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bighen Aug 13, 2013 4:55 PM

Carls Restaurant at Flower and Figueroa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gemnewt (Post 6230241)
Does anyone have photos of this area South Figueroa St.
& Exposition Blvd, Los Angeles, California 90007.
This area is directly across from the L.A. Sports Arena,
I tried Google and now the only thing I see are parking lots.
I'm doing research on my family history and I'm trying to tell
their story along with pictures of places they lived. My aunt Rose
lived in an apartment across from the Sports Arena and worked
down the road a ways at a Carl's Restaurant (not that one),
I've seen a photo of a Carl's Restaurant but I don't remember it
looking anything like that, does anyone no if there are any other
Carl's restaurant in this general area.
I remember during the Watts riots my mother was afraid for her
sister so she jumped in our car and drove from Glendale to L.A. to
pick her up. I know she worked at Carl's in the 50s and 60s. This is
all I know or remember. If anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it.

There was a Carls Restaurant at the intersection of Flower and Figueroa in the 1930's:

http://imageshack.us/a/img196/1060/kgjr.jpg

Source: Ebay

Lemster reminded me that on the east side of Figueroa going south from Exposition was a USC parking lot, then two homes that served as USC offices, Julie's Restaurant (old USC hangout especially after football games), then Margarita Jones Restaurant. Then crossing Flower, was a parking lot for a medical office/clinic, then a row of apartments (perhaps this is where your Aunt Rose lived across the Sports Arena) and then when you reach Santa Barbara Ave (now MLK Blvd) was the Hotel Coliseum:

http://imageshack.us/a/img703/8486/uasu.jpg

Source: LAPL

Here's an aerial picture of the intersection from 1936:

http://imageshack.us/a/img856/3463/1bff.jpg

Source: USC

A recent picture of the intersection:

http://imageshack.us/a/img32/5513/5fnr.jpg

Source: GSV

There are many aerial photos of "Exposition Park" and the "Coliseum" at the USC and LAPL sites that you may want to check out. If your photo of Carls Restaurant differs from the match book, please scan it and perhaps Lemster or I could try to identify it since we are familiar with the area. Hope this help.

ethereal_reality Aug 13, 2013 6:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 6229263)
Ah, but it's getting late. I have a whole bunch of stuff to add about Clay Street between 4th and 3rd, as it ran right through Angel's Knoll, but that will have to wait!

I am waiting with bated breath Beaudry. :)
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ethereal_reality Aug 13, 2013 7:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6229800)
I dug up a few "Now" shots for a few more Los Angeles Railway/Transit Lines "Thens"... Also, thanks, Wig-Wag for clarifying the distinctions between the Yellow Car paint schemes.

Lake & 9th streets
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-j...2520AM.bmp.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-d...2520AM.bmp.jpg

-notice that the basement windows facing 9th street are cemented over.



The Glen-Donald Apartments
http://imageshack.us/a/img832/6581/oue3.jpg
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/


Something extremely noirish happened here a few years back.

remember?
http://imageshack.us/a/img15/7338/0xvn.jpg
http://www.nola.com/health/index.ssf...2_fetuses.html

-could this explain the cemented windows? (cue spooky music)

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ethereal_reality Aug 13, 2013 7:50 PM

Tetsu, I loved your post on the surviving remnants of Adoph Busch's sunken gardens. Wouldn't it be fun to wander
around in the neighborhood and see if there are even more to be found.

originally posted by Tetsu
http://imageshack.us/a/img716/6734/6gnq.jpg
The Mystic Hut, and it's surviving foundation.

I take it this is in somebody's backyard. I wonder where all that kitschy statuary that dotted the gardens ended up?
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ethereal_reality Aug 13, 2013 7:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys (Post 6229884)
As local lore has it, a man was found hanging from a tree in the canyon they subsequently named "Deadman Canyon." It has since been re-named "Bouquet Canyon"; a more appropriate name for a growing community a century later. You will read many references to the Deadman Canyon siphon, which runs through modern day Santa Clarita. This is of course part of the 233 mile long Los Angeles Aqueduct completed in 1913. There are many historical LA Aqueduct sites in and around Santa Clarita that few residents are aware of, though the most recognizable is the collapsed St. Francis dam site.

