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Al Levy got his start selling oysters to Metropolitan Opera patrons. below: Al Levy and his oyster cart. -date unknown- http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4...oystercart.jpg LAPL |
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Levy's Cafe at 6413 Hollywood Blvd. on the left in a detail from "Hollywood Boulevard near Wilcox" tessa.lapl.org https://i.imgur.com/i6uRlhz.jpg It was also the location in 1962 where Sonny and Cher laid eyes on each other for the first time at Aldo's Coffee Shop. Here next door to KFWB in 1966. https://i.imgur.com/stj33nQ.jpg Facebook - Vintage Los Angeles |
Thanks for figuring out the Washington State Building and the fair where it was located. ( 1915 PANAMA - CALIFORNIA EXPOSITION, SAN DIEGO)
I was surprised by how grand the building turned out to be. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/pjecpj.jpg I was expecting something much smaller in scale. The snapshot was very deceiving. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/LEaoZK.jpg EBAY A long time ago, I remember seeing a photograph of a large 'Los Angeles County Building' at one of the in-state expositions. . |
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A RARE & unique look of a hat cleaning storefront in Los Angeles. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/2RXvBA.jpg eBay The address is written in pencil on the reverse side. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/CWY7f9.jpg 348 S. Broadway Los Angeles Here's a closer look. It's AMAZING. You can see the men working on hats through the windows. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/J8VvD8.jpg As you can see, it is located next to the Los Angeles Theater, a vaudeville theater at the time. At first I thought the sign about the store, and partially hidden by an awning, said 'Wicker Hat Works', but under closer inspection the first letter isn't a W...........(I thought wicker because of straw boaters) I imagine panama hats became popular because of the Panama Canal, right? (the canal opened in 1914) If so, that would help in dating the photograph. It's on my mind because of my recent mention of the two Panama expostions in California (both in 1915). Seller asking $89.99 . |
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Here's an interesting ad (from 1910) that lists the various vaudeville act. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/4nfiuf.jpg Kenneth McIntyre / Facebook Initially I thought this was advertising up-coming shows...but I was wrong. All these acts performed in the same show. Holy Toledo! In this night view, you get a glimpse of the (former) hat cleaning storefront at far left. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/g7eZvU.jpg losangelestheaters The Los Angeles Theater's name was changed to the Empress in 1913. (so the hat cleaning photograph is pre-1913) . |
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https://i.postimg.cc/9FwC6m10/Map-Pa...a-Expo1915.jpgupload picture via wikipedia So where is that in the modern topography of Balboa Park, I've outlined it in blue. https://i.postimg.cc/BQFfhhQ1/Annota...-17-141645.jpggif hoster via Google Maps |
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ETA: As far as other exhibitions, the campus of the University of Washington was the site of an exhibition in the early 1900's. I've spent a great deal of time there. ETA2: Oh, a note of thanks to everyone here, I led a group of photographers though Chester Place and St. James Square this past Sunday giving them little historical tidbits along the way. Most of which I picked up at this here site. |
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Just following up on a year for the picture. 1910 looks like the best bet going by the CDs. That's the only year the pictured store at 338 South Spring Street throws up hats as the line of business while the Los Angeles Theatre was next door. Might be Merven T. Peck posing at the door. https://i.imgur.com/gkstBJr.jpg rescarta.lapl.org |
another Ralph's
This photo is on eBay, captioned "Los Angeles - Typical Street Scene" for $15:
https://i.imgur.com/zgix5qc.jpg eBay The 1940 CD has a Farmers Public General Market at 6151 W Pico, and also a Ralph's at 6121, so we're looking east on Pico. At least the decorative treatment of the roof line has survived, if you squint hard enough. https://i.imgur.com/Zg9QFJx.jpg GSV |
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This is an undated Ralph Morris photo captioned:
"Exterior view of Extruders Inc., manufacturers of Garden King hose and plastic extrusions. The company also makes rods, tubes, shapes, packaging film, electrical insulating and tubing." https://i.imgur.com/C4AlcVH.jpg calisphere.org No luck in the LA CDs, which is not surprising, given that a 1950 classified ad in the Times places Extruders, Inc. at 8509 Higuera in Culver City. I think the building survived: you can see the little 2-step elevation of the roof line over what was the main entrance in the modern picture as well. It is now the Willow Community School. https://i.imgur.com/f66puVI.jpg GSV |
