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Martin Pal Mar 4, 2018 7:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8106993)
I haven't posted much about my family's silent movie history here because, though the time period is correct, it has nothing to do with architecture. That said, I trust it won't cause too much trouble if I post just one studio photo of my grandmother...

Scott (as you must've read in many areas of this thread) many personal anecdotes and photos have been posted here that aren't architecturally related, but of those who've experienced those things and have a history with them.

It all adds context. I find I remember more about the photos where someone has had a personal or family connection to them and I can relate an actual person to them, like some of Odinthor's recent photo's or the ones CBD and E_R have posted. I remember some personal stories of those who have visited certain department stores, nightclubs and eating establishments, simply because they wrote of their experience there or have a photo of themselves or a family member who had. I don't think I am speaking for myself, when I say, don't hesitate to post something if you want to. It's all good.

AlvaroLegido Mar 4, 2018 7:42 PM

More family photos !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8106993)

I haven't posted much about my family's silent movie history here because, though the time period is correct, it has nothing to do with architecture. That said, I trust it won't cause too much trouble if I post just one studio photo of my grandmother...

https://i.imgur.com/zsBTEl0.jpg

NLA began to deviate from architecture as soon as p.2 (#37 "The car culture") and p.3 (#43 Crime).

Slauson Slim Mar 4, 2018 8:07 PM

"The Whisky A Go-Go is between Clark & Hilldale. Love used to play there."

Whisky at corner of Clark and Sunset. I spent a lot of time there seeing bands and hanging out outside. There was a low brick wall next to the Whisky where folks would sit and chat. I got into a bit of a row there once with Kim Fowley.

I saw LOVE at the Whisky, and at Bido Lito and Hullaballoo...a long time ago.

Martin Pal Mar 4, 2018 8:41 PM

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It's Oscar day in Los Angeles, Hollywood to be exact, and after three days of cloudy days, overcast skies and steady periods of rain, the sun is out for the red carpet today, with a high of 62° and after party temperatures down to 47°!

The Academy Awards are currently held right next door to the Chinese Theatre which held them for three years, from 1944-46. It's possible a phot below was previously posted, but I don't recall seeing many photos of the interior of one of those ceremonies, before. At least not a long shot.


Here's your ticket to the first awards held at the Chinese Theatre, March 2, 1944, 74 years ago:

http://www.hollywoodgoldenguy.com/si...ow-518x296.jpgHollywood Golden Guy

Notice it says -INFORMAL-! It's the first year that the Oscars weren't being held as a banquet. Being wartime they decided to make it more low key and less ostentatious, so I'm guessing that's the reason for that note.


And here's your Police Pass:

http://www.hollywoodgoldenguy.com/si...ss-465x310.jpgHollywood Golden Guy


Outside the Chinese Theatre that night:

http://www.graumanschinese.org/acade...ds-photo-1.jpgGraumansChinese.org


Here's your program for the evening. IMO, a little Germanic, isn't it?
(Click on the photo for larger image.)

http://www.graumanschinese.org/acade...16-program.jpgGraumansChinese.org

Click HERE for a look at the inside pages.


Inside the Chinese: I'm rooting for "The Ox-Bow Incident" to win Best Picture. :cheers:

http://www.graumanschinese.org/acade...ds-photo-2.jpgGraumansChinese.org


Here are the programs for the following two ceremonies held at the Chinese Theatre, March 15, 1945, and March 7, 1946.

http://www.graumanschinese.org/acade...17-program.jpg http://www.graumanschinese.org/acade...18-program.jpgGraumansChinese.org

ethereal_reality Mar 4, 2018 9:49 PM

Louis Fleckenstein home
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lomara (Post 8106289)
I found Casa de estudios at 1510 E. 3rd Street, Long Beach. It still carries the tile above the doorway.

Thanks Lomara. I'm so glad it still says 'Casa de Estudios' above the front entrance.

HERE ARE THE TWO PICS SIDE BY SIDE
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/kAJ5Xe.pnghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/OG0Fus.jpg



Let's step back and take a look at the whole place.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/DCUHXD.jpg
GSV

I'm surprised by the underground parking.
___

pjenn Mar 4, 2018 10:31 PM

Harry Raymond Detective Agency
 
Has anybody encountered a pre-1933 photograph of 238 W 1st Street, which would have been directly across from the old LA Times building at the corner of 1st and Broadway? The building was destroyed in the March 1933 earthquake. It housed the Harry Raymond Detective Agency at the time.

Patrick Jenning

ethereal_reality Mar 4, 2018 10:50 PM

3301 Waverly Drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8106298)

Turns out that I've taken quite a few pictures of that house.

