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GaylordWilshire Jan 19, 2012 7:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 5555667)
How about Dino's? Of course, that was Dean Martin's bar-restaurant on the strip, just a few blocks away at 8524 Sunset.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RS9H0TpQnt...3466b6db47.jpg

Naturally I'm reminded of 77 Sunset Strip...

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-L...2520PM.bmp.jpgyoutube
I'm guessing that this is a set, with Dino's entrance reproduced for authenticity...? Anyway, if
it were real, "77" would be the next address west of the restaurant, where the Mary Webb
Davis modeling agency at 8532 Sunset actually existed.


This is a shot of the Strip from the opening of the tv show:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-q...2520PM.bmp.jpgyoutube


Speaking of 1959, I like this shot with three '59 Ford products, including an Edsel...
an uncool note between the cool Dino's and #77:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b...90/77edsel.jpgyoutube

JeffDiego Jan 19, 2012 8:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5555880)
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-E...shireccext.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W...shireccint.jpgGoogle Books
The Wilshire Country Club, ca. 1922. From what I can see via Google, the building has been replaced or remodeled...
anyone know?


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6...2520AM.bmp.jpgjericl cat



Well, Jeff, while we're reviewing books...I looked at Full Service at the Strand, where it's half-price, no shipping... and I still didn't buy it...the book, I mean. Maybe every word is true, but it looks like a sad rehash of the same old stories, such as Cary & Randolph, Rock Hudson, ad nauseum. Exposés of Hollywood hypocrisy seems a little unsurprising at this point. Somehow you doubt that this guy was as personally popular as he thinks he was with the stars who paid him--and what a pal to try to cash in (again) on it all now. (And Gore Vidal's rec is not exactly worth much these days. There's another one screaming, remember me!? I'm not dead yet! I'm not a bourgeois square! I slept with stars! I had sex once!)

And while I actually slogged through the whole thing...Michael Gross's new Unreal Estate is similarly mind-numbing. Panting descriptions of the excesses of owners of some houses in BH, Bel-Air etc wear mighty thin.

Btw, I wouldn't want to read so much repetitive detail about the sex lives or domestic arrangements of poor people either! And I am very very interested in L.A. domestic architecture of the early-20th-century....

Gaylord:
"Full Service" is definitely not a tired rehash of old familiar stories, although a glance at the cover photos of Rock, Cary and Randolph etc. might give that impression.
It is probably testament to your healthy-mindedness that this kind of thing, along with tales of the excesses of the super-rich, simply bores you.
To many people, probably including you, Gore Vidal is an irritating relic, but his reputation is not that of one who would recommend a book of stale gossip by someone with an over-inflated ego.
I too am absolutely fascinated by early 20th-century Los Angeles architecture, but also enjoy gossip and lore about old Hollywood, Los Angeles crime, and the oddities and eccentricities of this city.
I also hugely appreciate your contributions to Noirish Los Angeles. Keep it up.

GaylordWilshire Jan 19, 2012 9:43 PM

The houses that cafeterias built, part II...
 
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-a...2520PM.bmp.jpgDonald Clinton Archive/Los Feliz Observer

Like the houses of the Boos brothers, this big beautiful place at 5470 Los Feliz Blvd (southeast corner of Western) was paid for by
mashed potatoes and Jello... Clifford Clinton of Clifton's lived here from 1936 to 1949. A bomb once went off in the kitchen....


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View
The house became L.A. Historic-Cultural Monument #997 last year.

Click HERE for a brief but highly enjoyable history of the house by son Don Clinton in the fall 2010 issue of the Los
Feliz Observer
(scroll down to page 6). The story includes references to the noir-era bombings we've covered here
before: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=950).


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J...2520PM.bmp.jpgCharles J. Fisher

kanhawk Jan 20, 2012 4:58 AM

http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content....-Noir-TNT.jpg

New TV pilot to be written by Frank Darabont, director of The Shawshank Redemption. Will become a TV show on TNT, if they like the pilot episode.

http://screenrant.com/frank-darabont...t-yman-146591/

ethereal_reality Jan 20, 2012 5:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 5555632)

1940, Sunset and Holloway, West Hollywood.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/927...oway1940he.jpg
LAPL

What a great photograph sopas_ej! This is my neck of the woods when I lived in Los Angeles.
The buildings at the extreme left are mostly still intact (albeit some 'modernization).

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1...h2booksoup.jpg
google street view

It looks as if 'Book Soup' has expanded...enveloping two storefronts in the same building.

