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UPP Jan 6, 2019 2:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BrutallyDishonest2 (Post 8427099)
I'll break the mold. I don't go to the LB's out of principle. That and their physical stores suck.

Curious, what principle is that?

Public LB's: profit goes back to the Province, employees are paid a good living wage.

Private stores: profit goes to the private company, most of which are not located in Saskatchewan. Employees generally do not make much more than minimum.

Product is similar, prices are virtually the same.

I understand choosing convenience, price, selection, whatever, but principle.. doesn't make sense.

BrutallyDishonest2 Jan 6, 2019 8:00 PM

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Originally Posted by UPP (Post 8427512)
Curious, what principle is that?

Public LB's: profit goes back to the Province, employees are paid a good living wage.

Private stores: profit goes to the private company, most of which are not located in Saskatchewan. Employees generally do not make much more than minimum.

Product is similar, prices are virtually the same.

I understand choosing convenience, price, selection, whatever, but principle.. doesn't make sense.

The principle is that the government should not be involved in the provision of basic goods and services that the private sector can provide.

There's no reason that alcohol should be retailed or wholesaled by the province. The insanely restrictive liquor laws are directly influenced by the SGLA being involved with direct to consumer sales and the SGEU's influence is also a terrible idea.

The prices are only similar because he province dictates the product price.

djforsberg Jan 6, 2019 9:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BrutallyDishonest2 (Post 8427720)
The principle is that the government should not be involved in the provision of basic goods and services that the private sector can provide.

There's no reason that alcohol should be retailed or wholesaled by the province. The insanely restrictive liquor laws are directly influenced by the SGLA being involved with direct to consumer sales and the SGEU's influence is also a terrible idea.

The prices are only similar because he province dictates the product price.

This. There are plenty of services that the government should be providing like in the case of natural monopolies or where the for-profit model isn't effective (i.e. power and telcomm infrastructure, roads, police, primary healthcare and education, etc.), but retail is not one of them. The only reason they are in the business of selling liquor in the first place is because of Prohibition and the puritan mindset of our ancestors. We should be well past that type of ideological thinking today. After all, we were the drinking and driving capital of Canada before liquor laws were loosened up. There are better and more fair ways of ensuring workers are getting paid affordable wages than make-work government services in areas that aren't investing in our society.

UPP Jan 7, 2019 1:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BrutallyDishonest2 (Post 8427720)
The principle is that the government should not be involved in the provision of basic goods and services that the private sector can provide.

There's no reason that alcohol should be retailed or wholesaled by the province. The insanely restrictive liquor laws are directly influenced by the SGLA being involved with direct to consumer sales and the SGEU's influence is also a terrible idea.

The prices are only similar because he province dictates the product price.

The prices are nearly the same as Alberta where there's a private liquor store on every second corner.

It's a cash cow for the province, but if you prefer to see the profits go to the Weston family or Empire Company, then have at it.

Age restricted products, like alcohol, marijuana and gambling are usually regulated or 'influenced' by government. Even in Quebec, the SAQ is prominent. I personally don't have an issue with that.

aberrant Jan 7, 2019 3:24 PM

Why not nationalize all the Tim Hortons and Walmarts as well? Would be a huge boon for the province!

Stormer Jan 7, 2019 4:17 PM

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Originally Posted by StealthGirl (Post 8426985)
The SLGA on Quance is the busiest of the govt stores in Regina. It isn't going anywhere. As for selling warm beer, the beer companies aren't paying for their stuff to be put in the cooler.

Sure it was busy before there were 3, soon to be 4, private stores nearby. SLGA on Quance is toast.

Stormer Jan 7, 2019 4:32 PM

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Originally Posted by UPP (Post 8428142)
The prices are nearly the same as Alberta where there's a private liquor store on every second corner.

It's a cash cow for the province, but if you prefer to see the profits go to the Weston family or Empire Company, then have at it.

Age restricted products, like alcohol, marijuana and gambling are usually regulated or 'influenced' by government. Even in Quebec, the SAQ is prominent. I personally don't have an issue with that.

The government still makes the profits with its giant wholesale mark-ups and taxes. SLGA made little on actual retail operation.

