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I found a couple of videos about the mall. The first, Good Bye Hawthorne Plaza, starts with vintage photographs, some showing the old 'island' road layout (below). These are followed by a montage of shots of the mall in various states of disrepair - I think the editor got a little carried away with video effects in the middle. Skip on to the six-minute mark and there's a good summary of the mall's history at the end. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ornePlaza1.jpg Jerry Miles/YouTube From the text at the end of the video: "The mall had a very short lifespan, making it a colossal failure in a commercial sense. In addition, it was a colossal failure in a redevelopment sense. It probably left Hawthorne Boulevard commercial strip worse off than it found it. Although it faces the street, its monolithic exterior is uninviting to pedestrians and inappropiate in a 'downtown' setting." Some of the "monolithic exterior" along Hawthorne Boulevard. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ornePlaza2.jpg GSV For contrast, here's the other side of the street from the same spot. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ornePlaza3.jpg GSV The second video I found is called Hawthorne Plaza - Dead Mall | ep. 16 | Tom Explores Los Angeles. It combines vintage footage of the mall when it was open with some urban exploration showing how the mall looks today. Although the mall closed over 15 years ago, it still gets used for filming from time to time, and has appeared in movies such as Minority Report (2002), The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift (2006), and Gone Girl (2014). The makers of the 2006 movie The Green Hornet even converted the top of the parking structure into a quarter-mile section of freeway (below). http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ornePlaza4.jpg www.seeing-stars.com The mall's future seems uncertain at the moment. I was amused to see one proposal where the redevelopment includes towers that pay tribute to the island road layout. The circular tower they've used looks suspiciously like part of the Westin Bonaventure ;). http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ornePlaza5.jpg www.placehood.org |
:previous: That last image is pretty funny. Thanks for your research Hoss.
I really like this pre-mall view. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/911/PWQVV6.jpg originally posted by HossC. below: Hawthorne Plaza Mall today. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/913/f148GI.jpg http://mlkshk.com/p/Y9JA http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...911/5Fs5mS.jpg wiki Yes, it's big!! http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/ByNrb0.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/Q86CFV.jpg http://www.seeing-stars.com/Location...olf/Mall.shtml The area between the mall and the parking garage. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/3SJdeh.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPIhxXYfScw Eerie. |
I realize HossC already posted a comparison pic. / but I couldn't resist.
Hawthorne Plaza (east side of Hawthorne Blvd.) This actual makes the Beverly Center look user friendly. ;) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/0Fak33.jpg ...and directly across the street. (west side of Hawthorne Blvd.) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...905/1eoG6D.jpg GSV I'm intrigued by this building. (I'm pretty sure the intricate architectural flourishes were added later) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...633/mYkWyD.jpg GSV It seems to have been inspired by Islamic architecture. (especially this entrance) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/mztOl0.jpg detail/gsv ____________ Further down Hawthorne Blvd. at 129th Street there is a fairly interesting art deco building. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/TrhskS.jpg GSV I especially like the three lines and three circles. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...538/NcbRbv.jpg The corner as seen from 129th Street. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/cp7Y6h.png GSV corner detail http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/M0GQNu.jpg GSV Of course the modern signage f*cks it all up. __ |
I posted this back in January.
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I recently came across this side view. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/e5LeMU.jpg eBay Does anyone have an idea what hotel is advertising $1.00 rooms? (rooftop sign at far right) A dollar is awfully cheap....maybe it's $10.00 rooms....or maybe it's advertising hot baths for a $1.00 __ |
"San Pedro (Los Angeles Calif.) 1910."
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/wuS4Rj.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...540/RHUlrl.jpg http://hdl.huntington.org/ :previous: The Edison Electric Co. (no street address given) Identified as San Pedro. I really like the emblem of a flaming torch. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/bU6KrL.jpg detail It looks like there's a thin rope hanging around it. (not to mention that obnoxious red circle ;)) __ |
The Arcady is not new to NLA, but the message on the back of this 1947 postcard made me laugh. Poor Bob and Bill really didn't enjoy their stay ;).
