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ethereal_reality Oct 2, 2013 12:36 AM

Our Man Flint.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 6284911)

"Frank Putnam Flint played a major political role in bringing Owens Valley water to metropolitan Los Angeles"

Now I understand why Senator Flint was memorialized with a water fountain instead of a statue.
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-By the way, what is the modern building in the background? The wedge portion reminds me of the Metropolitan Correctional Center
in downtown Chicago.

seen here
http://chicagomodern.wordpress.com/2...tional-center/

Chuckaluck Oct 2, 2013 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6286567)

-a billboard for Hollywood Knolls.
http://imageshack.us/a/img822/9529/v5uj.jpg
usc
Is that one of those history bell things or just a light? ;) It looks a bit short, like the highway marker to it's left.
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-here's an impressive home from photograph #2 (still no street number)
http://imageshack.us/a/img547/3939/dk6j.jpg
usc

Dinner on me at Chasen's for the first person to locate one of these homes. :)

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You are treading dangerously close to Monkey Island. A review of the many aerials posted in that regard might prove enlightening.

First reaction to the homes was Whitley Heights, which would likely be on the opposite side of the pass. Although I am not the biggest chili aficianado, shall I reserve a booth? "Vodka martini with an onion."

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7123/7...f5280479_o.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7123/7...f5280479_o.jpg http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=14044


http://www.whitleyheights.org/media/img23.jpghttp://www.whitleyheights.org/media/img23.jpg


http://www.whitleyheights.org/media/...dbowl.1930.jpghttp://www.whitleyheights.org/media/...dbowl.1930.jpg


http://www.whitleyheights.org/media/..._l_whitley.jpghttp://www.whitleyheights.org/media/..._l_whitley.jpg






http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...li/Chasens.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...li/Chasens.jpg

http://cruiselinehistory.com/wp-cont...011/10/h80.jpghttp://cruiselinehistory.com/wp-cont...011/10/h80.jpg


http://cruiselinehistory.com/wp-cont...10/chasen1.pnghttp://cruiselinehistory.com/wp-cont...10/chasen1.png


http://cruiselinehistory.com/wp-cont...er-479x600.jpghttp://cruiselinehistory.com/wp-cont...er-479x600.jpg

ethereal_reality Oct 2, 2013 1:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6286656)
You are treading dangerously close to Monkey Island.

My heart palpitates at the mere mention of Monkey Island. ;)
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ethereal_reality Oct 2, 2013 2:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportbiker (Post 6284109)
I lived in the Security Building downtown (5th and Spring) for a few years.

Welcome to noirish Los Angeles sportbiker! When you lived at 5th and Spring did you by chance take any photographs? (fingers crossed)

I'm curious to know if the once opulent lobby has retained any of it's earlier grandeur.
http://imageshack.us/a/img109/1806/19q7.jpg
from an old cd of mine




-director's room/with it's massive 'pink' marble fireplace
http://imageshack.us/a/img834/5274/ep9g.jpg
pc/ebay

-by the way, the 1906 map you posted was very cool. thx for sharing.

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BifRayRock Oct 2, 2013 3:01 AM




VERY tough economy!




Quote:

Clarence Saunders (August 9, 1881 – October 14, 1953) was an American grocer who first developed the modern retail sales model of self service. His ideas have had a massive influence on the development of the modern supermarket. Clarence Saunders worked for most of his life trying to develop a truly automated store, developing Piggly Wiggly, Keedoozle, and Foodelectric store concepts.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Sole Owner Stores

In a move reminiscent of that of John Walter Scott’s in 1889, he went on to create the "Clarence Saunders Sole Owner of My Name Stores" chain in 1928. The chain, which was known by the public as "Sole Owner" stores, initially flourished, with 675 stores operating and annual sales of $60 million in 1929. However the chain went into bankruptcy in 1930 at the start of the Great Depression. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarenc...s_%28grocer%29


