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BillinGlendaleCA Aug 29, 2019 6:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8672311)
Well sopas, you are very correct but you didn't mention that mini Beverly Hills city of San Marino, which is now about 60% Chinese & Asian millionaires.
The wealthy people of Asia and Hong Kong, etc., were warned forty years ago that their days were numbered and they had best get out of Asia ASAP.


Huntington

Speaking of The Huntington and the Asian population of the SGV, they have a Chinese Garden(which they are expanding right now):

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...620c58ac_b.jpg_8260003-Edit.jpg by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

The photo above is a near infrared shot, combined with a visual color shot.

The Huntington is celebrating their 100th anniversary this year.

sopas ej Aug 29, 2019 3:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8672311)
Well sopas, you are very correct but you didn't mention that mini Beverly Hills city of San Marino, which is now about 60% Chinese & Asian millionaires.

Ah yes, San Marino.

I believe the high Chinese population has helped erode the blue laws that seem to have been in effect for the longest time in San Marino. It used to be that EVERYTHING was closed in San Marino on Sundays. But in the last few years, I'm noticing a few businesses (like restaurants) being open on Sundays, which would have been unheard of there 10 years ago. I'm sure some Chinese businessmen were saying "What?? Closed on Sundays??? That's bad for business!! Turn away potential customers??? You can't make money that way!!!"

There are a few Chinese/Taiwanese-type businesses in San Marino now too, like noodle shops and Chinese bakeries.

Martin Pal Aug 29, 2019 5:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LA Kitty Kat (Post 8671753)
I lived in Alhambra from 1957 and started high school in 1965. ...I didn't remember seeing the building from my time in Alhambra.
____________________________________________


Bette Davis as Margaret Elliot in "The Star."

Margaret's sister: "Where you been? Some glamour party?"
Margaret: "Yuh. Had a ball."

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ar_trailer.jpg

Margaret's sister: "Well you seem to have plenty of time to
do everything except get out to Alhambra."

LA Kitty Kat Aug 29, 2019 5:44 PM

Alhambra, again...
 
Martin Pal

LOL!!!

ethereal_reality Aug 29, 2019 6:43 PM

A RPPC found on eBay


Wolcott & Co. Jewelry Store, 3773 Wilshire Blvd. Los Angeles - California

...................................................................................................................I think the jewelry guy is a HOOT. :lmao:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/mU1tyL.jpg
eBay


REVERSE
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/CO2rrv.jpg

I was surprised to see the 1947 postmark. I thought the interior of the store looked more like..late 1950s or early 1960s.


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ethereal_reality Aug 29, 2019 8:02 PM

I also happened upon this RPPC of an American Legion Locomotive Parade in Los Angeles. [c.1938]


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/xXSdcD.jpg
eBay

I've never heard of this particular event.


Intrigued: I searched & found one other photograph related to the event in the Pomona Public Library.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/1488oJ.jpg
pomonapubliclibrary




I couldn't help but notice the 'think-outside-the-box' contraption the legionnaires from Lawrenceburg, Indiana brought to the event. [see below]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/JDXjpN.jpg
DETAIL

I don't see how, by any the stretch of the imagination, that can be a 'locomotive'...but what they have created, a Flying Pegasus!, is exceptionally impressive. . .and super cool.




hmm..do you think they drove it like that all the way from Indiana?

Bristolian Aug 29, 2019 9:44 PM

The Baldwin Hills Oil Field House chronicled in Flying Wedge's thorough and excellent post here: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=19215 popped up in the latest episode of the FX series Snowfall last night.
The series is a docudrama about the beginnings of the crack epidemic in L.A. in the 1980s. It's in its third season and for my money, it is very good television. They have done a good job of recreating 80s Los Angeles, not only with the cars and such but also throwing in quirky reminders of L.A.'s past. One character was wearing Fedco employee's outfit and another scene had a couple of guys chowing down at home and they had Pup 'N' Taco cups. A lot of it is shot in South Central and they show the tall palm trees frequently. I would guess that they have grown a bit in the 35 years since but they are an effective element nonetheless.

Anyway, back to the house. Previously unseen and unmentioned, it shows up as an isolated place where various elements of the drug trade are stashed. The screenshots show one of the main characters approaching it after he has been tipped off.

https://i.imgur.com/xL8yx4l.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/nXXjUJx.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/vvDiGG9.png?1
Screenshots from FX series "Snowfall"

Earl Boebert Aug 29, 2019 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8672941)
I also happened upon this RPPC of an American Legion Locomotive Parade in Los Angeles. [c.1938]


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/xXSdcD.jpg
eBay

I've never heard of this particular event.


