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electricron Nov 20, 2014 4:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 6807588)
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/br...114-story.html

I cannot not believe this. Remember what happened in a few weeks ago and now this. That's not good! He can't be go around the trains tracks. He have stay away from the tracks. He's breaking the law. Cypress Creek station is closed until the further notice. There is 250 passengers is waiting for the trains.

Are you aware that TriRail and All Aboard Florida are two entirely different operations?

bobdreamz Nov 20, 2014 4:13 AM

AAF plans Miami "Supertower", proposal calls for 1,120 feet tower
 
All Aboard Florida has been calling one of the planned towers at MiamiCentral a ‘supertower,’ and it could could become one of the tallest buildings in the country.

According to a recent filing with the FAA, All Aboard Florida wants to build the tower as high as 1,120 feet above ground (or 1,131 above sea level). That would make it taller than any building that exists or is under construction in the U.S., outside of New York and Chicago.

It also won’t be the only tall tower at MiamiCentral. At least one other high rise at the site is proposed to rise to 840 feet above ground.

Site work is already underway at MiamiCentral and the first phase will begin full construction soon.

The tower at MiamiCentral is one of several that are vying to break the 1,000-foot mark in Miami. The FAA has been reviewing a tower at Brickell City Centre that is proposed to rise 1,040 feet above ground for over a year (Swire has already reduced the height from initial plans that exceeded 1,100 feet).

http://i.imgur.com/ogDuZbY.jpg

Link: http://www.thenextmiami.com/index.ph...e-tallest-u-s/

bobdreamz Nov 20, 2014 4:32 AM

Site work begins at Miami Central station
 
Site Work Underway At All Aboard Florida’s Miami Central Terminal In Downtown Miami
By TNM Staff on November 5, 2014

Heavy equipment rolled on to the Miami Central site yesterday to begin prep work for the CBD’s most important project in decades.

Miami Centrals’ first phase will add 178,000 square feet of retail space to the area, including a supermarket (see leasing plans below).

Banners placed around the property say that the project, which will serve as a terminal for All Aboard Florida’s rail line to Orlando, is ‘arriving’ in 2016.

The Miami-West Palm Beach portion of the project is fully funded. Work recently began on the Ft. Lauderdale station.

http://i.imgur.com/i1AdtGM.jpg

^ Metrorail & Metromover tracks pass by one of the blocks where site work has commenced.

http://i.imgur.com/b1eaZxW.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BDerPe1.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/y3GYL1e.jpg

http://www.thenextmiami.com/index.ph...comment-393634

Jasonhouse Nov 20, 2014 5:12 AM

Yay!!!

Eightball Nov 20, 2014 6:02 PM

Very cool!

Prahaboheme Nov 21, 2014 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eleven=11 (Post 6774179)
waiting for the Orlando Airport Station design and construction
maybe a hotel next to the train station & garage......

is the Miami station started??

Here is the current design for the OIA Intermodal Station:
http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2f13c603.png


http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5e623cf4.png
The expansion airport terminal will be built around the intermodal station, which may include an additional hotel.

The Intermodal Station will have the following connections:
All Aboard Florida
SunRail - Orlando's Commuter Rail train system which will have a new link directly to the airport
The Airport People Mover (between terminals)
Maglev (connecting the airport to International Drive) - believe this one when you see it...

Hatman Nov 22, 2014 1:37 AM

Wow. that OIA intermodal station certainly exceeded my expectations. I like the wide platforms and the tall, wide canopy structure with skylights.

I've forgotten how the arrangement at that station will work... AAF will own a waiting lounge and... will they also own their own platforms? If not, how will they resolve the high-platform level-boarding issue?

Also, great to see work starting in Miami!

N830MH Nov 22, 2014 5:00 AM

Sigh...Finally!!! Long overdue!!!!! :tup::tup:

eleven=11 Nov 23, 2014 9:21 AM

nice update on the Orlando Airport.....
what tracks are SunRail and AAF????

Prahaboheme Nov 23, 2014 6:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatman (Post 6817021)
Wow. that OIA intermodal station certainly exceeded my expectations. I like the wide platforms and the tall, wide canopy structure with skylights.

