Did you know that those two tall buildings were designed by the same designer of the twin towers in New York City? Although these two are 1/3 as tall as those were.

I should say that I was told that once, but have never personally verified that information.
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So, wikipedia says: "Commissioned by Alcoa, the [Century City] towers were designed by Minoru Yamasaki and completed in 1975. The towers resemble Yamasaki's World Trade Center in their vertical black and gray lines and the use of aluminum exteriors. The towers have an unusual triangular footprint and are landmarks that are clearly seen around the Los Angeles Westside. Their prominence in the Century City skyline has been reduced in recent years with the addition of new skyscrapers that partially block their view, nevertheless, the Century Plaza Towers remain the tallest buildings in Century City and the tallest skyscrapers in Southern California outside of downtown Los Angeles. The towers sit atop one of the world's largest underground parking garages with a capacity of roughly 5,000 cars."

FYI:
Century Plaza Towers: 44 stories
WTC: 110 stories

The wikipedia entry goes on to describe some TV series, movies, music videos and commercials they can be seen in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_Plaza_Towers

Here's a shot from the hill at roughly the center of ER's blown up portion of the original:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1912/...2ce03601_b.jpg_2060051.jpg by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

This is why I think ER's 1979 shot shows where Beverly Park North is now, shot from Mulholland.

:previous: Wow...you guys have been busy! Good job in figuring out the two mystery locations. I appreciate all your help.
[sleuthing ribbons for everyone!]





This next mystery takes place many years before the two from yesterday.

I'll call this quest.....The 'mystery' of Euclid Hill.

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EBAY search purposes: Cromwell & Westervelt P.O. Box 832, Los Angeles. The Great Eastern Photographic and Advertising Company.

As you can see..Euclid Hill is written in white on the photograph....along with Residence of S.A. Widney. (we're looking toward the north-east in the photograph)

At first I wasn't even sure if this was Los Angeles (the word 'Eastern' in the name of the advertising company threw me off)

And if this is Euclid Hill...where's the damn hill? :shrug:

Does anyone know if there was a section of Los Angeles known as Euclid Hill? [minus the hill]
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Also curious is the name S.A. Widney.

Could this family be related to the Widneys of Widney Hall, the oldest building on the USC campus?


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Thanks odinthor, NLA's in-house horticulturist. :)




I think you'll have a field day with this next photograph odinthor.

"Mulholland at Multiview Drive, Los Angeles, California." 1991

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HERE
smithsonian archive / Karen Halverson

BE SURE TO PAN RIGHT to see the intersection ------->




I believe this is the same spot. [in 2017]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/niCqtp.jpg

GSV

I'm not not sure of the purpose of that sandy area that, somewhat, resembles a little beach. (you can see it in the 1991 photograph as well)

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I found Samuel A Widney living on Euclid Hill in the 1886-7 and 1887-1888 (Smith & McPhee) CDs. The former lists him in business with William W Widney as proprietors of the California Novelty Store at 22 N Main, while the latter shows Samuel as sole proprietor with a second store at 537 E 1st Street (William is listed under real estate). Before the move to Euclid Hill, Samuel & William already had the novelty store at 22 N Main, but Samuel was living at 255 S Olive and William was at 333 W 4th.

The Great Eastern Photographic and Advertising Co only appears in the 1888 CD, with William J Cromwell, Lewis C Westervelt & Charles H Hammerton as proprietors. The address is given as "N s Louisiana Av nr Lottie, Boyle Heights".

I'm pretty sure that Euclid Hill became Euclid Avenue (with the Baist maps showing it as Euclid Street), but trying to track down the cross streets was difficult as nearly all appear to have changed names. For example, the 1888 CD lists Samuel A Widney as "res NW cor Euclid and Willie, Boyle Heights", with references to Willie being around Lottie and Louisiana Ave (just like the photographic company). In 1893, the path of Euclid is listed as "fm East Fourth SW bet Fresno, Drown and Carleton Av, Boyle Heights, East Fourth, Eagle, Melvin, Madison, Willie, Monroe, Adelaide, Stephenson Av". Most of these names don't even exist on the 1910 Baist map, let alone Google maps. I then compared this description with one from the 1895 CD, which I think may answer our question. Euclid Avenue's listing is "fm E 1st SW bet Soto and Lorena, Boyle Heights, East Fourth, Eagle, Melvin Madison, East Sixth, Monroe, Adelaide, Stephenson, Sunrise, Harriett, Lee, Dawn". This would suggest that Willie became E Sixth Street.

