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CityBoyDoug Mar 12, 2014 8:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 6490114)
I don't think that looks like Oliver Hardy. What is the provenance of that photo?

Google his image and see what you think; here are a couple examples of a young Ollie:

http://travsd.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/larry.jpg
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/23...fbeeb538d5.jpg

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Thanks, W-W, and of course to your friend, too, for the info on the streetcar signal! I guess having the pole behind it painted (white?) helped the signal stand out better.

The ears and eyes don't match Oliver Hardy the actor. Its close but not a bulls-eye. That's my take on this. :cool::cool::cool:

WCArch Mar 12, 2014 8:38 PM

This might interest some of you. It has some a bunch of historic pics of downtown LA in different decades and showcases some of it's noir.

http://westcoastarch.blogspot.com/20...l?view=classic

Also, i dont know if this has been posted before, but i found it interesting that this went for $20 a month, and in 1946 was $70 per the LA Times, 5-7-46. This house stood roughly where the Walt Disney Concert Hall stands now. I apologize if it is a repeat.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...owerSt1946.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...owerSt1946.jpg

GaylordWilshire Mar 12, 2014 9:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6490947)
GW, I'll add this photograph to your Barbara LaMarr funeral photos.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/38/sjaa.jpgebay


I realize now that I was confused by the various funeral parlors near the corner of Washington and Bonsallo. I knew there was Walter C. Blue from the pics of Barbara LaMarr's funeral, and then you showed us Reed Brothers next door to that. It turns out that these businesses (717 and 721 W Washington) were across the street from what is now the Iglesia Gethsemene...and which was once an operation of the Pierce Brothers--I found my old post on the other vintage celebrity funeral:


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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5502438)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-h...2520AM.bmp.jpgLAPL


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics06/00012997.jpg
LAPL

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-S...iercegsv75.jpgGoogle Street View


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics06/00012996.jpgLAPL

Thelma Todd lying in state on December 19, 1935, at Pierce Brothers. The open gold casket was lined with orchid satin, and her hair was arranged in big blond curls the way she liked it, according to the LAPL


HossC Mar 12, 2014 9:13 PM

I've lightened the poster on the right in an attempt to make it more readable. I'm pretty sure it says "FREE" and "GAYLORD" on the left - could it be "FREE LECTURES" by "GAYLORD WILSHIRE"?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...reeGaylord.jpg
Detail of ebay image originally posted by ethereal_reality

GaylordWilshire Mar 12, 2014 9:29 PM

:previous:

As I recall, I was lecturing about the many benefits of my famed I-ON-A-CO belt at the time. (Btw, I died just the year after Miss LaMarr.)


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6...2520PM.bmp.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-i...2520PM.bmp.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-S...2520PM.bmp.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-A...2520PM.bmp.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-r...2520PM.bmp.jpgLA Times Feb 4, 1926

ethereal_reality Mar 12, 2014 9:30 PM

:previous: lol GW.
By the way, excellent blog WCArch. -good job.





classic motel design 1950s, 1960s
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/543/f5nt.jpgebay


the motel today/not so classic
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/19/cvvc.jpgGSV


vintage info.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/34/vo42.jpg

ethereal_reality Mar 12, 2014 9:33 PM

Here's a nice little Van de Kamp's Bakery and a Ralph's. Location unknown.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/713/oc59.jpgebay

GaylordWilshire Mar 12, 2014 11:11 PM

:previous:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-S...2520PM.bmp.jpgGSV

ER: I found that there's still a Ralphs at 1416 East Colorado--and the tip of the hill in this shot seemed to match the one in your shot.


Then I found this listing in the 1955 Glendale phone book--1400 East Colorado is at the southeast corner of Verdugo Road.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2...mp1400colo.jpg


The Deco Van de Kamps is gone, but caddy-corner is this gem:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_...2520PM.bmp.jpgGSV

Anyone know what this started out as?

ethereal_reality Mar 12, 2014 11:38 PM

:previous: Good job finding the location of my slide GW. I'm impressed.
I love that art deco ABM Pharmacy building.

GaylordWilshire Mar 13, 2014 12:02 AM

:previous:


http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics21/00060329.jpgLAPL

Per the LAPL: "Exterior view of a Van de Kamp's Bakery on a corner of Verdugo Road.... Workers are assembling the windmill on top. A sign in the window says the bakery will be closed Saturday, May 28."

