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GaylordWilshire Feb 10, 2017 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7707478)
:previous: Oh man, that list is great! Thanks for the heads-up Mstimc.



more ephemera....

"Los Angeles Jewish Sanatorium 1936 Ticket"
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/v7ejwg.jpg
ebay

Does anyone know where this sanatorium/expatient home was located?
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http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics27/00048338.jpgLAPL



It looks like the LA Sanatorium was in Duarte--what began as the Kaspare Cohn hospital on Carroll Avenue had to move there after the city decreed that all TB facilities had to leave the city. It evolved into the City of Hope hospital.


http://www.jmaw.org/wp-content/uploa...lesCA-1903.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9h...A=w716-h577-no


Not sure when the vintage image was taken on Carroll Street (I think we might have seen this image before, but couldn't find it); the 1911 CD lists the Kaspare Cohn hospital at 3742 Stephenson Avenue--didn't dig to find this (seems Stephenson is now Whittier Blvd)...


More here: http://www.jmaw.org/the-city-of-hope...ociation-1913/

HossC Feb 10, 2017 3:21 PM

Regarding the Westinghouse Building/Little Tokyo Lofts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7707283)

So Hoss, do you mind digging up some vintage aerials to see if the current light-well is visible.

I thought that the first floor may have been enclosed with the light well above it, but the early views don't even show a light well. The roof was solid up until at least 1994. Below is the 1980 view because it's clearer.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eBuilding6.jpg
Historic Aerials

The 2003 image makes it look like there's a pool on the roof, but it's probably just a blue tarpaulin covering the work below.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eBuilding7.jpg
Historic Aerials

A year later, the present light well is visible.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eBuilding8.jpg
Historic Aerials

Is it just me, or have the structural columns been very poorly integrated into the design of the lofts? I'm quite happy to see the structure of the building and hints at its heritage, but the columns just seem to be in the way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7707283)


GaylordWilshire Feb 10, 2017 3:35 PM

:previous:


A little BP info regarding the new opening in the Westinghouse Building...


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/YF...A=w732-h133-no


from

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/PK...A=w623-h810-no

HossC Feb 10, 2017 5:03 PM

:previous:

That explains things, GW.

Before we leave the 400 block of S San Pedro Street, have we ever discussed the Westinghouse Building's next door neighbor?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
GSV

It's also a very attractive building. The doors are numbered 434 and 438, although it says 442 with an arrow pointing right at the far right side. There's no need for a light well in this building because it's "L"-shaped.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Google Maps

This appears to be the 1926 building permit. It's for a six-story stores/factory building at 442 S San Pedro Street. The permit for the foundations was issued about a month before.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
Online Building Records

434 S San Pedro Street has been home to various public services over the years. Here's a selection:

1934 County Welfare Department
1936 Division of Indigent Relief
1942 Department of Public Assistance
1956 County of Los Angeles Air Pollution Control

I found Elias Katz Shoe Factories at 442 S San Pedro Street between 1928 and 1932, but not a lot else.

Today, the building is home to the Downtown Women's Center. There's a 2010 article about the opening of the facility at ladowntownnews.com. At one point the article describes the building as a "33-year-old industrial structure [which] has been converted into a facility with 71 permanent supportive housing units and several offices and rooms to support the center’s suite of social services." I'm not sure where the "33-year-old" age comes from. The article also says this:
The new Downtown Women’s Center is in a former shoe factory once known as the Renaissance Building. The exterior of the six-story, Gothic Revival edifice has been restored to its original standards.

Originally designed by William Douglas Lee, the building was abandoned before the city purchased it, then sold it to the DWC for $1.
At least we now know that it is/was the Renaissance Building.

Earl Boebert Feb 10, 2017 5:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7707501)
Early Cellphone?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/O0x2R0.jpg
www.hollywood-kodacrome.skyrocket.com

Noel Neill as TV's Lois Lane in the 'Adventures of Superman' series. [1952-1958]

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Standard issue WWII SCR-536 "handie talkie." Looks like she's calling in an air strike :-)

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality Feb 10, 2017 7:06 PM

Earl, here's an even earlier use of a mobile 'phone'.