1930 - Glendale (NE Corner of Broadway and Central Ave.)
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics22/00060530.jpghttp://jpg3.lapl.org/pics22/00060530.jpg


Burbank. - Undated (But we can guess :previous:)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics22/00030935.jpg
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics22/00030935.jpg




1935 - McDonnell's Drive In (Could it be same Beverly and La Brea location? Probably not, unless different perspective or remodel.)http://lh5.ggpht.com/-3F1QgnhcWUA/Rl.../art%20639.jpghttp://lh5.ggpht.com/-3F1QgnhcWUA/Rl.../art%20639.jpg


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=16832
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...C5RUPAJNAE.jpg




Those Who Squirm! Oct 2, 2013 3:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albany NY (Post 5741315)

ethereal reality posted several pics of an apparent robbery in 1958. I was surprised to see several buildings from that day still standing, including the scene of the crime at West Olive and West Manchester.

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8894/48754374.jpgGoogle Maps

It's not all that surprising. As long as a given neighborhood wasn't in the way of a freeway, or the target of massive scorched-earth redevelopment projects, there's often a great many buildings left from the early decades of the 20th Century. I've seen this all over the basin, particularly on the main commercial drags. A building that was good enough for a hardware store, barber shop, or bar 70 years ago often proves to be still good enough today.

sportbiker Oct 2, 2013 4:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6286766)
Welcome to noirish Los Angeles sportbiker! When you lived at 5th and Spring did you by chance take any photographs? (fingers crossed)

I'm curious to know if the once opulent lobby has retained any of it's earlier grandeur.

The interior is all but unrecognizable, the only exceptions being the original elevator cabs (very cool! they even have the original brass "Otis" medallion in the center of the floor) and portions of the stairwells. The banking lobby was divided in half height-wise, creating a new floor. The ground floor has been divided into a restaurant (now closed) and the Onxy lounge; the new second-floor is apartments and building amenities including the fitness center and a couple of resident lounges. The building/apartment lobby on the first floor has all new wall surfaces and the marble columns have been entombed within wallboard box columns. The basement is 100% original, but there's no resident access.

From the third-floor up, the hallways retain most of their original marble flooring and marble wall veneers up to about the 6' level, but false ceilings drop the apparent height (I suspect the utilities and apartment infrastructure run within that space); the stairwells retain some marble as well as the original ornate brass railings, but the railings have all been painted a color I call "state hospital green."

The windows were the best part: original, oversized, hugely drafty, but wonderful for air and light.

Short answer: There wasn't enough left to be worth taking pics.

Funny you should show two postcards: I own originals of those, and three others:

http://i1169.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8e6776b0.jpg

http://i1169.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1911bf1a.jpg

And the untouched basement (I tried to get in there but the building mgmt wouldn't let me):

http://i1169.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2da6932f.jpg

Lastly, I talked about the wonderful windows. I took this snap when I was moving in. The place was still a mess, but you can see how much light streamed in. One of the best parts of the whole experience:

http://i1169.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1ad661b3.jpg

Those Who Squirm! Oct 2, 2013 5:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malumot (Post 5758133)
Before and after of the Santa Ana Metrolink/AMTRAK station.

Mommy MTA decided we are incapable of crossing the tracks for our trains by ourselves (despite the fact that ALL passenger trains stop in Santa Ana, and freights slow to a crawl while passing through the station.)

I don't understand. What does LACMTA have to do with the Santa Ana train station? I know they now own LAUS, but are they now acquiring other stations out of town?

Those Who Squirm! Oct 2, 2013 5:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5759860)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8282/7...e94c3473_b.jpg
Calle de los Negros, circa 1882
image from California State Library

I don't remember seeing this image before. On the left is the adobe of Antonio Coronel; behind the adobe and with belltower is the fire station; center with a gable roof is the adobe of Vincent Lugo (facing the plaza on Los Angeles Street); and right with columns is the Antonio Maria Lugo adobe, which he willed to his son, Dolores del Carmen Lugo. View is looking toward the plaza from the east.

