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Redwine Bldg. Los Angeles - 1975 - mystery location. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/64YKHO.jpg eBay Any ideas where this might be? The rear entrance to Musso & Franks in March 1975. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/PwOknd.jpg That's probably the chef's car. He's ready for a quick take off. Does anyone know what the back of Musso & Frank's looks like today? (I hope they at least straightened that sign) . |
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mystery location #2 (for April 6th) When I first saw this snapshot I thought 'business man and assistant'. . .but know I'm thinking man and wife. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/GYcPD3.jpg eBay Boy, that is a lot of litter. Here's a closer look at the buildings in the distance. (note the GIANT ANT on the roof of the May Co.) https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/9yzQaA.jpg detail https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/9782/AtoCnU.gif . |
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It's on Las Palmas between Hollywood and Selma. I've walked past it hundreds of times. Buster Keaton filmed a scene in front of the church at the intersection of Selma and Las Palmas. (Not the same building, the original church burned down as I recall, and it was rebuilt). The back of Musso and Frank's was a private club called The Writer's room, or something like that. I seem to remember that it had something to do with Johnny Depp. Again, I'm going purely from memory, so I could be mistaken. The back of the building had some painted caricatures and graffiti. From what I've seen on Google Maps they've built an apartment building in the parking lot behind there in the years since I was there. |
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Well, speaking of Crossroads of the World, I just read that they're going to tear it down to build a high-rise.
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I took a look around on the Googlemobile. If you go up Cherokee you can look down toward the back and there's a green awning over that back entrance. A several story building has also been built from Cherokee down past Musso & Frank at the rear. I'm assuming it's an apartment building, though I don't know. Apparently that area used to be a parking lot. Redfin says: The one-acre project site, located just north of Hollywood Boulevard, spans between Las Palmas and Cherokee Avenues. A six-story edifice that will feature 224 studio, one-, and two-bedroom apartments, in addition to approximately 1,000 square feet of street-level retail space. That project is finished. M&F back entrance 2010: https://lizziee.files.wordpress.com/...nk-outside.jpgRefinedPalate 2020: https://www.limitedruns.com/media/ca...c7a3b84e15.jpgLimitedRuns If you look on GSV (HERE) the current photo of the front shows that they've moved both the Musso & Frank sign and the "Oldest Rest. in Hollywood" sign. And are they expanding to the right? That did not used to be part of the restaurant. Like many places, Musso & Frank has been closed. They tried outdoor dining that did not work and take-out which "was not feasible." They used PPP funds to pay health insurance for their employees and customer benefactors have helped out and eventually a GoFundMe page was set up. Current word from a couple weeks ago: Musso & Frank Grill isn’t ready to return just yet. They say in a lengthy Instagram post that “we are now starting the extensive process of putting the gears in motion for a reopening in the near future,” adding that it will “take several weeks” at least. Instagram post dated March 15th: https://www.instagram.com/p/CMcpGqfslqx/ |
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Unless I know what you read, I don't think that's true. There is a huge development project around there, but TCoTW isn't being torn down. L.A. Conservancy's website says: Saved Crossroads of the World / Hollywood Reporter Building Link: https://www.laconservancy.org/locati...ossroads-world Excellent informative and often infuriating...Article from theLAnd: At a Crossroads How a pay-to-play corruption scandal at City Council intersects with Crossroads Hollywood, a glass skyscraper set to demolish a series of historic structures and displace their longtime tenants. https://thelandmag.com/crossroads-hollywood/ From the article: One of the buildings that will be preserved is the circa-1931 complex from which this new development takes its name: the Crossroads of the World [...]. This beloved plaza will become the token centerpiece for the multiple glass skyscrapers that will surround it on all sides. But many of the nearby buildings will not survive. Between 2017 and 2018, The Cultural Heritage Commission recommended five of the buildings in the footprint of Crossroads Hollywood for Historic-Cultural Monument status: the Hollywood Reporter building, the Talbot-Woods craftsman-style duplex, one pristinely-maintained 1910 bungalow, the Selma-Las Palmas courtyard apartments, and the 1920's Bullinger Building. [The Hollywood Reporter building received the Historic-Cultural Monument status. The other 4 did not.] |