Thanks for the information on Deadman Canyon Andys -much appreciated. -Bruce
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GaylordWilshire Aug 13, 2013 8:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6231303)
Something extremely noirish happened here a few years back.

remember?
http://imageshack.us/a/img15/7338/0xvn.jpg
http://www.nola.com/health/index.ssf...2_fetuses.html

-could this explain the cemented windows? (cue spooky music)
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Ah, yes... the Barrie babies. A few priors:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1681

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2005

ethereal_reality Aug 13, 2013 8:38 PM

:previous: I was so excited when I realized the before/after pic you posted was the 'babies in the basement' building
I forgot to include those links. (I was playing up that cemented windows angle ;))
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International flags/Olympic banners 1932
http://imageshack.us/a/img845/4954/i3d4.jpg
ebay
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ethereal_reality Aug 13, 2013 8:56 PM

GIANT image showing the Los Angeles Public Library rotundra. (found on ebay)
http://imageshack.us/a/img823/91/txrk.jpg
ebay

Look how tiny those desks and file cabinets seem. (it looks like a scene from the movie 'Brazil')

Brazil 1985
http://imageshack.us/a/img198/1756/868p.jpg
http://verdoux.wordpress.com/2009/04/16/brazil-1985/

This looks like it could have been filmed in Union Station. Does anyone know if Brazil was filmed in L.A.?
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ethereal_reality Aug 13, 2013 8:59 PM

here's another showing the Flower Street entrance...
http://imageshack.us/a/img713/2615/n6bk.jpg
ebay
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ethereal_reality Aug 13, 2013 9:09 PM

I've heard of a flea circus, but a mouse circus?

Los Angeles County Fair 1937
http://imageshack.us/a/img94/9660/lmvd.jpg
Herman Schultheis/found on an old cd of mine

...and not just any mouse circus, this is an international mouse circus!

GaylordWilshire Aug 13, 2013 9:10 PM

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-n...2520PM.bmp.jpgUSCDL
Carl's address in 1936 was 3760 S Figueroa--as bighen says, at the intersection of Fig & Flower. Flower would be at right... note the
Shrine lurking in the distance, just about due north. It looks like Carl's moved to Leimert Park by 1939--3414 W Vernon, addressed
4401 Crenshaw by 1942.

From this 2010 post by sopas: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1623


Quote:

Originally Posted by gemnewt (Post 6230241)
Does anyone have photos of this area South Figueroa St.
& Exposition Blvd, Los Angeles, California 90007.
This area is directly across from the L.A. Sports Arena,
I tried Google and now the only thing I see are parking lots.
I'm doing research on my family history and I'm trying to tell
their story along with pictures of places they lived. My aunt Rose
lived in an apartment across from the Sports Arena and worked
down the road a ways at a Carl's Restaurant (not that one),
I've seen a photo of a Carl's Restaurant but I don't remember it
looking anything like that, does anyone no if there are any other
Carl's restaurant in this general area.
I remember during the Watts riots my mother was afraid for her
sister so she jumped in our car and drove from Glendale to L.A. to
pick her up. I know she worked at Carl's in the 50s and 60s. This is
all I know or remember. If anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bighen (Post 6231025)
There was a Carls Restaurant at the intersection of Flower and Figueroa in the 1930's:

http://imageshack.us/a/img196/1060/kgjr.jpg

Source: Ebay

A recent picture of the intersection:

http://imageshack.us/a/img32/5513/5fnr.jpg

Source: GSV

There are many aerial photos of "Exposition Park" and the "Coliseum" at the USC and LAPL sites that you may want to check out. If your photo of Carls Restaurant differs from the match book, please scan it and perhaps Lemster or I could try to identify it since we are familiar with the area. Hope this help.


ethereal_reality Aug 13, 2013 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gemnewt (Post 6230241)
Does anyone have photos of this area South Figueroa St. & Exposition Blvd, Los Angeles, California 90007.
This area is directly across from the L.A. Sports Arena. I tried Google and now the only thing I see are parking lots.

Curries at the Coliseum Hotel.
http://imageshack.us/a/img41/7154/5q3f.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=5287

gemnewt, I bet your Aunt Rose stopped here for ice cream back in the day. :)
Maybe that's her, getting ready to cross the street with a friend.



below: And don't forget about the 1,470 seat Fox Figueroa Theater katty-korner across the street.
http://imageshack.us/a/img694/5633/zxgf.jpg
http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/2043/photos

The Coliseum Hotel is visible upper right. This is the intersection of South Figueroa & Santa Barbara Blvd.
(Santa Barbara Blvd. is now MLK Blvd.)

ethereal_reality Aug 13, 2013 10:30 PM

mystery slide

Wilshire fence/no date
http://imageshack.us/a/img543/677/oq2t.jpg
ebay

Anyone want to wager a guess?
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Tetsu Aug 13, 2013 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6231342)
Tetsu, I loved your post on the surviving remnants of Adoph Busch's sunken gardens. Wouldn't it be fun to wander
around in the neighborhood and see if there are even more to be found.
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Thank you! I'm sure there is more to be found. I think Huell Howser did a piece on the site some years ago. I'm actually local (Pasadena born & raised) so maybe a photo expedition would be in order one of these days.

