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ethereal_reality Mar 13, 2014 8:35 PM

Here's a rather surreal postcard for the Sands Motel at 5330 Imperial Boulevard.

They've placed people around the pool like it's the middle of day.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/577/fi8q.jpgebay
how much soda are those two girls going to drink??







Here's the motel in daylight/it's rather nice.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/713/c3y6.jpgebay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/836/umej.jpg

I'm not sure if it's still there or not/I found Imperial Highway but not Imperial Boulevard. (they're prob. one and the same)

Wenders Mar 13, 2014 8:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6492771)
Yowsah!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/834/7667.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/27/yt1h.jpgebay

I just noticed the trees behind the Carolina Pines Jr. look like pines.
I don't know trees, so I'm guessing they're pines) I wonder if they survive?


the Carolina Pines Jr. site today
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/545/ysyy.jpg

GSV




below: Across the street is this fine one story building with twelve count'em twelve miniature dormers. SE corner Melrose & Martel Avenue.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/545/k5ig.jpg
GSV
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Are sure about the location? I have a feeling we have discussed about this very same Carolina Pines restaurant before. I also remember seeing it in some book where the address was mentioned, placing the restaurant in corner of La Brea and Sunset Blvd. In that case, those pine trees are actually on Lanewood Avenue, and yes, they're still there. Lanewood runs between La Brea and N. Orange Dr. and the entire avenue (big word for such small street) is lined up with large pine trees.

Check out this view, notice the trees and how the landscape is rising behind the restaurant exactly like in the postcard:
http://tinyurl.com/ls5uv36
Also, search for "Carolina Pines Jr. on Sunset and La Brea" brings results supporting my theory.
The very last scene in movie "Frances" (Jessica Lange, playing Francis Farmer) was filmed on Lanewood. You can see the trees and Hollywood High across
the Orange Dr.
I lived on Lanewood in mid 90's. At the time Burger King occupied the spot where Carolina Pines restaurant used to stand, if I remember correctly.

Otis Criblecoblis Mar 13, 2014 8:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 6491559)
Me and my buddy went to every single Norms in 2008(they have built 2 more and got rid of one since i moved out here to texas). Our goal was to go to each one,have a meal,take a photo and see how long it took us...(22 hrs non stop, Management found out about us and filmed a short commercial of us)Anyways we were driving one day and came across this one,it was a Norms Charbroil...we still took a picture of it (along with a Norm(a)s near the airport). So for the record the last thing that this was,was a Norms Charbroil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3F1Z...share&index=48

This place was called Norm's, but it wasn't part of the Norms chain. We went there a few times with my uncle. Different menu, considerably inferior food.

HossC Mar 13, 2014 8:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wenders (Post 6492985)

Are sure about the location? I have a feeling we have discussed about this very same Carolina Pines restaurant before.

It was about 18 months ago.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5766363)

There were a couple of follow-up posts by BifRayRock:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8569

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8571

oldstuff Mar 13, 2014 8:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6492392)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-c...2520AM.bmp.jpgGlendale Public Library


Hadn't heard of this before...

From shallowsky.com:


"On the pedestal below her, it says:

HELP SAVE OUR TREES
THE FOREST IS THE MOTHER OF THE RIVERS


A small plaque below that says:

DEDICATED TO
THE AMERICAN GREEN CROSS
BY
GLENDALE CHAPTER No 1
MCMXXVIII


On the side of the pedestal, it says:

CONSERVE THE FORESTS
PREVENT EROSION —
RENEW SOIL FERTILITY
PERPETUATE THE LUMBER SUPPLY

The title of the work, as given on an even smaller plaque on the ground in front of the statue, is "Miss American Green Cross". Apparently it was created in 1928 by sculptor Frederick Willard Proctor, for an environmental group (although I don't usually think of "the lumber supply" being a prime concern of environmental groups).

The statue was first erected at Glendale High School in 1928. But she suffered some damage and abuse over the next few years, including being hit by a car. And then at some point in the early 1930s she disappeared. No one knew what had happened to her.