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Just to the right of 'Book Soup' (see the photo above) is a mysterious passageway that leads to a business that seems straight out of the 1940s.

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/4...hindbookso.jpg
detail

It's described as such...


http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/4...hindbookso.jpg
http://www.yelp.com/biz/mystery-pier...west-hollywood




http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/442...hindbookso.jpg
http://www.yelp.com/biz/mystery-pier...west-hollywood


http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/442...hindbookso.jpg
http://www.yelp.com/biz/mystery-pier...west-hollywood



The passageway described is on the left in the photo below.
It actually descends below a sort of 'bridge of sighs' that connects two of the buildings on Sunset Boulevard.

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4...hindbookso.jpg
google street view





http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/4...hindbookso.jpg
google street view

This is the type of place we would 'wax nostalgic' if it no longer existed.

For any of you in the L.A. area....go and visit the father and son proprietors.
It's been said that they know everything about crime in Los Angeles!
(and everyone seems to agree that they're also very friendly) :)

____



It also reminds me of the book shop in The Big Sleep (minus Dorothy Malone).

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6...hebigsleep.jpg
The Big Sleep (1946)

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ethereal_reality Jan 20, 2012 6:54 AM

A scene from the 1967 cult film 'Mondo Hollywood' shows these two surfers leaving the Hollywood Hills
to catch some waves in Malibu.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8643/...dmysteryar.jpg
Mondo Hollywood




As they speed down the hill you see a giant arrow in the distance.

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/8...dmysteryar.jpg
Mondo Hollywood

Can anyone tell me where this humongous arrow was located??
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GaylordWilshire Jan 20, 2012 12:17 PM

Ruth Roman, Jack Cassidy, and... Paul Anka?
 
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8...2520AM.bmp.jpgyoutube

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i...2520AM.bmp.jpgyoutube

I don't know about the whole movie, but the trailer is kind of wonderful:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8y_7aPJMlY

"The revealing story of today's adult delinquents...nothing between their secrets and the neighborhood except a pane of glass!"

"They're the reason kids like us do the things we do."

"The shades are up and their morals are showing."


Co-starring George Dolenz, father of a Monkee, and Gigi Perreau of The Shadow on the Wall...

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...85148%20AM.jpgMGM
(See http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2120)


ethereal... Mystery Pier Books looks like a must-visit....


.

RudyJK Jan 20, 2012 2:25 PM

Great...thanks 3940dxr.

Reading that menu from Dino's Lodge made me really hungry. :slob:

jg6544 Jan 20, 2012 5:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RudyJK (Post 5557343)
Great...thanks 3940dxr.

Reading that menu from Dino's Lodge made me really hungry. :slob:

Pretty exotic for its times, too. One thing caught my eye - the bird stuffed with wild rice and served with cherries ("Montmorency"). That was a staple of any restaurant anywhere in the country aspiring to be something more than pedestrian in the 1950s - 60s.

nostalgie Jan 20, 2012 6:45 PM

Wilshire Country Club
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5555880)
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-E...shireccext.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W...shireccint.jpgGoogle Books
The Wilshire Country Club, ca. 1922. From what I can see via Google, the building has been replaced or remodeled...
anyone know?


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6...2520AM.bmp.jpgjericl cat



Well, Jeff, while we're reviewing books...I looked at Full Service at the Strand, where it's half-price, no shipping... and I still didn't buy it...the book, I mean. Maybe every word is true, but it looks like a sad rehash of the same old stories, such as Cary & Randolph, Rock Hudson, ad nauseum. Exposés of Hollywood hypocrisy seems a little unsurprising at this point. Somehow you doubt that this guy was as personally popular as he thinks he was with the stars who paid him--and what a pal to try to cash in (again) on it all now. (And Gore Vidal's rec is not exactly worth much these days. There's another one screaming, remember me!? I'm not dead yet! I'm not a bourgeois square! I slept with stars! I had sex once!)

And while I actually slogged through the whole thing...Michael Gross's new Unreal Estate is similarly mind-numbing. Panting descriptions of the excesses of owners of some houses in BH, Bel-Air etc wear mighty thin.

Btw, I wouldn't want to read so much repetitive detail about the sex lives or domestic arrangements of poor people either! And I am very very interested in L.A. domestic architecture of the early-20th-century....

RE: You're wondering about the Wilshire Country Club. The club's buildings underwent a massive restoration/remodeling just a couple of years ago. As far as I've been able to find out, they still ARE the original buildings but had been victimized by a really unfortunate remodel 30+ years back, and it's that ugly remodel that was torn up & replaced. I haven't been inside since the work was done but am told it really looks good.

