The Blue Dahlia
 

Thanks helpful Hoss & CBD for the Trancas location. Now it is my turn to bring some Malibu noirish find.
In "The Blue Dahlia" (Alan Ladd & Veronica Lake 1946) we see the same Malibu Inn from the same point of view in the rain by night at 29:05 of the movie.

CBD-- There's one in every family.


Stick to LA History and leave other topics and personal attacks out of this forum. I do unless I see misinformation or am accused of ulterior motives.

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Mystery intersection, Hollywood California. [no date]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/JduPjV.jpg
eBay

There are some interesting places along the right side of the street.





Let's take a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/b7Ffbq.jpg
detail

I'm especially intrigued by the Italian restaurant located in a house. ... The sundry store is advertsing theatrical makeup among its many other items.
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"Woman Leaving the Hollywood Palladium. c1940"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/PMC6fp.pnghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/EpXZh9.jpg
eBay

At first I was going to argue that this wasn't the Hollywood Palladium. .


. . .but on closer inspection it says so right under her feet.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/fWSr4a.jpg
CLOSER INSPECTION

Just think how much that Jimmy Dorsey broadside would be worth today!

I wonder if she's a big band singer. She looks like she means business (in a cheery sort of way)....Maybe the paper she's holding is her contract.

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Is the current Starbucks in this building?
 

[QUOTE=HossC;8903812]:previous:

Here's the Trancas Restaurant at 30763 Pacific Coast Highway.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...LATrancas1.jpg
www.pinterest.com

As of May 2016 the building was still there.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/9666/nyaeI9.jpg

....:previous: THIS. ...

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The Naples Italian Restaurant was at 1508 N Gower Street in the 1956 CD. Here's a 1939 view of the intersection from the rooftop of CBS Columbia Square. The "Fountain Lunch" sign from e_r's picture is visible at the far left.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...nsetGower1.jpg
hollywoodhistoricphotos.com

https://www.imcdb.org/i298428.jpg
Paramount Pictures

Hey Alvaro and Hoss thanks for the helpful links and info on this movie and its location shots. :tup:

:previous: THIS

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From a short video at framepool


Is anyone familiar with a drive-in called NUTBURGERS?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/11rHQG.jpg
framepool

It doesn't ring a bell for me.

Hmm. . .nutburgers make me think vegetarian.








I'm familiar with the next venue.

The Vendome on. . .Sunset, I think.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/zkL0Fe.jpg
framepool

I am surprised by all the autographs seekers milling about. .....The elegant white car that just pulled up looks like Jean Harlow's car.


Here's a closer look at the sidewalk monkeys.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/PKXx9E.jpg
framepool

It looks like Broderick Crawford is signing some autographs.




The next scene is a gentleman walking into the fantastically designed Sunset Haberdashers.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/WlI9Ci.jpg
framepool

At first I thought it was a mausoleum at Forest Lawn! .... (either that or the Pioneer Memorial, downtown) Tne one with the waterfall.





Lastly we see an A & P Grocery Store with a Thrifty's.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/kzu4KS.jpg
framepool





To watch the 1:22 video click on the link below.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/hKUaPw.jpg
http://footage.framepool.com/de/shot...w-schuhabdruck


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Sunset & Fairfax
 

Very cool movie. The SW corner of Sunset and Fairfax has a RiteAid where you can still get Thrifty ice cream.

https://i.imgur.com/AGlJpgy.jpg
USC digital library

Looks like pretty much the same building:

https://i.imgur.com/ce2PUui.jpg
GSV

I'm sure we've seen the Sunset House Haberdashers on NLA before--it was later the Hollywood Reporter Building and that of the LA Weekly--but I couldn't find any old posts.


https://i.postimg.cc/bNvv9z2s/sunsethousefull.jpg
LAT Jan 3, 1938


https://i.postimg.cc/mZjnG4p3/sunsethouseas-HR-bmp.jpg
Martin Turnbull (which is why I'm sure we've seen the SH before)

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https://i.postimg.cc/FFjC43gb/LAWeekly.jpg
gsv

Looking pretty scruffy these days, alas. The street arrow is saying, "Hey, look!"