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1908-1913 435 S Main 1914-1916 433 S Main 1917 528 S Spring 1918 324 S Broadway 1920/1923 348 S Broadway The 1922 CD gives this listing: FLICKER MICHAEL, Importer and Manufacturer of Panama, Manila and Felt Hats, Hats Cleaned, Blocked and Repaired. Quote:
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A husband could have his hat remodeled and cleaned while the Mrs. shopped at Hamburger's (advertised, at the time, as the largest department store on the Pacifc Coast*) oops. The location mentioned in odinthor's 1907 ad is the location prior to the Hamburger's largest department store. . Here is the 'new' Hamburger's Department store under construction in 1907 at the southeast corner of Broadway and Eighth Street. I'm not entirely sure in what direction we're looking in this pic. .... Is this the backside? :shrug: (probably a repeat for NLA)........... https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/FOlxML.jpgjewishmuseumamericanwest Hmmm, so who lived in the two large houses? ..... They must have been infuriated by the Hamburger's decision to build their behemoth literally in the homeowner's backyards! I would have been beside myself. p.s. The Hamburger / May Co. building still stands at 801 S. Broadway. |
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/jGqX6K.jpg http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=40811 Head! ("Great and Meaningful!") http://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img15/3365/fu0j.jpghttp://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=15524 Strawberry Alarm Clock (Incense and peppermints, the color of thyme . . .) https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...71&oe=5E3409E9https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...71&oe=5E3409E9 |
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I see that the Majestic Theater was known as Hamburger's Majestic Theater. (have we discussed this earlier on NLA?) If we have, I certainly don't remember it. (I don't remember alot of things) . |
A mystery location.
The California Shoe Manufacturing Co.....Torrance Calif....RPPC 1915. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/YU4sAE.jpg eBay ..looks brand spanking new! reverse https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/SYbvRG.jpg ...rotated for easier reading. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/kNI7tT.jpg I've had some difficulty locating the address because of the company's, somewhat generic, name. I also need some help with Lillian's last name. Is it Thurston...or Hurston? :shrug: Price: $39.99 . |
I believe it is clearly "Thurston." Or as Sam Spade would say, "Thurthton" (Obligatory noir reference) :)
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:previous: e_r, From what I was able to find, the date is a little confusing. In October 1913, the Torrance factory was still in the planning stages https://i.imgur.com/FphmdNu.png?1 Boot and Shoe Recorder October 29, 1913 http://https://books.google.com/books?id=KWA2AQAAMAAJ&pg=RA4-PA83&lpg=RA4-PA83&dq=california+shoe+manufacturing+torrance+1913&source=bl&ots=wGEZqP9dl-&sig=ACfU3U10B6OR08l8CKBxqc4B2I6BxUaGCw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjW9q3R2d3kAhVCoZ4KHQ8wCoIQ6AEwAXoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=california%20shoe%20manufacturing%20torrance%201913&f=false It seems that by May 1915, the company was offered for sale in a different trade publication. Unfortunately, no specific address. https://i.imgur.com/vTzGdsI.png?2 Hide and Leather May 1, 1915 http://https://books.google.com/books?id=GqE7AQAAMAAJ&pg=RA16-PA17&lpg=RA16-PA17&dq=california+shoe+manufacturing+torrance+1913&source=bl&ots=zhtPGvsBPr&sig=ACfU3U2b_D_scgNIpqrmXhVm-tDDRT2JIw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjW9q3R2d3kAhVCoZ4KHQ8wCoIQ6AEwEHoECAUQAQ#v=onepage&q=california%20shoe%20manufacturing%20torrance%201913&f=false In July of 1915,the company was involved in a financial lawsuit https://books.google.com/books?id=R2...201915&f=false So perhaps the postcard was written after a change in ownership related to the lawsuit? The building is intriguing to me as I worked in a very similar one in Torrance for years. Torrance was hit pretty hard by the 1933 Long Beach earthquake and this one could have been a casualty. |
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The California Shoe Manufacturing Co. is included in this Torrance panorama from 1914. https://i.imgur.com/arJYopl.jpg cdnc.ucr.edu - Los Angeles Herald - 15 August 1914 https://i.imgur.com/DslYSuX.jpg Number 3 in the picture, it was just north of the Union Tool Co. which was located at the NW corner of Western Avenue and Carson Street. Here it is in an ad for the Fuller Shoe Company, the first company in the building. https://i.imgur.com/J2ho6zj.jpg socalarchhistory.blogspot.com This reference in an architecture guide from 2003 gives the address and indicates it was still standing though converted around that time. It appears to have gone in the meantime. https://i.imgur.com/SK92grR.jpg Google Books - An Arch Guidebook to Los Angeles |
Thanks, Earl..Bristolian..and Noir Noir, for your follow-ups on the California Shoe Manufacturing Co. I really appreciate it.