Ah - the fabulous Mystery Pier! The owners are great guys & do not discourage browsing. With the demise of the Mystery Bookshop, Mystery Pier
is the last man standing of great themed bookshops in L.A. Even if you only have a short time in town, Mystery Pier is SO worth your time.

As always, Ethereal & GW and all the other regular contributors, I'm truly awed by your breadth of knowledge & willingness to share. No other place on the web makes me feel as good about being an Angeleno as these pages.

minkykat Jan 20, 2012 8:01 PM

Say, George Dolenz, Tv's "Count of Monte Cristo" had his own eatery for a while. Anyone have any pics of it? I believe that it was named after his tv show.

Bilbo Jan 20, 2012 9:17 PM

"Sunset House"
 
Whilst reading about the 30s and 40s Los Angeles I came across a reference to "Sunset House" - I have tried without - success - to find out more about it - is it still standing and what was its exact location ?

Do any pictures exist of what it was like back then ?:shrug:

GaylordWilshire Jan 20, 2012 9:48 PM

The houses that cafeterias built, part III...
 
Well, actually, it turns out that the Schabers--cousins of the Boos brothers who opened a few of their own Los Angeles cafeterias--were either not as successful as their relatives, or at least not as pretentious. Their various Mid-City and Cheviot Hills homes were quite a bit more modest, and there's really nothing much left of them to show here. Pictures of their cafeterias, other than the one at 620 S. Broadway, are rare. In fact, all I could find of the others were small, fuzzy images.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics16/00007865.jpgLAPL

Another vintage shot of 620 S. Broadway--a great pic showing See's, Desmond's, and Silverwood's signs. Question: What exactly is the piece of street furniture to the left of lamppost? The building still stands, as we've seen in a prior post, but the sidewalk has been replaced.

If I've got this right, at some point Al and Erhard Schaber swapped buildings with the owner of 720 S. Hill--no idea why. The Broadway building was a Forum Cafeteria in the mid '50s, one of a national chain that seems to have acquired the Schaber operations somewhere along the line. This is the only pic of the Hill Street location I could find:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-p...habershill.jpgvoncoelln.com

The building still stands:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Q...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View


The Schabers and/or the Forum chain also operated a store at Wilshire and LaBrea, which didn't last long. One on Victory Drive in North Hollywood lasted longer. The pic below is of one or the other:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-w...bersnholly.jpgvoncoelln.com

ethereal_reality Jan 20, 2012 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5557848)


I had forgotten all about See's Candies until this photo. The equivalent in Illinois was Fanny Mae's. Thanks for the flashback G_W.

GaylordWilshire Jan 20, 2012 11:20 PM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-F...2520PM.bmp.jpgFutureBlind

See's is one of those businesses that have always said Los Angeles to me. Whenever I leave LAX I take La Cienega north and make sure to look for the See's factory on the left, somewhere around Jefferson.

A while back I read that the original factory at 135 N. Western Ave might be torn down for a mini-mall, but it looks like it's still there...

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-h...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View

Then...
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-L...2520PM.bmp.jpgSee's Candies/Los Angeles Times


http://kpbs.media.clients.ellingtonc...0d04a31382c8afSee's Candies/Los Angeles Times

Steve Hoffman Jan 20, 2012 11:29 PM

Wow, did that See's building get dilapidated or what? Sad, actually. I mean, I'm glad the building still stands but it looks like something out of a war zone now.

ethereal_reality Jan 20, 2012 11:52 PM

Here is another photograph of Schaber's Cafeteria showing the See's Candies Shop, circa 1940.



http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/961...habers1940.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=10221





below: Boos Bros. Cafeteria can be seen bottom right in this view looking north on Olive from 7th Street in 1930.


http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4...rwasboosbr.jpg
LAPL

GaylordWilshire Jan 21, 2012 1:26 AM

:previous:

Boos Cafeteria at 618 S. Olive became Clifton's in the mid '30s; it was converted to the famous "Pacific Seas" cafeteria in 1939, lasting until 1960.

Here it is post-Boos, pre Pacific Seas:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g...livebefore.jpgClifton's


Has anyone been downtown lately to see how the facade-removal is going on Clifton's Brookdale?

ethereal_reality Jan 21, 2012 3:53 AM

Some interesting photos I recently found on ebay.