This has to be looking north, not east, if we're looking straight up C.d.l.N.

ETA: Well, north-ish I suppose. Let's say N by NE.

alester young Oct 2, 2013 9:57 AM

Shoestring potatoes and McDonnell's
 
[QUOTE=BifRayRock;6286876]

1935 - McDonnell's Drive In (Could it be same Beverly and La Brea location? Probably not, unless different perspective or remodel.)http://lh5.ggpht.com/-3F1QgnhcWUA/Rl.../art%20639.jpghttp://lh5.ggpht.com/-3F1QgnhcWUA/Rl.../art%20639.jpg


Nice vibrant photo, BifRayRock. I like the art deco building and signage -very mid 1930s.

Club breakfast -Quick Service in your car. LOL. Wonder what a Club Breakfast was? Hope it wasn't something too messy. Would not like to try eating a Full English Breakfast in my car...sounds like a challenge for valeting products (bacon grease, fried egg, ketchups etc). Milk wouldn't be that great either....

Shoestring potatoes? Haven't heard this term before. Are these the same as "French Fries"?

Wonder what happened to McDonnell's -was this a chain in pre war L.A.?

Thanks

Alester

Graybeard Oct 2, 2013 11:15 AM

This home seems to have many of the same architectural elements as the older picture. Perhaps remodeled?
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9294/hxuv.jpg
Google Street View

http://imageshack.us/a/img89/2893/ctcg.jpg

HossC Oct 2, 2013 1:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5759860)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 6287082)
This has to be looking north, not east, if we're looking straight up C.d.l.N.

Can we compromise? Below is a section of the 1910 Baist Real Estate Survey which I've rotated to a north/south alignment using the compass rose on the map. While I'll concede that we're looking a couple of degrees more north than east (the watermark shows I've rotated it by just over 45 degrees), on a regular 8-point compass the view is pretty close to north east.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...stCdlN1910.jpg
www.historicmapworks.com

ethereal_reality Oct 2, 2013 2:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportbiker (Post 6286996)
The basement is 100% original, but there's no resident access.
http://i1169.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2da6932f.jpg

-so fascinating. I'd love to see this.
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ethereal_reality Oct 2, 2013 3:21 PM

I have a question about the 'bars' over the two round windows. At first, I just thought they were security bars. Do you think the bars were merely decorative?
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Tourmaline Oct 2, 2013 4:36 PM

Familiar building? ;) ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5881643)
I found this photo on an old cd of mine.

http://imageshack.us/a/img545/6186/k...andaveradi.jpg

I googled it and referenced it back to this site. http://www.radiocityhollywood.com/

below: The building still stands at 1440 North Highland Avenue.

http://imageshack.us/a/img812/7666/aabkecatoday.jpg
google street view

Does anyone know the original purpose of this building...even before it's KECA days?
Could it possibly have been a fire station? (note the three arched doors fronting the street)
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Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6287366)
I have a question about the 'bars' over the two round windows. At first, I just thought they were security bars. Do you think the bars were merely decorative?
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I assume the original occupants were in the '30s photo, but haven't confirmed that via directories or other sources.


The building's original design was deceptively simple with arches (roof tiles and facade) and arches and bevels for windows and doors.

I also assume that most ornamental ironwork primarily served a decorative function. But it also projected security. With the small window sizes, who knows what was behind them? Functioning offices or glorified storage? Interesting to note the how the front arched windows morphed into solid glass brick and may now even sport security bars in front of the glass. This is probably not a decorative element, although it may provide a place to tether a visiting horse and carriage or secure a shopping cart. :uhh:

ethereal_reality Oct 2, 2013 5:02 PM

:previous: Interesting HossC. I had actually forgotten that I posted about this building years ago.


