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HossC Apr 14, 2015 1:28 PM

GW was the first to post about the Hotel Cortez (formerly the Hotel Louise) on Columbia Avenue. The full post is here, and contains newspaper clippings and more pictures. Last night I found this postcard which gives us a small look inside.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...C.jpg~original
eBay


Follow-ups on the Hotel Cortez/Hotel Louise:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17447

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17467

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17472

GaylordWilshire Apr 14, 2015 2:18 PM

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-A...s1.bmp-001.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-G...OT.bmp-002.jpg


A great ad from the Times of Jan 3, 1928, reminded me of this shot from Chuckaluck's post last year:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics28/00033990.jpg

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=21939

GaylordWilshire Apr 14, 2015 7:18 PM

More views of the traveling courthouse stones:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...2657131&type=3

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-a...512/stairs.jpg

Wig-Wag Apr 14, 2015 7:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6989859)

GW, the illustration in the ad looks to be a dropout halftone or "line resolve" of the photograph. I would offer that somewhere there is a continuous tone photo of the truck as well. Nice work by the graphic artist.

Going by Chuckaluck's previous post showing an address of 1711 Albion Street, Los Angeles, CA, the building on the left is still extant, albeit heavily altered and integrated into a newer structure. Check out a Google satellite view.

Cheers,
Jack

ethereal_reality Apr 14, 2015 9:05 PM

Any idea what this interesting building is/was? (this is a detail of the photograph above :previous:)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...912/zjprXu.jpg
detail

I'm thinking it could possibly be a school (there are kids in a lot to it's right).


...and Albion Elementary School is in the vicinity.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...537/wRqs9r.jpg
google_maps

MichaelRyerson Apr 14, 2015 9:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6989859)



https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5493/...54d78eb8_o.jpgThe great Southern Pacific piggy-back yard, 1934

Hughes Ice Cream on Albion shows just above center. We're looking across the great Southern Pacific piggy-back yard with the Macy Street bridge just out-of-frame at the lower left. The SP roundhouse is just below the Alhambra right-of-way with the Alhambra RR bridge showing at the left. The Main Street bridge is above that with Albion and Hughes Ice Cream just north of the bridge east of the river. See it?

All this and we get the SP River Station 'Cornfield' yard at the left/center and the Taylor Yard upper background as well.

tovangar2 Apr 14, 2015 9:27 PM

The Windsor Apartments
 
:previous: The American Ice Cream Company was on the Hughes site until recently.


A fashionable and gracious neighborhood grew around the 1921 Ambassador Hotel. One of the new neighbors, the 1926 Windsor Apartments still stands at 7th and Catalina:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-l...12447%2BAM.jpg
uscdl (detail)

It's maintained nicely, although there's maybe too many attention-grabbing awnings:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6...12923%2BAM.jpg
gsv

The little gable-top bobbles have gone missing:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-U...20440%2BPM.jpg
gsv

The Ambassador and its immediate surroundings in 1956. The Windsor is in the lower-right corner and the Embassy is on the opposite side of the Ambassador, facing Mariposa. Across the top is the 1951 triple-wide 3440 Wilshire building (a big hint of things to come), the 1925 Chapman Park Hotel and Bungalows, the 1926 Brown Derby (at its second location) and the extant 1924 Gaylord:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-I...21852%2BPM.jpg
uscdl (detail)

There was diagonal street-parking on 7th, east of Catalina:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-e...14828%2BPM.jpg
uscdl (detail)

Tourmaline has taken us here before: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=15943

I read somewhere that the Beverly Hills Hotel at one time provided room service to its immediate neighbors. I wonder if the Ambassador did that.

MichaelRyerson Apr 14, 2015 9:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6990465)
I read somewhere that the Beverly Hills Hotel at one time provided room service to its immediate neighbors. I wonder if the Ambassador did that.

Where did you see that? Could you be remembering the Beverly Hills Hotel bungalows?

tovangar2 Apr 14, 2015 10:13 PM

:previous:
Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6990489)
Where did you see that? Could you be remembering the Beverly Hills Hotel bungalows?

No, it was definitely wealthy homeowners surrounding the hotel. They probably gave the hotel so much business, their wishes could not be ignored. Sorry, I cannot find the reference ATM.

HossC Apr 14, 2015 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6990443)

Any idea what this interesting building is/was? (this is a detail of the photograph above :previous:)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...912/zjprXu.jpg
detail

I'm thinking it could possibly be a school (there are kids in a lot to it's right).