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https://i.postimg.cc/NGnnGHXM/Pep-LAT-59-5-24.jpg LA Times, 5/24/1959. The May Co building, though altered, is still there. The ant is not. |
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This site has more photos of the exterior, rear of Musso and Frank: http://www.mussoandfrankgrill.com/ |
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https://i.postimg.cc/fTWw2n6B/church.jpg Here's John Bengston's blog post about Keaton's use of this church in "Cops" with several photos. |
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It was the wording in the Wikipedia article that got me: "The owner is planning on redeveloping the site... In January 2019, the Los Angeles City Council approved the project to revamp the Crossroads of the World in a move to revitalize the district.[2] Three high-rise buildings are planned to bring 950 apartments and condos, a 308-room hotel, and 190,000 square feet (18,000 m2) of commercial space. Preservationists called the redevelopment project a "Manhattanization of Hollywood".[3] Eighty-two Hollywood Regency garden apartments are to be demolished in the project.[4][5] These rent stabilized apartments are occupied by a decades-old, tight-knit community of largely low-income, predominantly Latino residents. Over 100 apartments in the project will be set aside for very low-income families." I took the wording to mean the actual spot where C.o.t.W. is located. I'm glad to hear about the old H.C.R. building. Thank you again for putting my mind at ease. |
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I realized a few moments after I posted my previous comment that I had mixed up The Hollywood Reporter building and the Hollywood Citizen News building. How embarrassing. :no: |
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Still and all, Sakhal...sadly these massive construction projects are dwarfing the iconic locations that people are trying to save. When one looks at the renderings for this project and others, like the project next to Angel's Flight and the hotel project to incorporate and hover over Barnery's Beanery even, they all make the original locations look out of place or like a theme restaurant. You can hardly even see Angel's Flight next to that project. It looks like some fire escape. It's almost like they still really are being erased and put out of context. The context around these locations is as important as the buildings themselves. Otherwise, it's only more like recreating the Brown Derby at Disney World in Florida. It's not the same. |
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Since Crossroads of the World was brought up yesterday I thought I would revisit it. For some reason I always forget about the back section facing Selma Ave. (as you can see it's just east of the recently discussed Baptist Church) It is surprisingly quite some distance from the better known group of buildings at Sunset Blvd. (where the iconic rotating globe is located) https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/CT9iAf.jpg GSV - Sunset at bottom - Selma at top If I'm not mistaken the original plans for the area between the two groupings was going to be a 'Crossroads of the World' theater. (?) UPDATE! I just found this map that includes the proposed buildings that never came to fruition and, yes, one of them was going to be a theater. I also see that the segment on Selma Ave. was called the Continental Villa. The unrealized buildings are in a lighter shade. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/qR9DJg.jpg findinglostangeles As you can see the development was going to extend west, over to Las Palmas Ave. (top of map) I imagine the empty gap, as a result of the unbuilt buildings, contributed to development's struggles in popularity. Shoppers were supposed to lose themselves in a fantasy world but to get to the buildings in the back (the Continental Villa) you had to cross an expanse of. . .umm. . .parking lot(?) . . .empty space(?) I'm not sure which. :shrug: AND the parcel of land that eventually became Crossroads of the World was the site of a very noirish double murder! (more on that later) or if anyone else wants to tackle the subject feel free to do so. . |
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I forgot to include this 1950 Sanborn Map. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/rBBEzN.jpg I see there are a few stray buildings on the right. (with the S's on them for stores) *looks closer* I guess it's one building. Let me see if I can make it bigger. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/Uvu2Xf.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/N3v3B4.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/2KhZTd.jpg Wallah! . |
Film of San Fernando Road... 1949.
https://youtu.be/x3X5DwDGvmo Loaded with old buildings, vintage cars and trucks. People were still driving pre WW II cars. 4 minutes |
Da da dahhhh Da Dum Dum!