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As far as I can see there aren't any clues available to figure out the location (or the people) in this rppc postmarked Los Angeles. [August 21, 1905]
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/mPjmXI.jpg eBay It appears to show the man of the house (or hotel?) posing with the hired help. Here's the reverse with the Los Angeles postmark. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/QFxwxx.jpg ............................:previous: Hey! ..maybe there is a clue. p.s. The more I think about it..this is part of the Michigan address. I got all excited for nuttin'. :( . |
For the fine dining tonight of Noirishers whose time machines are in good working order, our select panel of gastronomic critics suggests that you set your time travel to 1921-1928 so that you can enjoy the ambiance of the Turkish Village, at 221 1/2 W. 4th St.
https://i.postimg.cc/ryZYmL59/Turk-Vil1001.jpg First mention in the Los Angeles Times, as far as I can tell, is in the course of a story about a "Pageant Fete" in which "Lucile Joy of the Turkish Village" has a booth (October 21, 1921). Do remember Miss Joy . . . This mention is followed, over the years, by . . . (All below are Los Angeles Times, dates as indicated, via ProQuest via CSULB Library.) https://i.postimg.cc/cLPv46JN/Turk-Vil2-12-13-1921.jpg 12/13/1921 https://i.postimg.cc/tJRTmxBF/Turk-Vil3-6-12-1922.jpg 6/12/1922 https://i.postimg.cc/9f3fHSxm/Turk-Vil3-5-4-4-1924.jpg 4/4/1924 https://i.postimg.cc/gjBYSBXP/Turk-Vil4-8-3-1924.jpg 8/3/1924 https://i.postimg.cc/gJgdjBK6/Turk-Vil5-9-7-1924.jpg 9/2/1924 https://i.postimg.cc/kMhqdz40/Turk-Vil6-12-21-1924.jpg 12/21/1924 https://i.postimg.cc/kX69MsRB/Turk-Vil7-10-31-1928.jpg 10/31/1928 Bon appetit! |
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https://i.postimg.cc/7L5dHQkX/Torrance-Sanborn.jpg (Off Topic); I went to the opening of the "1919" exhibit at The Huntington" this evening(free food's always a draw with me). The Huntington is celebrating it's centennial, so they put up this exhibit. It was pretty crowded and Madame and I forgot our reading glasses, so we'll return to get a better look. It's something I'd take a look-see if you're a local. |
Apologies if this has been covered but Photobucket has instituted new pricing policies, if you are on the $1.99/mo plan (as I am) and exceed a storage limit they will ask you to delete images or they will start blurring your existing pictures....I have gone through some random thread pages and found the blurring....an upgrade to their $4.99 mo. plan gives you 25 GB of storage or 2,500 images, that's a lot of space and I think the price is fair....but there are those no longer active on the board or unwilling to upgrade so it is going to hollow out the thread somewhat.