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z.../LAArcady1.jpg http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z.../LAArcady2.jpg eBay |
:previous: "sleep, drink and women" lol
"Three operators standing outside the Los Angeles #2 substation, a street scene with residential buildings in the background." -no date. no street address. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/Jl9CUn.jpg http://hdl.huntington.org/ I'm not sure where the Edison #2 was located, but at the end of the alley...the building appears to be rounded. Could this be the old Cyclorama?? http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/iB0p6Z.jpg detail for comparison http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...633/aNwKyN.jpg http://www.panoramaonview.org/panora...geofparis.html souvenir cover with front view. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...913/9AW7C7.jpg http://www.panoramaonview.org/panora...geofparis.html __ edit. Was the #2 substation located behind the Edison General Offices on Fourth Street? Would this location place it close enough to have an alley view of the cyclorama? I know we've seen a Sanborn map of this area on NLA, but I haven't been able to find it yet. __ |
A friend sent me this clipping fragment:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-X...23643%2BPM.jpg ??? Has anyone else ever heard of the Edison/Metropolitan Water Board/Million Dollar Theater building being called "The Stability Building"? |
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http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...nSanPedro1.jpg Huntington Digital Library "Group Portraits - San Pedro Local Office employees and construction crew." 5/12/1913 http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...nSanPedro2.jpg Huntington Digital Library The 1908 San Pedro CD lists the Edison Electric Co at 4th and Beacon. That would tie-in with the 401 address visible on my first picture above. The image below is titled "View of Beacon Street looking south from Fifth Street in San Pedro, ca.1903". I think it shows the Edison building on the far right. There's no point doing a "now" picture as 4th and Beacon no longer intersect. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...nSanPedro3.jpg USC Digital Library |
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Werdin Place: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-g...14344%2BPM.jpg google maps AKA "Indian Alley" |
stately homes 'mystery'
Here's the vague description at the Huntington Archive: "Lighting post on Wilshire, [showing large homes in the background]" 1/7/1914 http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/gMuZdE.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/q4fLdR.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/CDBZXt.jpg http://hdl.huntington.org/ detail http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/NniqSo.jpg Does anyone (GaylordWilshire perhaps) recognize these impressive homes? __ Thanks for the additional photographs of the San Pedro Edison Co. HossC. T2, like you, I've never heard the Edison Building called the Stability Building, and I didn't realize MichaelRyerson had already spotted the alley view of the cyclorama. I thought I had really discovered something. :( oh well.... |
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I believe those are the original Windsor Square light standards. That intersection would be Windsor and Wilshire (I think). |
:previous: Thanks sopas, that's a start....I hope the houses are still there. -fingers crossed. :)
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http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...2.jpg~original 1906 Sanborn @ LAPL And, yes, that's the old Panorama Building, which originally housed a painting of the Battle of Paris from the Franco-Prussian War (that's a great old souvenir cover, er!). I don't have permission to show the image, but in the papers of Inglewood founder Daniel Freeman at LMU is a document signed by LA County Sheriff Martin Aguirre dated August 16, 1889, indicating that Daniel Freeman had bought that painting at auction for $100. |
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I think these are the same houses today. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...BlvdHouse1.jpg GSV http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...BlvdHouse2.jpg GSV |
:previous: They're both still standing. That's fantastic news HossC.
I see the second one is for sale (or was for sale). Maybe there are interior photos on one of the real estate sites. __ I appreciate you posting the Sanborn map FlyingWedge. I wonder what Mr. Freeman ended up doing with such a L A R G E painting? Maybe he wallpapered his entire house with it. ;) |
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LAT on the very noiry history of Indian Alley/Werdin Place Werdin and Winston looking south. John Parkinson's 1909 Canadian Building on the right (site of our first Federal Building/P.O. as Flyingwedge explained). 118 Winston (1887) on the left: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8...15423%2BPM.jpg gsv Werdin Pl looking north towards E 4th St. From left, The Hellman Building, the 1897 Van Nuys/Barclay Hotel, The San Fernando Building (1907) and the Jeffries (1927). Substation #2 was on the east side of this section of Werdin. Looks like an expansion of the Edison Building took it out: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3...23427%2BPM.jpg gsv I don't know why Werdin is gated (?) The Edison Building is still there: Quote:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h...32217%2BPM.jpg gsv A word on the Venice Hotel. It still houses LA's oldest bathhouse, since 1905 (or there abouts): "Turkish & Electric Baths (now KLYT) – 132 E. 4th Street LA, CA 90013 If it’s more dirt that you’re looking for, walk down to LA’s oldest bathhouse that still operates today and has hosted many a closeted movie star. Most men only bathed once a month at the turn of the century. LA never funded public bathhouses, so the private sector swung into action. You can still see the broken neon sign proclaiming BATHS high above the doorway." - outtraveler Hotel (west entrance) and Baths (east door) and some once-was neon: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V...34112%2BPM.jpg gsv |
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