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Wow! It's still standing and recognizable.

How did I not know this?

Jo !
 

Funny, she looks like Jo Stafford who sang the same years with brother Tommy !

It was slated for demolition as part of the enormous Crossroads of the World redevelopment project, but there was enough influence to save it. https://la.curbed.com/2015/5/29/9955...-redevelopment

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GjcTCNBde...tersection.jpg
http://abakusplace.blogspot.com/search/label/california

http://i.imgur.com/9feA9.jpg
http://abakusplace.blogspot.com/search/label/california

[QUOTE=Godzilla;8902178]:previous: Source indicates Eleventh and Flower Streets.

Meanwhile, in 1940, Malibu
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CqCVduA0O...beach+1940.jpghttps://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CqCVduA0OQ0/U30rsMQIK5I/AAAAAAAAPFc/wf2mLYV6pgY/s1600/Malibu+beach+1940.jpg]

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I could be wrong, but the station wagon in the parking lot on the left (below Trancas sign) looks early 1950s. Difficult to say for sure.

My original reply included a quote saying "The Trancas Restaurant was built in 1949 after the Malibu Trading Post, on the same location, burned down.", so the 1940 date for the Malibu photo appears to be wrong.

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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/WzUyK0.jpg
framepool


NUTBURGERS is mentioned in Aldous Huxley's Brave New World.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/aBhFoB.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/RjYEjk.jpg
Brave New World [1932]




I'm still looking for the NUTBURGERS address.
:superwhip
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Thanks for the information, quickstop.



I spotted another 'giant' downtown.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/bEyPuu.jpg
anthony hernandez

He's wearing white gloves so I think he was directing traffic.


The dispassionate look on the girl's face perfectly reflects the daily grind.


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I found this amazing panorama from the 1920s showing Hollywood.

https://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g...16.40%20AM.png

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...ll170/id/19711

I zoomed in and was looking around and noticed this bridge. What do you think it is?

https://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g...49.21%20AM.png

e_r, in lieu of an address, could I interest you in a recipe?


https://i.postimg.cc/wMf5QKp8/Nutbur...AT-9-10-50.jpg
LA Times, 9/10/1950

If anyone has this novel:

https://i.postimg.cc/rF7xVNyJ/Nurburgers2.jpg
Amazon.com

and can read the entirety of p. 44 . . .

https://i.postimg.cc/Sx88JYJp/Nutburgers3.jpg
google book search

and the book is describing a real scene, then we might have a clue...

Aerial shot of MGM's Circus Maximus set for “Ben-Hur” at La Cienega and Venice Boulev
 

To film the spectacular Circus Maximus chariot race for 1924's Ben-Hur MGM built an enormous set where La Cienega and Venice Boulevards meet. La Cienega is the straight road cutting the top left hand corner, and Venice is the one at a slight diagonal from one side of the photo to the other. Most of this land is now home to the Santa Monica Freeway.


https://martinturnbull.com/wp-conten...geles-1924.jpg

https://martinturnbull.com/wp-conten...enice-2020.png

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You can still see the location of the set at the center of this 1928 image. Comparing it with the current Google Maps view, I'd say it stretched from the Kaiser Permanent Venice Medical Offices towards the intersection of S Crescent Heights Boulevard and Sawyer Street. I sampled a few house prices in the area, and they all came out between $1.3 and $2.1 million - I wonder how much the land cost in 1924?

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...BenHurSet1.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

Aerial shot of MGM's Circus Maximus set for “Ben-Hur” at La Cienega and Venice Boulev
 

OH WOW! You really can see it, can't you? I never heard what they did with the set? Maybe the left it up, like DW Griffin did with his "Intolerance" set over where the Vista Theater now stands.

Another Angle

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cgY-uCiAl...2Bhur%2B29.jpg
Hollywood Photographs via Hobot's Random pic thread

https://66.media.tumblr.com/eb8c473c...gw4o1_500.gifv
King Bros.---United Artists

Maybe the Nutburgers was not an establishment in it's own right but part of "Gates' Nut Kettle" at the SW corner of Sunset and Doheny.