Intrigued: I searched & found one other photograph related to the event in the Pomona Public Library.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/Ap4cVt.jpg
pomonapubliclibrary


I couldn't help but notice the 'think-outside-the-box' contraption the legionnaires from Lawrenceburg, Indiana brought to the event. [see below]




https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/JDXjpN.jpg
DETAIL

I don't see how, by any the stretch of the imagination, that can be a 'locomotive'...but what they have created, a Flying Pegasus!, is exceptionally impressive. . .and super cool.




hmm..do you think they drove it like that all the way from Indiana?

Although it is technically correct to caption these as American Legion, they are in fact pictures of the hard-drinking, hellraising subgroup known as the "40 and 8," named for the legend on the sides of French railroad cars. I've posted about them before (my uncle was a member) but you can tell who they are by the use of the term "Voiture" for their branches (American Legion branches are called "Posts"), the multiple 40/8 legends on the vehicles, the "La Société des Quarante Hommes et Huit Chevaux" on one of the locomotives, and the distinctive clown smocks/shirts that they wore. By 1939 they were probably already starting to sober up as their membership entered their 40's; they had their heyday in the 1920s. Note the two "real" Legionnaires in the dark uniforms in the bottom picture, looking on with what appears to be less than amused body language.

A summary of the somewhat checkered history of the "40 and 8" can be found here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty_...s_organization

and the web page of their strictly sober present incarnation (with a sanitized summary history) can be found here:

https://www.fortyandeight.org

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality Aug 29, 2019 11:35 PM

:previous: Terrific information, Earl. Thank you.

...Locomotives. (french boxcars) I see the connection.






So your uncle was a hellraiser, eh? ;)
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Earl Boebert Aug 29, 2019 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8673167)
:previous: Terrific information, Earl. Thank you.

...locomotives. (french boxcars) I see the connection.






So your uncle was a hellraiser, eh? ;)
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Oh, my, yes. His shenanigans drove my poor grandmother to distraction. He had been an artilleryman, 2 batteries down from Harry Truman. He'd visit us, get drunk, sing "The Cannoneers Have Hairy Ears" (great book, BTW) and pass out on the couch.

Cheers,

Earl

Flyingwedge Aug 30, 2019 3:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 8673070)


https://i.imgur.com/vvDiGG9.png?1
Screenshots from FX series "Snowfall"


Thanks for the "Snowfall" heads-up and the pics of the Baldwin Hills Oil Field House, Bristolian! :)

Behind the mailbox it looks like the address might be set into the brick wall. I had never seen a photo that showed that.

sopas ej Aug 30, 2019 3:38 AM

Broadway and Temple, downtown Los Angeles, 1932. My apologies if this picture has been posted before.
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...26&oe=5E0DC3DE
Yesterday's Print

Bristolian Aug 30, 2019 3:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 8673384)
Thanks for the "Snowfall" heads-up and the pics of the Baldwin Hills Oil Field House, Bristolian! :)

Behind the mailbox it looks like the address might be set into the brick wall. I had never seen a photo that showed that.

As you pointed out in your post, the house has no street address. For the television storyline, they gave an address of 5363 Stillwater Drive which is an actual house about a mile east of the oil field house. It was obviously artistic license. The addresses on the mailbox and the wall must have been added for the shoot.

https://i.imgur.com/RsbhDXn.png?1
Screengrab from FX series "Snowfall"

sopas ej Aug 30, 2019 4:25 AM

Looking south on Broadway at 8th Street, downtown Los Angeles, 1935.
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...5b&oe=5E0CC9FA
Vintage Everyday


Looking west on 7th Street at Broadway, downtown Los Angeles, 1935.
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...8e&oe=5DC8F688
Vintage Everyday


7th and Hope Streets, downtown Los Angeles, 1933.
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...4c&oe=5E163ADA
Vintage Everyday

sopas ej Aug 31, 2019 2:31 AM

Crowds at Broadway and 7th Street, downtown Los Angeles, 1930. Doesn't the lady on the left somehow look 1970s, or something? She was ahead of her time.
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...85&oe=5DD2EC66
Vintage Everyday

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...cd&oe=5E10F468
Vintage Everyday


Looking south on Broadway from 4th Street, downtown Los Angeles, 1931.
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...9e&oe=5E0A9775
Vintage Everyday

ethereal_reality Aug 31, 2019 5:12 AM

:previous: Fantastic photographs, sopas_ej. Thanks for posting them. :)



"1953 - Original Kodachrome Slide / 2 Tourists Pose in Front of the Hollywood & Vine Drug Store."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/qzkBoM.jpg
eBay


I'd like to have the two advertisements. (I can't think of the correct word for them) --placards? no. ummm..flyers? no ..one sheets?