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/1...16hollywoo.jpg

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/6...16descript.jpg
ebay


below: This is the entire photo.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5263/hastings2in1916.jpg
ebay

___



below: Close-ups of several 'touring' cars from Hasting's Place.


http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8...press11916.jpg
ebay



http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/5...ssebaysays.jpg
ebay

ethereal_reality Jan 21, 2012 4:10 AM

Jennie Lee...the girl with the big 'eyes'.

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/804/42inchbust.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5008445

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/7126/42inchbust1.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5008445

____

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9...djennielee.jpg
ebay

ethereal_reality Jan 21, 2012 5:16 AM

I found this Arthur Fellig (aka 'weegee') photograph on ebay earlier this week. The seller dated the photo 1947.



http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1...ee1947ebay.jpg
ebay



below: details

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/1768/weegee1947b.jpg
ebay


http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4531/weegee1947a.jpg
ebay

_____





below: Two excellent close-ups of the crowd.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8750/weegee1947c.jpg
ebay



http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4918/weegee1947d.jpg
ebay


I'm not sure of the exact location of this photograph....the mortuary seems to be the best clue.

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3940dxer Jan 21, 2012 5:26 AM

Las Palmas Market
 
This small market at 1259 N. Las Palmas at Fountain in Hollywood has long interested me. This is a residential area, about a block west of De Longpre Park. The place is still there and still looks like an old country store. Wonder how long it's been around?

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics33/00066420.jpg

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics33/00066420.jpg

ethereal_reality Jan 21, 2012 5:36 AM

:previous: I couldn't resist a before and after 3940dxer. :)


http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3...elaspalmas.jpg
google street view



I wonder if the current owners know the history of the place? It would be interesting to see if there are old photos hanging inside.

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FredH Jan 21, 2012 6:12 AM

:previous:

According to the L.A. County Assessor's website, it was built in 1912, 1040 square feet.


Their website is a good reference for history of buildings, but like any government website it is balky and frustrating to use. :hell:

http://assessormap.co.la.ca.us/mapping/viewer.asp


...and for $1,500.00, you can buy a nice painting of the place

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/3336/taggallery.jpg
taggallery.net

3940dxer Jan 21, 2012 7:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5507692)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1...2520AM.bmp.jpgTerry Guy

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-u...2520AM.bmp.jpgTerry Guy

The only vaguely noirish thing--and I admit that it's a stretch--about The Burger That Ate L.A. once at the se corner of Melrose and Stanley was its replication of City Hall. I'm not sure what happened to it--the City Hall part--when it became a chicken place, but Starbucks seems for some reason to have felt the need to restore the shape (if it wasn't eventually to become a parking lot, a gas station, a minimart, a strip mall, it would have to have become a Starbucks, right?).

Per a commenter on the photographer's website: "The restaurant is in the shape of a huge 2-story burger. Bar stools are shaped like pickle wedges and suspended above your head is an enormous tomato slice suspended from the top bun! The counter where you eat is between the two buns which act as the floor and the ceiling."

http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...rb03078-01.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...rb03078-01.jpg

GaylordWilshire Jan 21, 2012 1:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5558360)
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/1768/weegee1947b.jpg
ebay

I'm not sure of the exact location of this photograph....the mortuary seems to be the best clue.

Presumably New Year's Eve....


Utter-McKinley was at 6240 Hollywood Blvd--southeast corner of Argyle--the empty corner lot near the center of shot. (I know people have the need to name their businesses after themselves, but if my name was Utter... but I digress.) The scene now:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View

The Pantages is behind the camera. Argyle Street seems to be the border of the old and new
Hollywood Blvd. The difference is dramatic. The view west is high-rise...

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-B...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View


...the view east, still low-rise:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-h...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View


Btw--
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V...2520AM.bmp.jpgbeladraculalugosi

GaylordWilshire Jan 21, 2012 2:32 PM

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics49/00059051.jpgLAPL

It's still there at 6640 Sunset, more or less. Same palm out front, and you can still see the outlines of the little gable windows...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-C...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View

One hallmark of Golden Age Hollywood movies is the name Westmore in the credits. I noticed that there were several Westmores--Perc, Bud, and Wally were the names you see most often--but apparently there were alot of them. Bud was at Universal, Wally at Paramount, and Perc at Warners... one site refers to the scandals of the clan, but doesn't elaborate other than to mention the third wife of this one or the fourth husband of that one. Anyway, I was curious about the reflection in the windows...