I've forgotten how the arrangement at that station will work... AAF will own a waiting lounge and... will they also own their own platforms? If not, how will they resolve the high-platform level-boarding issue?

Also, great to see work starting in Miami!

AAF will be renting platforms from GOAA (Greater Orlando Airport Administration) who will own and manage the Intermodal Station at OIA.

Here is a great fly-through simulation of the Orlando station:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH3_...ature=youtu.be

Hatman Nov 24, 2014 4:32 AM

Okay, got it. AAF will lease the platform and two tracks, with the other two tracks going to SunRail. It looks from the video that the platform meant for AAF will be a high platform and the other (SunRail) will be a lower platform, so that both types of boarding height can be accomodated. It struck me as odd at first that the airport would build and lease a piece of infrastucture that was so specific (AAF will be the only intercity rail service in Florida using/requiring high-level platforms, to my knowledge). But I guess that may not be necessarily true in the future.
Regardless of my initial confusion, this looks like a good project.
...Though I still kinda wish AAF were able to go to downtown Orlando as well. What would it take for trains, after stopping at OIA, to continue on the Sunrail corridor to, say, the Orlando Amtrak station? (or any other centralized location near downtown?) Besides trackage rights, there would need to be a new high platform constructed on a new siding track, which isn't that hard to do... Just sayin'.

eleven=11 Nov 26, 2014 9:58 PM

http://www.goldenduskphotography.com...oard%20Florida


nice photos from Nov 24th

eleven=11 Dec 8, 2014 4:28 AM

anybody seen the NEW pics of the WPB station???

eleven=11 Dec 10, 2014 10:56 PM

more stuff on Tri-rail/AAF very good info thou
stupid politicians.
http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/...tomypbp_launch

Hatman Dec 11, 2014 12:13 AM

http://mt1.miamitoday.netdna-cdn.com...florida-4c.jpg

Sorry for the size of the picture - it isn't mine. I pulled it off of the Miami Today news article below:

Miami Today, All Aboard Florida revises station planshttp://www.miamitodaynews.com/2014/1...station-plans/

It looks like they are planning to build two AAF platforms, two Tri-rail platforms, and one that could possibly be used as either in the middle. It has a high platform on the AAF side, though I can't tell if that is meant to be a low platform on the other.

Also, TRAINS magazing recently ran a story on the Florida East Coast Railway, and had this little snippet to say about AAF
Quote:

"You can keep cajoling Micheal Reininger, All Aboard Florida's president, about the viability of the enterprise, but he's unperturbed. Most passenger train systems, he says, are designed to attract the most riders at the lowest cost and are therefore destined to require subsidy. All Aboard Florida is designed to make money by actracting enough people at a profitable ticket price and to provide a return on that investment to the company."
The idea being that when they started calculating if such a business could make money or not, they started at the ticket price and worked backward from there, not with ridership estimates. I think that is a useful model to follow for any other potential corridor where a premium private passenger train might be viable.

eleven=11 Dec 11, 2014 3:35 AM

I read that Miami Today article about the NEW pics of AAF miami station
but nothing is new ..... seems same as before

eleven=11 Dec 11, 2014 6:17 AM

new link for OIA orlando airport expansion
anybody know a better website for airport news??
http://media.bizj.us/view/img/4581801/goaa122014.pdf

eleven=11 Dec 16, 2014 1:03 PM

http://www.thenextmiami.com/index.ph...-now-reviewed/
great article with good pics, but still dont know whats really newish.

M II A II R II K Dec 25, 2014 8:50 PM

Feds give All Aboard OK to issue $1.75 billion in tax-exempt bonds

Read More: http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/...#__federated=1

Quote:

The U.S. Department of Transportation has provisionally approved $1.75 billion in private activity bonds for All Aboard Florida, an unprecedented amount and a move that reduces a major financial obstacle for the express passenger rail line.

- A final approval for the bonds is conditional on All Aboard Florida completing an environmental review process which closed for public comment earlier this month. If granted, it would be the largest amount of private activity bonds awarded any single entity.

