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HossC Jun 24, 2018 7:50 PM

:previous:

According to that picture link, "This [Santa Monica] house is believed to be the one spotted in the 1959 movie Gidget." I found the movie online, and it does appear to be the same house (there's also a brief shot of the intersection).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...dgetHouse1.jpg
Columbia Pictures

Strangely, when Sally Field starred in the TV series of Gidget in 1965/66, they used 1162 Morning Glory Circle for her house, when the mirrored replica of the one in the movie was right next door.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...dgetHouse2.jpg
www.retroweb.com

JoeW Jun 24, 2018 7:51 PM

Filbert Jewelry
 
Trying to determine the era of J.H. Filbert jewelry. Checked google maps and found approximate location. 4516 or 4510 s. Broadway. Los Angeles. Any thoughts or knowledge would be greatly appreciated.

Lomara Jun 24, 2018 8:11 PM

Scotty and the secret history of Hollywood screening
 
Just spotted this on KCET’s twitter feed. I had never heard of Scotty before seeing the posts about him here in the thread.

"Scotty and the Secret History of Hollywood" is the intriguing story of Scotty Bowers, a handsome ex-Marine who landed in Hollywood after World War II and became a confidante to many of Hollywood’s greatest stars. https://t.co/Crf1gBmREb

Trailer:
Video Link


https://www.kcet.org/kcet-cinema-ser...he-summer-kcet

Quote:

Come Out and See ‘Scotty and the Secret History of Hollywood’ at the Summer KCET Cinema Series on June 26th

“Scotty and the Secret History of Hollywood” will be released in select theaters on June 27 by Greenwich Entertainment. The film’s subject Scotty Bowers and director Matt Tyrnauer will be in attendance for a Q&A session immediately following the screening with host Pete Hammond who can also be seen in KCET’s Must See Movies.
This event is on Tuesday at the Aero in Santa Monica.

Previous posts about Scotty: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...87#post8034687

Martin Pal Jun 24, 2018 8:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8231578)
Strangely, when Sally Field starred in the TV series of Gidget in 1965/66, they used 1162 Morning Glory Circle for her house, when the mirrored replica of the one in the movie was right next door.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...dgetHouse2.jpg
www.retroweb.com

That house above was also Hazel's abode! So for one year Hazel and Gidget were living together!

HossC Jun 24, 2018 8:40 PM

:previous:

For years (1980s/90s) it was Roger Murtaugh's house too.


--------------


Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeW (Post 8231579)

Trying to determine the era of J.H. Filbert jewelry. Checked google maps and found approximate location. 4516 or 4510 s. Broadway. Los Angeles. Any thoughts or knowledge would be greatly appreciated.

I found John H Filbert's jewelry store listed at the following addresses in the City Directories.
NB. This section of Moneta Avenue is now S Broadway, so it looks like he was there from 1921 until at least 1942.

1914-1918 4775½ Moneta Avenue
1920 828 W 7th Street
1921-1926 4510 Moneta Avenue
1927-1942 4510 S Broadway

JoeW Jun 24, 2018 9:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8231603)
:previous



I found John H Filbert's jewelry store listed at the following addresses in the City Directories.
NB. This section of Moneta Avenue is now S Broadway, so it looks like he was there from 1921 until at least 1942.

1914-1918 4775½ Moneta Avenue
1920 828 W 7th Street
1921-1926 4510 Moneta Avenue
1927-1942 4510 S Broadway

Thank you HossC

Martin Pal Jun 24, 2018 9:23 PM

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/image...8/krakatoa.jpg

I looked up to see when this film opened. Krakatoa, East of Java premiered at the Cinerama Dome on May 14, 1969.

Then I discovered that this photo was taken a week ago! Apparently, Quentin Tarantino is filming "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood"
that takes place in 1969 and did some filming there.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dfl2NwvW0AUR4ve.jpg

https://scontent-lax3-1.cdninstagram...99039232_n.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgC_rMmX4AE3ngJ.jpg

I didn't find any 1969 photos of the Cinerama Dome marquee but there is this one of Sonny & Cher attending the premiere.
(I saw one photo that showed more of the marquee in the upper left hand corner that had the "VA" Of JAVA, but this photo is better.)

https://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l...xxeto1_640.jpgTumblr

Links about the filming and where the other above photos came from:
http://thenewbev.com/tarantinos-vaul...1969-makeover/

http://www.indiewire.com/2018/06/cin...ng-1201974493/

https://imgur.com/gallery/buGEejY

CaliNative Jun 25, 2018 5:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8231241)
X MARKS THE SPOT
'mystery' location. [c.1948]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/VID2nj.jpg
EBAY

"X marks where we lived in Los Angeles Calif. 1948."

info. on the back
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/8F9Eiq.jpg

Anyone recognized any of these buildings? -or perhaps the tall hill the photographer is standing on?