Believe it or not, there was a silent film titled "Eve's Wireless". [c.1922]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/veagXN.jpg
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/histor...uite-21291812/




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/bLW4Yh.jpg





http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/rsVtCJ.png

"Could it be an early demonstration of some futuristic technology? I hate to be the Internet’s wet blanket, but no. It’s not a mobile phone."

"Rather than an early mobile phone, think of the box they’re holding as an early Walkman; because the two women on the street don’t have a telephone, but rather a crystal radio. The confusion comes from the fact that the term “wireless telephone” was widely used in 1922 for what we simply call “radio” today."

Matt Novak at Smithsonian

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ethereal_reality Feb 10, 2017 7:21 PM

re: Westinghouse Building.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7707772)
I thought that the first floor may have been enclosed with the light well above it, but the early views don't even show a light well.

The roof was solid up until at least 1994.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eBuilding6.jpg
Historic Aerials

:previous: Ah, so my hunch was correct!

http://imageshack.com/a/img922/9070/sfsDFp.gif

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ethereal_reality Feb 10, 2017 7:58 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/v7ejwg.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 7707643)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/P1mYrH.jpg
lapl

It looks like the LA Sanatorium was in Duarte--what began as the Kaspare Cohn hospital on Carroll Avenue had to move there after the city decreed
that all TB facilities had to leave the city. It evolved into the City of Hope hospital.

:previous:


GW, by coincidence I came across this undated [1950s?] aerial a couple days ago on ebay.

The seller thought it was City of Home.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/vCgKzg.png
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/expiZf.jpg
ebay



the reverse...where "hope" looked like "home" to the seller
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/NXNfpi.jpg
ebay



The hospital has grown leaps and bounds, but some of the buildings/cottages that appear in the black & white aerial have survived.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/jKeiQo.png
http://www.jmaw.org/the-city-of-hope...ociation-1913/
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/expiZf.jpg
for easy comparison.
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HossC Feb 10, 2017 8:10 PM

It's a fairly short Julius Shulman post today. I've picked three images rom "Job 3664: Edward Durell Stone, California Institute of Technology, A. O. Beckman Auditorium (Pasadena, Calif.), 1964".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

I really like the way pillars are positioned at the intersections of the curved lines on the ground, and spread at the roof.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

The first two images don't give a great idea of scale, so I was surprised at the size of the interior.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

I'm not going to post a "now" picture because it hasn't changed much. The building can still be found at 1200 E California Boulevard. You can find more information at www.caltech.edu.

ethereal_reality Feb 10, 2017 8:53 PM

re: A Return To Monkey Island
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7707601)
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I went :banana: bananas:dancing::awesome: when I found these things today!

The Monkey Island brochure and video were great Martin_Pal!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/Fe8E5v.jpg

This gave me a chuckle.
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ScottyB Feb 10, 2017 9:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC;7708228
[IMG
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz19/HossC_2010/Noirish%20LA3/LAShulmanBeckmanAuditorium2.jpg~original[/IMG]

The first two images don't give a great idea of scale, so I was surprised at the size of the interior.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

I'm not going to post a "now" picture because it hasn't changed much. The building can still be found at 1200 E California Boulevard. You can find more information at www.caltech.edu.


Hoss, you are correct, the building hasn't changed at all. It's a beautiful building, I think, but very limited as a performance space.....it's really an overgrown lecture hall, no real backstage to speak of, no proscenium, pit or other infrascructure to produce a show or concert......though I have performed/attended many a concert there nevertheless. One time they actually hired a company to provide electronic simulated resonance, as the hall itself is as dry as a bone.

ethereal_reality Feb 10, 2017 11:41 PM

Hoss, here's the Beckman Auditorium from the air, Fall 1963.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/WTQmQt.jpg
1963 http://caltech.discoverygarden.ca/is...ect/ct1%3A2579

ethereal_reality Feb 11, 2017 1:12 AM

"Model Jackee Waldron / 1950 Transportation Fair / Los Angeles Calif."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/lPCAZl.jpg
ebay

So where was this transportation fair held?

here's an enlargement of the map.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/hrI8Lw.jpg
detail

:previous: It looks huge! (I'm guessing it never happened)

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A bit more on Jackee Waldron...