Interestingly, the 1895 CD shows Samuel A Widney as a clergyman and publishers' agent, with his address as "Euclid bet. E and E Sixth". I skipped on to 1898, and found more of the family. As well as Samuel A Widney at 519 Euclid, there's also Miss Ida A Widney and Miss Nina B Widney living there. Samuel is a still a publisher's agent, working at 2 Widney Block, 127 W 1st Street (he was at this address in 1895, but the Widney Block wasn't mentioned), while William is working in real estate and insurance next door at 1 Widney Block. There's also a Joseph P Widney listed as "pastor and supt" of the Church of the Nazarene, whose office is also at 127 W 1st Street.

The last mention I found of Samuel A Widney at 519 Euclid is in the 1900-1901 CD. He's back to being listed as a clergyman.

Throughout my searching, I couldn't get this scene from 'The Big Bang Theory' out of my head :):

• Video Link

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As a corollary, there's a September 3, 1913 building permit to move 519 Euclid Avenue to 2922 Euclid Place, but where's Euclid Place? The comtemporary CDs list it as "West from Euclid av. 1 blk S of Lanfranco". The only BP I found for 2922 Euclid Place was a 1978 one to repair a roof damaged by fire at 2920-24 Euclid Place, which is listed as an apartment house. As far as I can see, sometime between 1978 and 1987, Euclid Place became Calle Pedro Infante, which has La Casa Del Mexicano at the end.

The newly built Casa Del Mexicano shows up on the left of this December 17, 1931 aerial view. There's a 2013 LA Times article about it here.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...clidPlace1.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

Samuel A Widney's old house might be the one below "Pedro", but I'm certainly not sure. The house has since been replaced. Assuming that I'm right about Willie becoming E 6th, they didn't have far to move the house.

Bullock's Wilshire department store late at night
 

From the same collection of photos as the one of the Brown Derby I posted recently comes this equally atmospheric photo of Bullocks Wilshire department. We're looking south from Westmoreland Ave at what appears to be late at night some time in the 1940s. I love how the lighting turned the top of the tower into a shining beacon and how the lights from the window displays throw the palm trees on the left into silhouette.

https://martinturnbull.com/wp-conten...1940s-copy.jpg

Hey! That's my great-grandfather's shoe store behind that regrettable "Injun" and it sure is Pasadena. They moved to a newly remodeled location at 33 S. Lake in November 1959.

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;8332078]STEREOTYPES ON PARADE

"1959 Hollywood, California Children's Parade Los Angeles, Orig. Photo Slides"

Despite the seller's description above, I am certain this is PASADENA.

"Injun"
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EBAY

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A little early-20th-century noir involving the esteemed family of Pio Pico... Surely this must be a case of mistaken identity—surely a relative of Pio Pico—a member of the celebrated Pico clan—could not have been the "sporting queen of Los Angeles"....but it seems one was. LA's own Belle Watling.

A child bride who later had "scarlet parlors" on Aliso Street, Cathalena Todd Church Donahue Bell Morrow Weller appears to have dropped out of the "half world" between husbands two and three to go into real estate development with her sister, Desea. One of their projects, and where they lived from 1907 to 1914, was on the nec of Wilton Place and Venice Blvd, seen above. (A Dingbatish apt house is on the site today.)

The full story is here

Camelot on Wilshire? Walter Scott's Lady of the La Brea?

This undated LAPL image is captioned "fanicful walled building" and appears to fit with the above images. Perhaps it looks more appealing in color, but it suggests a place to escape from rather than visit. Ready the grappling hook.