(a couple of the buildings looked familiar to me but they didn't pan out)


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Rounded low hills and valleys kind of look like near northside area of L.A., perhaps Highland Park, Atwater, El Sereno etc. Beyond that, can't say. Maybe the hill the photographer is standing on is in Elysian Park near where Dodger Stadium is now??

CaliNative Jun 25, 2018 5:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8231578)
:previous:

According to that picture link, "This [Santa Monica] house is believed to be the one spotted in the 1959 movie Gidget." I found the movie online, and it does appear to be the same house (there's also a brief shot of the intersection).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...dgetHouse1.jpg
Columbia Pictures

Strangely, when Sally Field starred in the TV series of Gidget in 1965/66, they used 1162 Morning Glory Circle for her house, when the mirrored replica of the one in the movie was right next door.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...dgetHouse2.jpg
www.retroweb.com

Anybody have any pics of the "My Three Sons" house? The Douglas family was supposed to be living in Illinois, but it sure looked like a San Fernando Valley ranch house. "Chip" went to No. Hollywood High when I was there. Seemed like an OK guy.

CaliNative Jun 25, 2018 5:23 AM

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ethereal_reality Jun 25, 2018 5:28 AM

Thanks for all the follow-ups on the Martin House vs Air Holes)
so we're....undecided then :shrug: half says bird house...half says vent holes

Don't you have to occasionally clean out birdhouses?

odinthor, is there a way to gain entry into the birdhouse from inside your attic?
You know, like a removable panel that you can unscrew.
Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8231340)

Here's a pic NLA has seen before of Schloss Odinthor, built in 1957,
with odinthor himself, built in 1954, engaged in some nefarious task:

https://s26.postimg.cc/iqinz2rgp/TorsoLo.jpg
gsv

At the peak is . . . what has always been called the Ornamental Bird House:

I've never heard an explanation of this feature, in which birds take a singular lack of interest.

:previous: I didn't notice the birdhouse the first time you posted this photo odinthor. I'm not sure how I missed it....it's not exactly small.

SIDENOTE:
the pic with odinthor digging in the front yard does look rather...ummm...mysterious.
-makes me think of the rose bushes in Rear Window where everyone thinks Raymond Burr buried his wife's head.




https://imageshack.com/a/img924/9917/Fysu99.gif
GIPHY

CaliNative Jun 25, 2018 6:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8231632)
http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/image...8/krakatoa.jpg

I looked up to see when this film opened. Krakatoa, East of Java premiered at the Cinerama Dome on May 14, 1969.

Then I discovered that this photo was taken a week ago! Apparently, Quentin Tarantino is filming "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood"
that takes place in 1969 and did some filming there.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dfl2NwvW0AUR4ve.jpg


When the movie was released the critics had a bit of fun pointing out that Krakatoa is actually WEST of Java.

ethereal_reality Jun 25, 2018 6:22 AM

Earlier today I came across this night view of the Sears Store in Hollywood. [c.1925]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Hp8lgR.png
EBAY

as a reminder, here's what it looks like today.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/ALYMn5.png
GSV

Everytime I see this I :gaah:

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ethereal_reality Jun 25, 2018 6:36 AM

Another item currently on ebay.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/znLRFi.jpg
EBAY

Out on the town at
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/C1OV4k.jpg


for search purposes:
Billy Berg's - 1356 North Vine Street - Hollywood California - May 25, 1945

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/5zEL4a.jpg

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ethereal_reality Jun 25, 2018 7:05 AM

Here's one more before I call it a night.

'Orig 1958 Kodak Star 35mm Slide LAX Airport Parking Lot Los Angeles CA Photo"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/DsZbS6.jpg
EBAY

This lot appears to be on the outer edge of the airport. I wonder where [in the scheme of things] this parking lot was located.

