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I can't thank you enough for the your insightful post Flyingwedge The sanborn maps were fascinating. (as usual) First of all I have to confess. I always thought the Selig Zoo was located inside Eastlake/Lincoln Park. (I should have known better since it was privately owned) But I'm still confused about a couple other things. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/2OyzCk.jpg Quote:
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Thanks for the response to the church slides GaylordWilshire, Handsome Stranger and LA KITTY KAT. meow
Before I call it a night here are two more slides. "Vtg 1953 3D Stereo Slide LOS ANGELES Street Scene WILSHIRE BLVD Hotel STATLER" #1 https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/29oH3h.jpg ebay Dayum...that's some scooter. #2 https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/okSPLH.jpg ebay Good night folks! |
ER, I'm enthralled by that Flying A Service sign opposite the Statler...but where the heck is the gas station? https://s3.amazonaws.com/pix.iemoji.com/andr33/1818.png
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He is buried in the Angelus Abbey Memorial Park in Compton. Find a Grave indicates that his address at the time of his death was 1497 Henderson Street in Long Beach. That site indicates that he was retired at the time of his death. His widow lived until 1961.[/QUOTE] This morning I find more about the Plumb family. Apparently Elwood and Bertha were divorced prior to his death. Bertha, who was apparently a practical nurse, is found in the 1930 Census, listed as being divorced, and living as a boarder with a couple named Richardson at 8274 Marmont in Los Angeles. There are no records which show when they were divorced. Bertha then appears in a voter registration in Tracy, California in 1934 where she was working as a clerk. |
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He is buried in the Angelus Abbey Memorial Park in Compton. Find a Grave indicates that his address at the time of his death was 1497 Henderson Street in Long Beach. That site indicates that he was retired at the time of his death. His widow lived until 1961.[/QUOTE] This morning I find more about the Plumb family. Elwood and Bertha were divorced in South Dakota prior to 1925. They had a daughter, Carol Joy, who was born in 1917 and died in 1922 in South Dakota. Bertha, who was apparently a practical nurse, is found in the 1930 Census, listed as being divorced, and living as a boarder with a couple named Richardson at 8274 Marmont in Los Angeles. Bertha then appears in a voter registration in Tracy, California in 1934 where she was working as a clerk. |
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I found a thorough account of the Statler here: https://paradiseleased.wordpress.com...mic-age-hotel/ which included this exterior shot which shows a couple of gas pumps but no actual station. It looks to be fairly close, time-wise to the 1953 shot posted by e_r. https://i.imgur.com/6ebiCe3.jpg?1 "Dick" Whittington/USC Another view showing the Flying A sign and St. Pauls Cathedral https://i.imgur.com/ZdtmZe2.jpg?1 Examiner/USC |
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An earlier Associated Oil sign is visible here: https://s22.postimg.cc/46m1ahmc1/sta...edsign.bmp.jpg This may be a rendering made between the ASSOCIATED sign and the round Flying A one, or the round one lasted but a minute...anyway, you can see the pumps... https://s22.postimg.cc/w6q4umsbl/statlerpumps.bmp.jpg Both USCDL And a couple more... With the round Flying A sign and the pumps... https://s22.postimg.cc/dm6i0wyq9/statler4.jpg There was yet another Flying A sign in the view of the hotel as the Statler Hilton.... https://s22.postimg.cc/o90b6gh75/statler3.jpg Both LAPL |
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GaylordWilshire and Bristolian, many thanks for the follow-up on that Flying A sign. I've never heard of branded gas pumps at a public parking lot, with no attached gas station. Very interesting! I wonder how common or uncommon such a setup was. The Associated Oil sign intrigues me too. I did a little online reading and learned that in 1938 Associated Oil merged with Tidewater Petroleum, the parent company of Flying A.
AlvaroLegido and CityBoyDoug, that's definitely a questionable list of film noirs. (Or is it films noir?) I can accept Sunset Blvd as film noir. The Third Man is kind of iffy. But Rebecca? Nuh-uh! "My, my, my! Such a lot of guns around town and so few brains! You know, you're the second guy I've met today that seems to think a gat in the hand means the world by the tail." |
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I would say these two photos do indeed show the same cars, check out the three just below the letters "image" on the watermark: one vehicle is on its side, one upside down, and the next right side up, from north to south on the east side of the parking lot: https://imageshack.com/i/pmKU7bRwj https://imageshack.com/i/po1EDkAlj |
For me, film noir involves a rejection of the idealism of earlier films. In noir, nobody is really innocent. Even the best people are deeply flawed. People who are not career criminals think they can solve their problems with a crime, just this once. As Sterling Hayden says in "The Killing," "They've all got a little larceny in 'em."