She wasn't officially rediscovered until 1954, when some hikers reported seeing it near the old Brand family cemetery, now part of Brand Park. She stood there for another three and a half decades, where she continued to be vandalized, acquiring scratches as well as graffiti, and eventually losing both arms.

Eventually, in 1990, after some debate over materials and methods, the city of Glendale restored the statue and moved it down the trail to its current location near Brand Library at the foot of the Brand Park hiking trails.

I've chuckled at this statue for years, whenever I visit Glendale and hike Brand Park. I still find her trapped legs, crucifixion motif, and pile of razed stumps creepy. But I must say that her history is a lot more interesting than I had imagined."


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-A...2520PM.bmp.jpghttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-K...2520PM.bmp.jpg
shallowsky.com

I remember her in during her "missing years". She was located just behind what is now the catch basin, north of the Brand Library, next to the reservoir. This was just below the Brand Pyramid tomb, which as Junior High and High School students we found irresistible as a place to visit. She was even creepier in those days, surrounded by ruins and somewhat worn without her arms.

oldstuff Mar 13, 2014 9:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6492548)
Interesting history of the 'Save Our Trees/Miss American Green Cross' memorial GaylordWilshire.
Reminds me a bit of our discussion of 'Chief Itchytoe'. Remember that one?




Here's a handsome Orangeade/Popcorn stand.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/845/vkud.jpg
old file of mine/probably ebay

The street number is visible, but I don't know what street. What's a bit odd is that the sidewalk looks like a boardwalk.
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Excellent images of Gilmore Stadium, Gilmore Field and Pan-Pacific Auditorium Chuckaluck.

A Google search of the name reveals that it was actually in Atlantic City, hence the boardwalk

ethereal_reality Mar 13, 2014 9:08 PM

:previous: Oh boy, I'm batting a 100 today. -I'm embarrassed. :duh:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wenders (Post 6492985)
Those pine trees are actually on Lanewood Avenue, and yes, they're still there. Lanewood runs between La Brea and N. Orange Dr. and the entire avenue (big word for such small street) is lined up with large pine trees.

Wenders, thanks for locating the 'missing' pines. Sorry about the confusion.

-so what was located at 7315 Melrose Avenue?
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320...0/834/7667.jpg

GaylordWilshire Mar 13, 2014 9:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6492834)
...so which airport is this?


It took me quite awhile to locate the plane and the parachuter. lol -let me know if you can't find the parachuter..I'll circle him.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X...minesaslax.jpg
dated 1929/ebay

I didn't realize at first that the dark diagonal lines were rows and rows of automobiles. -amazing!
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Look a little closer.

HossC Mar 13, 2014 9:14 PM

While we're talking about old baseball fields, have we seen this proposed expansion of Wrigley Field before?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...dPostcard1.jpg
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...dPostcard2.jpg
Ebay

ethereal_reality Mar 13, 2014 9:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6493048)
Look a little closer.

lol:laugh: I got all sweaty because I thought I had messed up again.

Were you able to find that teeny tiny parachutist?

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ethereal_reality Mar 13, 2014 10:08 PM

While searching Carolina Pines I found this Carolina-Hollywood Motel on La Brea.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/41/fwho.jpgebay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/842/mxw5.jpg

A Quality Inn is at this address today.

Flyingwedge Mar 13, 2014 10:45 PM

Looking SW from LA Courthouse, c. 1905
 
This is part of a panoramic photo. Across the center of the photo, right to left, we have the Highland Villa and its fan-shaped rooftop sign at the NW corner of 1st and Hill, then the El Moro (the part in front that looks like a house being the former Sale Mansion), the Moore-Cliff apparently being built, 133 S. Hill which came to be known as The Annex, and the last building with a staircase in front of it, the Hotel Locke.