-note the 6290 address.

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ethereal_reality Aug 31, 2019 5:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 8673177)
Oh, my, yes. His shenanigans drove my poor grandmother to distraction. He had been an artilleryman, 2 batteries down from Harry Truman.
He'd visit us, get drunk, sing "The Cannoneers Have Hairy Ears" (great book, BTW) and pass out on the couch.

Cheers,

Earl

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/C8PkLa.jpg
i.pinimg

The poor guy wasn't holding on when they took off. :lmao:





I also located another photograph of the Lawrence, Indiana Flying Pegasus. (Peggy)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/hMm2df.jpg
i.pinimg


Do any of you car fans know how they did this trick? ... (the car equivalent of popping a wheelie)



Original photo of Peggy in Los Angeles HERE
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Godzilla Aug 31, 2019 5:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 8673395)
Broadway and Temple, downtown Los Angeles, 1932. My apologies if this picture has been posted before.


No apology necessary. Slightly smaller format courtesy of MReyerson. Per his NLA posts, the source images are from USC's D.Whittington collection. >>
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13645


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13442

ethereal_reality Aug 31, 2019 6:40 AM



Zeferino Ramirez Funeral Home, 4545 Brooklyn Ave.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/rdCB2h.jpg
smithsonian

Most people would think this is in New York City. ...(Brooklyn, to be exact)






Today, the Rameriz Funeral Home is El Gallo Plaza. (as most of you know..Brooklyn Ave. is now Cesar Chavez Ave.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/4pv99y.jpg
GSV







I tracked down a few photographs of the interior.

This is, obviously, the main room....the old viewing room. ...s p o o k y

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/PadPP2.jpg
sinosoul



And a rather dark and dank hallway.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/czvRdJ.jpg
sinosoul





Lastly, a corner of the old waiting room.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/4672/3FHCYT.gif

;)



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HossC Aug 31, 2019 8:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8674310)

"1953 - Original Kodachrome Slide / 2 Tourists Pose in Front of the Hollywood & Vine Drug Store."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/qzkBoM.jpg
eBay


I'd like to have the two advertisements. (I can't think of the correct word for them) --placards? no. ummm..flyers? no ..one sheets?

-note the 6290 address.

The 1956 CD lists the Owl Drug Co at 6290 Hollywood Boulevard. Here's a circa 1950 image of the Taft Building showing the open corner. Starbucks now occupies that location, and the windows go all the way to the corner pillar again, as they did originally.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...tBuilding1.jpg
LAPL

Earl Boebert Aug 31, 2019 6:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8674317)

Could well be :)

I don't think he missed a convention right up to the time he was called up for WWII.

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality Aug 31, 2019 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8674352)
The windows go all the way to the corner pillar again, as they did originally.

I'm not sure what you mean by "the windows go all the way to the corner pillar", Hoss.

I always rhought the window(s) are at a diagonal behind the pillar.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/zw8ndE.jpg
Complete image HERE......................................................................





This angle shows the distance between the pillar and the large diagonal window. [c.1947]


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/RIzVlh.jpg
martinturnbull

Perhaps I'm just reading your comment incorrectly, Hoss. :shrug:

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ethereal_reality Aug 31, 2019 11:00 PM

A mystery location.


"VINTAGE PHOTOGRAPH 1930 TRUCK CAR SIGN STONE FENCE LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA PHOTO"


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/A5WRkX.jpg
eBay

The rather ornate area, with the wrought iron lampposts, stone walls and oversized urns, seems somewhat familiar to me. I'm thinking it's somewhere in the South Bay area. :shrug:





A closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/aIonnz.jpg

. . .see the fancy urns?

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HossC Sep 1, 2019 8:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8674713)

I'm not sure what you mean by "the windows go all the way to the corner pillar", Hoss.

I always thought the window(s) are at a diagonal behind the pillar.

I based my comment on the fact that I can't see the diagonal in this earlier image. Maybe I'm reading it, and so far I haven't found another view with the awnings.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...tBuilding1.jpg
LAPL

As I said, the windows certainly do go to the corner now.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...tBuilding2.jpg
GSV

ethereal_reality Sep 1, 2019 5:13 PM

o o p s....I didn't remember how the Taft Building looked originally.
If I had only gone to Google Street Views I would have understood. ...

Thanks for answering my question. I appreciate it, Hoss.



Happy Labor Day Weekend, everyone!