Source indicates that the sign above the entrance may include the words "Sports Town." Curious about the two story structure to the right of the walled structure, which might have had a Wilshire address. Could it be a place for the knights to retreat after a long day of jousting?;)

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FW's discussion of the Von Keiths begets a closer look at George Ralphs, and one might assume the Von Keiths visited Mr. Ralph's Hollywood Boulevard castle/residence. Source (LAPL) erroneously identifies the Ralphs residence as 6400 Hollywood Blvd., (Cahuenga and Hollywood). Per B&P cite, Ralphs' residence was at 7269 Hollywood Boulevard having been permitted for new construction there in May 1913. The property was eventually purchased by movie mogul/pioneer, Joseph M. Schenck. In 1940 some of the structure was moved to 1637 Rimpau Blvd. (Between Venice and St. Charles), while another part of the structure was moved to a location at 454 No . La Cienega Blvd. (Between Rosewood and Oakwood Avenues.):shrug:



From FW's linked cite:

George Ralphs
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The Ralphs residence at 7269 Hollywood Boulevard.
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fantastic fotos...wow

note all the pumping oil wells......$$$

Thanks, e_r! :bowtie:

We're lookin' at Agave attenuata (front center, and with the long dangly attenuate flower stalks), a gray form of Agave americana; and one of the many species of Aloe (I like Aloes a lot, and used to study them; fun to grow from seed; the first leaf coming up from seed looks like a little green fingernail coming up through the soil), possibly a not-very-robust Aloe arborescens.


It has the air of something which was the flat part of the landscaping at first but which became a convenient turn-out for reasons unknown, and stayed that way. Or maybe there was some sort of roadside stand there at one time. Hmmmmmmmmmmm... :shrug:

These photos need to be examined again and more closely. Lots of
LA history here....

Picture #5 is especially interesting.

I think your explanation of the sandy area is a good one odinthor. If you look closely, you can see remnants of a curb.

Once again, thanks for identifying the plants.
This one in Echo Park is about to eat a car.

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DEBORAH NETBURN LATIMESBLOG

feed me, Seymour!
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ERIC DUCKER LATIMESBLOG

If I were good at photo-shop I'd add screaming people inside the car.

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Thanks so much Hoss for looking into S.A. Whidney & his family

I checked the city directories as well. The last mention of 'Euclid Hill', as a particular place, is in the 1891 directory.

This one, correct? [outlined in red below]
It does appears to have gables like the house in 1880 photograph.

once more.
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found on ebay


The seller mentioned that a tricycle was visible in the photograph...but if you look closely, I believe the young lad is leaning on a BIcycle.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/f5JN5a.jpgdetail

OK, I just realized I am WRONG. It is a tricycle.
The rear wheel are much larger than I expected.



Thanks again Hoss.

One of a kind photograph.

Human Pyramid, USC [1910?]

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EBAY

note on back:"Circa 1908-1911 USC , Body Pyra."



I've been trying to read what is written on the scoreboard.

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hmmm....is it "Dyas Co."...."79 gas co."...."19gas Co." :shrug:

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Dancy's Peerless Market No.2, Los Angeles Calif.

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EBAY

I found two addresses in the 1923 directory for Dancy 'meats'. As you can see, this is market #2. (back wall)

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lapl

But it's impossible know which address is market #1 and which is market #2
Right?






Let's take a closer look at the two gentlemen behind the counter.

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:previous: hmmm....I wonder what it says above the word PAPER on that calendar?






it looks like "Blake Moffitt & Towne PAPER"
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This is prob. the company that supplies the paper to wrap up the cuts of meat.

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lapl

(page 283 is an advertisement. it's kind of ugly)


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I'd say that #2 was the W 54th St location...Dancy was listed as having a meat market at 3902 S Western in the 1920 CD, the store having had other owners before that--plus, he lived just around the corner; 1355 W 54th was a meat market prior to Dancy's occupancy--listed in the '22 CD under the name of Anton Hohendorf....