(anyone have a map of LAX from this time period?

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Otis Criblecoblis Jun 25, 2018 7:06 AM

John Hubbard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8230187)

I recently got a new DVD release of three Roach Films. I've seen two of them so far. Online there's some divergent opinions on TURNABOUT, but I think it's a veritable hoot! (Plus great art deco sets.) It's based on a Thorne Smith novel. Smith also was famous for writing the novels of Topper and I Married a Witch.

I like Turnabout. it has a delightful cast, and it's great to see John Hubbard in a lead role. I greatly enjoy Hubbard's work in 77 Sunset Strip, which reveals a remarkable versatility. He's in several of the best episodes.

CityBoyDoug Jun 25, 2018 7:36 AM

http://www.latimes.com/resizer/vqqrv...4HEG7FXRHY.jpg
LATIMES

1958: American Airlines' flight engineer Frank Nusser, left, and Capt. Don Young wait by their aircraft for fog to lift at Los Angeles International Airport. ((John Malmin / Los Angeles Times))

BillinGlendaleCA Jun 25, 2018 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 8231842)
Rounded low hills and valleys kind of look like near northside area of L.A., perhaps Highland Park, Atwater, El Sereno etc. Beyond that, can't say. Maybe the hill the photographer is standing on is in Elysian Park near where Dodger Stadium is now??

My guess is the photographer is standing new Point Grand View in Elysian Park. You can see the San Gabriels in the far background.

DCT61 Jun 25, 2018 11:54 AM

FINALLY!!! After all these years lurking on this site, I can finally contribute!
The architectural feature found on those homes ("birdhouses") is called a
DOVECOTE. I'm a Architectural designer here in Nashville, TN and have put them on houses occasionally.

From Wiki: A dovecote or dovecot /ˈdʌvkɒt/ (Scots: doocot) is a structure intended to house pigeons or doves. Dovecotes may be free-standing structures in a variety of shapes, or built into the end of a house or barn. They generally contain pigeonholes for the birds to nest.

odinthor Jun 25, 2018 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8231852)
Thanks for all the follow-ups on the Martin House vs Air Holes)
so we're....undecided then :shrug: half says bird house...half says vent holes

Don't you have to occasionally clean out birdhouses?

odinthor, is there a way to gain entry into the birdhouse from inside your attic?
You know, like a removable panel that you can unscrew.

:previous: I didn't notice the birdhouse the first time you posted this photo odinthor. I'm not sure how I missed it....it's not exactly small.

SIDENOTE:
the pic with odinthor digging in the front yard does look rather...ummm...mysterious.
-makes me think of the rose bushes in Rear Window where everyone thinks Raymond Burr buried his wife's head.




https://imageshack.com/a/img924/9917/Fysu99.gif
GIPHY

Thanks, e_r: It's immediately adjacent to, but disjunct from, the house proper, other than the two beams which project from the house and support the dovecote (thanks, DCT61!). It would be possible to have a little door in the back panel of the dovecote, giving access from the house's roof to the interior of it . . . but it was not built with one. The main function of the back panel seems to have been for . . . house painters to ignore it. I happened to be on the roof one day, scanning the horizon for invading Visigoths, noticed its state of neglect, and have ever since made sure house painters do not neglect it. Birds, however, get no use of the feature, as the birdholes have screens. It's decorative, and provides a little styling; but one could say it's strictly for da boids.

Just my luck to have the Googlemobile catch me as I . . . added organic material to the soil . . . ;)

Cyndihdz Jun 25, 2018 5:55 PM

Old building in Huntington Park
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7829382)
:previous: I did. :)

below: See that large building in the background on the right?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...nSignShop2.jpg
eBay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/25cVkp.jpg
gsv

It looks like it might have been a large auditorium of some sort? An intriguing building to say the least.



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/61w9zc.jpg
google_earth

Here it is in relation to the old sign shop location.

_[/QUOTE]

Hello....i just found a picture of this building here from the 60's
https://www.flickr.com/photos/metrol...posted-public/
I think it was a Bank of America? It is a little blurry for my eyes. Anyway sorry if someone already posted this, i pass by here frequently and some old buildings and houses still stand. Some. *sigh*

Flyingwedge Jun 25, 2018 8:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCT61 (Post 8231920)
FINALLY!!! After all these years lurking on this site, I can finally contribute!
The architectural feature found on those homes ("birdhouses") is called a
DOVECOTE. I'm a Architectural designer here in Nashville, TN and have put them on houses occasionally.