In the upper left corner is the Crocker Mansion, the Angel's Flight Observation Tower, and either Sinai or Olivet. Below those, with its dome in front of the trees, at 209-11 S. Hill is the Hotel Lincoln. In the foreground left of center is the old Jail/Police Station (stone front & arched window) on 1st Street:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...c.jpg~original
USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../id/1227/rec/7

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...2.jpg~original
Los Angeles Then and Now (1897) @ Hathi Trust -- http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?i...ew=1up;seq=139

Priors on the Jail/Police Station:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7413
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7433

Police Station on 1906 Sanborn (Hill St. at top of map):
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...0.jpg~original
LAPL

Police Station, May 1955:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...5.jpg~original
Huntington Digital Library -- http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/7947/rec/13

August 10, 1956:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...2.jpg~original
Huntington Digital Library -- http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/7944/rec/22

Just links:
Wrecking the police station -- http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/7943/rec/25
Police station wrecked -- http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/7960/rec/27

Joe Vogel Mar 13, 2014 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5848453)
http://imageshack.us/a/img204/1619/l...iedbuildin.jpg
Taking a leaf from another book?

Another interesting Doctors' Office discovered while searching for :previous:. Source indicates "Los Angeles, Calif. : Mott Studios, [1937]" and author "Howard, Elwell G." No address. Can discern 4 digit street number but not much more.

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...6Y6VHLJQ9L.jpg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...NSYIG3L3PH.jpg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...PAH8MA2I93.jpg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...S1BN89QIST.jpg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...2V1YLKUN8H.jpg All from C.St.Lib

I'm a bit late to this, but I just stumbled across this page while searching for information about a particular architect, and I think the author "Howard, Elwell G." is probably him. If it is, his name was actually Howard George Elwell, and Mott Studios was not alone in butchering his name. Boxoffice Magazine did it, too, calling him "Howell Ewald." I unwittingly perpetuated the error on a page at Cinema Treasures. Elwell designed a theater called the El Rancho in Victorville, California, which was opened in 1950. I just discovered that the El Rancho was featured in the 1950-51 Theatre Catalog published by Jay Emanuel Publications, and the Catalog got his name right.

I haven't been able to find out much about him. Though he is mentioned in a lot of architecture periodicals found at Google Books and the Internet Archive, I haven't had time to look through them yet. He was active at least as early as 1916, and died in 1961. His listing in the AIA directory of 1956 had only his office address, 1200 W. Fifth St., Los Angeles, and no list of his works. A Google search on Howard G. Elwell turns up a few listings for houses in Pasadena and San Marino.

Hollywood Heritage had his 1959 Christian Science Church at 7107 Hollywood Boulevard on its Endangered List in 2012. So far, that's all I've got, but judging from the few buildings I've seen photos of he kept up with the times. The theater in Victorville was clearly Midcentury, and the Hollywood church is very much of its time as well. The doctor's office is quintessential '30s modern. I'd look forward to learning more about Elwell. There might be some unknown masterpieces of his design rotting out there.

Wenders Mar 13, 2014 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6493141)
While searching Carolina Pines I found this Carolina-Hollywood Motel on La Brea.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/41/fwho.jpgebay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/842/mxw5.jpg

A Quality Inn is at this address today.

Renovation took place around 95-97. Prior becoming Quality Inn, the name was already changed, but some of the mid-century look still remained.

Albany NY Mar 13, 2014 11:14 PM

Doppleganger?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6492392)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-c...2520AM.bmp.jpgGlendale Public Library


Hadn't heard of this before...

From shallowsky.com:


"On the pedestal below her, it says:

HELP SAVE OUR TREES
THE FOREST IS THE MOTHER OF THE RIVERS


A small plaque below that says:

DEDICATED TO
THE AMERICAN GREEN CROSS
BY
GLENDALE CHAPTER No 1
MCMXXVIII


On the side of the pedestal, it says:

CONSERVE THE FORESTS
PREVENT EROSION —
RENEW SOIL FERTILITY
PERPETUATE THE LUMBER SUPPLY

The title of the work, as given on an even smaller plaque on the ground in front of the statue, is "Miss American Green Cross". Apparently it was created in 1928 by sculptor Frederick Willard Proctor, for an environmental group (although I don't usually think of "the lumber supply" being a prime concern of environmental groups).