- “This authority enables All Aboard Florida to borrow funds necessary to complete their project from private investors at no risk to taxpayers,” a statement released Monday by the Department of Transportation said. “Liability for full repayment of bonds sold rests exclusively with All Aboard Florida and its subsidiaries.”

- While the provisional approval is a step closer to project completion, All Aboard Florida must still abide by results of the environmental impact report, which is under review by the Federal Railroad Administration. It also faces scrutiny by the Coast Guard, which oversees waterways blocked by aging FEC drawbridges when trains go over.

- “If All Aboard Florida does not comply with the conditions of the allocation, DOT reserves the right to pursue every remedy, including withdrawing the allocated tax-exempt authority,” DOT said. --- There has been $15 billion set aside at the federal level for private activity bonds. As of Sept. 17, the U.S. Department of Transportation has issued $4.8 billion for 13 projects. Another $5.4 billion has been allocated for seven projects. None of the projects is in Florida.

- Private activity bonds are not without critics. Because they are tax-exempt, some groups have complained they amount to a government subsidy because they eliminate money that would have gone into federal coffers.

.....

chris08876 Dec 29, 2014 3:08 PM

East-west passenger rail for Miami?

Quote:

In an effort to alleviate traffic in the county, a Miami-Dade transportation planning organization is looking into whether existing freight tracks could be used for a future passenger train.

The Metropolitan Planning Organization (MPO) is studying whether passenger trains could run on existing CSX freight tracks that run east-west in Central Miami-Dade.

The MPO board, comprised of county and municipal elected officials, OK’d the study to move forward at its meeting last Thursday.

“The idea is to allow the folks in the western part of the county to have an alternative,” said County Commissioner Juan Zapata, an MPO board member who sponsored the initiative for the study. “I think the study would be able to shed a light on the feasibility and, again, looking at all these different assets, being able to have a much more comprehensive solution to the traffic problems out in the western part of the county.”

The study would look at the feasibility of reactivating the CSX line, which runs more or less parallel to Northwest 12th Street, from Northwest 37th Avenue west to 137th Avenue, county records show.

The eastern portion of the track is just south of Miami International Airport and runs parallel to the Dolphin Expressway. It ends at the existing Miami Intermodal Center, a transportation hub just east of the airport where Metrorail, Tri-Rail and buses stop.

The idea of using existing freight tracks, either operating or inactive, to run passenger trains isn’t new.

[...]
http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs...30.13%20PM.jpg
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http://www.miamitodaynews.com/2014/1...er-rail-miami/

N830MH Dec 29, 2014 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 6858355)
East-west passenger rail for Miami?



http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs...30.13%20PM.jpg
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http://www.miamitodaynews.com/2014/1...er-rail-miami/

Don't we know about metrorail extended from MIA Airport station to FIU or Miami International Mall? Will they consider it? I am pretty sure that they will considering the east-west projects. How much the time when they will be approved?

chris08876 Dec 30, 2014 12:27 AM

We'll have to wait until the study is finished, and look at the conclusions/recommendations from there along with what they considered as cofactors in the study. Usually it will be a lengthy pdf listing all of these variables. Theres an economic component to this, so if it plays out right, something like this may become a reality. For now, I would classify this as a vision.

N830MH Dec 30, 2014 1:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 6858833)
We'll have to wait until the study is finished, and look at the conclusions/recommendations from there along with what they considered as cofactors in the study. Usually it will be a lengthy pdf listing all of these variables. Theres an economic component to this, so if it plays out right, something like this may become a reality. For now, I would classify this as a vision.