From Wiki: A dovecote or dovecot /ˈdʌvkɒt/ (Scots: doocot) is a structure intended to house pigeons or doves. Dovecotes may be free-standing structures in a variety of shapes, or built into the end of a house or barn. They generally contain pigeonholes for the birds to nest.

Thanks for the lingo, DCT61!

There are a number of homes in Westchester with dovecots, although not all the dovecots have holes; e.g., 6386 W. 79th Street:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...pswltjrrbg.jpg

Nov 2017 GSV

Next door, 6382 W. 79th Street's dovecot is also without holes. Across the street, the dovecots at 6371 and 6391 W. 79th
have holes. The dovecots at 7342 and 7366 W. 87th Place have holes, as does the dovecot at 8010 Georgetown Avenue,
but 8121 Georgetown's dovecot has slats instead.

All the above-mentioned homes were built in 1950-51.

ethereal_reality Jun 25, 2018 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCT61 (Post 8231920)
FINALLY!!! After all these years lurking on this site, I can finally contribute!
The architectural feature found on those homes ("birdhouses") is called a
DOVECOTE. I'm a Architectural designer here in Nashville, TN and have put them on houses occasionally.

Thanks for the information DCT61!



Here's a half-assed lazy attempt at a dovecote.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/OnoCmC.jpg
pinterest

or maybe it's for one-dimensional birds

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ethereal_reality Jun 26, 2018 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyndihdz (Post 8232208)
Hello....I just found a picture of this building here from the 60's.

I think it was a Bank of America? It is a little blurry for my eyes. Anyway sorry if someone already posted this,
I pass by here frequently and some old buildings and houses still stand. Some. *sigh*

Cyndihdz
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/uQs7Mr.jpg
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________

Thanks for your help Cyndi!

You're right, Bank of America occupies the bottom corner of the building -but the second floor definitely appears to be some kind of assembly hall (masons?)
If only we could read the green canopy at the farther end of the building. That entrance probably leads upstairs. (& if we could read the two smaller blade signs)


afterthought:
We might have figured all this out earlier in the thread..but my memory fails me.
Does anyone remember our earlier findings?

ethereal_reality Jun 26, 2018 1:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8231601)
The house below was also Hazel's abode!

So for one year Hazel and Gidget were living together!

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8231578)
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...dgetHouse2.jpg
www.retroweb.com

For years (1980s/90s) it was Roger Murtaugh's house too.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/Ssmyr2.jpg
ITSFILMEDTHERE

re: Robert Murtaugh/Lethal Weapon

so how'd they do this pre-digital fire scene without destroying the house? Did they simply rebuild it....because it's still standing, correct?

(I hope Hazel and Gidget got out)

ethereal_reality Jun 26, 2018 1:33 AM

X MARKS THE SPOT.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/DyLtZO.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 8231842)
Rounded low hills and valleys kind of look like near northside area of L.A., perhaps Highland Park, Atwater, El Sereno etc. Beyond that, can't say.
Maybe the hill the photographer is standing on is in Elysian Park near where Dodger Stadium is now??

Thanks for your help CaliNative! I'll check out the places you mentioned. I'm gassing up the google-mobile right now. ;)

Scott Charles Jun 26, 2018 2:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8232781)
X MARKS THE SPOT.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/DyLtZO.jpg

Thanks for your help CaliNative! I'll check out the places you mentioned. I'm gassing up the google-mobile right now. ;)

My first thought was Frogtown, as seen from Elysian Park. But I checked it out on Google Maps, and couldn’t get any of the streets to match up.

Lorendoc Jun 26, 2018 5:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8231878)
Here's one more before I call it a night.

'Orig 1958 Kodak Star 35mm Slide LAX Airport Parking Lot Los Angeles CA Photo"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/DsZbS6.jpg
EBAY

This lot appears to be on the outer edge of the airport. I wonder where [in the scheme of things] this parking lot was located.

(anyone have a map of LAX from this time period?

