves on steroids). I'm stumped as to identity--it's perhaps some rare tropical tree they were trying out.

That's me e_r, I'm asleep in the rocker.



ETA, How about a Royal Empress tree (Paulownia tomentosa) odinthor? Is that a possibility?

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/KF...Q=w440-h586-no
onehousemanyplants

"On young growth, the leaves may be in whorls of three and be much bigger than the leaves on more mature growth. The leaves can be mistaken for those of the catalpa." -wiki

It looks like something Rust might have liked:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ce...A=w477-h481-no
etsy

ethereal_reality May 12, 2017 1:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7802631)
No roses e_r, but this splendid cedar tree may date from Rust's time. It would have been in his side yard:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qe...Q=w658-h581-no
gsv

That's fine t2. This is good enough!




Roses co-inhabiting with evergreens.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/7yp7eY.jpg
ebay / postmarked 1920





Huge rose bush climbing tree.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/RDS1rs.jpgebay

"Los Angeles 1880s, Waite photographer Boudoir"

"Waite" might be Alvin H. Waite.

-not sure why the description includes "Boudoir"


http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-SOUTHER...HJ____________


update:

I just realized the seller included the reverse.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/ERFQH6.jpg

Nope, not Alvin.


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CityBoyDoug May 12, 2017 2:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7802631)
:previous:

Yes, extraordinary find ScottyB. How amazing to see the Rust home not draped in plants.

Is that the beginning of the rose bush near the left door? And odinthor, what is that sapling with the enormous leaves?


ETA, No roses e_r, but this splendid cedar tree may date from Rust's time. It would have been in his side yard:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qe...Q=w658-h581-no
gsv

Yes that looks like what we called a Deodar. We had one in our front yard in Alhambra in the 1950-60s....and its still there [planted in the late 1920s]. I must have raked the fallen needles hundreds of times. Hardly anything will grow under its branches or near the trunk. I don't mean to be harsh but I really don't think its an attractive tree...too ragged, thin, and untidy looking.

Its the National Tree of Pakistan and its also very common in India. Insects and mold are repelled by its fragrant inner wood. Forests of this tree are considered 'sacred' places.

ethereal_reality May 12, 2017 3:55 AM

from roses to cheesecake.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/2jgp8s.jpg

Doyle G. Russell____________1969 W. 48th Street_____________Phone AX l - 1042_________Los Angeles 62 California



Doyle's photography studio was located in the bungalow shown below.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/QU8AFe.jpg
gsv


detail / #1969
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/g088pH.jpg



Buy the calendar here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-195...wAAOSwdjNZA3Wu

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odinthor May 12, 2017 4:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7802892)
That's me e_r, I'm asleep in the rocker.



ETA, How about a Royal Empress tree (Paulownia tomentosa) odinthor? Is that a possibility?

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/KF...Q=w440-h586-no
onehousemanyplants

"On young growth, the leaves may be in whorls of three and be much bigger than the leaves on more mature growth. The leaves can be mistaken for those of the catalpa." -wiki

It looks like something Rust might have liked:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ce...A=w477-h481-no
etsy

That must be me asleep in the rocker--Paulownia is a great suggestion (I'm not too familiar with them), and a closer look makes me take back my compound leaves thought!

Actually, I'm usually considered off my rocker, so that's probably not me . . .

tovangar2 May 12, 2017 4:20 AM

Paulownia tomentosa
 
:previous:

"The generic name Paulownia honors Anna Pavlovna of Russia.[4] The specific epithet tomentosa is a Latin word meaning ‘covered in hairs’." -wiki

Wow, that brings an unfortunate visual to mind :-(

JeffDiego May 12, 2017 6:31 AM

Venice Remodels
 
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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7801731)



More Venice Part III




Aztec Apartments, 511 Ocean front Walk ~1929 (per source)
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...w.jpg~originalhttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20108




Beach Apartments, 39 Sunset Ave, ~1929 (per source)
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...v.jpg~originalhttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20111







Dorothy Apartments, 615 Ocean Front Walk ~1929
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...o.jpg~original
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20117







The Drexel Apartments, 1922 Trolleyway (now Pacific Ave.)
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...w.jpg~original
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20120




http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...m.jpg~original




http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...0.jpg~original




The former Drexel, 1922 Pacific Ave., circa 2011
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...r.jpg~originalGoogleSVU






Montezuma Apartments. 401 Ocean Front Walk
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...i.jpg~originalhttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20129








Rohampton Apartments, 40 Westminster Ave
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...x.jpg~originalhttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20132



40 Westminster Ave, circa 2014
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...o.jpg~originalGSV







Oh my Gawd! These 1960's/70's "remodels" are so hideous they are truly unspeakable. Whoever did them should be tarred and feathered.
Same goes for the remodels of old bldgs. shown by Hoss.

CityBoyDoug May 12, 2017 6:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7802892)

It looks like something Rust might have liked:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ce...A=w477-h481-no
etsy

Not a good idea to park your car under this tree when its in bloom. Those lovely flowers are like sticky wet candy.

BillinGlendaleCA May 12, 2017 12:02 PM

There's a Fog upon LA...
 