Volunteer laborers building the 1st Presbyterian church in Eagle Rock. [c.1909]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/IUSYoK.jpg
lapl

A rare example of the bungalow church. (later known as Creswell Hall)

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Earl Boebert Sep 1, 2019 10:36 PM

San Berdoo in Ninety-Two
 
http://www.boebertandblossom.com/LANoir/SanBerdoo.jpg

From Charles Dudley Warner's "A Year in Italy,-Our Italy ... With ... illustrations," published in 1892.

More on Warner here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Dudley_Warner

From the British Library Flickr site.

Cheers,

Earl

Lorendoc Sep 2, 2019 6:59 AM

mystery bridge
 
I was looking through the Huntington Library photo collection and found this one which I don't remember seeing here:

https://i.imgur.com/ZF3UOzJ.jpg
Huntington Library

It's labeled: "Street scene in Los Angeles, showing a man in the road at a distance, and streetcar tracks going down the middle of the street. Buildings line the unidentified street." Where is this?

This photo is zoomable and shows some interesting details.

https://i.imgur.com/93htG7c.jpg

On the left is a billboard for "Maier" (brewery?). On the right is a sign which says (I think) "Railroad - Look Out". A man is standing in the middle of the street holding some sort of flag. Is he a flagman for the railroad? Further down the street are a series of barriers dividing the street into thirds.

The obvious location clue is the ad for the Diamond Coal company. Also, looking closely at the right edge of the photo, we can see a street number on a building which looks like 608.

https://i.imgur.com/738af5a.jpg

I looked at the 1910 CD for Diamond Coal and found:

https://i.imgur.com/0G9UEAA.jpg
lapl.org

There are a number of addresses associated with the Diamond Coal company. The addresses on W 3rd and S Main seem highly unlikely, given the sparseness of buildings. So I looked at the Aliso address in the 1910 Baist Bros atlas:

https://i.imgur.com/bZDOScl.jpg
historicmapworks.com

The building with "608" is marked on the Baist map as "Cracker and Candy." I searched for 608 Aliso in the 1909 CD and found the Kahn-Beck Co., cracker manufacturers, at 600-608 Aliso. (Not sure I'd like to eat crackers produced right next to a coal yard and an oil-and-gas plant across the street.)

So we are looking down the Aliso Street Bridge, with the barriers shown on the 1896 Sanborn, providing separate lanes for "foot passengers", wagons and street cars.

https://i.imgur.com/KAMwaa6.jpg
lapl.org
https://i.imgur.com/Avdxc6v.jpg
lapl.org

Lastly, this image from KCET from a few years later (?) shows the same pole constructions over the roadway that the original photo has:

https://i.imgur.com/oxxuxjh.jpg

HossC posted on this subject 6 years ago.

T.J.P. Sep 2, 2019 1:01 PM

filming location
 
I know this is off topic, but I am cross-referencing filming locations from old TV shows and thought maybe one of you L.A. historians might recognize this building, which I suppose is somewhere in the Greater Los Angeles area.

The screen grabs are from productions that aired in 1985, but since they are stock footage from film libraries, they might have been photographed earlier.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
This first link shows the property in daylight. It is a screen grab from # 4.20 of "The Fall Guy", a 1985 episode entitled "Spring Break". It's just an establishing shot -- no scene for this episode was filmed at that location.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
There are two guards visible in the clip from "The Fall Guy", one on the balcony on the right and another one between the trees more to the left. This second link is just to show the size and height of the building in question.

The same property was featured in an explosion on "Falcon Crest" in 1985. That was stock footage, too. "Falcon" never filmed there either. Here are screen grabs from
"Falcon Crest":
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/

Does anyone have any idea what and where this might be?

T.J.P. Sep 2, 2019 1:07 PM

I know this is off topic, but I am cross-referencing filming locations from old TV shows and thought maybe one of you L.A. historians might recognize this building, which I suppose is somewhere in the Greater Los Angeles area.

The screen grabs are from productions that aired in 1985, but since they are stock footage from film libraries, they might have been photographed earlier.

www.flickr.com/photos/37847653@N05/48664848251/in/dateposted-public/
This first link shows the property in daylight. It is a screen grab from # 4.20 of "The Fall Guy", a 1985 episode entitled "Spring Break". It's just an establishing shot -- no scene for this episode was filmed at that location.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
There are two guards visible in the clip from "The Fall Guy", one on the balcony on the right and another one between the trees more to the left. This second link is just to show the size and height of the building in question.