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Thanks for posting this, e_r. I learned to fly light planes at Santa Monica Airport that the City of Santa Monica is so busy trying to close. About 10 years ago my instructor one evening told me we (I) was going to fly us from Santa Monica to LAX, then back again. So I flew us in a Cessna 182 in and out; it was like being a dwarf in the Land of the Giants. To say I was super-alert would be an understatement :) My mother learned to fly Piper Cubs at the Grand Central Airport in 1947, it ran in the family it seems :)

The historic aerials site shows that the original LAX developed to the east of today's south complex (runways 7/25). I've posted 1 photo with 100% 1958 aerials, another with 50/50 1958 aerials/modern streets, and finally the modern street layout.

1:
https://i.imgur.com/4EG5p84.jpg
historicaerials.com

2:
https://i.imgur.com/azVXLiL.jpg
historicaerials.com

3:
https://i.imgur.com/RdIWw6n.jpg
historicaerials.com


With the building of the north complex, a new central loop was constructed to the west of Sepulveda Blvd which contained a street level parking lot. This replaced the terminal loop just south of Century Boulevard and east of Sepulveda on Avion Drive.


On the upper left of the 1958 aerial, you can see a neighborhood with many tract homes. These were all gone by the time the north complex was developed, replaced by what is now Lot C. This area suffered the same destructive fate as Surfridge to the west.

ethereal_reality Jun 26, 2018 8:10 AM

Terrific information Lorendoc! Thanks so much. I forgot how different the previous layout was when compared to present day LAX. (and it was still the old layout as late as 1963!)
:previous: So which of the Parking lots in the 1963 aerial do you think is the lot in the 1958 slide?
I searched for 1950s brochures (like car rentals) and map/pamphlets (showing the parking lots) but came up short. ZILCH, NOTHING
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P.S. You actually flew into LAX! You are a brave soul sir. And your MOM was a pilot as well.

-have any photographs you'd like to share :)..of you (or your Mom's) flying adventures?

ethereal_reality Jun 26, 2018 9:06 AM

L A L O' S

I have also been searching for a good vintage photograph of Lalo's Nightclub in East Los Angeles.
(or at least a larger version of the postcard below. The club was in business from around 1959/60 to 1974.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/5Oymva.jpg
frontera.library.ucla


Luckily, the top image of the postcard was good enough to make out the basic outline of the building (L shaped and set back a bit from the intersection)

And guess what...the Lalo's building is still there!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/nZkLrO.jpg
GSV / Northeast corner of Cesar E. Chavez Blvd. and N. Marianna Ave.

The building doesn't appear to have changed much.





Back in the club's heyday Lalo would even sign your menu. (that's a deal)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/tBeGob.jpg
Lalo's 4209 Brookyn Avenue AN-2-8017 * Los Angeles


You can read about Lalo Guerrero HERE, and HERE (Part 2)
His story is very interesting.

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Noir_Noir Jun 26, 2018 11:02 AM

Lalo's Club
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8233043)


You can read about Lalo Guerrero HERE, and HERE (Part 2)
His story is very interesting.

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Thanks for the links e_r.

A few more bits and pieces on Lalo's Club.

https://i.imgur.com/8OLL9mN.jpg
http://markguerrero.com/lalo_page.php


Two pictures from inside the club in 1965. In the first Lalo is introducing his son's band Mark and the Escorts.

https://i.imgur.com/7hIyRJ4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gta9rey.jpg

http://markguerrero.com/escorts_2.php

GaylordWilshire Jun 26, 2018 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8232723)
Cyndihdz
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/uQs7Mr.jpg
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________

Thanks for your help Cyndi!

You're right, Bank of America occupies the bottom corner of the building -but the second floor definitely appears to be some kind of assembly hall (masons?)
If only we could read the green canopy at the farther end of the building. That entrance probably leads upstairs. (& if we could read the two smaller blade signs)


afterthought:
We might have figured all this out earlier in the thread..but my memory fails me.
Does anyone remember our earlier findings?



http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original

HossC found it back in 2015 in post 31364....


Makes sense that there'd have been a ballroom upstairs.... Wonder if we'll ever find an inside view?

https://s8.postimg.cc/4a9vkye1h/HPballroomflyer.jpg

oldstuff Jun 26, 2018 2:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8233073)
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original

HossC found it back in 2015 in post 31364....