She played one of the slave girls in "Tarzan And The Slave Girl" [c.1950]

"This being an RKO release during the Howard Hughes years, it's a fair guess that the sexed-up (for 1950) slave girl angle reflects the girl-chasing mogul's personal taste. Of the captive women with non-speaking roles (Shirley Ballard, Rosemary Bertrand, Gwen Caldwell, Martha Clemons, Mona Knox, Josephine Parra and Jackee Waldron*) only a couple had substantial careers, and just one (Ballard) showed up in a string of other RKO movies."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/QUPRFO.jpg
http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/s4271tarz.html

So which one is she? (more than a few of them look alike)
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*Jackee appeared in only one other movie, "Annie Get Your Gun" [also 1950] -uncredited

ScottyB Feb 11, 2017 2:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7708557)
"Model Jackee Waldron / 1950 Transportation Fair / Los Angeles Calif."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/lPCAZl.jpg
ebay


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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/QUPRFO.jpg
http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/s4271tarz.html

So which one is she? (more than a few of them look alike)
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I'm going with bottom right- based on the face shape and eyebrows, though the knees are inconclusive. ;)

John Maddox Roberts Feb 11, 2017 3:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottyB (Post 7708614)
I'm going with bottom right- based on the face shape and eyebrows, though the knees are inconclusive. ;)

Full noirish props for Lex Barker, onetime boytoy of Lana Turner, and who may have molested her daughter, who in turn stabbed Johnny Stompanato. Can't hardly get more noirish than that.

BDiH Feb 11, 2017 4:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7706878)
Whilst looking around S San Pedro Street to work out which building e_r's 1970s pictures were taken from, I found this building at 420 San Pedro Street.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
GSV

Now known as Little Tokyo Lofts, I can't find any previous mentions (I searched for the old and new names, and the address). In its early days it was the Westinghouse Building. The view below is from 1933.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

In the 1940s and 1950s this building was the western home of the Globe Ticket Company, the largest printing company in the world, with headquarters in Philadelphia.

ethereal_reality Feb 11, 2017 5:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottyB (Post 7708614)
I'm going with bottom right- based on the face shape and eyebrows, though the knees are inconclusive. ;)

You might be right ScottyB....but I couldn't say for sure.



Here's another photograph of the slave girls. (but two or three of them are missing)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/wLfGMv.jpg
Tarzan and the Slave Girl [1950]

I thought it might be clear enough to see the beauty mark under her left eye.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/1bR9RD.jpg
detail

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ethereal_reality Feb 11, 2017 5:23 AM

Griffith Park snapshot May 9th (1930s or 40s)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/8tPpY2.jpg
ebay

I think Mike might be playing pocket pool. ;)

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CityBoyDoug Feb 11, 2017 5:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7708731)
Griffith Park snapshot May 9th (1930s or 40s)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/8tPpY2.jpg
ebay

I think Mike might be playing pocket pool. ;)

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...or might need a quick trip to the Men's Room.

HossC Feb 11, 2017 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7708557)

"Model Jackee Waldron / 1950 Transportation Fair / Los Angeles Calif."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/lPCAZl.jpg
ebay

So where was this transportation fair held?

:previous: It looks huge! (I'm guessing it never happened)

WTF - that's the World Transportation Fair ;). The planning received a lot of coverage in Billboard. The photo of Jackee Waldron is dated 1-19-50, so the map almost certainly shows the proposed site in Torrance. The clipping below is from the January 21, 1950 issue of Billboard.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ationFair1.jpg
books.google.com

Within a few months, the proposed site was changed to Santa Anita Park. This articale is from the April 15, 1950 issue of Billboard.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ationFair2.jpg
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ationFair3.jpg
books.google.com

At some point, Ira W Curry ran into trouble getting the necessary permits. This is from the April 21, 1950 issue of Billboard.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ationFair4.jpg
books.google.com

It looks like the exposition was eventually called off, which explains the lack of pictures. This last piece is from the August 4, 1951 issue of Billboard.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ationFair5.jpg
books.google.com

NB. I've rearranged the layout of some of the clippings to make them more screen-friendly.


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