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Earl Boebert Aug 6, 2019 7:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8650938)
I happened upon this fascinating rppc last night on eBay

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/4F0Itv.jpgeBay

Does anyone know what set this event in motion? :shrug: ...

Unless I'm mistaken, Nazi Germany didn't invade Poland until September 1, 1939. (a month and a half later)


sidenote:

Whoever designed the lighting was no doubt aware of Hitler's rallies in Nuremberg.

The Nazi sympathizers at Murphy Ranch in Rustic Canyon would have seen able to see the searchlights.
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The guy who founded MRA was prescient:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_Re-Armament

In the 50's one of my father's employees was an MRA follower, and used to bombard me with literature. Noirish connection: Mentioned in "Farewell My Lovely."

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality Aug 6, 2019 7:34 PM

:previous: Wow!

I was unaware of the MRA movement.

Thanks for the link, Earl.

FredH Aug 6, 2019 7:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8650429)
Thanks for solving the sign mystery, HenryHuntington.


Otis, you piqued my curiousity so I googled Keuffel & Esser items.


This cast iron pencil sharpener isn't the most impressive Keuffel & Esser item but it certainly brought back memories of drafting class.

..........If I remember correctly, you stuck your pencil in the hole and moved the top part in circles. (there was sandpaper inside

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/aiFbGy.jpg
etsy

It was made of cast iron so it wouldn't fly off the table.

Does anyone else remember using one of these things to sharpen a pencil?

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E.R. - From my "extensive" drafting experience in 9th grade shop class, I remember using one of these sharpeners.

As I recall, these were not meant for common wood pencils, but instead to put a sharp point on a mechanical drafting pencil.

https://i.postimg.cc/66FC1bP9/vintag...e07ca10962.jpg
www.worthpoint.com

My recollection is that the lead in these old mechanical pencils was quite a bit thicker than modern pencils.
The old sharpeners kept a nice point on the pencil, which was needed for drafting work.
With today's pencils, the lead is very thin and sharpening is unnecessary.

mrfredmertz Aug 6, 2019 7:44 PM

I HAVE one of those K&E sharpeners. They sharpen mechanicval pencil leads and do a great job, plus they are always at the ready as a paperweight.

mrfredmertz Aug 6, 2019 7:47 PM

LEROY is a small pantograph which fits into the grooves on a lettering ruler template. You put a pencil or a drafting ink pen (Rapideograph) in the other mount on the Leroy. Then you trace perfect letters. The result is beautiful, exactly'matching lettering on blueprints. I have them as well.

mrfredmertz Aug 6, 2019 7:50 PM

http://www.kleefeldoncomics.com/2015...lettering.html

Flyingwedge Aug 6, 2019 9:24 PM

1700 S. Santa Fe Avenue
 
Seventeen hundred south Santa Fe Avenue was built c. 1923-24 for the Southern California Gas Company. In this
April 2019 shot, we see new artwork on the building's south side:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psakp3rgtv.jpg

Google Street View


But atop the building's north and west sides we see the original artwork in which a gasometer dominates the scene:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...ps5uob1mwt.jpg

April 2019 GSV

HossC Aug 6, 2019 9:49 PM

:previous:

Here's a quick "then and now" of the end of the building. The first is circa 1938.

This view of the Southern California Gas Company is looking east from Santa Fe just north of 11th and includes the administration building on (right, in Vernon), maintenance facilities, a circular gas storage tank, and in the distance on the left the Sears building can be seen.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...00SantaFe1.jpg
LAPL

The gas tank has gone, but the Sears building is still there.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...00SantaFe2.jpg
GSV

Earl Boebert Aug 6, 2019 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FredH (Post 8650986)
E.R. - From my "extensive" drafting experience in 9th grade shop class, I remember using one of these sharpeners.

As I recall, these were not meant for common wood pencils, but instead to put a sharp point on a mechanical drafting pencil.

https://i.postimg.cc/66FC1bP9/vintag...e07ca10962.jpg
www.worthpoint.com

My recollection is that the lead in these old mechanical pencils was quite a bit thicker than modern pencils.
The old sharpeners kept a nice point on the pencil, which was needed for drafting work.
With today's pencils, the lead is very thin and sharpening is unnecessary.

They were designed to sharpen one of these; the ad calls it a "clutch pencil" but we (5 years mechanical drawing in Jr. Hi and Hi) always called them "chuck pencils." Whatever. Pushing the button releases the jaws and allows the lead to slide in and out. You got very good at holding the pencil just the right height above the desk to extend the lead to sharpening depth, then a quick spin in the sharpener and back to work.

https://sep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-17252..._2581_82609424

Still around:

https://www.draftingsteals.com/catal...adholders.html

If you keep this up I'll have to introduce you to the "mouse mattress," another basic drafting tool :-)

Cheers,

Earl

CityBoyDoug Aug 7, 2019 1:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 8651175)
They were designed to sharpen one of these; the ad calls it a "clutch pencil" but we (5 years mechanical drawing in Jr. Hi and Hi) always called them "chuck pencils." Whatever. Pushing the button releases the jaws and allows the lead to slide in and out. You got very good at holding the pencil just the right height above the desk to extend the lead to sharpening depth, then a quick spin in the sharpener and back to work.

https://sep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-17252..._2581_82609424

Still around:

https://www.draftingsteals.com/catal...adholders.html

If you keep this up I'll have to introduce you to the "mouse mattress," another basic drafting tool :-)

Cheers,

Earl

https://cdn.dick-blick.com/items/129...00-1-3ww-l.jpg
K-E

I never heard that name but this must be it?