This appears to be the dis-assembly of the windmill... I wonder if instead of "will be closed" the sign says "will close"--as in "for good."


http://jpg1.lapl.org/00104/00104391.jpgLAPL

Under the tree, the windmill closer to when it was built.


And here's an interesting shot from USC:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p...2520PM.bmp.jpgUSCDL

"House moving problem, 3 January 1958. House that was being moved broke down and blocked traffic at Verdugo Boulevard and Colorado Boulevard."

Looks like there was yet another Deco building at the intersection.

ethereal_reality Mar 13, 2014 1:19 AM

There's a Van de Kamp survivor (although of a later era) at E. Huntington Drive & Santa Anita Avenue in Arcadia.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/802/g66m.jpg




now a Denny's
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/401/iszl.jpgGSV



It looks as if there are light bulbs on the blades. I wonder if the blades still rotate?
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/809/a6nn.jpgGSv




It has fared better than this one at 11012 Firestone Blvd. in Norwalk.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/203/ze2g.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ozfan22...2885/lightbox/





and this sad example in Houck AZ.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/823/lda5.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29276830@N02/7103680109/

I believe these examples are by the architect Harold Bissner (he worked for Van de Kamp's in the 1960s)

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Martin Pal Mar 13, 2014 1:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6489488)
Just as I was finishing this post I found this Getty Image (also dated 1953) showing the sculptured front lawn. (and Gilmore Stadium)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/843/yoqh.jpg
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/ne...hoto/151236440
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Nice series!

Doesn't that say Gilmore "Field" on the adjacent structure? It's my understanding that there was a Gilmore Field AND a Gilmore Stadium, but I've never been sure where they were each located, except in the Fairfax/Beverly area, and what each was used for.
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Also, I'm siding with those who think that eBay photo does look like Oliver Hardy.

Tetsu Mar 13, 2014 1:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6489763)

Two really outstanding houses! I can definitely see the comparison to early, pre-Craftsman Greene & Greene work. I've heard it said the Shingle style was inexplicably popular in Pasadena (it was mainly an east coast style), supposedly because of the large number of well-to-do folks moving from back east. The Shingle style was thought of as a "high architecture" style because its relative simplicity didn't translate well to lower budget construction. (Have a look at the end of page 15 & the start of page 16 of this document for more info)

Joseph Blick was a Pasadena-based architect and many of his works still remain. He did the Pasadena Star News Building which still stands on Colorado Boulevard, the Scottish Rite Cathedral nearby, and the Post House at 360 S. Grand Avenue (down the street from the current Shakespeare Club), which clearly came from the same era as the two houses e_r shared:

http://www.archiref.com/sites/all/fi...1373067930.jpgMichael Locke Flickr

ProphetM Mar 13, 2014 1:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6491242)

The Deco Van de Kamps is gone, but caddy-corner is this gem:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_...2520PM.bmp.jpgGSV

Anyone know what this started out as?

I posted a pic of this place back on page 432, in July 2012:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...36#post5773436

I had driven by it the previous September.

It has a 1922 build date according to county records and I linked a couple of vintage pictures from the Glendale library, with businesses named Henry's Malt Shop (date unknown) and Brown Owl Ice Cream (late 1940s). Those Flickr links are dead but maybe the Glendale library has put them somewhere else.

I asked if anyone had any other information and was met with chirping crickets - 0 responses. I feel a strange kinship with the building as it seems we both toil in obscurity. ;)

I will see if I can track down the vintage pictures again since the old links are dead.

ethereal_reality Mar 13, 2014 1:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 6491463)
I asked if anyone had any other information and was met with chirping crickets - 0 responses.

Believe me, that has happens to all of us at one time or another ProphetM.
I hope you can locate the missing images.
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Martin_Pal, you are correct. I mislabeled Gilmore Field as Gilmore Stadium. (they were two separate entities)
Perhaps HossC can dig up a vintage aerial.

unihikid Mar 13, 2014 2:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6491429)
There's a Van de Kamp survivor (although of a later era) at E. Huntington Drive & Santa Anita Avenue in Arcadia.
[URL=https://imageshack.com/i/mag66mj]http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/802/g66m.jpg[/URL






It has fared better than this one at 11012 Firestone Blvd. in Norwalk.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/203/ze2g.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ozfan22...2885/lightbox/







I believe these examples are by the architect Harold Bissner (he worked for Van de Kamp's in the 1960s)

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Me and my buddy went to every single Norms in 2008(they have built 2 more and got rid of one since i moved out here to texas). Our goal was to go to each one,have a meal,take a photo and see how long it took us...(22 hrs non stop, Management found out about us and filmed a short commercial of us)Anyways we were driving one day and came across this one,it was a Norms Charbroil...we still took a picture of it (along with a Norm(a)s near the airport). So for the record the last thing that this was,was a Norms Charbroil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3F1Z...share&index=48

FredH Mar 13, 2014 3:31 AM

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps2d6fbb1b.jpg
L.A. Times

Deauville Beach Club burns down in 1964 fire
Posted By: Scott Harrison
Posted On: 12:18 a.m. | February 28, 2014
April 5, 1964: The Deauville Beach Club on Pacific Coast Highway in Santa Monica goes up in flames.