The same property was featured in an explosion on "Falcon Crest" in 1985. That was stock footage, too. "Falcon" never filmed there either. Here are screen grabs from
"Falcon Crest":
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/

Sorry I was unable to post the photos right here. I tried to add them, but they remained invisible. So I added the links.

Does anyone have any idea what and where this might be?

MichaelRyerson Sep 2, 2019 3:46 PM

Relative to the recent discussion of the Mt Hollywood Trail...
 
I think this is a great image of the current ridge line trail...(from a friend's flickr stream) We don't see the Hollywood sign from this side very often...

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...787d24ca_o.jpgPanorama looking north from 1,625 foot Mt Hollywood, Mitch Barrie

(Be sure to scroll right...)

That's 1,708 foot Mt Lee at left (with Hollywood sign below the summit); then 1,820 foot Cahuenga Peak just behind it to the right; then 1,614 foot Mt Chapel;
then 1,582 foot Mt Bell; and finally Mt Baby Bell to the right. M.B.

On loan from Mitch Barrie's photo stream. With Glendale/Burbank on the right and Cahuenga Pass somewhere in the foothill jumble below and to the left of Mt. Lee,
I think this offers a superior view of the ridge line trail.

BillinGlendaleCA Sep 2, 2019 8:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 8675595)
I think this is a great image of the current ridge line trail...(from a friend's flickr stream) We don't see the Hollywood sign from this side very often...

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...787d24ca_o.jpgPanorama looking north from 1,625 foot Mt Hollywood, Mitch Barrie

(Be sure to scroll right...)

That's 1,708 foot Mt Lee at left (with Hollywood sign below the summit); then 1,820 foot Cahuenga Peak just behind it to the right; then 1,614 foot Mt Chapel;
then 1,582 foot Mt Bell; and finally Mt Baby Bell to the right. M.B.

On loan from Mitch Barrie's photo stream. With Glendale/Burbank on the right and Cahuenga Pass somewhere in the foothill jumble below and to the left of Mt. Lee,
I think this offers a superior view of the ridge line trail.

I think one of the pictures that ER posted a few weeks ago was taken just to the right(out of frame). You can also see Mulholland "Highway" (actually a trail) from Mt. Lee Road to the left to Mt. Hollywood Road at the right below Mt. Chapel. Baby Mt. Bell is sometimes called "Taco Peak" and for about a year had a teahouse just below the summit.

https://live.staticflickr.com/462/19...e5466cb0_b.jpg20150714_150155 by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

MichaelRyerson Sep 2, 2019 9:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8675742)
I think one of the pictures that ER posted a few weeks ago was taken just to the right(out of frame). You can also see Mulholland "Highway" (actually a trail) from Mt. Lee Road to the left to Mt. Hollywood Road at the right below Mt. Chapel. Baby Mt. Bell is sometimes called "Taco Peak" and for about a year had a teahouse just below the summit.

https://live.staticflickr.com/462/19...e5466cb0_b.jpg20150714_150155 by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr


Oh, I think you're exactly right. They've obviously rebuilt the tea house over the years. Still looks good though, not too pristine.

BillinGlendaleCA Sep 2, 2019 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 8675773)
Oh, I think you're exactly right. They've obviously rebuilt the tea house over the years. Still looks good though, not too pristine.

Actually it was a flash project that a bunch of folk did one morning. Parks and Rec said it wouldn't work there and moved it about 6 months after it was built. They were planning putting it somewhere, but as far as I know, it's still in storage.

ETA: I guess it was only there for 2 months...Here's a bit more on it(and where it was): https://socalhiker.net/hike-to-the-g...park-teahouse/.

Beaudry Sep 3, 2019 1:38 AM

Thought this was pretty cool, a little bit of Old LA coming back, sorta kinda. More Perry Mason filming, images shot recently and posted to Instagram.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ac9f5e82_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a15dd902_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...17ef7d32_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...99330013_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...220a2923_b.jpg

Handsome Stranger Sep 4, 2019 1:17 AM

Mount Wilson Hotel Resort?
 
I've been digging through boxes of family photos looking for pictures of my dad, who passed away quite recently. In one box I stumbled across this undated brochure. I don't think this attraction has been previously mentioned at Noirish Los Angeles, but I could be wrong.

https://i.postimg.cc/W1G1qhjq/MW-1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/q7pMs4Mb/MW-2.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Dz5f5HS2/MW-3.jpg

If anyone can share additional photos or information about the hotel, it would be much appreciated.

Scott Charles Sep 4, 2019 1:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 8676786)
I've been digging through boxes of family photos looking for pictures of my dad, who passed away quite recently.