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Current construction at 51st and Broadway has uncovered a long hidden sign for the Globe Department Store that once stood at this intersection. Has this building been discussed here previously?
https://i.postimg.cc/zDjmcFVD/globe-1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/bNwXcStx/globe-2.jpg (Photos found on Reddit.) Also...I very much enjoyed the reboot of Perry Mason, mrfredmertz. Congrats! |
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That Globe ghost sign is a very cool discovery, Handsome Stranger. I wondered why the left side was blank so I slightly adjusted the contrast. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/XLeOJm.jpg As you can see there is a very large red arrow. So where, exactly, was the ghost sign found? There wouldn't an arrow if it was at the exact location. Is it across the street?. . .is it down the block?) https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Zd1pSY.jpg I find it hard to believe there was a store that covered an entire city block at S. Broadway and 51st. & I take it the ultra-modern building was never built, right? :shrug: Here's an item from ebay that includes a 2nd location in Inglewood. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/ze5yZp.jpg They pretty such had everything from nuts to bolts. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/Yuzfc4.jpg . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Including bridge tables! . |
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The Globe Department Store became the Paradise Baptist Church in 1960.
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Historic-Cultural Monument application, December 2015 The 1931 Redwine Building is located at 1618 N. Las Palmas Avenue in the heart of Hollywood, south of Hollywood Boulevard. The two-story rectangular shaped building was designed by architect Richard D. King for Los Angeles attorney Hiram G. Redwine in the Art Deco style. The building replaced Redwine’s family residence on the site and was subsequently used as his office, a meeting place, and as leased offices by companies such as Shell Oil... https://planning.lacity.org/StaffRpt...BuildingUC.pdf Quote:
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The Writer’s Room Aims for Quiet Style Amid Hollywood Bar Scene By Charlie Amter, SPECIAL TO THE LOS ANGELES TIMES OCT. 14, 2011 Link: HERE. The article says it's in a space that "once belonged to Musso & Franks", so it's not technically in the back of it, per se. This LAist article, HERE, says the GOLDEN BOX opened in The Writers Room space in November of 2014. So far, I have not come across any place mentioning that this is a lesbian bar, but with a name like Golden Box...? ___________ In an article about Musso & Franks 100th Anniversary there was this: Musso & Frank became a favorite haunt of novelists like Faulkner and Fitzgerald. “The Screen Writers Guild was right across the street,” said present-day proprietor Mark Echeverria. “After their scripts were hacked apart by studio executives, they’d go to the Guild and complain…then cross the street to Musso’s and get drunk.” I was trying to figure out where the "Screen Writers Guild", precursor to the Writers Guild of America, was actually located. So far, this is what I've found. 1.) The Screen Writers’ Guild was formed in the summer of 1920. 2.) By February 1921, the group rented a temporary office in the Markham Building at 6372 Hollywood Boulevard. 3.) When the SWG was formed in 1920, writers made it clear that they not only wanted to improve their professional prospects but also wanted a place of their own to socialize and network. In addition to being the first elected Vice President of the SWG, Mary O’Connor was an organizer of the social arm of the Guild called The Writers’ Club. She was the majority shareholder in a company called The Las Palmas and Sunset Corporation, the company under which the SWG transacted business. One of the first activities of this company was the purchase of a mansion at 6716 Sunset Boulevard, which was then converted into a clubhouse. (By 1923, the address of the building became 6700 Sunset Blvd.) 4.) 1928 photo of the clubhouse https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...+Club+1928.jpgSecurity Pacific National Bank Collection/LAPL 5.) This clubhouse would serve as a gathering place and SWG headquarters until 1933, when the newly revitalized union moved to 1655 N. Cherokee. (Near Melrose Ave.) https://www.wgfoundation.org/screenwritersguild-history |
E_R, I believe once or twice you said that underground tunnels was something that fascinated you, and I know we've come across those on NLA before. I saw this:
Underground Tunnels of Los Angeles – Los Angeles, California - Atlas Obscura Discover Underground Tunnels of Los Angeles in Los Angeles, California: During prohibition, corrupt city officials ran drinking dens under the streets of Downtown Los Angeles. I haven't looked at this further, but I thought I'd post the link here in case I don't get back to it or whatever. https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/...ls-los-angeles |
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https://i.postimg.cc/Hs2x46H8/GLOBE.jpg It's on the southwest corner of the nearly block-long building, facing 52nd Street. So the arrow on the left side of the sign isn't pointing at anything other than the right side of the sign. This must be why they went out of business: arbitrary arrows in their signage. |
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mystery locations A set of four slides from the Los Angeles Planning Department. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/wR08ns.jpg eBay #1 https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/6l5IxT.jpg #2 https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/H5BA85.jpg #3 https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/77EwGq.jpg #4 https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/3JLdIA.jpg Here's this again so you don't have to scroll back up.:) https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/wR08ns.jpg Link . |
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I grew up at 58th and South Broadway - ‘50s to mid’60s - and walked past the Globe building on the way to school, doing errands or visiting friends. I recall a store past its prime, dark inside with second rate goods displayed, mostly clothing and furniture. Sad and shabby. There was no art deco/moderne facade.
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The last one took me a little longer. The street with the green median is Glendale Boulevard, and the major intersection is with N Alvarado Street. The bridge in the top-left is where Sunset crosses Glendale - we covered that in post #20936. We're looking roughly southwest.
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We have seen Aldo's a few times on NLA but this slide is new to the thread. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/hBJXrq.jpg eBay I see the dude on the right has been shopping at The House of Plaid. Aldos was located between the Warners Theater and a Coffee Dan's on the north side of Hollywood Blvd. ...HossC has a good photograph Here . |
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I believe this slide was also taken on Hollywood Blvd (I'm pretty sure I see stars on the sidewalk). . .but the exact corner is a mystery. (to me, anyway) Does anyone remember George's Famous Doubleburgers? https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/wvsVaZ.jpg eBay Blue Period . |
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Street sign says Las Palmas Ave. -- and Hollywood Blvd. Whether it's still in business or not the GSV currently shows the signs on it to be a chicken place called "Hot Motha Clucker." The current GSV images on Hollywood Blvd. are a ghost town. |
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https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/wBiq...32279369.0.jpgReuters News spread quickly last night about the fate of the Cinerama Dome, Arclight Cinemas, and Pacific Theatres. Decurion, the company that operates the theaters, says it will not reopen, even as LA County continues to relax coronavirus restrictions surrounding movie theaters this week. The closure is a massive blow to anyone itching to go back to watch movies in theaters, especially at the historic Cinerama Dome. Decurion’s announcement was quite a surprise. “This was not the outcome anyone wanted, but despite a huge effort that exhausted all potential options, the company does not have a viable way forward,” the statement added. |
Hopefully, Netflix will buy it.
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It's the NE corner of Hollywood Blvd. and Las Palmas Ave., e-r. George's has been replaced by the Rusty Mullet at 6689 Hollywood Blvd. I need to revive my photo hosting arrangements, so apologies for not providing a screenshot. |
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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/C3KvMn.jpg GSV The removal of the old signage has exposed all the light transomes....A welcome improvement. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/sAP79R.jpg detail It appears the Rusty Mullet is history - making way for the Hot Motha Clucker....:uhh: . |
A flickr.com poster came across a discarded photo album, 1890's-1920's, a fair number of the images are L.A./So. Cal.....it's a mix of postcards, professional photos and family snapshots.....https://www.flickr.com/photos/atomic...h/11748206814/
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