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-F...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View

...and found school and church buildings I've never really noticed before. The Blessed Sacrament:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics16/00007756.jpgLAPL

Blessed Sacrament was two blocks north at Hollywood and Cherokee until 1924:

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics46/00072763.jpglapl.org

3940dxer Jan 21, 2012 3:48 PM

The Hot Dog Show, 450 S. La Cienega
 
1949 menu from the Hot Dog Show at 450 S. La Cienega, between Colgate and Clifton. This would have been a few blocks south of Tail O' The Pup and Lucas Kiddie Land. It seems that the address is now extinct.

http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...Show_front.jpg

http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...how_inside.jpg

http://dbase1.lapl.org/dbtw-wpd/exec...=&MF=&MQ=&TI=0

Those Who Squirm! Jan 21, 2012 7:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5551058)
http://i40.tinypic.com/4qprhe.jpgONTD

Every time I see high-rise pants in old movies, I wonder--especially considering that these were the days before Jockeys became popular--umm... how it was all arranged without revealing certain contours, IF you know what I mean. Perhaps the costume designers had their tricks.... Anyway... this is really out of the scope of the thread....

Jockey shorts have probably been around longer than you think, having been wildly successful from their introduction in 1935. On the other hand, to my knowledge they have never, ever been depicted in film or literature as something cool guys wear. Go figure...

rcarlton Jan 21, 2012 8:08 PM

Carlton Theatre
 
Here is the Carlton Theatre in LA:
http://photos.cinematreasures.org/pr...jpg?1311183709 http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/1966/photos/15873

Torn down now. Was located at 5409 S. Western Avenue, Los Angeles, CA. This theatre is famous (?) for having the March 1957 preview of Grave Robbers from Outer Space (later renamed: Plan 9 from Outer Space) which was shot in 1956. This was Béla Ferenc Dezső Blaskó (Bela Lugosi) last film.

Now:http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7142/6...fd9bf594_b.jpg

Google Earth

GaylordWilshire Jan 21, 2012 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minkykat (Post 5557675)
Say, George Dolenz, Tv's "Count of Monte Cristo" had his own eatery for a while. Anyone have any pics of it? I believe that it was named after his tv show.

George Dolenz--father of Monkee Mickey--opened the Marquis restaurant at 8420 Sunset in 1956 with his earnings from "Count of Monte Christo." He died on the roof of the Marquis in 1963--he'd gone up to inspect something and had a heart attack. Not sure how long his family might have had it after that, but in 1970, it became the Martoni Marquis. L.A. restaurateur Mario MARino opened it with a coworker named TONI--hence Martoni's Marquis. A family website claims that "regulars Liz Taylor, John Wayne and Elvis Presley made it famous." It seems to have lasted about six years... the building is gone now.


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-q...2520PM.bmp.jpg
hollywoodphotographs.com in case you couldn't tell

ethereal_reality Jan 22, 2012 1:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5558787)

I love that 'greasy spoon' to the left of the theater. Imagine grabbing a juicy cheeseburger and coke after watching 'Plan 9 From Outer Space'. :)

Thanks for posting rcarlton. I've never seen this theater before.

ethereal_reality Jan 22, 2012 3:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5555880)
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-E...shireccext.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W...shireccint.jpgGoogle Books
The Wilshire Country Club, ca. 1922. From what I can see via Google, the building has been replaced or remodeled...
anyone know?


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6...2520AM.bmp.jpgjericl cat




below: Interesting facts about the Wilshire Country Club. The membership fee alone made me throw up in my mouth a little.


http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/202...ryclubjaso.jpg
http://www.jamescolincampbell.com/





http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/1...tryclub1bs.jpg
http://www.jamescolincampbell.com/



below: A view of the 'stream' in 1925 before the golf course was established.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7...reamin1921.jpg





below: And to answer your question about the clubhouse G_W. (This isn't what we wanted to hear) :(

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/3...untryclub1.jpg
http://www.jamescolincampbell.com/




below: An expansive view of the Wilshire Country Club. Notice the impressive Royale Apartments across the street on Rossmore.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/171/w...ryclub1ahu.jpg
http://www.jamescolincampbell.com/




below: The Royale Apartment building in 1929.

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/5...royalein19.jpg
LAPL





below: An aerial view of the Wilshire Country Club clubhouse in 1925.

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/3...9253timesa.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=33630




below: An aerial view of the Wilshire Country Club in 2011.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/985...ryclubaeri.jpg
google views

3940dxer Jan 22, 2012 3:24 AM

Kelbo's
 
Kelbo's at 101 N. Fairfax St. near 1st, with a second location on Pico. Fun place but as I recall the food wasn't all that great.