The statue was first erected at Glendale High School in 1928. But she suffered some damage and abuse over the next few years, including being hit by a car. And then at some point in the early 1930s she disappeared. No one knew what had happened to her.

She wasn't officially rediscovered until 1954, when some hikers reported seeing it near the old Brand family cemetery, now part of Brand Park. She stood there for another three and a half decades, where she continued to be vandalized, acquiring scratches as well as graffiti, and eventually losing both arms.

Eventually, in 1990, after some debate over materials and methods, the city of Glendale restored the statue and moved it down the trail to its current location near Brand Library at the foot of the Brand Park hiking trails.

I've chuckled at this statue for years, whenever I visit Glendale and hike Brand Park. I still find her trapped legs, crucifixion motif, and pile of razed stumps creepy. But I must say that her history is a lot more interesting than I had imagined."


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-A...2520PM.bmp.jpg
shallowsky.com

Could there have been more than one of these monuments produced? A close comparison of the older and newer photos shows that virtually every detail of the logs is different, as well as the placement and background of the text. In fact, even the text style is subtly different (look at the "S"). I'm wondering if Glendale commissioned a replacement monument as opposed to a restoration. Thoughts?

Chuckaluck Mar 13, 2014 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5112755)
General Dwight D. Eisenhower spoke to a crowd of 10,000 people at the Pan-Pacific Auditorium in 1952,
a month before being elected President of the United States.



http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/3...fic1952usc.jpg
ebay

President Truman used the nearby Gilmore Stadium venue for a '48 campaign address. Notice Pres. Reagan, Bogart and Bacall in attendance. (It is not known if Truman took a position regarding Monkey Island's whereabouts.)
http://i1.wp.com/carlanthonyonlinedo...size=560%2C302http://i1.wp.com/carlanthonyonlinedo...size=560%2C302

For more on Reagan's endorsement of Truman: http://carlanthonyonline.com/2012/06...ns-for-truman/


Television City Construction
http://www.cbstelevisioncity.com/wp-...on-01-copy.jpghttp://www.cbstelevisioncity.com/wp-...on-01-copy.jpg

'51
http://www.cbstelevisioncity.com/wp-...ir-03-copy.jpghttp://www.cbstelevisioncity.com/wp-...ir-03-copy.jpg

Lucy celebrates TV City
http://www.cbstelevisioncity.com/wp-...cy-02-copy.jpghttp://www.cbstelevisioncity.com/wp-...cy-02-copy.jpg

Nov. 15, 1952
http://www.cbstelevisioncity.com/wp-...on-01-copy.jpg
Paley, Burns, Allen and Benny - same date
http://www.cbstelevisioncity.com/wp-...on-10-copy.jpghttp://www.cbstelevisioncity.com/wp-...on-10-copy.jpg


Sept '56 Elvis does Sullivan Show from TV City
http://www.cbstelevisioncity.com/wp-...is-01-copy.jpg http://www.cbstelevisioncity.com/wp-...is-01-copy.jpg

June '60
http://www.cbstelevisioncity.com/wp-...ir-04-copy.jpghttp://www.cbstelevisioncity.com/wp-...ir-04-copy.jpg

______________________

Peripherally related to CBS

5939 Sunset - '33
http://www.cbstelevisioncity.com/wp-...-1933-copy.jpghttp://www.cbstelevisioncity.com/wp-...-1933-copy.jpg

Columbia Square - '45
http://www.cbstelevisioncity.com/wp-...re-02-copy.jpghttp://www.cbstelevisioncity.com/wp-...re-02-copy.jpg

