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OLeander5-5225 Oct 28, 2013 5:06 AM

Captains Table on La Cienega just north of Beverly Blvd, 1955
 
Found this picture on ebay. Does anyone know any details of the Captains Table Restaurant? I did a search on line and it looks like it was at 301 S. La Cienega where the current day mini-mall housing Subway is located on the southwest corner of La Cienega and Third. But this photo makes it looks like it was located further north, on the opposite side of the street, north of Beverly Blvd. approximately where Real Food Daily stands today.

Update: I stupidly did not look closely at the sign. It says "Go Back". Clearly, Captains Table WAS at 301 S. La Cienega and this is the picture of the sign reminding the driver that you have just PASSED it. Better get stronger reading glasses.

http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/...ps66d9b88f.png

Original posting: eBay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-PHOTO-19...item58a6a228e0

Otis Criblecoblis Oct 28, 2013 7:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6317341)
These other slides were including in the group.

These last two are pretty much a mystery to me.

http://imageshack.us/a/img41/9490/c16v.jpgebay


especially this one.
http://imageshack.us/a/img20/9479/csyc.jpgebay
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Oh boy, I get to help!

The first photo above is the junction of Cañada Blvd. and Verdugo Rd. in Glendale. The picture was taken from the front lawn of Glendale College facing approximately NW.

The next photo, actually, appears to have been taken from the same location, except this time facing SW. The building across Verdugo Rd. in the distance is the Glendale Civic Auditorium, with the building for the old municipal swimming pool in front of it.

I would say these pictures were taken in 1962 or 63. I know that the gas station being built on the wedge between Cañada and Verdugo was in operation by mid-1964.

Flyingwedge Oct 28, 2013 7:57 AM

Antonio Maria Lugo adobe on San Pedro Street
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6251971)

Here's an 1854 map of the Antonio Maria Lugo vineyard on the "Road to San Pedro," later San Pedro Street. The 1819 adobe is in the extreme lower left corner of the map:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps08bb2909.jpg
Huntington Digital Library -- http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/11676/rec/1

The portion of the map with the adobe, closer up and reoriented:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psc757fb79.jpg
Maria Merced Lugo de Foster was the daughter of Antonio Maria Lugo. She married Stephen Foster, alcalde/mayor of Los Angeles 1848-49. Their daughter Carrie married Wallace Woodworth, to whom Lugo deeded the homestead property on November 24, 1857. More about Antonio Maria Lugo and his family here: http://books.google.com/books?id=gAc...20lugo&f=false

The area ("W. Woodworth") on the 1884 Stephenson Map. Mayo Street will later be renamed 3rd Street:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psbed2e5bd.jpg
Calisphere -- http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/hb3s2008sd/?order=1

The Lugo Adobe on the 1888 Sanborn Map, with the Woodworth home just below it. Second Street has been put through the property at lower right:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps528be199.jpg
LAPL

The Lugo Adobe c. 1885. Starting at the right front corner (next to the left entrance/driveway marker) and going back, I count at least 13 posts/columns. In the distance, facing the camera may be the slanted roof of the carriage house indicated on the Sanborn Map:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psca84a8ca.jpg
USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...d/25330/rec/62

This is also supposed to be a c. 1885 photo of the Lugo Adobe. The picket fence matches the photo above, but I don't see those palm trees in other photos:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3dee8759.jpg
LAPL -- http://jpg1.lapl.org/00081/00081446.jpg

Here's a section of the adobe in c. 1900-02:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6547edfe.jpg
USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/2636/rec/66

The area on the 1906 Sanborn Map:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6357ef42.jpg
LAPL

The entrance/driveway markers in this c. 1910 photo match the ones in the first c. 1885 photo. Starting from the right front corner and going back, I count only 10 posts/columns (you'll see why in the next photo):
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps86e249c0.jpg
The Quarterly / Historical Society of Southern California (1914) -- http://books.google.com/books?id=gF4...street&f=false

Near the end, c. 1910. San Pedro Street has been extended from 1st to 2nd, demolishing the old Woodworth house and the rear portion of the Lugo Adobe, leaving the carriage house on the east side of the new street:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps335c8332.jpg
USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/4014/rec/73

Another notable property in the c. 1910 aerial photo is 243 S. San Pedro, a brick house built perhaps as early as 1853 by Dr. William A. Hammel (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=14907).

