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FredH Nov 30, 2016 5:18 AM

ER - The more I look at this photo and your floor plan of the house, I'm convinced that there is only one fountain.
I think the object in the red circle is the toilet, which you can see in the original fountain photo..

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...psj00sxn11.jpg

If this is correct (and allowing for the lack of doors in this place) you could be sitting at the breakfast table and have to look at someone taking a crap, (or something) in the bathroom.

"Gross Me Out" - as they used to say.

ethereal_reality Nov 30, 2016 5:25 AM

:previous:

Good deduction FredH.

They switched the plants on me ;) so I was confused.
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I went back and re-posted the floor plans. (I thought I might be over doing it)

Did you take in consideration there are two bathrooms?

ethereal_reality Nov 30, 2016 5:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HenryHuntington (Post 7637264)
But not just any winter storm: the following day, January 10, 1949.

My comment about the approaching storm was just an after-thought.

So imagine my surprise when you mentioned the 'Big Storm'.

I appreciate the information HH.
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BillinGlendaleCA Nov 30, 2016 10:23 AM

I've started using Metrolink(the commuter train here in LA) to get to Downtown and then the rail and buses(the Metrolink ticket allows unlimited transfers) to see and photograph things around town. As the train approaches Union Station I've seen this really nice brick building.

https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5617/3...9ae462ca_b.jpg

by Me, on Flickr

The building is obviously not new construction so I wondered what it's use was earlier in it 'life'. I've downloaded the 1921 Baists from U$C and I found the answer. At the location just north of Macy Street there are two buildings listed as 'School', one wood frame and the other brick south of the older building closer to Macy Street. The picture of the building above is the brick building, built in 1916. The wood frame building is the Macy Street School built in 1881.

https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5702/3...421c0671_b.jpg

LAUSD

Here's a look inside the front door:
https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5685/3...61a24c8f_b.jpg_B280003 by Me, on Flickr

The front part of the building doesn't currently have tenants, the back is the offices of Aladdin Bail Bonds(it's right next to the Men's Central Jail).

P.S. I'm up to page 710, I'm catching up to y'all.

ethereal_reality Nov 30, 2016 2:43 PM

:previous:
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 7637342)

Here's a look inside the front door:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5685/3...61a24c8f_b.jpg_B280003 by Me, on Flickr

Ah, a glimpse inside! I like the way you operate Bill. We need more feet on the ground! (my motto: keep snooping ;))

There's a very nice cartouche on this building.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/7JfEzs.jpg
gsv

I thought I'd point it out since we LOST four, count'em, four cartouches dating from 1917 just last week down on S. Flower Street! (see yesterday's posts)

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GaylordWilshire Nov 30, 2016 3:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7637196)
FredH, you're not going to believe this but I just discovered another one in the kitchen area!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/wr...092-h614-rw-no
Getty


While we're parsing the oddities of this house, there's another area where too much thought was expended on oddball styling and not enough on function and practicality...the stove is useless for much cooking beyond making coffee-- hardly any counterspace at all. JMHO

HossC Nov 30, 2016 4:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 7637342)

I've started using Metrolink(the commuter train here in LA) to get to Downtown and then the rail and buses(the Metrolink ticket allows unlimited transfers) to see and photograph things around town. As the train approaches Union Station I've seen this really nice brick building.

https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5617/3...9ae462ca_b.jpg

by Me, on Flickr

While looking for older pictures of BillinGlendaleCA's brick building, I found a great video (it's HD quality) in the USC Digital Library. The title is "R/W 4430 Union Station Ground Shots, 1935-1937". It's like an 80-year-old Googlemobile as the camera travels down Macy Street and pans around periodically giving 180 degree views. The film starts just across the street from the Kerckhoff-Cuzner Lumber Mill.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...reetVideo1.jpg

A junction has been added to the streetcar tracks to enable the loop on the right to be built. This is where the street now goes under the railroad tracks going into Union Station.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...reetVideo2.jpg

This shot fits on the right of the one above, and shows the famous trio of gasometers on the right.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...reetVideo3.jpg

Here's the wooden Macy Street School...

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...reetVideo4.jpg

...and the brick building next door.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...reetVideo5.jpg

This little store was on the triangle opposite the brick building.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...reetVideo6.jpg

Here's a close-up of the cutout Lion Head sign that can just be seen on the right of the image above.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...reetVideo7.jpg

Retracing our steps, here's the other end of the temporary loop with City Hall and the cleared site of Union Station behind.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...reetVideo8.jpg

The video finishes with a look down one of the neighboring residential streets.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...reetVideo9.jpg

All from USC Digital Library

CityBoyDoug Nov 30, 2016 6:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7637228)
Floor plans for Case Study House #21.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/OJjbfP.jpg
midcentury_homes

ER....You probably missed it but I already posted the floor plans on Page 1901.
Probably doing your various travels at that time....no problem. Here is my version again.