Nathan Jan 7, 2019 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by aberrant (Post 8428222)
Why not nationalize all the Tim Hortons and Walmarts as well? Would be a huge boon for the province!

Why not privatize absolutely everything including prisons, healthcare, the military, the courts, government itself, etc? Why even bother with government at all? Who needs any form of regulation anyway? :shrug:

Festivus Jan 7, 2019 6:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormer (Post 8428301)
The government still makes the profits with its giant wholesale mark-ups and taxes. SLGA made little on actual retail operation.

I think of his argument was that they also pay living wages to their staff, as opposed to the minimum wage at private locations.

djforsberg Jan 7, 2019 7:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Festivus (Post 8428458)
I think of his argument was that they also pay living wages to their staff, as opposed to the minimum wage at private locations.

That isn't a valid reason for government to run anything and I am as left as they get. All industries should be paying living wages, not just this specific one.

Stormer Jan 7, 2019 7:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Festivus (Post 8428458)
I think of his argument was that they also pay living wages to their staff, as opposed to the minimum wage at private locations.

Not in the post I quoted. Also I do not believe these private stores pay minimum wage to most of their workers. They tend to be older and well-informed. Not that that is a valid argument anyway.

aberrant Jan 8, 2019 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 8428354)
Why not privatize absolutely everything including prisons, healthcare, the military, the courts, government itself, etc? Why even bother with government at all? Who needs any form of regulation anyway? :shrug:

I am all for government regulation of controlled substances, and I repeatedly stand up and advocate for the SLGA's role as a regulator.

That is a lot different from retailing. Why not govt cigarette stores?

UPP Jan 8, 2019 1:15 AM

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Originally Posted by aberrant (Post 8428222)
Why not nationalize all the Tim Hortons and Walmarts as well? Would be a huge boon for the province!

You bring up Tims and Walmart. My point is, if the price is the same between Walmart and a local company, I'd take the local one any day because the profit stays here.

If liquor retailers were local owners, I might think differently. With the alternative to government stores being big out of province companies, I'll still shop at the LB. I don't see government selling liquor as a big problem I guess. They pay good wages to employees and profits are substantial.

To each his own though.

BrutallyDishonest2 Jan 8, 2019 2:11 AM

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Originally Posted by UPP (Post 8428998)
If liquor retailers were local owners, I might think differently.

Well if that's your criteria there's lot of local ownership to go around. Urban Cellars is local. Metro has local partners. Most of the off-sales are local.

UPP Jan 8, 2019 1:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BrutallyDishonest2 (Post 8429053)
Well if that's your criteria there's lot of local ownership to go around. Urban Cellars is local. Metro has local partners. Most of the off-sales are local.

I use off-sales when necessary and haven't been to Urban Cellars yet.

I've said my piece and am comfortable with my choices. You are to. Like I said, to each his own.

linus Jan 9, 2019 2:16 AM

With all the talk about SLGA stores, does anyone know what is being built behind the SLGA store on Dewdney Avenue? I believe the address is 4223 Dewdney.

yveseluj Feb 5, 2019 8:41 PM

Have there been any rumours as to what's going in the old Sears spot in the Cornwall yet?

one_brick_at_a_time Feb 5, 2019 9:09 PM

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Originally Posted by yveseluj (Post 8462071)
Have there been any rumours as to what's going in the old Sears spot in the Cornwall yet?

I remember talk of Winners And Homesense and then not sure what else. Rumor also of expanded shoppers with larger grocery section. I would love Goodlife Fitness to take up some space as well.

Stormer Feb 5, 2019 9:37 PM

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Originally Posted by one_brick_at_a_time (Post 8462123)
I remember talk of Winners And Homesense and then not sure what else. Rumor also of expanded shoppers with larger grocery section. I would love Goodlife Fitness to take up some space as well.

I understand nothing is imminent.

StealthGirl Feb 5, 2019 10:39 PM

I thought I'd heard Marshalls was taking the old Home Outfitters space between Michaels and London Drugs on VicEast/Prince of Wales, but there's been little to no activity in there for over a month. Has anyone heard anything about that space?


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