Don't tease us Bill. Let's see them!
___




Here's a brief video [1:17] of young men searching the LaBianca's yard for evidence.

Video Link


The video is silent except for 10 seconds [0.28 to 0.38]. & the audio is really faint.
The man instructing the group says something about UCLA and huddles....so I'm wondering if the young men are UCLA football players.
The LaBianca murders happened a day after the Tate murders....so maybe the department was short handed. :shrug:
Otherwise I can't think of any other reason why they'd use university students.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/2...924/q7JWtG.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/2...923/5vzAlB.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/2...922/bbV9r1.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/2...924/q7JWtG.jpg




A question for odinthor.

At 1:07 a man plucks strange looking flowers-like-thingys out of a bush. (they appear wilted)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/ZUd1Wm.jpg

Do you have any idea what these odd looking 'flowers' might be? (and do they belong to that bush?)

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odinthor Mar 4, 2018 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8107529)
[...] A question for odinthor.

At 1:07 a man plucks strange looking flowers-like-thingys out of a bush. (they appear wilted)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/ZUd1Wm.jpg

Do you have any idea what these odd looking 'flowers' might be? (and do they belong to that bush?)

__

Your suspicion is right, e_r, about the flowers not belonging to the bush: I'm thinking a clump of Ismene 'Festalis' is hiding under the bush:

https://s26.postimg.org/uu5112hop/ismene.jpg
http://www.theflowerbulbcompany.co.u...mene-festalis/

HossC Mar 4, 2018 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjenn (Post 8107518)

Has anybody encountered a pre-1933 photograph of 238 W 1st Street, which would have been directly across from the old LA Times building at the corner of 1st and Broadway? The building was destroyed in the March 1933 earthquake. It housed the Harry Raymond Detective Agency at the time.

The 1921 Baist map names the building as the Culver Block. Here it is on the left of a 1920 photo (just over half of the 1st Street side is visible).

A white Van de Kamp's delivery truck and a convertible wait in traffic for pedestrians to pass on Broadway and 1st Street. A "classic" Coca-Cola sign is on the corner building. Cevola Shoe Repairing will work "While-u-wait".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rBlock1920.jpg
LAPL

ETA: Are you sure that the building was demolished in 1933, pjenn? It's still standing in this undated image which shows the 1935 LA Times building behind it.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rBlock1935.jpg
USC Digital Library

ethereal_reality Mar 5, 2018 12:20 AM

Louis Fleckenstein 'mystery' location.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/ufbQpc.jpg

Title:
[California Landscape]

Artist/Maker:
Louis Fleckenstein (American, 1866 - 1943)

Date:
1907 - 1943

Medium:
Toned gelatin silver print

GETTY

pjenn Mar 5, 2018 1:24 AM

Harry Raymond Detective Agency
 
My info comes from the San Francisco Chronicle, March 14, 1933. I'll try to post it.

It may be that the building, though condemned according to the Chronicle, survived for a few years.

https://nam04.safelinks.protection.o...%3D&reserved=0

Was the current Times building built on the same lot as the one that stood in 1933?

Pat

Flyingwedge Mar 5, 2018 1:47 AM

238 W 1st Street at SE corner of Broadway
 
:previous:
Photo 408193 at the Huntington Digital Library shows that building standing in March 1956.

Photo 411230 at HDL shows the building almost completely demolished on July 1, 1958.

Here's the SE corner of 1st and Broadway in February 2017.

pjenn Mar 5, 2018 3:59 AM

Harry Raymond Detective Agency
 
I found a photograph on the DWP site that shows both the 1933 and the current Times building along with the 238 1st Street building.

http://waterandpower.org/Historical%...d_New_1934.jpg

Thanks very much for figuring this out!

Mstimc Mar 5, 2018 5:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8107380)
Scott (as you must've read in many areas of this thread) many personal anecdotes and photos have been posted here that aren't architecturally related, but of those who've experienced those things and have a history with them.

It all adds context. I find I remember more about the photos where someone has had a personal or family connection to them and I can relate an actual person to them, like some of Odinthor's recent photo's or the ones CBD and E_R have posted. I remember some personal stories of those who have visited certain department stores, nightclubs and eating establishments, simply because they wrote of their experience there or have a photo of themselves or a family member who had. I don't think I am speaking for myself, when I say, don't hesitate to post something if you want to. It's all good.

I agree! What makes noir noir is more than just the buildings--its the people who lived, worked, partied and sometimes died in them. The only photo I've managed to post here was of Echo Park in 1929. What makes the picture meaningful (at least to me) is that my 9-year-old mother and her three-year-old cousin are posing in it.