I think the building in question is the one in the City Play Grounds on this 1921 Baist map. It's gone by 1948 (the first image at Historic Aerials). My guess would be some sort of clubhouse for the recreation area. The building is also present on the 1914 map, but the 1910 map just shows an empty lot (no City Play Grounds). The Hughes Ice Cream factory can be seen near bottom on Jetty Street. I don't know how long it was known as Jetty Street, because it's currently part of Albion Street, as it was on the 1910 and 1914 Baist maps.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...layGrounds.jpg
www.historicmapworks.com

Incidentally, the Hughes Ice Cream factory site is marked as a brewery on the 1910 and 1914 Baist maps. I wonder if the brewery was converted to a factory when prohibition started, or if Hughes built a new factory. The footprints from 1914 and 1921 look similar.

ethereal_reality Apr 14, 2015 11:01 PM

:previous: -Thanks Hoss. Sanborn to the rescue! :)






Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6987396)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-L...2520AM.bmp.jpghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-n...2520AM.bmp.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-S...409%2520AM.jpg

1331 Sunset boulevard.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/8M1kJt.jpg


The space seems to have had many uses...Horace Moll, who ran the Moll School of Embalming--which appears to have become the Los Angeles College of Embalming before he died in 1929--was in the building by the mid '20s; he also advertised "Du Moll" cosmetics for the undead as well as preparations to rid your house of moths, roaches, and ants. Pretty noirish...as was the clap clinic ("one day treatment") there in 1947. N. N. Lewis's drug store was there in 1933; the spinner factory in 1951, Murray's Furniture in 1955....

Times and Esty

:previous: So let me get this straight...Mr. Moll was selling both cosmetics and insecticides from the same building? (I hope he was careful not to get his recipes mixed up)

....and then it was a V.D. clinic in 1947?

The noir is in the details.

Thanks for digging up this information GW.
(and I didn't even mention the embalming)
__

HossC Apr 14, 2015 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6990465)

A fashionable and gracious neighborhood grew around the 1921 Ambassador Hotel. One of the new neighbors, the 1926 Windsor Apartments still stands at 7th and Catalina:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-l...12447%2BAM.jpg
uscdl (detail)

It's maintained nicely, although there's maybe too many attention-grabbing awnings:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6...12923%2BAM.jpg
gsv

Tourmaline has taken us here before: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=15943

This is the 1935 image of the Windsor Apartments that's currently missing from Tourmaline's post. It looks like CSL have kept the image name the same, but changed the name of one of the sub-folders in the address ("a19_1" is now "a21_1"). I wonder if any other hotlinks are affected.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...indsorApts.jpg
California State Library

BTW. The Windsor Apartments appear to have had the same red awnings since at least the late '70s. Here they are in they background of a shot from a season 3 episode of 'CHiPs' called 'Hot Wheels'. A reverse view of this location appears in the season 5 episode 'Diamond in the Rough', when the side of the Ambassador Hotel plays the part of Valley General Hospital.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rAptsCHiPs.jpg
Rosner TV/MGM TV

Wig-Wag Apr 15, 2015 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6990569)
I think the building in question is the one in the City Play Grounds on this 1921 Baist map. It's gone by 1948 (the first image at Historic Aerials). My guess would be some sort of clubhouse for the recreation area. The building is also present on the 1914 map, but the 1910 map just shows an empty lot (no City Play Grounds). The Hughes Ice Cream factory can be seen near bottom on Jetty Street. I don't know how long it was known as Jetty Street, because it's currently part of Albion Street, as it was on the 1910 and 1914 Baist maps.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...layGrounds.jpg
www.historicmapworks.com

Incidentally, the Hughes Ice Cream factory site is marked as a brewery on the 1910 and 1914 Baist maps. I wonder if the brewery was converted to a factory when prohibition started, or if Hughes built a new factory. The footprints from 1914 and 1921 look similar.

I should have mentioned it in my earlier post. Here's your answer HossC.

From age 64 of this Google book.

https://books.google.com/books?id=3g...ngeles&f=false
http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...psv294d8qe.jpg

Cheers,
Jack

GaylordWilshire Apr 15, 2015 12:15 AM

Re the Windsor apartments

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h...2520PM.bmp.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-H...2520PM.bmp.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3...2520PM.bmp.jpg

Times Feb 13 & 20, 1927; Apr 26-1936

tovangar2 Apr 15, 2015 12:38 AM

Chapman Park Hotel
 
Does anyone know the whole story of the Chapman Park Hotel? I've read (on the net, so it must be true) that the first building (presumably the main hotel) went up in 1925. The Brown Derby was built on the block in '26.