Right! What about northbound projects from Martin Luther King Jr. station? Will they extended to Sun Life Stadium or further north to Broward County?

eleven=11 Jan 2, 2015 7:44 PM

http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/...ose-for-all-a/

they should build a bridge across eastward......
the property looks empty/vacant ready for something new
hotel/office/condos

eleven=11 Jan 2, 2015 8:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 6858905)
Right! What about northbound projects from Martin Luther King Jr. station? Will they extended to Sun Life Stadium or further north to Broward County?

dont know about that, but that airport extension makes sense
should go to the Dolphin Mall except for small problem
the new MIA airport station is a dead end I think
the trains have to back out before turning westward
anybody know about when the new Metro trains arrive
its 2015 now, new trains this year......

bobdreamz Jan 2, 2015 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 6858905)
Right! What about northbound projects from Martin Luther King Jr. station? Will they extended to Sun Life Stadium or further north to Broward County?

The North Corridor Metrorail extension to the Dolphins Stadium / Broward County Line you speak of has been dead for years. Even though the county owns the right of way for the 9.5 mile extension & all environmental studies are complete the Feds won't fund it since they consider it to be a "medium-low density" corridor.
Makes no sense to me at all.

Eightball Jan 3, 2015 1:35 AM

With the massive amount of high rise construction, how come Miami doesn't have the money to finance all of the proposed transit projects (Bay link LR, MetroRail extensions, MetroMover extensions, more substantial TriRail improvements)?

202_Cyclist Jan 3, 2015 1:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eightball (Post 6862187)
With the massive amount of high rise construction, how come Miami doesn't have the money to finance all of the proposed transit projects (Bay link LR, MetroRail extensions, MetroMover extensions, more substantial TriRail improvements)?

The Washington Post had an article about this last week. Miami is investing in a drainage system to deal with the rising sea-levels that will result from global warming.

bobdreamz Jan 3, 2015 2:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eightball (Post 6862187)
With the massive amount of high rise construction, how come Miami doesn't have the money to finance all of the proposed transit projects (Bay link LR, MetroRail extensions, MetroMover extensions, more substantial TriRail improvements)?

Miami Dade County has had a dedicated 1/2 cent transit sales tax since 2003. Miami Dade Transit was so behind in 'Maintenance Operations" for so long that they had to divert funds from the 1/2 cent tax to refurbish the Metromover cars & order new Metrorail cars to the tune of over $300 million dollars which are due some time this year.

Remember that our Metrorail cars are the same as Baltimore's made by the BUDD Company which no longer exists & are over 30 years old. Developers do not fund transit projects that I know of! About the only only one that is refurbishing a Metromover station is Swire Properties who is building the massive Brickell Citi Center that runs right through the property at their expense.

Also the Airport link that opened to the new Inter-Modal Center next to MIA cost $503 million dollars for 3.5 miles of rail that was paid for through the local sales tax & the state of Florida which only contributed 20% of the cost. No Federal funds were involved. The amount of Metrorail expansions was supposed to bring the system up to 88 miles from it's current 25.5 miles with a eventual coast of $17 Billion over 25+ years.

What is disheartining about this is that the county already owns the ROW's & had had EIS's on over 30 miles of their proposed expansions.

Baylink alone running at surface from downtown Miami to South Beach is projected to cost well at over half a billion dollars to cross 5 miles over Biscayne Bay and even then portions have to be elevated.

As for Tri-Rail? Governor Rick Scott has told them that he is not renewing state funds after the current agreement expires with the state in 2017. This is what we have to deal with having a Puke Governor who rejected $2 Billion dollars for HSR.

Meanwhile Dallas' DART can build LRT's stations in the middle of nowhere and still get Federal funding. Amazing.

eleven=11 Jan 3, 2015 11:26 AM

is there a update on how Gov Rick "puke" Scott is gonna effect the
downtown Miami All Aboard Station and the Tri-Rail expansion??

Lakelander Jan 4, 2015 2:45 AM

Scott likes AAF, so it should move forward just fine.

Dale Jan 4, 2015 3:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lakelander (Post 6862951)
Scott likes AAF, so it should move forward just fine.

That's one thing SSP forumers can't beat up on Scott about.;)

N830MH Jan 4, 2015 4:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eleven=11 (Post 6861881)
http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/...ose-for-all-a/

they should build a bridge across eastward......
the property looks empty/vacant ready for something new
hotel/office/condos

Sorry man, I can't read the news article, but it does not found.

eleven=11 Jan 4, 2015 6:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lakelander (Post 6862951)
Scott likes AAF, so it should move forward just fine.