Makes sense that there'd have been a ballroom upstairs.... Wonder if we'll ever find an inside view?

https://s8.postimg.cc/4a9vkye1h/HPballroomflyer.jpg

They have apparently changed the street numbering as the building is now listed with the County Assessor's office as 6124 Pacific Blvd. They have the build date of the building as 1928. The square footage of the building is 19,400, a substantial size. It is now a 99 Cent Store. Some of the upstairs windows on the ends have been bricked in leaving only the middle six as actual windows. The six remaining windows appear to be original with the paned tilt out centers and metal framing. The cornice above the windows and the pilasters between them remain but now stucco or painted over and quite generic.

They do not seem to have messed with the domed roof. There are, what appears to be, two extensions on the back of the building. The one closest to the main part seems to contain the workings of an elevator, while the one nearest the alley seems just to be enclosed space.

A close up of the cupola on top of the dome reveals what looks like a six to eight sided structure with a vent fan at the back, presumably to cool the upstairs part before AC. There are a few windows at the upper part of the back which look like they were originally the size of the ones in front but which have been made smaller and are now covered with bars.

The address to the upstairs part, which has it's own entrance to the right in front, is listed as being 6130, as it says on the poster for the benefit, although the glass doors to that entrance are painted out and presumably locked. Probably now a fire exit for the upstairs. It is probably used as storage to the 99 Cent Store., as it does not appear to hold any other business
Anyone want to go there and ask to see the upstairs?

Note: the blade signs in the older photo say "Dancing" and what appears to be "Ball Room"

Noir_Noir Jun 26, 2018 5:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8233073)
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original

HossC found it back in 2015 in post 31364....


Makes sense that there'd have been a ballroom upstairs.... Wonder if we'll ever find an inside view?


Video Link



This Guns N' Roses video from 1987 was apparently shot in the ballroom at 6130 Pacific Blvd. There's only one fleeting wide shot glimpse of the interior in the video.


https://i.imgur.com/Ptn7Ki0.jpg



Called Mendiola's Ballroom it had a very brief stint as a punk rock venue in 1983 until this happened -

https://i.imgur.com/NmM2aQO.jpg
Seventh Planet Productions

GaylordWilshire Jun 26, 2018 8:41 PM

:previous:

Excellent find, NN



Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8232723)



And I notice that the bus is another GMC similar to this one...

https://s8.postimg.cc/rr7an8rid/graduatebus.jpg
IMCDB

Apparently not actually a Santa Barbara bus, bit one tricked out like one. The church scene was filmed about 30 miles east of the ballroom, in
La Verne.... Assume the bus scene was filmed out there too....? I think we've covered the church here before.

Beaudry Jun 26, 2018 10:09 PM

Apropos of nothing—

—been cleaning up around the place, which has involved digging up a lot of old brick, including these, which I stacked like so in my garage. Of all the people who might care about LAPBCo, I imagine some of them are on this forum, so here ya go.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1788/...416e6973_h.jpg

odinthor Jun 26, 2018 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 8233851)
Apropos of nothing—

—been cleaning up around the place, which has involved digging up a lot of old brick, including these, which I stacked like so in my garage. Of all the people who might care about LAPBCo, I imagine some of them are on this forum, so here ya go.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1788/...416e6973_h.jpg


Bricks are highly interesting to me. (I'm being serious!) Thanks, Beaudry!

Beaudry Jun 27, 2018 4:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8233864)
Bricks are highly interesting to me. (I'm being serious!) Thanks, Beaudry!

Well in that case—my property also has this low arroyo-stone wall that someone decided to raise a few inches with the inclusion of brick. (Or it was designed this way from the get-go, but I think that unlikely.)

The bricks read PSP which indicates they're from the Pacific Sewer Pipe plant which was just down the street from me in Lincoln Heights.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/924/2...4dde783e_b.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/925/4...56f947ec_b.jpg

MartinTurnbull Jun 27, 2018 4:43 AM

This Architect Designed LA City Hall — And Most Of DTLA's Other Famous Buildings
 
LAist.com just posted a story about John Parkinson, who is the subject of a new documentary, Iconic Vision: John Parkinson, Architect of Los Angeles, which premieres on PBS SoCal on July 5, 2018

http://laist.com/attachments/kpcc_mr...on06262018.jpg


http://laist.com/2018/06/26/this_arc...a_city_hal.php

sadykadie2 Jun 27, 2018 5:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8233864)
Bricks are highly interesting to me. (I'm being serious!) Thanks, Beaudry!