215 S. San Pedro was the home of Louis Breer, a longtime Los Angeles blacksmith. Breer built a brick house on the property in about the mid-1860s; an older adobe home that was to the left of the brick house may also be in the aerial photo. Here he is listed among the blacksmiths in the Los Angeles City Directory of 1908 -- his 80th year:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps49cc774e.jpg
Fold3.com

The brick home survived until at least 1940; here it is on the 1940 WPA Model of Los Angeles:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps29622619.jpg
Photo by me

A wider view:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps20487a68.jpg
Photo also by me

Louis Breer's son Carl, at age 18, built a replica Stanley Steamer and went on to be one of the founding engineers of the Chrysler Corporation: http://books.google.com/books?id=_dj...ksmith&f=false

HossC Oct 28, 2013 2:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLeander5-5225 (Post 6317919)
Found this picture on ebay. Does anyone know any details of the Captains Table Restaurant? I did a search on line and it looks like it was at 301 S. La Cienega where the current day mini-mall housing Subway is located on the southwest corner of La Cienega and Third. But this photo makes it looks like it was located further north, on the opposite side of the street, north of Beverly Blvd. approximately where Real Food Daily stands today.

Update: I stupidly did not look closely at the sign. It says "Go Back". Clearly, Captains Table WAS at 301 S. La Cienega and this is the picture of the sign reminding the driver that you have just PASSED it. Better get stronger reading glasses.

http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/...ps66d9b88f.png

Original posting: eBay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-PHOTO-19...item58a6a228e0

It's actually further north than Real Food Daily. There aren't many business names to work with here, but the enlargements provided by the Ebay seller helped out. The insets are from the 1956 City Directory.

The building on the right is The Diners' Club, which was at 910 N La Cienega in 1956. The address is now occupied by Szalon, a Hungarian Art Deco/Modernist furniture store.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...LaCienega1.jpg
Picture: Ebay/Inset: rescarta.lapl.org

On the left is Canyon Cleaners & Dyers at 937 N La Cienega. The sign is on the sidewalk to the left of the truck. The current building was closed when the Google car went by, but it's now the OHWOW art gallery.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...LaCienega2.jpg
Picture: Ebay/Inset: rescarta.lapl.org

There's a Motor Hotel sign to the left of the Old Crow billboard, but I can't see a name.

oldstuff Oct 28, 2013 3:22 PM

The first mystery picture appears to be somewhere south of the LA River looking toward Burbank. You can see a bridge to the left of the signs. It would be in the Glendale area (or Silverlake)

The second picture is definitely a view of the Glendale Civic Auditorium looking west from Glendale College ( the sloping grass area in the foreground) The street would be Verdugo Road, just above where Mountain crosses it

GaylordWilshire Oct 28, 2013 3:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 6318199)
The first mystery picture appears to be somewhere south of the LA River looking toward Burbank. You can see a bridge to the left of the signs. It would be in the Glendale area (or Silverlake)

The second picture is definitely a view of the Glendale Civic Auditorium looking west from Glendale College ( the sloping grass area in the foreground) The street would be Verdugo Road, just above where Mountain crosses it


Which post are you referring to?

Martin Pal Oct 28, 2013 5:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6318117)
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...LaCienega2.jpg
Picture: Ebay/Inset: rescarta.lapl.org

There's a Motor Hotel sign to the left of the Old Crow billboard, but I can't see a name.

The hotel sign to the "right" of the Old Crow billboard is definitely from the Alta Cienega Motor Hotel that e_r recently posted about, as seen in this previously posted photo from 1969:

http://www.rayandrobby.com/images/LA/lacienega2.jpg
all photos in this post: RayandRobby

Postcard:

http://www.rayandrobby.com/images/LA/altapostcard.jpg

This other photo has a sign that says "Motel" on the corner. I haven't seen any mention of a motel there although it looks like there could be.

http://www.rayandrobby.com/images/LA/lacienega1.jpg

The Phone Booth Restaurant sign turns out to be, well they served food, but apparently it was primarily a strip club and bar.

http://www.rayandrobby.com/images/LA/phoneboothold.jpg

And the building across the street, which you glimpse in the lower right hand corner of the color photo, was another strip club called "The Extension."

Down the street on Santa Monica another block was another (infamous?) motor hotel, which contained "Duke's Coffee Shop.":

http://www.rayandrobby.com/images/LA...napostcard.jpg

The Tropicana (Or TRIPicana as some called it) area was redeveloped and is now the site of a Ramada and parking, along with restaurants and retail establishments. Duke's Coffee shop relocated to Sunset Blvd.!

Martin Pal Oct 28, 2013 5:58 PM

Until just a minute ago, I had no idea that over the years one of the several owners of
the Tropicana was Sandy Koufax and it was known as Sandy Koufax Tropicana.
(And even though I was around there in the 80's, I didn't know it had a pool, either!)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Okr-6QtX1G...Q%7E%7E0_3.JPG
Ebay / dodgersblueheaven

Hmmm...wonder why Sandy had a motel of his own in West Hollywood?

Martin Pal Oct 28, 2013 6:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6317791)

Thanks for those links. Loved the menu...Dino's sounds like my kinda place!