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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6284602)
The Gun Crazy filming locations blog posted by E_R mentions the Department of Water and Power building - it's on the east side of Mateo, just south of the Santa Monica Freeway. When I saw a frontal view, I thought we'd seen it before.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...LADWPMateo.jpg
GSV

Tell me if it has been posted already, but I think my feeling of déjà vu is down to several features in the central section being similar to the DWP building on Vine that E_R posted back in post #12919. By the date on the front, it was built two years before the one above.

http://imageshack.us/a/img11/4717/aa...eatromaine.jpg
E_R/GSV



Here is another Water & Power building. This one is located in a rather obscure area and in the direct path of 43rd Place.
http://imageshack.us/a/img13/556/zber.jpg
google_earth




closer view
http://imageshack.us/a/img209/7672/5k69.jpg
google_earth




This W&P building is very different (in appearance) than the two on Mateo & Vine (posted above by HossC)
http://imageshack.us/a/img266/2332/ivoz.jpg
GSV



http://imageshack.us/a/img716/5696/qeey.jpg
GSV
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Lwize Oct 2, 2013 5:09 PM

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/565/ontra4facades.jpg

It appears all four buildings are gone now.

ethereal_reality Oct 2, 2013 8:01 PM

http://imageshack.us/a/img138/597/rmg8.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img19/6844/rv6s.jpg
ebay

At first I wasn't sure of the location until a close-up revealed the word Elysian. (between the horses heads)
http://imageshack.us/a/img812/3710/ur71.jpg
detail





-compared with the 1901 photograph, the monument's ironwork has mostly been stripped of it's artistic filigree.
http://imageshack.us/a/img547/2466/kvbb.jpg
GSV detail



for reference: -here's the location of the monument.
http://imageshack.us/a/img17/4381/k6hr.jpg
google_earth




http://imageshack.us/a/img194/1866/kjqc.jpg
GSV


-The monument in all it's glory, when there was even an eagle on top!
http://imageshack.us/a/img837/4835/0i6y.jpg
Huntington Hartford Archive




Here is the monument in late 2011, photographed by our very own sopas_ej
http://imageshack.us/a/img801/4352/iknw.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=5787





-here's the diminished base in it's entirety.
http://imageshack.us/a/img545/3944/1c6p.jpg
GSV

I'm curious to know what happened to the base between the 1901 photographs and today. Where's the stone segment with the word Elysian carved into it? The base is much smaller than the base shown in the earlier photographs. I'm hoping someone can find a photograph from 1930s or 40s or 50s or 60s or....



-a couple more details of the 6 horse carriage photograph

showing the photographer's address
http://imageshack.us/a/img844/3747/1vxj.jpg


Lillie, Daisy and Pearl
http://imageshack.us/a/img43/4889/ziv9.jpg

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ethereal_reality Oct 2, 2013 8:34 PM

[QUOTE=Graybeard;6287157]This home seems to have many of the same architectural elements as the older picture. Perhaps remodeled?
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9294/hxuv.jpg
Google Street View

That home is definitely a contemporary of the homes in the vintage photographs Graybeard.


-closer view.
http://imageshack.us/a/img689/8459/f58b.jpg
GSV





I'm looking into the area now for the first time using map/link provided by HossC.
http://imageshack.us/a/img842/4751/qxrf.jpg
http://hollywoodknolls.org/maps/

It's been difficult finding any of the houses in the old photographs. There's been a lot of rebuilding in the area.
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HossC Oct 2, 2013 8:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6287802)
I'm curious to know what happened to the base between the 1901 photographs and today. Where's the stone segment with the word Elysian carved into it? The base is much smaller than the base shown in the earlier photographs. I'm hoping someone can find a photograph from 1930s or 40s or 50s or 60s or....

I haven't quite made it to the '30s, but the monument remained reasonably intact for at least 26 years, although it lost its eagle along the way.

Fremont Entrance to Elysian Park, October 2, 1927

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...anMonument.jpg
USC Digital Library


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