Earl Boebert Aug 7, 2019 3:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8651300)
https://cdn.dick-blick.com/items/129...00-1-3ww-l.jpg
K-E

I never heard that name but this must be it?

Ding! Ding! You win the Internet tonight!

Cheers,

Earl

Flyingwedge Aug 7, 2019 3:45 AM

Gasometer at 11th and Santa Fe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8651140)

Thanks, Hoss. I wasn't familiar with this particular gasometer.


February 11, 1923, Los Angeles Times:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psvtqkvgom.jpg

ProQuest via LA Public Library

Lojack Aug 7, 2019 4:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 8650986)
E.R. - From my "extensive" drafting experience in 9th grade shop class, I remember using one of these sharpeners.

As I recall, these were not meant for common wood pencils, but instead to put a sharp point on a mechanical drafting pencil.

https://i.postimg.cc/66FC1bP9/vintag...e07ca10962.jpg
www.worthpoint.com

My recollection is that the lead in these old mechanical pencils was quite a bit thicker than modern pencils.
The old sharpeners kept a nice point on the pencil, which was needed for drafting work.
With today's pencils, the lead is very thin and sharpening is unnecessary.

Thank you! I knew I'd seen that type of sharpener before, and yes, it was in drafting class! I agree on the modern pencils, I love my Koh-I-Noors.

ethereal_reality Aug 7, 2019 5:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 8651114)

But atop the building's north and west sides we see the original artwork in which a gasometer dominates the scene:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...ps5uob1mwt.jpg
April 2019 GSV

:previous: Good eye FW!

I didn't realize how large the building is.....It's very impressive.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/hBcJ9x.jpg
GSV


This plat map of the property is being used on the loopnet site.

...but isn't it kinda' old?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/pOStFV.jpg
loopnet

It still shows five long & narrow lots between Olympic Blvd. and 1760 S. Santa Fe Avenue (address of the old gas building)

Those individual lots are loooong gone.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/LTsHaH.jpg
google_aerial


This is a neat old pic of the building and gasometer.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/9qIDXj.jpg
I cropped it a bit.

Thanks for finding it, Hoss....You're a Pro. :)

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ethereal_reality Aug 7, 2019 5:18 AM

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CityBoyDoug Aug 7, 2019 9:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 8651372)
Ding! Ding! You win the Internet tonight!

Cheers,

Earl

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...7-gradient.jpg
E-B

24 karat gold plated drafting tool for Earl.

Blamour Aug 7, 2019 1:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 8648267)
Agree with the notion that there were several anachronisms in the picture, the one that jumped out out me was a car on Wilshire in Westwood, among the high rise apartments....clearly, some of the buildings were '80's or later vintage...I would have thought they could have been removed by CGI.

No doubt. Every frame of CGI has a price on it, however. I remember a number of times (on the few films that I worked on) where we had thought we'd use CGI at the time we got the shot but in post we realized we'd rather spend the money elsewhere. It's always a trade off ... and many times people are focused on the foreground action and don't pay any attention to the anachronism you are worried about. I remember a number of shots in Pearl Harbor where special effects devices, and even crew members, were in a shot and no one paid any attention. It was only when I was going over the film carefully checking out the locations that I noticed them.

ethereal_reality Aug 7, 2019 5:46 PM

I happened upon this fascinating snapshot the other day on eBay...but now can't find it again. (hence: no link)

Have we seen this rather unusual church?


Sierra Madre Church....11 - 29 - 24.......................................

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/tNTkXT.jpg


I wonder if all the stones were collected in the surrounding area. That would be awesome.

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ethereal_reality Aug 7, 2019 6:22 PM

Does anyone know what this mystery thingy is at Griffith Observatory, c.1983 Slide.

I am surprised by its prominent location.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/fzom6T.jpg
eBay

It's obviously some kind of transmitter, right?

Do you think that old pedestal is a hold over from WWII :shrug:




Free night out at the Cocoanut Grove for any noirisher who can find a second photo with this mystery thing. (I tried) I FAILED :(

ethereal_reality Aug 7, 2019 6:51 PM

One more post for today.


This is a rather fascinating snapshot. It makes you feel like you've traveled back in time & you're right there with these people.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/Wmk9Kq.jpg
eBay

Does anyone remember where, in Long beach, the Brainard Apts. was / is located?



REVERSE
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/5DCTAV.jpg

As you can see..it was ripped from a photo album. (I'd love to see other photographs from this album)

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