The blue parts are the various water pools. The house is basically surrounded by water.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psslkj57pd.jpg

BillinGlendaleCA Nov 30, 2016 7:43 PM

Quote:

Ah, a glimpse inside! I like how you work Bill. We need more feet on the ground! (my motto: keep snooping )
I just stuck my camera lens right on the glass of the front door. I'm happy to entertain requests for "now" pics.

CityBoyDoug Nov 30, 2016 8:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7637534)
While looking for older pictures of BillinGlendaleCA's brick building, I found a great video (it's HD quality) in the
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...reetVideo8.jpg

The video finishes with a look down one of the neighboring residential streets.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...reetVideo9.jpg

All from USC Digital Library

In the old pics we see so many people working by hand doing things that would be done with machines today in 2016.

Lomara Nov 30, 2016 9:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HenryHuntington (Post 7637264)
But not just any winter storm: the following day, January 10, 1949, would see one of the major snowfalls to affect the Greater Los Angeles area. More on these events here: http://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/c...-its-happened/

That storm wiped out a citrus producer in Downey that year. They took home movies of the snow.

https://flic.kr/p/abxzNN - the video caption says 1948, but it covers the winter of 48/49.

ETA: I should note the location of this ranch - 9554 Telegraph Road, Downey. https://goo.gl/maps/5k1NRSygrVs

https://www.flickr.com/photos/303997...57617659558203 - More photos and videos of the Red Barn Ranch

ethereal_reality Nov 30, 2016 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7637534)
I found a great video (it's HD quality) in the USC Digital Library. The title is "R/W 4430 Union Station Ground Shots, 1935-1937".

Hoss this video is AMAZING! Thanks for all the screengrabs.

If you don't mind, I thought I'd add a view more.


Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC

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:previous:

Here's the same store from an elevated vantage point.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/6wrUwd.jpg

I thought the photographer was standing on the maintenance truck with the elevated 'tower' (visible on the left in Hoss's screengrab),
but maintenance truck is pulling away in my screengrab. (did they leave him up on the utility pole? ;))







There's a nice looking bungalow at the end of this side street.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/QlvTKl.jpg

Does anyone know what building that is directly behind the bungalow? (the large one with the twin smokestacks)

And I think that's a shoe shine stand in front of the luncheonette.................................................................................:previous:

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Oh and here's one more: At one point a truck crosses in front of the camera.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/AVXDFK.jpg


It appears to belong to "Peviani's Meat & Groceries"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/JjmMb5.jpg
detail




In 1929 (a few yrs before the video) Angelo Peviani was running the Lone Star Public Market (with a Jos Ercole) at 643 N. Main St.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/43G4fS.jpg
lapl

And living with his wife Angelina at 464 N. Indiana.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/DOkhti.jpg


Here's what 464 N. Indiana looks like today.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/xv7fnI.jpg
gsv


And by 1934, Angelo's grocery business is at 654 1/2 N. Spring (& he's still living at 464 N. Indiana)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/BdX9fO.jpg
lapl

After that my trail goes cold.
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CityBoyDoug Nov 30, 2016 11:40 PM

Case Study House #21.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 7637482)
While we're parsing the oddities of this house, there's another area where too much thought was expended on oddball styling and not enough on function and practicality...the stove is useless for much cooking beyond making coffee-- hardly any counterspace at all. JMHO

The picture is not that clear but:
The stove appears to have 4 top burners, an oven and a broiler.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psbrvanruj.jpg
archdaily.com

Not sure a glass walled bathroom is a good idea. Maybe we can ''rethink'' that. Overall its not a kid friendly home.

HossC Nov 30, 2016 11:55 PM

I'm in the mood for some recreation, so I'm letting Julius Shulman provide it. This is "Job 2690: William Woolett, El Segundo Recreation Center (El Segundo, Calif.), 1958".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

There appears to be something industrial in the background.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

The final shot gives us our only view of the interior.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

Now known as the George E Gordon Recreation Clubhouse, you can find the large building at 300 E Pine Avenue. I could only get a view of the rear from the Googlemobile.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
GSV

This small image shows that the front is virtually unchanged.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ecreation5.jpg
www.elsegundo.org

ethereal_reality Dec 1, 2016 1:42 AM

Has anyone heard of Albert McFarland? [photograph is date 1892]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/nUBssV.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-1892-LO...UAAOSwB09YO3XR

If I'm not mistaken, "Crown Hills" was an area between downtown and Westside Side Park.



tovangar2 labeled this post 'Crown Hills, 1886-87'
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=33063

CityBoyDoug Dec 1, 2016 2:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7632582)
If you were reading this thread yesterday, the subject of today's Julius Shulman post won't be a surprise. It's "Job 2622: Case Study House No. 21 (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1958, 1959". There are 31 images in the set - 26 black & white and 5 color. I've had to take some tough decisions about which ones to leave out, but I've got it down to 12 images to give a flavor of what's available. You can always click the link at the bottom to see the rest. The address wasn't mentioned yesterday - it's 9038 Wonderland Park. Here's how it started out.