The Construction of the AAF Miami Station includes plans
for Tri-Rail. More people from north dade and broward
will use tri-rail instead of AAF to go to downtown miami.
The new tracks switch over at pompano beach to the old
tracks near I95.
If a concert or Heat game or whatever happens
remember that AAF only has 16 northbound trains total
you need the extra tri-rail trains to move more people
plus the new tri-rail stations besides the downtown Ft lauderdale station

Lakelander Jan 5, 2015 12:42 PM

Yes, the construction of AAF will increase capacity along the FEC corridor, which should benefit future Tri-Rail, Amtrak and JTA plans along this corridor. However, the other entities will still have to pony up the cash to make their specific plans a reality.

eleven=11 Jan 13, 2015 1:58 AM

cant wait for construction photos

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/br...112-story.html

hope the link works. anybody got photos of Miami station?

chris08876 Jan 14, 2015 8:00 PM

ABF will have its meeting for Miami Central on January 22. If they vote for it, the committee, permitting could commence.

http://i.imgur.com/6ltFiC9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6ltFiC9.jpg

eleven=11 Jan 22, 2015 4:47 AM

construction starts or something
http://www.bizjournals.com/southflor...ontractor.html

also i think miami votes/approves the central station
thursday

eleven=11 Jan 23, 2015 9:41 PM

palm beach transit village
i think actually closer to the tri-rail station
then the new AAF station, but this whole area in 2 years
will be great
http://westpalmbeat.blog.palmbeachpo...train-station/

eleven=11 Jan 26, 2015 1:51 AM

good link/article for transit news
http://www.goldenduskphotography.com...-in-miami-dade

Hatman Jan 27, 2015 6:10 PM

All Aboard Florida to move “as quickly as possible” to Tampa, Jax, editor says
(Link)

eleven=11 Jan 28, 2015 3:37 AM

good news about Jacksonville, but I think most of us saw this coming.
they just need a new/improved convention center next to the train station.
also there is lots of empty parking lots nearby ready for development.

about the WPB station , it needs a bridge across US1.
http://realtime.blog.palmbeachpost.c...-for-millions/

eleven=11 Jan 28, 2015 11:23 PM

http://www.thenextmiami.com/index.ph...ithin-45-days/

eleven=11 Jan 29, 2015 1:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eleven=11 (Post 6889409)

anybody know how to post this link from the miami herald
i cant access it

bobdreamz Jan 29, 2015 4:23 PM

^ The Herald article opened fine for me even though it has nothing to do with All Aboard Florida.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...le7963932.html

ANyways ,if it still doesn't open, right click on the link above & choose open in Incognito window.

Hatman Jan 29, 2015 4:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eleven=11 (Post 6893608)

Fantastic news! This means in 45 days someone had better post some pictures on this thread - because there will be no more excuses!

N830MH Jan 31, 2015 5:26 AM

5 finalists where chosen to design "The Underline".

https://www.theunderline.org/wp-cont...mg/sat1560.jpg





More Information:
https://www.theunderline.org/

eleven=11 Jan 31, 2015 4:44 PM

this is why somebody (AAF) should build a office building/hotel
across the street with a bridge over US1 in West Palm Beach
http://realtime.blog.palmbeachpost.c...space-squeeze/

eleven=11 Feb 1, 2015 5:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatman (Post 6891559)
All Aboard Florida to move “as quickly as possible” to Tampa, Jax, editor says
(Link)

as much as i love this project,transportation trains,florida
the future of orlando airport and development of downtown miami
and Ft lauderdale & WPB. the most important single thing
about all of the above is THE Tri-Rail Coastal Link.
anybody got new news about this?

chris08876 Feb 1, 2015 6:12 AM

^^^^^

Funding is currently the process for the tri-rail.

Right now, getting the capital to build is is the biggest priority. They seem to be in a hurry too about it.

In terms of the project, its not overly expensive, and the capacity for it in terms of projected riders will be very low.


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