GaylordWilshire Oct 28, 2013 6:18 PM

Presumably Koufax bought the motel just as an investment... anyway, a few bits from the Times:


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-B...ufaxcompl2.jpg June 17, 1962


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-c...2520PM.bmp.jpg Feb 5, 1964

HossC Oct 28, 2013 7:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6318390)
The hotel sign to the "right" of the Old Crow billboard is definitely from the Alta Cienega Motor Hotel that e_r recently posted about, as seen in this previously posted photo from 1969:

http://www.rayandrobby.com/images/LA/lacienega2.jpg
all photos in this post: RayandRobby

Postcard:

http://www.rayandrobby.com/images/LA/altapostcard.jpg

Thanks for connecting the posts together, Martin. That roof sign on the Alta Cienega postcard looks like a good match for the Motor Hotel sign to the left of the billboard. e_r's post on the Alta Cienega Motor Hotel can be found here.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z.../LAOldCrow.jpg
Ebay

Just to increase their clarity, I've tweaked the levels of the Phone Booth pictures.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...honeBooth1.jpghttp://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...honeBooth2.jpg
Originals from RayandRobby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6318390)
Down the street on Santa Monica another block was another (infamous?) motor hotel, which contained "Duke's Coffee Shop.":

http://www.rayandrobby.com/images/LA...napostcard.jpg

The Tropicana (Or TRIPicana as some called it) area was redeveloped and is now the site of a Ramada and parking, along with restaurants and retail establishments. Duke's Coffee shop relocated to Sunset Blvd.!

There's more info on The Tropicana, Duke's Coffee Shop and Tom Waits at www.tomwaitsfan.com.

ethereal_reality Oct 28, 2013 7:52 PM

Thank you Otis Criblecobis and oldstuff for the information on the two photos I posted. -much appreciated.
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ethereal_reality Oct 28, 2013 9:21 PM

Here's a great slide of the Plaza Church. pan right-->
http://imageshack.us/a/img689/2074/z4su.jpgebay

Can anyone help me out with a date?
-I am unable to do it by looking at the automobile and buses, but I know a lot of you can. ;)

Think how many years school children have been visiting the Plaza. -pretty cool
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ethereal_reality Oct 28, 2013 9:25 PM

Pershing Square/date unknown
http://imageshack.us/a/img31/7804/j03x.JPGebay



-back when it actually looked like a park.
http://imageshack.us/a/img837/249/71kv.jpgebay
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ethereal_reality Oct 28, 2013 9:29 PM

This was also included in the plaza church/pershing square slide 'group'. -be sure to pan--->
http://imageshack.us/a/img822/1208/45d5.jpgebay

At first glance I thought Olvera Street, but I don't recognize the building in the back ground. (City Hall?)




Here's another one..

A park/pond other than Pershing Square. Where might this be?
http://imageshack.us/a/img138/4034/g4h6.jpgebay
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HossC Oct 28, 2013 9:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6318667)
Here's a great slide of the Plaza Church. pan right-->
http://imageshack.us/a/img689/2074/z4su.jpgebay

Can anyone help me out with a date?
-I am unable to do it by looking at the automobile and buses, but I know a lot of you can. ;)

I'll give it a try :).

I think the gray car is a 1940 Ford, and the school bus in front of the church is an REO like the one below in a 1948 brochure.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...A/LAREOBus.jpg
Ebay

revheavyg Oct 28, 2013 10:35 PM

(QUOTE=ethereal_reality) This was also included in the plaza church/pershing square slide 'group'. -be sure to pan--->
http://imageshack.us/a/img822/1208/45d5.jpgebay

At first glance I thought Olvera Street, but I don't recognize the building in the back ground. (City Hall?)


Yes this is city hall @ethereal_reality. :) its the Spring street entrance which is no longer in use :( mostly used for Filming!
http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9396fa66.png

ethereal_reality Oct 29, 2013 12:24 AM

:previous: Thanks revheavyg. It was a lucky guess on my part.
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Retired_in_Texas Oct 29, 2013 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6318667)
Here's a great slide of the Plaza Church. pan right-->
http://imageshack.us/a/img689/2074/z4su.jpgebay

Can anyone help me out with a date?
-I am unable to do it by looking at the automobile and buses, but I know a lot of you can. ;)

Think how many years school children have been visiting the Plaza. -pretty cool
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The Ford Convertible in the photo would be either a 1939 or 1940 model. Hard to say for certain as there were few only minor differences in appearance between the two years.

ethereal_reality Oct 29, 2013 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6318722)
I think the gray car is a 1940 Ford, and the school bus in front of the church is an REO like the one below in a 1948 brochure.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...A/LAREOBus.jpg
Ebay

Interesting HossC. I wonder about the other bus in the slide. To me it looks much more modern than the REO bus,
-with it's 'flat' front (for lack of a better description)

As always, I appreciate the help.
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