My condolences, Handsome Stranger. My dad passed away just a few years ago, and I still miss him.

:(

T.J.P. Sep 4, 2019 5:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.J.P. (Post 8675479)
I know this is off topic, but I am cross-referencing filming locations from old TV shows and thought maybe one of you L.A. historians might recognize this building, which I suppose is somewhere in the Greater Los Angeles area.

The screen grabs are from productions that aired in 1985, but since they are stock footage from film libraries, they might have been photographed earlier.

www.flickr.com/photos/37847653@N05/48664848251/in/dateposted-public/
This first link shows the property in daylight. It is a screen grab from # 4.20 of "The Fall Guy", a 1985 episode entitled "Spring Break". It's just an establishing shot -- no scene for this episode was filmed at that location.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
There are two guards visible in the clip from "The Fall Guy", one on the balcony on the right and another one between the trees more to the left. This second link is just to show the size and height of the building in question.

The same property was featured in an explosion on "Falcon Crest" in 1985. That was stock footage, too. "Falcon" never filmed there either. Here are screen grabs from
"Falcon Crest":
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/

Sorry I was unable to post the photos right here. I tried to add them, but they remained invisible. So I added the links.

Does anyone have any idea what and where this might be?


No need to look any longer for the location I tried to identify. Somebody informed me it's Walker McCune's home at 6066 North Paradise View Drive in Paradise Valley, AZ. This seems to be correct. Thanks for taking a look to everyone!

ethereal_reality Sep 4, 2019 6:06 AM

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When a person thinks of cantilevered architecture most think of FLW's Fallingwater.


Few remember the cantilevered wing at the Huntington Hotel in Pasadena. [shown below]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/Z6oOWw.jpg

The Huntington Hotel and Swimming Pool, Pasadena California.






Seriously now:

Is it just me, or is this rppc creating an optical illusion?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/T7ZPdz.jpg
eBay


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ethereal_reality Sep 4, 2019 6:30 AM

I don't believe we have seen this RPPC on NLA.

John T. Harris Jeweler - Optical. (formerly Schepps & Harris) c.1911


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/jNs62v.jpg
Found a few days ago on eBay. No longer listed.

You can see the street number, 761 , between Jeweler and Optical.


THE REVERSE
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/Q0SBiW.jpg


I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your father, Handsome Stranger.


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ethereal_reality Sep 4, 2019 6:50 AM

One more RPPC for tonight.

RPPC REAL PHOTO / Leo D. Hyer's House, 1576 W. 37th Place, Los Angeles California [c.1910]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/o0HvUK.jpg
eBay



For easier reading.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/CQxf7G.jpg


There's a possibility the home is still there...but I can't decide if it's the same house.

You can check it out for yourself HERE (it's about the same size..but the dormer is missing) :shrug:

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Scott Charles Sep 4, 2019 9:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8676966)
RPPC REAL PHOTO / Leo D. Hyer's House, 1576 W. 37th Place, Los Angeles California [c.1910]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/o0HvUK.jpg

There's a possibility the home is still there...but I can't decide if it's the same house.

You can check it out for yourself HERE (it's about the same size..but the dormer is missing) :shrug:

I think that the entire front section of the modern-day house is an add-on.

The roofs face in different directions in the old and the modern photo (90° from each other). Also, the winding path in the old photo is much longer than the modern-day front yard would allow.

If you get rid of the yellow section below, the house would pretty much match the layout of the old photo.

https://i.imgur.com/iEXBQTN.jpg

Also, the house in question is the only house on the street that doesn't sit back a good 20 feet from the sidewalk - which again makes me think that the yellow section in the photo above is an add-on.

https://i.imgur.com/7eyqGEc.gif

That's my guess and I'm sticking to it! :haha:

CityBoyDoug Sep 4, 2019 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8676953)
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When a person thinks of cantilevered architecture most think of FLW's Fallingwater.


Few remember the cantilevered wing at the Huntington Hotel in Pasadena. [shown below]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/Z6oOWw.jpg
...................................................................................Heavily damaged in the 1933 earthquake. The wing was removed a few years later.

The Huntington Hotel and Swimming Pool, Pasadena California.






Seriously now:

Is it just me, or is this rppc creating an optical illusion.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/T7ZPdz.jpg
eBay


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As a kid, I dipped in that pool a few times. But what I remember most was the lush Bermuda grass on both sides of the pool. You even got a huge hotel towel to use. The public could use the pool for a dollar.

That hotel was my landing place for the Airport Bus in my Navy days. LAX <-> Huntington Hotel $3 one way....I think the bus left every two or three hours. We lived about 2 miles distant at that time.