1313 N Vine -
http://www.cbstelevisioncity.com/wp-...ne-02-copy.jpghttp://www.cbstelevisioncity.com/wp-...ne-02-copy.jpg

ethereal_reality Mar 13, 2014 11:28 PM

Here is another home by Locke & Munsell. I believe this is my favorite of theirs.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/607/gjz3.jpgebay

above: I really like how the chimney on the right disappears into the building before emerging from the roof.



detail
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/27/higr.jpg
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Tetsu, I meant to compliment earlier on your find in Lincoln Heights.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/585/4p5h.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/22/yrnx.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=20083

HossC Mar 13, 2014 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6492834)

It took me quite awhile to locate the plane and the parachutist. lol -let me know if you can't find the parachutist..I'll circle him.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/89/5voi.jpg
dated 1929/ebay

It looks like the pylon and circle are from the 1928 National Air Races:

Quote:

The awarding of the 1928 National Air Races to Los Angeles proved to be a deciding factor leading to the city’s selection of Mines Field as its future airport, Air races were immensely popular in the early years of aviation, and Mines pushed hard to get the 1928 races for Mines Field. - blogs.dailybreeze.com
The caption for the picture below says: "The 1928 National Air Races at Mines Field. Note the large crowd in the stands and the rows of parked cars behind and to the right. Photo is dated Sept. 15, 1928."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Fields1928.jpg
blogs.dailybreeze.com/Los Angeles World Airports

Martin Pal Mar 14, 2014 12:01 AM

Thanks for all the Gilmore related photos everyone! Now I know where they were situated. CBS Television City is basically on the site where Gilmore Stadium stood and Gilmore Field is where the Television City studio additions were built, where they tape American Idol and Dancing with the Stars, by the way. (Yes, they tape Fox and ABC shows at CBS Television City!)

I wish one or both of those sites were still there.

I was actually watching a "Hollywood" episode of I Love Lucy this week and because it's raining Fred laments that he can't go see the Hollywood Stars baseball team play (at Gilmore Field)! So it was still there in 1955, but gone by 1960. As has been noted, CBS Television City opened in 1952.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6492023)
Below I've labeled a 1948 aerial picture of the area. Gilmore Stadium mainly hosted football and midget car racing, while Gilmore Field was for baseball.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

All that's left today is the Farmers Market, although South Gilmore Lane acts as a reminder to the past.

I did not know that street was named Gilmore Lane. It runs through the Southern quarter of "The Grove", connecting Third Street and Farmer's Market Lane, and is basically used for deliveries or to connect to the parking garage at the end of Farmer's Market Lane. What looks to be a road in the middle of The Grove is actually a pedestrian walkway with a green trolley (on tracks) that intermittently winds it's way around the place. They have occasionally filmed scenes from Modern Family there.

Right near the Grove entrance and adjacent to the Farmer's Market, there is a small "historical" area with a gas pump and display cases filled with "Gilmore" memorabilia. There are photos of what used to be located all over this area (no aerials though). I assume it's still there, I haven't been in that area for some time, but when I used to go there alot I'd always take a minute or two to appreciate the exhibit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6492746)
Has anyone seen an aerial that includes a clear depiction of the "Gilmore" gas station (supposedly at Beverly and Fairfax)? Just read your response GW, so I know you're looking. ;) There have been images posted depicting a Standard station on the NE corner.

All 4 corners of Beverly and Fairfax have been posted in the last page or two and, unless it's those buildings right near Herbert's, it doesn't look like it's right on the corner.

In the postcard you posted:

…and in the following photo that HossC posted, I think it's likely the gas station is on the left side of the picture (below) almost halfway up the photo on Fairfax Avenue, closer to Third Street, running along the bottom, and the Farmer's Market.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6492586)


GaylordWilshire Mar 14, 2014 12:26 AM

:previous:


http://i.imgur.com/p9ndV9R.jpgjalopyjournal.com


While you were posting, I was amending my prior post by adding this shot of the Gilmore station at Beverly and Fairfax....


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