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The discussion of Noir films prompted me to re-watch the original film of The Maltese Falcon, with Ricardo Cortez and Bebe Daniels--just finished it a moment ago. In my opinion, it makes the later more famous version look pallid. Bogart's unquestionably the better actor; but the one-dimensional primitivity of Cortez makes his Spade much more chilling.
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Bebe Daniels in The Maltese Falcon. [c.1931] https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/ClPQtO.jpg benny-drinnon odinthor, did you happen to notice this amazing deco day bed in the film? (or perhaps it was just used for this publicity still) note the light hidden behind the pillows to emphasize the *golden rays of the headboard. It makes me wonder if the light was component of the headboard or a trick of the photographer's. *I GUESSED THE RAYS WERE GOLDEN. THEY COULD BE SILVER (we'll never know) _ |
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Maybe we can't be 100% sure from aerial photos which buildings are the two in the first photo above (presumably the Bohemian Gardens). Plus, the map is from 1920, and the flood was in 1934, and there had to have been remodeling in between. But, yes, I think the building in the second photo above with the yellow circle is the "house" in the first photo above, especially since Lorendoc ID'd the same cars in that photo and in the photo looking at where the water entered the parking lot. And before we break out the "beating a dead horse" GIF, here's an aerial view taken between December 1938 and January 1939. The blue arrow marks where the water left the reservoir and poured into the parking lot. The shadow cast by the building to the right of "House" suggests to me the front of the building on the left in the first photo above. Next to and set back a bit from the "house" appears to be the flat-fronted building in the first photo above: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psoy6ahmer.jpg Flight c-5526 Frame 29 @ UCSB I put orange dots on those buildings just to identify them as landmarks on the property :) |
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Although the flood was in 1934, the Bohemian Gardens only appear in the 1938 CD. In the early-30s, 3890 N Mission was Selig Studios, but the 1935 CD lists Eastside Gardens at that address. The photos below are dated 1934. The first of e_r's flood pictures is from "1/1/34", so this must be after the clean-up. There's no doubting the address - it appears three times in the first image. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original Here are the main buildings. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original I've omitted three pictures from the set. There's a closer view of the entrance, and one each of these young ladies posing with a lion and a tiger, presumably from the nearby zoo. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original All from USC Digital Library |
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The earliest mentions that come up in the Times are these...apparently referring to the re-opening: https://s15.postimg.cc/rk3gdokbv/eastside1.bmp.jpghttps://s15.postimg.cc/x89r4ngzf/eastside2.bmp.jpg LAT April 5, 1934/April 6, 1934 https://s15.postimg.cc/u6nk835zf/Eas...geles_1934.jpg https://s15.postimg.cc/wzgrsir0r/eastside3.jpg These images found on Pinterest. The first is captioned "Lion at Eastside Gardens, Los Angeles, 1934" PS I see, HossC, that these must be the ones you omitted.... Anyway... |
A gentleman named Ed Alinder took these '40's photos, posted at the link by his son Gary:
https://macrochef.wordpress.com/2011...-in-the-1940s/ http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psuxnokphb.jpg "Smash Up" with Susan Hayward is playing at the U.A. http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...pscmscqp0x.jpg http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psue8621zj.jpg http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psudf5xx6m.jpg http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psl5w9u3ct.jpg http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psqdglsot5.jpg This is identified as North Hollywood. http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...pswx3oxjod.jpg Unidentified gentleman and the Alinder familys Ford convertible. http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psbwrqclt4.jpg Lockheed. http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psidkv3wgm.jpg This is identified as Linda Rosa Ave. in Pasadena...Gary Alinder says the house has been demolished. http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...pswouwj4tc.jpg http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...pspoodjpaz.jpg Republic Pictures, now CBS Studio Center, Studio City...is the large white building in the middle distance North Hollywood H.S.? The above photo would have been taken from about here on Laurelwood Dr., just above Ventura Blvd.: http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...pseohp0yip.png The 40's photo shows the roof of the white commercial building on Ventura Blvd., with signage...that building survives, as does the (now) ghost sign...I tried to figure out the 40's usage from the shape of the sign...could it be a stylized motion picture camera? http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psegnucoir.png http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psrgzi4bs7.jpg Ed Alinder continued his studio tour by driving to a street above the Universal back lot...could be Blair Dr., I lived on that street in '73-'75, and had a similar view...L.A. River and Lakeside Golf Club border the studio. http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...pspio2pckm.jpg Here you can see the clubhouse at Lakeside. http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psahcjdswi.jpg I believe this is 826 W. Anaheim in Wilmington. And today: http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psvnc5incl.png http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psexylc3kq.jpg A lovely photo...I love the (presumably) mother and daughter catching some shade on the right. "Spring Again", shown here as from the 1943 N.Y. season, was actually on Broadway in '41-'42 for a total of 241 performances...the original cast included C. Aubrey Smith, William Talman (Perry Mason's nemesis, covered in this thread in his last days as an anti-smoking advocate)...and a young man making his Broadway debut in a walk-on role as a Western Union message boy...Mr. Kirk Douglas. http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...pspratrnzf.jpg http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...pspa2vc9h0.jpg http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psy6va9qlr.jpg The 2nd feature at the Orpheum was "Banjo", with child actress Sharyn Moffett. |
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From the Dept of Tangents, Minutiae, and Dead Horses Painting wheels red was something people did to customize their cars, though many came from the factory this way--here is a shot of the original spare of a '51 Mercury (Firestone Super Balloon, with tube) and the factory-painted wheel of a very original '53 Merc wagon, both taken by me this morning. Mercurys during this era--up through at least the '53 model year--had their wheels factory-painted this color no matter what the body color was. I believe that in the case of the '41 Ford, such as is seen in riichkay's image, red could be specified as an option.... https://s15.postimg.cc/qa70ktpyj/Fernwheel.jpghttps://s15.postimg.cc/5xptitqaz/53_Merc79wheel.jpg |
Very interesting GW. I didn't know this.