The article was fascinating. Didn't stop to look at the different types of brick before, but I sure will now:tup:

Lorendoc Jun 27, 2018 5:32 AM

more early LAX
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8231878)
Here's one more before I call it a night.

'Orig 1958 Kodak Star 35mm Slide LAX Airport Parking Lot Los Angeles CA Photo"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/DsZbS6.jpg
EBAY

This lot appears to be on the outer edge of the airport. I wonder where [in the scheme of things] this parking lot was located.

(anyone have a map of LAX from this time period?

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I'm pretty sure you are looking at the main parking lot adjacent to the terminals lining Avion Way on its loop off of Century Boulevard.

Here is how the LAT diagrammed the expected results of the move of the airlines from Burbank to LAX which took place in December, 1946. This cartoon shows what airlines were to be located in which terminals and hangars.

https://i.imgur.com/nM9lKCg.jpg
LAT 10/20/46 via UCLA

The structure I've circled in red at the bottom left of the cartoon is Hangar No. 1, the first building built at Mines Field shortly after it opened in 1928. It is a handsome Spanish colonial revival, and somehow has avoided the wrecker's ball. It was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1992, and is still in use. Here's a current view:

https://i.imgur.com/pC48ucG.jpg
Google Creative Commons

Here is a UCSB aerial from 1955 which shows that almost all the projected terminals got built, except the Pan Am hanger. I've put the numbers from the cartoon caption on top of each terminal building:

https://i.imgur.com/K5gENIp.jpg
UCSB


Today, Nos. 1, 2, and 3 seem to still be there as can be seen from this aerial view:

https://i.imgur.com/dmmipdY.jpg
GSV

The closest I could get the googlemobile to the old terminal buildings was this:

https://i.imgur.com/QVUF0m5.jpg

… in which can be see the original Western, United, and American hangars are also survivors. Not very distinctive at this late day, I'm afraid.


The pre-1961 terminal layout explains the name of "Airport Boulevard". I have always driven on or past that street noting it doesn't go particularly close to the modern airport. But it certainly did from 1946 to 1961, it was principal way to reach the main terminal area from the north.

Lastly, here is a fun video from 1954:
Video Link



Thanks Scott Charles for the embedding tip!

Scott Charles Jun 27, 2018 6:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8234268)
Lastly, here is a fun video from 1954:
Video Link



As I can never seem to be able to embed video here, here is the URL for the YouTube vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8PQJXE5Nu8

It’s a little tricky… it took me a while to figure it out.

First you copy the identifier of the video - it’s the part that comes after “v=” in the URL (the V stands for video). In this case it’s “j8PQJXE5Nu8”:

Code:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8PQJXE5Nu8
Then you paste that identifier in between the YOUTUBE tags, like so:

HTML Code:

[YOUTUBE]j8PQJXE5Nu8[/YOUTUBE]
Which gives you this:

Video Link


Not very intuitive, I know. :help:

ScottyB Jun 27, 2018 6:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8231241)
X MARKS THE SPOT
'mystery' location. [c.1948]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/VID2nj.jpg
EBAY

"X marks where we lived in Los Angeles Calif. 1948."

info. on the back
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/8F9Eiq.jpg

I thought it might be a fun to try and figure out where exactly this person lived.





close-up of the lower 1/3 of the photo
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/DyLtZO.jpg
DETAIL

Anyone recognized any of these buildings? -or perhaps the tall hill the photographer is standing on?

(a couple of the buildings looked familiar to me but they didn't pan out)


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Been puzzling on this one for a while. The unusual street alignment (<) suggests York Blvd. and Alumni Ave. in Eagle Rock (which would put Occidental College in the fuzzy right edge of the scan) , but it is a challenge to make the perspective work.Here's *kind of* from where the shot would had to have been taken (I suspect zoom lens distortion is adding to my confusion). Not sure it really works.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1821/...2e5a013f_b.jpg
USGS

ethereal_reality Jun 27, 2018 7:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8233062)
This is from inside the club in 1965. Lalo is introducing his son's band Mark and the Escorts.

https://i.imgur.com/7hIyRJ4.jpg
http://markguerrero.com/escorts_2.php

https://i.imgur.com/gta9rey.jpg
http://markguerrero.com/escorts_2.php

WOW...how'd you ever find family photos Noir Noir. Great detective work!