Couldn't find a good exterior shot, unfortunately.

http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...rb04821-01.jpg

http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...rb03878-01.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/dbtw-wpd/exec/dbtwpub.dll

ethereal_reality Jan 22, 2012 3:47 AM

Club 88 in west Los Angeles.

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/6121/club88.jpg
http://gogonotes.blogspot.com/2008/09/club-88.html

ethereal_reality Jan 22, 2012 3:52 AM

This 'Childrens Paradise' looks anything but. Found on an old CD of mine (no address...no date)


http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9...bybeverlyc.jpg
unknown

I don't recall the name of the small amusement park that occupied the site of the Beverly Center.
Is this it?.....or was it called something else.....perhaps 'Adventure' something??

____

ethereal_reality Jan 22, 2012 4:18 AM

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1...ysterybldg.jpg
postcard/ebay

So which bridge is this......sopas_ej?

FredH Jan 22, 2012 4:22 AM

Alex in Wonderland - 1970
 
In 1969, Paul Mazursky (in his first effort) directed the hit movie Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice. As a reward, he was allowed to choose his next project, which (inexplicably) turned out
to be Alex in Wonderland, starring Donald Sutherland and Ellen Burstyn. To his credit, I suppose, his career continued on after this movie.

Anyway, one Sunday morning, he took his crew out to Hollywood Blvd. to film this scene:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/353...oodblvd970.jpg
Los Angeles Times

Forty two years later, the area looks pretty much the same:

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4...ywoodblvd2.jpg
Google Street View

The Supply Sergeant is still going, but the House of Magic has turned into a tatoo shop, the Cinema bookstore now sells cell phones, and the Ritz Theater (the New View back then)
is a church.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg190...jpg&res=medium
Google Street View

The Ritz Theater has an interesting history. It started life as a bowling alley. In 1939, it was converted to a theater called News-View, which showed newsreels.
Later (as in the Alex in Wonderland photo), the "s" was dropped and it was just called the New-View.

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9158/t03911.jpg
https://sites.google.com/site/hollywoodtheatres/ritz

In the mid 1970's, it went porno and was called the Pussycat. Then in 1989, it was re-done as the Ritz. In the end, the "I" fell off the Ritz sign and it ened up the
church you see two photos above.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg41/...jpg&res=medium
https://sites.google.com/site/hollywoodtheatres/ritz

On the other side of the street (in the Alex in Wonderland photo), you can see part of the sign for the Vogue Theater. The Vogue has gone through a number of changes too.
Here are a few of them.

In 1935, it looked like this:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg854...jpg&res=medium
https://sites.google.com/site/hollywoodtheatres/vogue

In 1959, it went through this remodel:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg542...jpg&res=medium
LAPL

Lately, it has been converted into a supper club:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg16/...jpg&res=medium
Google Street View

Anyone interested in the history of Hollywood theaters, please check out this excellent website:

https://sites.google.com/site/hollywoodtheatres/home

3940dxer Jan 22, 2012 5:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5559244)
This 'Childrens Paradise' looks anything but. Found on an old CD of mine (no address...no date)

I don't recall the name of the small amusement park that occupied the site of the Beverly Center.
Is this it?.....or was it called something else.....perhaps 'Adventure' something?

I'm sure you're thinking of Lucas Kiddie Land (AKA Beverly Park), which coincidentally I mentioned this morning in my post about "The Hot Dog Show".

Maybe Childrens Paradise was some little corner of Kiddie Land? This photo has been posted on our thread before, but what the heck. Mom and dad took us kids here once or twice and the place became a little family joke. When we took any sort of family vacation or road trip my dad would often quip on the drive home "Do you wish we'd gone to Kiddieland instead?"

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics27/00063268.jpg
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics27/00063268.jpg

ChristinaR Jan 22, 2012 5:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5559244)
This 'Childrens Paradise' looks anything but. Found on an old CD of mine (no address...no date)


http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9...bybeverlyc.jpg
unknown

I don't recall the name of the small amusement park that occupied the site of the Beverly Center.
Is this it?.....or was it called something else.....perhaps 'Adventure' something??