A front-page story in the April 6, 1964, Los Angeles Times reported:

The Deauville Beach Club, famed Santa Monica oceanfront landmark, was destroyed Sunday afternoon in a spectacular, wind-whipped fire touched off by an unidentified arsonist.

Acting Santa Monica Fire Chief William C. McDade said blazes were burning in five separate spots in the three-story, fortress-like building when firemen arrived.

And Santa Monica police reported they chased three juveniles from the unoccupied structure Sunday morning.

The youths may have been part of a group of 20 boys and girls that was seen entering the building less than three hours before the blaze erupted, police said.

For more than two hours, flames roared uncontrolled through the building on Pacific Coast Highway at the foot of Olympic Boulevard standing aloft a thick column of smoke that was visible for miles.

The smoke acted as a magnet to draw thousands of spectators to the scene. About 30 Santa Monica policemen and some reserve officers struggled to keep the street clear of onlookers. …

A telephone call to the Santa Monica Fire Department at 3:20 p.m. brought the first fire units — two pumpers, a ladder truck and a rescue unit — to the scene. Later, other equipment from Los Angeles and Culver City was dispatched.

In all, about 65 men fought the flames that left only the reinforced concrete walls of the building standing. …

Police said arsonists set one of the five blazes by igniting shellac that had been poured over tables and chairs. Blazes were also touched off in the basement, attic and in the dance floor area.

The gray building with a row of huge bay windows on the the ocean front housed a huge dance floor, a mirrored hallway, several bars and a kitchen. It also had an indoor swimming pool as well as an outdoor one…

The building was once a playground for film stars. Air Force personnel were housed there for six months during World War II.

The aerial photo by retired staff photographer George Fry was taken from a KMPC helicopter piloted by Max Schumacher. It was published on Page 1 of the April 6, 1964, Los Angeles Times.

The April 7, 1964, Los Angeles Times reported that two runaway juveniles were questioned about the fire. I was not able to locate any information about whether anyone was ever charged or convicted in the blaze. The building remains were demolished in 1966. The city of Santa Monica purchased the land in 1970.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps06556945.jpg
The Deauville Beach Club on Santa Monica Beach is shown in 1951. Credit: Los Angeles Times

Retired_in_Texas Mar 13, 2014 4:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6491086)
Here's a nice little Van de Kamp's Bakery and a Ralph's. Location unknown.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/713/oc59.jpgebay

Had to do a triple double take when I first saw this image. The general design of the building was apparently copiedby a Fort Worth seafood restaurant chain, that was founded in 1957, when in the 1970s they decided to go into competition with the various fast food seafood restaurants that were cropping up all over the place. The name of the chain was Zuider Zee. By the 1980s the chain had been ran into the ground after the founders had sold it to a holding company that had several other restaurant brands they also ran into the ground. Was a shame as the Zuider Zee restaurants had the best Hush Puppies one could imagine as well as a really fantastic seafood menu.

WCArch Mar 13, 2014 4:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6491082)
:previous: lol GW.
By the way, excellent blog WCArch. -good job.

Thank you very much! I will post Part II hopefully next week :D

CityBoyDoug Mar 13, 2014 6:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6491082)
:previous: lol GW.
By the way, excellent blog WCArch. -good job.





classic motel design 1950s, 1960s
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/543/f5nt.jpgebay


The above photo of the motel is hilarious. The middle class motel being surrounded with conspicuous high-end Cadillacs is a mixed match if I ever saw one. People driving a Cadillac would more than likely be lodging at the upscale Ambassador or Beverly Wilshire hotels. The Cadillacs nesting at this déclassé location give the impression that the motel was a hangout for hoods and mobsters.

A couple of Chevys or Oldsmobiles would have been more appropriate in my humble opinion. Having worked in advertising, I do understand the impression they were trying to create but they actually created the wrong impression.
:D:cool::rolleyes:


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