The shallow pools go around most of the house.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

From this side it looks more like shipping containers than a $4.5 million house :).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

The patio is on the south side.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original

I've avoided the views of the entrance which we saw yesterday. Here's a wider shot.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original

The kitchen is behind the wall on the left of the picture above.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original

I'd feel rather exposed in the bedroom!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...9.jpg~original

Now the color shots.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...0.jpg~original

The kitchen was cream with blue seats on the chairs.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

I'll finish with this photo. Like the bedroom, it doesn't look like there was much privacy in the bathroom.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

Let's consider the living room. That black couch at the right is not comfortable after about 10 minutes. I know that from my own experience.

As GW correctly states, the kitchen does woefully lack counter space. The shallow counter below the wall fridge is almost useless.

With few overhangs projecting from the windows, the sun will deeply penetrate the rooms. I would think that the only solution to that would be massive wall-to-wall, floor to ceiling drapes in all rooms. Otherwise its a house without privacy or even shade.

I do like the openness and clean lines of the home but the interior environment needs total control...otherwise the building is seriously bordering on the unlivable.

ethereal_reality Dec 1, 2016 2:11 AM

1898 Los Angeles High School Yearbook

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/xPVBrw.jpg
ebay



front page
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/W6n9UX.jpg

:previous: I can't quite place these two palms. Were they near school property?





http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/M7Wpes.jpg
eBay

Bicycle built for SIX!

More sample pages here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1898-LOS-ANG...QAAOSwNRdX3uO2
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This is a page from the 1892 book where I found the Albert McFarland, "Crown Hills" photo.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/922/XGkzWC.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-1892-LO...UAAOSwB09YO3XR

....and Rock Street? (I'm unfamiliar with that street) -it was probably renamed to something else, right?
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Earl Boebert Dec 1, 2016 4:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7638287)
Let's consider the living room. That black couch at the right is not comfortable after about 10 minutes. I know that from my own experience.

As GW correctly states, the kitchen does woefully lack counter space. The shallow counter below the wall fridge is almost useless.

With few overhangs projecting from the windows, the sun will deeply penetrate the rooms. I would think that the only solution to that would be massive wall-to-wall, floor to ceiling drapes in all rooms. Otherwise its a house without privacy or even shade.

I do like the openness and clean lines of the home but the interior environment needs total control...otherwise the building is seriously bordering on the unlivable.

Yes, if you look carefully at the shallow counter (the same problem we had with the wall hung fridge in our house) you'll note that there's barely room, if at all, for the toast to pop up out of the toaster.

Cheers,

Earl

ProphetM Dec 1, 2016 6:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7638292)
1898 Los Angeles High School Yearbook


This is a page from the 1892 book where I found the Albert McFarland, "Crown Hills" photo.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/922/XGkzWC.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-1892-LO...UAAOSwB09YO3XR

....and Rock Street? (I'm unfamiliar with that street) -it was probably renamed to something else, right?
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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ay...w1680-h1050-no

It took me a bit of work to get this as I had to put together two different pages of the 1910 Baist Map, at different scales and different angles, LOL. Rock Street became Fort Moore Place, and it seems that Castelar Street became Hill. At the top of the image you can see Castelar Street north of Sunset, and it lines up with the street that runs in front of the High School.

Beaudry Dec 1, 2016 7:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7638292)
1898 Los Angeles High School Yearbook
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/922/XGkzWC.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-1892-LO...UAAOSwB09YO3XR

....and Rock Street? (I'm unfamiliar with that street) -it was probably renamed to something else, right?
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Here's something I just found and had to add—one often sees pix of the High School on Ft Moore, but from far away (or covered with vines).

The HS, 1890, was by Jasper Newton Preston; the best you're going to get to him or this High School is through the later, similar Coconino County Courthouse.

One Mr Kent Kanouse has a HS set on Flickr, which include scans from old yearbooks. Two caught my eye as they show such great detail on the structure:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7106/1...9eed0aa9_z.jpg
https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7180/6...02334dd5_z.jpg

As in—
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5703/3...5057922a_o.png

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5681/3...5298cf59_o.png

Which thrills me to no end. So, thanks to Kent Kanouse! Also, check out this fascinating album about his old family pad at 808 S Dunsmuir. All sorts of little gems on his feed.


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