____

Not sure of the location, but the photo is from LAPL's Ansel Adams collection, circa 1940.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085759.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085758.jpg

FredH Jan 22, 2012 5:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5559259)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1...ysterybldg.jpg
postcard/ebay

So which bridge is this......sopas_ej?

ethereal_reality:

I googled around downtown L.A. and decided (from the angle of the buildings) that this might have been shot from an overpass on the 101 freeway.
This street view shot was from Los Angeles Street, but it may also have been from back at Alameda.

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9...elesstreet.jpg
Google Street View

sopas ej Jan 22, 2012 6:25 AM

That shot was taken from the retaining wall of the Union Station tracks, which overlooked Aliso Street (now overlooking the 101 freeway and El Monte Busway/San Bernardino Fwy. carpool lanes).

In fact, there's a photo posted on here with a locomotive that broke through it... here, from the LA Times archive:
http://latimesphoto.files.wordpress....hruwall970.jpg
LA Times



Here's a Google Map view of the retaining wall:
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/1870/picture3xo.png
Google Maps

As you can see, an overpass was built through the retaining wall for the Gold Line light rail tracks to cross over the 101 freeway.

Hmmm, I take that back. That old postcard photo was indeed taken from the track area of Union Station, but from a retaining wall that no longer exists. You can see the tiled covered walkway from the postcard here, in this Google Map image, in the lower left corner. You can't get that same view anymore because of the MWD headquarters building.
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/1290/picture5wj.png
Google Maps

Here's an aerial image of Union Station from 1940. That retaining wall is near the upper right-hand corner, where the curved ramp for the roof parking is. The old postcard photo was taken from there. The MWD headquarters building now occupies that site.
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2...940uscarch.jpg
USC Archive

I remember that ramp. The MWD building was built in the late 1990s.

Undated photo
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics25/00032382.jpg
LAPL

rcarlton Jan 22, 2012 2:17 PM

Found another picture of the Carlton Theatre:
http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater2/00015268.jpg

http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater2/00015268.jpg

The car in the foreground is a 1964 Plymouth and one of the cars in the background is a 1961 Chevrolet.

From http://www.westadams-normandie.com/

"Address given as both 5409 and 5411 S. Western (between Vernon and Slauson)

Demolished.
Style: Mission Revival
Seats: 1200
Architect: Unknown
From Cinema Treasures:

"My brother and sister and I spent many a Saturday afternoon at this theatre. They had children's matinees every week and for 25¢, I recall, you could see two features plus a cartoon and previews of coming attractions both for the regular theatre and for next weeks childrens matinee on Saturday. My brother was just reminding me of how he saw the Three Stooges in person at this theatre. I remember the candy being 6¢ and 12¢. I would always get ju-ju-bees because they lasted longer. Sometimes I would splurge on a 12 cent box of Flicks - chocholate wafers (before Hershey kisses) that came packed in a box cylinder container. They even had membership cards that were punched each week you attended. When it was your birthday or birthday week, you came up on stage at intermission and stuck your hand into a grab bag full of money and candy and kept everything you could hold on to. BOY THOSE WERE THE DAYS." -- posted by MagicLantern on Sep 17, 2004

Another contributor adds: "The film 'Ed Wood' depicts the premiere of "Plan Nine From Outer Space" (1959) as taking place at the Pantages Theatre in Hollywood. The premiere was actually held at the Carlton Theatre in Los Angeles."

rcarlton Jan 22, 2012 3:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5559221)
below: Interesting facts about the Wilshire Country Club. The membership fee alone made me throw up in my mouth a little.

snip

Wilshire CC $150,000 to join and $20,000 a year for a membership three years ago!:koko:

Horthos Jan 22, 2012 4:02 PM

Having fun in an abandoned city
 
All taken this morning, starting around 5AM to about 6:30AM. Sunday mornings around that time are fascinating, as there are quite literally less than zero people out on the streets, and it is really creepy and cool at the same time, to be in the middle of what feels like an abandoned city.

Obviously we have all seen wilshire bullocks a billion times before, but this was my first time seeing it all lit up in the dark.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...-/006-Copy.jpg

over on Los Angeles street between 9th and olympic, theres the gerry building, which I am not sure has been covered on here...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...-/004-Copy.jpg

As much as I hate the parking lots, the only upside to them is you can get some back views of buildings you normally wouldnt see, also, it makes it easier to get into alleyways.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...tulio-/012.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...tulio-/013.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...tulio-/014.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...tulio-/006.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...tulio-/008.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...tulio-/022.jpg

And for fun, heres a little then and now, taken in almost the same spot.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...grapefruit.jpg

All photos by me...