Tetsu Aug 13, 2013 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westcork (Post 6226289)
This house was originally located at the northwest corner of Myrtle and Foothill in Monrovia. Its present (1982) location is 626 W. Colorado in Monrovia. It was built in 1887 by C.Z. Culver and shortly afterward sold to Mrs. Catherine Wilson. The house was moved circa 1921 to 116 W. White Oak Avenue and circa 1925 to 626 W. Colorado.


LAPL


http://imageshack.us/a/img42/5686/mcow.jpg
Google

Love this great Victorian and I know it well! It's the only one in that part of Monrovia so it really stands out. Monrovia has a surprising number of well-preserved Victorians all over town. Really love the black & white photo of the house too. Looks like it must've always been pretty well maintained. There's something I love about photos of older houses with (slight, not major) changes from later eras. Thanks for the info on the house's history.

Flyingwedge Aug 13, 2013 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6227526)
Los Angeles/address unknown
http://imageshack.us/a/img209/2061/y2pg.jpg
ebay
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 6229224)
Still there! Well, I think, and only sort of. The '49 white pages lists Burton's of Hollywood and Burton's Studio Clothes at 414 South Main...and there's the 412 address next door.

Today:
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5537/9...5a19e733_z.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5326/9...58b957a8_o.pngcalstatelib
No, not the Hotel Alcazar. The wee little building to the north, sandwiched between it and the San Fernando building. You can see it a little better in this earlier image (and before it had its top floors lopped off):
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5500/9...9289daee_o.pnglapl

I've also been interested in that little building, which is now 410 S. Main. If I'm reading the LA County Assessor website correctly -- and if the Assessor is right -- it was built in 1950. Here's the building in June 2013:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0b6d7d04.jpg

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps796d3480.jpg
Photos by me

The SE corner of 4th and Main, c. 1906. We see the future site of the San Fernando Building (where the wooden structure is being dismantled), with the Hotel Alcazar on the NE corner of Main and Winston. The building in the middle seems to match the building in Beaudry's 2nd b/w photo above:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psb6fab148.jpg
CA State Library -- http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...GBGL2N41C9.jpg

This undated (early 60s?) photo looks SE at the San Fernando Building on the SE corner of 4th and Main. The little 410 S. Main building is next to it on the right/south side, but the Alcazar has been demolished:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6498d3c2.jpg
LAPL -- http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics08/00013831.jpg

But in this photo, dated 1938, little 410 S. Main doesn't seem to be there, although it looks like there might be a fence in front of where it will be:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8a234c76.jpg
USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...d/20519/rec/11

The 1st b/w photo of the Alcazar that Beaudry posted is dated c. 1950 by the CA State Library. If that date is correct, then the USC photo above can't be 1938, because the Alcazar is missing.

Anyway, my hunch is that the building now at 410 S. Main is not a cut-down version of the three-story building formerly at that site, based primarily on the photo immediately above. Also, that earlier building -- the upper part, at least -- looks more like wood than brick, and the storefront in er's photos looks a little narrower than what's there now.

Horthos Aug 14, 2013 12:19 AM

Hey all, its been awhile...

I am somewhat surprised that there are no mentions of the recent Alexandria Hotel suicide, where a man jumped from (some say 4th, some say 3rd) floor and hit in front of the entrance on the Spring street side.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...witnesses.html

Yet another dark chapter in the never ending book that is the Alexandria.

bighen Aug 14, 2013 1:23 AM

Curries at the Coliseum Hotel
 
[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;6231589]Curries at the Coliseum Hotel.
http://imageshack.us/a/img41/7154/5q3f.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=5287

gemnewt, I bet your Aunt Rose stopped here for ice cream back in the day. :)
Maybe that's her, getting ready to cross the street with a friend.



I also bet Aunt Rose used the street cars to travel. Here is a picture from 1955 of a street car making the turn at Grand and Santa Barbara in the area that e_r described. Several lines shared the tracks so Aunt Rose could do her commuting. A great summary and map of the lines is at the source of this picture.

http://imageshack.us/a/img844/4095/62e7.jpg

Source: http://www.uncanny.net/~wetzel/lary.htm#map

Here is a street car traveling on Grand just north of the Hotel Coliseum next to the construction of the Harbor Freeway:

http://imageshack.us/a/img16/8574/mwxi.jpg

Source: USC

Krell58 Aug 14, 2013 2:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6227526)
Los Angeles/address unknown
http://imageshack.us/a/img209/2061/y2pg.jpg
ebay

Notice that the dandy man on the sign is missing in the second photograph.
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I wonder if he's gone because he was wearing a Zoot Suit?

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A talk about Bunker Hill, it has about five minutes of color photos at the end of it.

Video Link

RudyJK Aug 14, 2013 3:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6231614)
mystery slide

Wilshire fence/no date
http://imageshack.us/a/img543/677/oq2t.jpg
ebay

Anyone want to wager a guess?
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Could it be fencing showing the train stop on some city route? They will do repetitive typography to get the message to you no matter where you sit. :shrug:


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