Flyingwedge Mar 5, 2018 5:43 AM

First Street Police Station
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8107583)

this undated image which shows the 1935 LA Times building

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rBlock1935.jpg
USC Digital Library

On the right in HossC's photo, behind the billboard ad for the Hollywood Bowl, is the Los Angeles Police Department HQ
that opened in 1896.


In this c. early 1920s photo we're looking west up First Street at the 1896 LAPD HQ:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...i.jpg~original

uclalat_1429_b3715_G2897 @ Los Angeles Times Photographic Archive. Department of Special Collections, Charles E. Young Research Library, UCLA.


Since we're approaching the 85th anniversary of the 1933 Long Beach Earthquake (March 10, 5:54 p.m.), here's the
First Street Police Station shortly after the quake:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...9.jpg~original

uclamss_1429_2088 @ Los Angeles Times Photographic Archive. Department of Special Collections, Charles E. Young Research Library, UCLA.


The parapet:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...3.jpg~original



Can anyone ID this car?

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...7.jpg~original


We've seen this police station before at NLA many times, such as here and here and also here.

odinthor Mar 5, 2018 5:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mstimc (Post 8107920)
I agree! What makes noir noir is more than just the buildings--its the people who lived, worked, partied and sometimes died in them. The only photo I've managed to post here was of Echo Park in 1929. What makes the picture meaningful (at least to me) is that my 9-year-old mother and her three-year-old cousin are posing in it.

Absolutely--we're experiencing not only the buildings but also the emotional and social environment of the streetscape and landscape, the city as a whole...really the only way to understand any of these. And so ephemera, family snapshots, advertisements, newspaper articles, cars, beer bottles--anything that played a part in the lives of Angelenos helps us to understand what it was and what it is to be an Angeleno.

So :tup: to e_r for creating a really special place where we truly get to the heart of L.A.!

Krell58 Mar 5, 2018 7:03 AM

I've spent way too much time in that police station playing LA Noire.:shrug:

ScottyB Mar 5, 2018 7:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8107620)
Louis Fleckenstein 'mystery' location.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/ufbQpc.jpg

Title:
[California Landscape]

Artist/Maker:
Louis Fleckenstein (American, 1866 - 1943)

Date:
1907 - 1943

Medium:
Toned gelatin silver print

GETTY


OK, I'll bite...........based on the shadows I figure we're looking East, and the hills make me think of the Eagle Rock Valley. So perhaps Mr. Fleckenstein was on the hill above Las Colinas looking down towards Eagle Rock Blvd.


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4774/...a63faba5_b.jpg

The palm trees got me excited, and the hills make some sense, though the zoom lens of the original is hard to match. Maybe?


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4771/...3065f5ac_b.jpg

Otis Criblecoblis Mar 5, 2018 9:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8106985)
By the way, at what time was the Dresden one of your hangouts? The period when I spent my most time there was between 1992 and 1999. Do you remember any of your bartenders' names?

I was an habitué of the Dresden Room in the early Eighties, as a USC student, and sang with Marty and Elayne in the period of about 1988-1992 or '93. I didn't really drink much there in the early Eighties because I had to drive back to the campus, and I never drink when I sing, so I didn't get to know any of the bartenders.

Marty and Elayne were very nice and quite supportive when I sang with them, and I too hope they hold forth there for many years to come.

Otis Criblecoblis Mar 5, 2018 9:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8106993)
I haven't posted much about my family's silent movie history here because, though the time period is correct, it has nothing to do with architecture. That said, I trust it won't cause too much trouble if I post just one studio photo of my grandmother...

https://i.imgur.com/zsBTEl0.jpg

That's grandma Elva as a Mack Sennett Bathing Beauty, seen with Keystone Teddy, the Sennett dog, and star in his own right.

Some Teddy links:

http://normanstudios.org/blog/2017/0...s-best-friend/
https://ladailymirror.com/2015/07/06...s-best-friend/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddy_(dog)

I am utterly charmed by this photo of your grandmother, and am grateful that you posted it. It is a marvelous contribution to this thread, and I hope you post more like it.

I'm going to go out on a limb to say that this thread is one of the most magnificent corners of the Internet. It should be backed up every night and preserved by the Library of Congress, for it is an invaluable resource. I can't count how many times someone has posted a photo showing a curb and an outbuilding and some mountains in the background, and within 24 hours at the outside someone has identified the location.

The members of this thread, collectively, are the memory of this great city, and the longer it gets, the more completely the history of Los Angeles is recorded.


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