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So what's the point? Websites and this thread are like yesterday's newspaper....here today, gone tomorrow. |
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This is exactly what we used to say about "Free" Photobucket. They never talked about charging for the sin of third party hosting until you were into them for ten years and many hundreds of photos. Then they drop a hammer and announce ''new conditions" As they say on the street, you've in for a bumpy ride with PB. I'm concerned when any hosting site says they're free. Is this a lure to hook you?. |
2314 W. 24th Street, Los Angeles - Calif.
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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/D2eg4P.jpg eBay The writing on the back says this is the Lookout Mountain Inn, Los Angeles. But the land around it appears to be flat. :shrug: Could this be some sort of a station down below? Here's the writing on the reverse side. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/8gnm4C.jpg To see 3940dxer's comprehensive poston Lookout Mountian Inn start HERE. . |
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As you correctly state, Martin, using any hosting site is a dangerous game. Imagine someone with 2250 photos in PB. If you want to go to a Free account, PB makes it almost impossible to delete those extra 2K photos. They only allow you a 5 minute session online to delete photos. At the end of each 5 minute interval you have to reinstate a new 5 minute session. PB is a total scam. If you fail to pay your monthly dues to PB they put into a type of Internet jail. |
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It was built by an Elizabeth Emens in 1904 on a lot that was at the very edge of the city limits (and would be until the Colegrove Addition of 1909). Looks like she was a speculator...George W. Perkins, a real estate man, was living there by the time the '07CD was issued. He died in 1916... https://i.postimg.cc/0NLx9Vdm/perkins-bmp.jpg LAT March 24, 1916 His wife and a daughter remained in the house, the daughter with her husband until about 1930 it seems. Thing is, the two Perkins girls were born in 1885 & 1887, so the kids in the pic can't be them.... |
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As its name suggests, Lookout Mountain was, like the Griffith Observatory or the Getty Center, a prime location from which to gaze down on Los Angeles and make a little sense of this famously incomprehensible city. Before roads reached the summit, hikers scaled Lookout Mountain, a 1,500-foot promontory rising above West Hollywood just west of Laurel Canyon, on foot to inhale its fresh mountain air and commanding views. Eventually, a growing streetcar network and the advent of the automobile—not to mention an experimental trackless trolley line in Laurel Canyon—made the peak accessible to the less adventurous. It also made the land irresistible to subdividers. In 1908, a syndicate of developers bought a 280-acre tract encompassing Lookout Mountain and sliced the land into 700 housing lots, offering them for $250 each. But the developers reserved the best vantage point for a grand hotel that would advertise the subdivision’s charms. The 24-room Lookout Mountain Inn opened in 1910, and its design took full advantage of the ridge-top location. Wide verandas on three sides of the main structure offered 270-degree views of the lowlands below and the ocean beyond. Guests, who paid $15 per week for room and board, could savor their chicken dinners while the city lights of Hollywood and downtown Los Angeles twinkled in the distance. The Lookout Mountain Inn met a fiery end on October 26, 1918, after only eight years of business. A brush fire—reportedly started by a group of boys cooking sausages in the foothills—raced up the canyons and reduced the wooden structure to charcoal. It was never rebuilt. Today, a six-bedroom, 9,300-square-foot house occupies the site, its once-famous views hidden behind security gates and privacy walls. |
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Going from this, I figured the location of the CA Shoe Manufacturing Company building as being here: https://i.imgur.com/Txd86nQ.jpg?2Google Maps Some of the street names have changed slightly and the property is now a gated community. Both El Prado and 212th st. from the Sanborn map are now parts of Border Avenue. Interestingly, the building sat between two still standing Pacific Electric landmarks, the bridge over Torrance Bl: https://i.imgur.com/TZjq1xQ.jpg?1 Pintrest ...and the Torrance Depot, now the Depot restaurant. I was able to find this image dated between 1912 & 1916 with the shoe factory in the background. You can also catch just a tiny bit of the bridge at the far left. https://i.imgur.com/F1dL7gz.jpg?1http://blogs.dailybreeze.com/history...rrances-depot/ |
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Here's how the area looked in 1941. The shoe factory is roughly at the center of this detail. https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...oeFactory1.jpg mil.library.ucsb.edu |
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I'll have to check the later Sanborns, but I believe that area* has long been an auto camp/mobile home location(it's current use). *The 1932 Sanborn lists the area as "cabins". There was a lumber yard, but it was south of 213th Street at Bow. |
:previous: Thanks for the clarification(s), Bill. I appreciate it.
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