In 1956 view below, the Chapman Park Hotel and Bungalows takes up the entire block with the Chapman Garage across Mariposa (upper left) and the Chapman Studio and Market buildings across W 6th on either side of Alexandria. A regular little Chapmanville:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6...42742%2BPM.jpg
uscdl (detail)

It's what happened at the time of the 1969 Equitable Plaza that interests me.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-i...35907%2BPM.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G...35100%2BPM.jpg

above: nowandthen

Both articles say the hotel will be reconfigured and continue operations. Did anthing remotely like that actually happen? If so, when did it finally close and get demolished? Just curious. Thanks.

Chapman Park Hotel pool, n.d.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-k...70716%2BPM.jpg
nowandthen
(more pix at the link)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6990619)
This is the 1935 image of the Windsor Apartments .

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...indsorApts.jpg
California State Library

Hey, look at that, a sign. Thx

GaylordWilshire Apr 15, 2015 1:18 AM

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-c...2520PM.bmp.jpgCalif State Library


One of the prettiest buildings ever built on early commercial Wilshire Boulevard was this one at the northeast corner of Westmoreland Avenue. Its story, and that of the other low-rise stores that replaced the boulevard's houses, is here: http://wilshireboulevardhouses.blogs...lease-see.html

unihikid Apr 15, 2015 2:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6990619)
This is the 1935 image of the Windsor Apartments that's currently missing from Tourmaline's post. It looks like CSL have kept the image name the same, but changed the name of one of the sub-folders in the address ("a19_1" is now "a21_1"). I wonder if any other hotlinks are affected.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...indsorApts.jpg
California State Library

BTW. The Windsor Apartments appear to have had the same red awnings since at least the late '70s. Here they are in they background of a shot from a season 3 episode of 'CHiPs' called 'Hot Wheels'. A reverse view of this location appears in the season 5 episode 'Diamond in the Rough', when the side of the Ambassador Hotel plays the part of Valley General Hospital.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rAptsCHiPs.jpg
Rosner TV/MGM TV

Last Friday I went to a birthday gathering in this area with a couple of friends. My buddies girlfriend suggested we check out this bar thats in her favorite TV show "New Girl" ,low and behold its this building, I cant tell you what the bar is called,but its in the basement and it was very,very,very red, and I was told that they have the best chicken in town....also they dont make old fashions, but the price was fair for a whiskey on the rocks.

ersatz01 Apr 15, 2015 3:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 6990794)
Last Friday I went to a birthday gathering in this area with a couple of friends. My buddies girlfriend suggested we check out this bar thats in her favorite TV show "New Girl" ,low and behold its this building, I cant tell you what the bar is called,but its in the basement and it was very,very,very red, and I was told that they have the best chicken in town....also they dont make old fashions, but the price was fair for a whiskey on the rocks.

The bar is called "The Prince", and it's in more than the New Girl... it stood in for The Brown Derby in Chinatown, when Jack Nicholson/Gittes meets with Faye Dunaway/Mrs. Mulwray during lunch. The Prince is now Korean owned, but the owners have done great job keeping the space looking great. That "chicken" dish is awesome - it's called kyochan chicken (which is triple fried).

CityBoyDoug Apr 15, 2015 5:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ersatz01 (Post 6990831)
The bar is called "The Prince", and it's in more than the New Girl... it stood in for The Brown Derby in Chinatown, when Jack Nicholson/Gittes meets with Faye Dunaway/Mrs. Mulwray during lunch. The Prince is now Korean owned, but the owners have done great job keeping the space looking great. That "chicken" dish is awesome - it's called kyochan chicken (which is triple fried).

Here is what the Prince bar looks like in 2015. There's also a dining room that's similar.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps5aaq6yoe.jpg
Prince Bar

haiku99 Apr 15, 2015 6:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 6983025)
Ellroy has his detractors and followers—and few in between, to be certain! '53 is by and large a big glossy picture-book, though, which makes it all the more germane to NLA: ganze noirische crime scene images with which to play "compare via Googlemobile."

Nearly all of Ellroy is unreadable to me but a major exception is the autobiographical "My Dark Places" VERY disturbing yet fascinating....and about as noir as it gets

http://www.amazon.com/My-Dark-Places...my+dark+places


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