Thanks ER for the memories. [I believe the ivy on the side of the hotel gives an illusion.]

GaylordWilshire Sep 4, 2019 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8676958)
I don't believe we have seen this RPPC on NLA.

John T. Harris Jeweler - Optical. (formerly Schepps & Harris) c.1911


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/jNs62v.jpg
Found a few days ago on eBay. No longer listed.

You can see the street number, 761 , between Jeweler and Optical.


THE REVERSE
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/Q0SBiW.jpg


I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your father, Handsome Stranger.


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The name "Schepps" on the window got me wondering if there was a connection between "Formerly Schepps & Harris" and a well-known store here in NY, if not so much to tourists, who of course prefer initials and name recognition. Turns out there is a connection...

From https://www.freemansauction.com/news...seaman-schepps
"Born in New York City in 1881, Seaman Schepps created an eponymous jewelry house, becoming known as “America’s Court Jeweler” for his unique, bold designs, worn by the country’s most prominent society families.

The son of immigrants, his humble beginnings led him to sit outside of the boutique of quintessential New York jeweler David Webb and sketch drawings for his own designs. Schepps left the Lower East Side of Manhattan around the turn of the century, finding work as a traveling salesman in Los Angeles and San Francisco. It was in California that he opened his first jewelry store, “The Virginia Studios,” named for his eldest daughter.

After returning to New York in 1921 with his wife and two children, Schepps opened a store on 6th Avenue, near the storied Algonquin Hotel. He expanded a few years later to a second location, but the stock market crash of 1929 forced Schepps to shutter both shops. The sudden forced closure lasted five years, during which time here focused his business strategy, and when Schepps reopened in 1934at a new location on Madison Avenue, he had developed his own exclusive jewelry designs."


http://seamanschepps.com/

https://i.postimg.cc/1tQ2hTq7/seamanschepps-bmp.jpgGSV


But back to Los Angeles. Schepps appears to have first had a store, one without Harris in the name, at 621 S. Broadway, as early as 1909. Here is news from the LAT of Oct 3, 1920, on Schepps's Virginia Studios:

https://i.postimg.cc/XNFKyJt5/SSpic-LAT-bmp.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/XY9tH4ZB/SSarticle1-bmp.jpg

Noir_Noir Sep 4, 2019 12:53 PM

1576 W 37th Place
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8676994)


With apologies for the poor wanton commandeering of your graphic Scott Charles. :yes:



The original 1907 house was a tiny ol' thing.


First add-on to the rear in 1919.

https://i.imgur.com/jnvYOkv.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org



Second add-on to the front in 1936.

https://i.imgur.com/DAEhPAh.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org



Resulting in


https://i.imgur.com/lDlBKqu.jpg

odinthor Sep 4, 2019 4:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8677025)
The name "Schepps" on the window got me wondering if there was a connection between "Formerly Schepps & Harris" and a well-known store here in NY, if not so much to tourists, who of course prefer initials and name recognition. Turns out there is a connection...

From https://www.freemansauction.com/news...seaman-schepps
"Born in New York City in 1881, Seaman Schepps created an eponymous jewelry house, becoming known as “America’s Court Jeweler” for his unique, bold designs, worn by the country’s most prominent society families.

The son of immigrants, his humble beginnings led him to sit outside of the boutique of quintessential New York jeweler David Webb and sketch drawings for his own designs. Schepps left the Lower East Side of Manhattan around the turn of the century, finding work as a traveling salesman in Los Angeles and San Francisco. It was in California that he opened his first jewelry store, “The Virginia Studios,” named for his eldest daughter.

After returning to New York in 1921 with his wife and two children, Schepps opened a store on 6th Avenue, near the storied Algonquin Hotel. He expanded a few years later to a second location, but the stock market crash of 1929 forced Schepps to shutter both shops. The sudden forced closure lasted five years, during which time here focused his business strategy, and when Schepps reopened in 1934at a new location on Madison Avenue, he had developed his own exclusive jewelry designs."


http://seamanschepps.com/

https://i.postimg.cc/1tQ2hTq7/seamanschepps-bmp.jpgGSV


But back to Los Angeles. Schepps appears to have first had a store, one without Harris in the name, at 621 S. Broadway, as early as 1909. Here is news from the LAT of Oct 3, 1920, on Schepps's Virginia Studios:

https://i.postimg.cc/XNFKyJt5/SSpic-LAT-bmp.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/XY9tH4ZB/SSarticle1-bmp.jpg


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It seems in keeping with Noirishness to look a moment into the demise of Mr. John T. Harris, "Successor to Schepps & Harris" (but not for very long . . . ):

https://i.postimg.cc/sX3rXW7c/John-THarris2-14-12.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/DySK8nJt/Harris2-20-12.jpg
both images from L.A. Times (dates as given in the images) via ProQuest via CSULB Library. Layout of articles rearranged for your viewing pleasure.