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mystery house in Long Beach.
I don't believe we have seen this place on nla. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/6MQZBx.jpg "House built without nails. Sacred bridge of Nikko." Long Beach Cal. (little heart) I find it odd that they named the bridge but not the house. I wonder if it's still standing? |
Not sure if NLA needs another pic of Angels Flight; but I just ran across this pic I took some time back of it (or at least of its tracks!):
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I think this is a wonderful cabinet card. I like that the photographer was a bit further away from the house than usually seen in c. cards.
And he must have been standing on a hill or a rooftop.....or a pretty tall ladder! https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/v3B2eX.jpg EBAY As you can, there's a gradual hillock on the right. On the left there are several buildings of varying shapes (not necessarily homes) That makes me think they're not far from downtown. There is nothing written on the back. BUT there's a second pic with names. (yee ha!) https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/TtmIK9.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/0MofWG.jpg The family's name is Aisenpries (?) Hopefully we will find out where this family lived in Los Angeles. __ |
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Re the carpet...it's an extra layer to keep moisture from rising up into the chassis. Plus it's more comfortable for me when I'm underneath.... Shallow 3x5' pan catch the drips. As for hub/rim/wheel...rim and wheel are more or less interchangeable--hub usually refers to what they're mounted on. As for brushwork... here's a third example of red rims...the car is a '56 Ford, which came from the factory with rims painted body color...in the case of this car, "Raven Black." The original owner of this otherwise mostly untouched car--who lived in Whittier--painted only the part of the rim that showed around the wheel cover. (He kept the spare wheel all black.) Strange that he apparently painted his brand new Country Squire this way, but I liked it enough to keep it. The '53 Merc, by the way, came off the line in Maywood...so maybe there is a little LA cred with this post. https://s15.postimg.cc/ir5ycie9n/56wheel_UT.jpg |
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Amelia Aisenpries was listed at 1512 Barbee St in the 1893-1901 CDs. She was a divorcée, but in the style of the times, to save face or to wish the ex dead, she listed herself as a widow. John seems to have been her son. No number 1512 today, but Amelia was at 3314 in 1904.... Not seeing anything "hillocky" next to that house though. Pretty flat street. Thinking the image may be older than the '90s anyway.... PS in the '92 CD, Amelia is at 512 Barbee and is listed as the "janitress" at the Gates St. School...which appears to still be there. https://s15.postimg.cc/uvpt76yiz/barbee.bmp.jpg https://s15.postimg.cc/kbfvonz6z/3314barbee.bmp.jpg |
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riichkay, thanks for sharing those gorgeous 1940s slides. They're a great example of the long-term stability of Kodachrome vs. Ektachrome.
The ghost sign in Studio City you mentioned was worth investigating so I invited myself over for a look-see. I don't think it's supposed to be a stylized motion picture camera; it's just an art deco-ish design. https://78.media.tumblr.com/52c515ac...rtso1_1280.jpg https://78.media.tumblr.com/f48ef978...rtso2_1280.jpg I wonder if Terman Realty was the original tenant of the building, or whether they came later and revised the sign for their purpose? Martin Pal, I enjoyed your comments on film noir! |
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The 1939/40 San Fernando Valley CD has a masseur named Harold White at 11948 Ventura and a tailor named Herman Heinrich at 11950. The buildings looked quite different in July 2007 (below), and Ventura didn't even have a planted center divider. For several years after this, Pepe's NY Pizza (11946 Ventura) covered the roof sign with a rectangular advert, but the original sign is now visible again. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...50Ventura1.jpg GSV We originally saw some of Ed Alinder's Kodachrome images back in 2014. Here are the posts that my quick search found: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=23131 http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=23135 http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=23140 http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=23144 http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=23149 http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=23151 |
[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;8216119]My favorite color noir is Niagara. [1953]
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