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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7416865)



http://www.udiscovermusic.com/wp-con...lueJayWay.jpeghttp://www.udiscovermusic.com/wp-con...lueJayWay.jpeg



A block away, at 1506 Blue Jay Way, June 1962, a George Barris photoshoot. 1506 BJW was the then residence of Tim Leimert, son of Leimert Park founder/developer, Walter Leimert. Interesting interview of Tim Leimert that touches upon Leimert park, Doheny, Charles Manson and this photo shoot. >> http://www.leimertparkmovie.com/medi...imLeimert.html


Curious about the storage tank, e.g., its contents, construction date and who maintains it.

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...4.png~originalBing



Not sure about the water tank, but the house right above it and to the right was the house where George Harrison wrote 'Blue Jay Way'.

Martin Pal May 12, 2017 5:06 PM

^^^
Is that the street Rock Hudson lived on, too? I know it was one of those "Birdland" streets up there,
like Sky Lark Lane, Warbler Way, Oriole Lane...one of those...I believe Madonna lived up there once, too.

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7801347)

More Venice
[...]
1914 - Windward Avenue, Hotel Omar. 1607 Trolleyway (now Pacific Ave.)
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...b.jpg~original
_________________________________________________________________


Recently I happened upon an episode of ADAM-12 that took place here. A man with a business in the building on the right was having some gang trouble I believe...

Boy, Reed and Malloy never had one particular beat, did they? You could find them all over the Southland. Even in the same episode.

Martin Pal May 12, 2017 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7802470)
I've got another of those mystery Julius Shulman locations for you today. This is "Job 4055: Allyn E. Morris, Bernbaum Apartments, 1966".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

The apartments come with a reasonable view. The only clue is the street numbers (1611 and 1613). Did everyone spot the fluffy animal on the balcony?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7802518)
Strong suspicion it is 1613 Silverwood Terrace. Open spaces are now enclosed but the outline is still there.

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...b.jpg~originalGoogleSVU
_________________________________________________________________


How did you find that so fast BRR?

Love the Mustang in the photo, wonder what color it was? Also, the very side view in the second photo, of the buildings in the distance, make it seem kind of dangerous...in an exciting way?

In the 1966 photo, to me the planters almost make the building, but nowadays you rarely see anything like that and I have to assume it's because everyone is concerned about earthquakes and possible falling objects. I had to take down a multi-piece display on my balcony/walkway area several years ago when the landlord informed me that unless every single piece was attached to the grill work in some way so that it was immovable, it was a danger to the tenants and against the law. In any case, I notice that a lot when you look at vintage photos and modern ones.

I don't think I would've attached a pussycat to anything, in any event!

ethereal_reality May 12, 2017 5:52 PM

I found this in one of my old files the other day. I never posted it because I wasn't sure of the name on the station.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/FWT8t0.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...39b2200cc0.jpg

Well, after typing in numerous names I finally found the correct one.

The name on the sign is apparently La Bolsa....and I believe it was located somewhere near Huntington Beach.

Is anyone here on NLA familiar with La Bolsa? (I've been searching for an old map to no avail)

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ethereal_reality May 12, 2017 6:06 PM

Here's another etsy find.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/pzhiOV.jpg
https://www.etsy.com/listing/2162070...-50s-conoco-in

Eugene H. Oltman______Distributor Petrolium Products_____Conoco______Long Beach CA

and today
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/4AORlW.jpg

Northeast corner of Caspan Ave. and 16th St., Long Beach CA




a closer look at the street sign
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/kAmEg0.jpg
detail

tovangar2 May 12, 2017 6:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7803641)
The name on the sign is apparently La Bolsa....and I believe it was located somewhere near Huntington Beach.

Is anyone here on NLA familiar with La Bolsa? (I've been searching for an old map to no avail)

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La Bolsa ("the bag") is still there:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jW...=w1363-h636-no
rome2rio

Rancho Los Bolsas history


It appears to just be an intersection now in Huntington Beach. There's no signage at the site:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/xp...w=w759-h571-no
google maps

MichaelRyerson May 12, 2017 6:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7803641)
I found this in one of my old files the other day. I never posted it because I wasn't sure of the name on the station.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/FWT8t0.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...39b2200cc0.jpg

Well, after typing in numerous names I finally found the correct one.

The name on the sign is apparently La Bolsa....and I believe it was located somewhere near Huntington Beach.

Is anyone here on NLA familiar with La Bolsa? (I've been searching for an old map to no avail)

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This line ran from Huntington Beach inland 2.84 miles to Wiebling; passenger service was provided to the Holly Sugar Plant at La Bolsa, about 1.7 miles. The line was single track and connected with the Newport-Balboa Line at Huntington Beach. This was an SP line which PE electrified in 1911. The purpose was to transport workers between Huntington Beach and large sugar refineries at La Bolsa. It also handled much freight in early years. PE abandoned passenger service on this line on November 9, 1928. Unique center-entrance car 225 was assigned to this line for many years. Other cars assigned to this line are unknown; probably the small 100's were represented in the early days, and a conventional 200 after 225 was retired in 1927. The single car required by this line was stored overnight at the Huntington Beach Station. Agricultural products were the big item on this line. The Holly Sugar plant sent out hundreds of cars over PE rails early in the century. The line was still a fairly important freight producer in the 1950s.

http://www.erha.org/peslab.htm

HossC May 12, 2017 6:36 PM

Re: La Bolsa

I found Bolsa on this 1925 PE map, with Bolsa Chica on the coast.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...LALaBolsa1.jpg
Detail of image from www.huffingtonpost.com


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