Does it strike me as interesting that "a young man, who works as an accountant at the club, was at work in Harris' room from 8 o'clock until 11 yesterday morning. He says he heard Harris snore. Manager Witt says that he does not know the name of this young man"? Nope, nothing odd at all about any of that. Company accountants in social clubs frequently do their best work in the rooms of guests of the establishment; and how can managers be expected to know the names of office employees? And I'm certain that the fact that this was the night before Valentine's Day is a mere happenstance. Fie on anyone who would see anything out of the ordinary in any of this!

Kidding aside, sorry, Mr. Harris, you had to live a life of personal and social challenges, with such an end.

GaylordWilshire Sep 4, 2019 4:56 PM

:previous:


More on Schepps in LA--apparently he was a BSD at the LAAC, which is interesting considering that J. T. Harris died at the club, as odinthor has just dicovered:

https://i.postimg.cc/02JwRt1D/famouschepps1-bmp.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/KYKzBjcL/seamanscheppsinc-bmp.jpg
LAHerald Aug 3, 1908/Apr 13, 1909

Scott Charles Sep 4, 2019 4:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8677051)
With apologies for the poor wanton commandeering of your graphic Scott Charles. :yes:

The original 1907 house was a tiny ol' thing.

First add-on to the rear in 1919.

https://i.imgur.com/jnvYOkv.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org

Second add-on to the front in 1936.

https://i.imgur.com/DAEhPAh.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org

Resulting in

https://i.imgur.com/lDlBKqu.jpg

Wow, great sleuthing there, Noir_Noir! That old house seems to have about tripled in size!

Earl Boebert Sep 4, 2019 5:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8677324)
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It seems in keeping with Noirishness to look a moment into the demise of Mr. John T. Harris, "Successor to Schepps & Harris" (but not for very long . . . ):

https://i.postimg.cc/sX3rXW7c/John-THarris2-14-12.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/DySK8nJt/Harris2-20-12.jpg
both images from L.A. Times (dates as given in the images) via ProQuest via CSULB Library. Layout of articles rearranged for your viewing pleasure.

Does it strike me as interesting that "a young man, who works as an accountant at the club, was at work in Harris' room from 8 o'clock until 11 yesterday morning. He says he heard Harris snore. Manager Witt says that he does not know the name of this young man"? Nope, nothing odd at all about any of that. Company accountants in social clubs frequently do their best work in the rooms of guests of the establishment; and how can managers be expected to know the names of office employees? And I'm certain that the fact that this was the night before Valentine's Day is a mere happenstance. Fie on anyone who would see anything out of the ordinary in any of this!

Kidding aside, sorry, Mr. Harris, you had to live a life of personal and social challenges, with such an end.

Sounds like a classic case of sleep apnea. History of heart trouble and audible snoring.

Earl

Flyingwedge Sep 4, 2019 7:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 8676786)
I've been digging through boxes of family photos looking for pictures of my dad, who passed away quite recently. In one box I stumbled across this undated brochure. I don't think this attraction has been previously mentioned at Noirish Los Angeles, but I could be wrong.

https://i.postimg.cc/W1G1qhjq/MW-1.jpg

If anyone can share additional photos or information about the hotel, it would be much appreciated.

My condolences too, HS.


The hotel in this October 22, 1930, photo appears to be the same building shown in your brochure. Please note the tree behind the hotel
at the center of the photo:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...pse1hbvbxy.jpg

248055 @ Huntington Digital Library



This c. 1907 photo shows an earlier version of the Mount Wilson Hotel before it burned down in 1913. The tree I've arrowed is the same
one that's behind the hotel in the center of the previous photo:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...ps4ekldlhm.jpg

24883 @ Huntington Digital Library


There are other photos of both versions of the Mount Wilson Hotel at the Huntington Digital Library.

odinthor Sep 4, 2019 8:38 PM

I became interested in John T. Harris' home address, 600 S. Coronado St.:

https://i.postimg.cc/y8RLpMQx/600-SCoronado-Summary.jpg

(Oops, I forgot to caption that last one from 1906: It's from the LA Times of July 15, 1906.)

It seems to have been a single family residence early on, and apartments later.

Now if I only had a picture of the place! The address appears to be just barely off the 1909 Bird's Eye map of L.A.


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