Also, awhile back I posted pictures of the hotel clark neon sign all lit up...however, it was only lit for like 2 or 3 days it seemed, its been off for months. Not sure what the deal is with that place, I hear rumors its being fixed up, however I never see any evidence. Anyone know anything about it?

rick m Jan 22, 2012 4:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5559435)
Found another picture of the Carlton Theatre:
http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater2/00015268.jpg

http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater2/00015268.jpg

The car in the foreground is a 1964 Plymouth and one of the cars in the background is a 1961 Chevrolet.

From http://www.westadams-normandie.com/

"Address given as both 5409 and 5411 S. Western (between Vernon and Slauson)

Demolished.
Style: Mission Revival
Seats: 1200
Architect: Unknown
From Cinema Treasures:

"My brother and sister and I spent many a Saturday afternoon at this theatre. They had children's matinees every week and for 25¢, I recall, you could see two features plus a cartoon and previews of coming attractions both for the regular theatre and for next weeks childrens matinee on Saturday. My brother was just reminding me of how he saw the Three Stooges in person at this theatre. I remember the candy being 6¢ and 12¢. I would always get ju-ju-bees because they lasted longer. Sometimes I would splurge on a 12 cent box of Flicks - chocholate wafers (before Hershey kisses) that came packed in a box cylinder container. They even had membership cards that were punched each week you attended. When it was your birthday or birthday week, you came up on stage at intermission and stuck your hand into a grab bag full of money and candy and kept everything you could hold on to. BOY THOSE WERE THE DAYS." -- posted by MagicLantern on Sep 17, 2004

Another contributor adds: "The film 'Ed Wood' depicts the premiere of "Plan Nine From Outer Space" (1959) as taking place at the Pantages Theatre in Hollywood. The premiere was actually held at the Carlton Theatre in Los Angeles."

Vampira actually recalled that the cast headed to this preview by a rented bus - and rather forbodingly nervous they all were about the entire evening-- so much to their suprise it went over with the audience!

GaylordWilshire Jan 22, 2012 7:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 5559303)
I'm sure you're thinking of Lucas Kiddie Land (AKA Beverly Park), which coincidentally I mentioned this morning in my post about "The Hot Dog Show".

Speaking of Beverly Park...

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics38/00068991.jpgLAPL

I know we've seen the this picture of a ride at Beverly Park--with its swanky Cadillac mini-cars--before, but the "search" option here isn't turning those older posts up... anyway, despite a review that, as a writer, would have made me throw myself under those mini-Caddy tracks, I just finished a borrowed copy of Unreal Estate by Michael Gross. It's the kind of thing I am interested in--old Los angeles houses--but I'm afraid Janet Maslin of the NYT was right--there is too much grotesque detail of the trashy lives of celebs and sleazy businessmen in their BH, Bel-Air, Holmby Hills and Beverly Park palazzos--500 pages of it really is enough to make you gag and head for genteel Pasadena. Anyway--apparently Beverly Park was long in development--there were many unbuilt incarnations with various names until the subdivision, as it is today, opened (and what a--how shall I put this?--group the place has attracted). According to the book, the successful developer decided on "Beverly Park" because he'd played there as child....

I might add that while Unreal Estate is finally a really boring read, I read somewhere that HBO has optioned it. I'm not sure how they'd put it all on the screen, but I'll be watching.

austlar1 Jan 22, 2012 9:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5559468)
Wilshire CC $150,000 to join and $20,000 a year for a membership three years ago!:koko:

Can you imagine how much the land underneath places like the Wilshire CC, LA CC, and Hillcrest CC must be worth. I wonder what kind of real estate taxes these clubs pay. I bet they get bargain rates, but with annual dues that high I guess some of it goes towards RE taxes.

GaylordWilshire Jan 22, 2012 10:08 PM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M...nglishflat.jpgGoogle Books

This amazing apartment house I stumbled upon is identified only as the "English Flat Court Building, Los Angeles." Where could it have been? (I don't want to get to excited and ask, "Where is it?")

esotouric Jan 22, 2012 10:10 PM

Actually, the country clubs pay extremely low taxes-- so low that they're practically non-existent. Here's a link to an interesting piece of crowd-funded investigative online journalism into how that came to be the case, and if anything can be done about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by austlar1 (Post 5559851)
Can you imagine how much the land underneath places like the Wilshire CC, LA CC, and Hillcrest CC must be worth. I wonder what kind of real estate taxes these clubs pay. I bet they get bargain rates, but with annual dues that high I guess some of it goes towards RE taxes.



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