"What iz yor secret in finding deez fotos?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/oqP3cc.jpg
I WAKE UP SCREAMING

spill da beans...or swim wit the fishes."




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HossC Jun 27, 2018 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8234268)

Here is a UCSB aerial from 1955 which shows that almost all the projected terminals got built, except the Pan Am hanger. I've put the numbers from the cartoon caption on top of each terminal building:

https://i.imgur.com/K5gENIp.jpg
UCSB

I posted Julius Shulman pictures of a couple of those buildings just over a year ago. I've picked out two below - the full post, including a side-by-side comparison, is here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7790094)

It's a relatively easy location to identify from Julius Shulman today. This is "Job 139: John Kewell, Airline Buildings, 1947".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

You can see the Western Air Lines building on the far right of this picture of the United Air Lines building. Note that I'm writing "Air Lines" as two words in each case to reflect the signage.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute


HossC Jun 27, 2018 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8231241)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottyB (Post 8234285)

Been puzzling on this one for a while. The unusual street alignment (<) suggests York Blvd. and Alumni Ave. in Eagle Rock (which would put Occidental College in the fuzzy right edge of the scan) , but it is a challenge to make the perspective work.Here's *kind of* from where the shot would had to have been taken (I suspect zoom lens distortion is adding to my confusion). Not sure it really works.

You're not the only one who's been stumped by this one, ScottyB. I think you've found a good match for the street layout, but the buildings seen
in the 1948 (the year written on the back of e_r's photo) aerial below aren't the ones in the image above. I guess the search continues...

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...leRock1948.jpg
Historic Aerials

Matt Maxwell Jun 27, 2018 4:23 PM

Hey folks, dropping back in to thank everyone for their research and postings. Trying to get caught up after being away for awhile is...daunting.

In the meantime, here's some neon from Eagle Rock (on Colorado Blvd.)

Ugh. Posting a link as I don't have a reliable image hosting platform at the moment. (Yahoo password not working for Flickr and I haven't been able to fix that yet.)

Highway 62 Revisited

Okay, trying linking to Flickr again since maybe I got the account working.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1808/..." height="576"

Lorendoc Jun 27, 2018 7:40 PM

mystery location
 
I have been puzzling over the location of the hilltop view along with others. The structures in the original photo look more sparse than the aerials of York avenue from 1948 suggest.

http://imageshack.com/i/pl8F9Eiqj


I wonder how much we can trust the date, it looks like it is written in a different hand with a different pen.

BillinGlendaleCA Jun 27, 2018 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8234983)
I have been puzzling over the location of the hilltop view along with others. The structures in the original photo look more sparse than the aerials of York avenue from 1948 suggest.

I wonder how much we can trust the date, it looks like it is written in a different hand with a different pen.

If it's York, I'd think Sparkletts would be in the picture, they've been at that location since the 20's.

tovangar2 Jun 28, 2018 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8231241)
X MARKS THE SPOT
'mystery' location. [c.1948]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/VID2nj.jpg
EBAY

"X marks where we lived in Los Angeles Calif. 1948."

...

I thought it might be a fun to try and figure out where exactly this person lived.





close-up of the lower 1/3 of the photo
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/DyLtZO.jpg
DETAIL

Anyone recognized any of these buildings? -or perhaps the tall hill the photographer is standing on?

(a couple of the buildings looked familiar to me but they didn't pan out)


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How about 3314 Division in Glassell Park?:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4W...=w1069-h572-no
google maps

Hill behind:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/De...B=w701-h445-no
gsv of 3314 Division

Shops across the street:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/VO...y=w924-h598-no
gsv

Looking down from the 1800 block of Burnell Dr:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Rr...=w1147-h580-no
gsv

And...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ev...r=w776-h254-no
per e_r

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9Q...O=w644-h508-no
google maps


ETA
Here's a plot plan from 1941, so it was a church even then (at least round the back). Dunno if it was a Four Square Church of the Open Door then like it is now:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TI...L=w362-h502-no
ladbs


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