The few references I could find for a "Nutburgers" point to that location.


Ronald Reagan was a visitor -

https://i.imgur.com/FwFF47R.jpg
salon.com


And Charlie Chaplin's sons were fans -

https://i.imgur.com/tRe62Mm.jpg
socalarchhistory.blogspot.com


Here's the location in 1937 which also appears to be the year of the film footage -

https://i.imgur.com/xxoDtXc.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu


You can see cars pulled in head-on to the building like in the film.


:shrug:



The sign on the corner of Sunset and Doheny for "Gates' Nut Kettle" posted in 2013.

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I always wondered what happened to Thrifty's. Great ice cream. 3 scoop icecream cones for 15 cents as late as the 1970s. I guess they became RiteAids, or were taken over by them. At least they kept the Thrifty ice cream. I recall Thrifty headquarters in the 1980s was in an office building next to the Ambassador Hotel on Wilshire. Used to work near there. Now both the Ambassador and Thriftys are gone with the wind. When did the A&P chain go bye bye in L.A.? Used to have Safeways and Piggly Wigglies. Now gone.

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With covid 19 meat shortgages looming due to packing plant outbreaks, we might be back to eating nutburgers soon. :help:

Apologies. Didn't see that. I remember Trancas. Was it named for the owner? My fave place to eat in Malibu back in the 1960s was the Sea Lion. Pretty good sea food. The sand dabs were good. The waves literally crashed onto the big picture glass windows. My family used to drive from the hot Valley during summer down Topanga Canyon, and it would emerge on the coast not far from the Sea Lion. The temperature always seemed at least 20 degrees cooler than the SF Valley. What a relief and a good Sunday dinner too!

A little more on Gates' Nut Kettle...


https://i.postimg.cc/k5WrB1KH/gates1-bmp.jpg
Froim the Palm spring Desert Sun Nov 5, 1937



A little noir at 9115 Sunset: On May 5, 1940, in a list under this headline were a Robert Dale and a Ralph Parker of 9115....

https://i.postimg.cc/8c5LnYbX/9115headline-bmp.jpg



Also associated with 9115 Sunset was

https://i.postimg.cc/Kj4X0Z3K/9115edwards-bmp.jpg
Hollywood Reporter May 23, 1939

:shrug:

I believe ''Trancas" is the name of the canyon that exits into the ocean. Anyone know different?

Other film library services offering the same nutburgers footage have it dated 1937.


https://i.imgur.com/wvBevLt.jpg
producerslibrary.com

https://i.imgur.com/cfFEtkH.jpg
footagefarm.com

If we face food shortages in the future, yes we'll be eating ''nut burgers" which contain NO meat but does contain Velveeta cheese which is not cheese but a gross fake cheese milk product. Bon Appetite.
My fav is Faux Apple Pie. It contains no apples...but substitutes zucchini squash or crackers.

No apples in this treat:
http://www.ketovangelistkitchen.com/...de-300x239.jpg
Recipes dot com

How does that figure in to LA history??

Yea, it was scary in those Los Angeles days....I can remember.:yes:
This was an era in Los Angeles schools that I saw several of my classmates on crutches.....polio. Kids were mostly affected.

These are from a chase sequence in "Killer Dill", a low budget 1947 crime comedy......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMX37wkIXLo&t=3570s


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

920 S. Hobart Blvd.



https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

The unassuming Linnell Apts. are now the pompously named Hobart Towers.



https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...psfpjksaro.png

W. 9th St. (now James M. Wood Blvd.) just east of S. Serrano Ave.....St. Germaine Apartments on the left.


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds



https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...psps72kw8n.png
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https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...psrlf0tiaf.png
???



https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...psmzsx1sdm.png

I believe this is S. Serrano Ave. and San Marino St.



https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds


The clue here is the sloping white wall in front of the apartment building, and the stairway....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds


The foundation for the demolished building was never completely removed....  

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

Looks like there was a fire in the building in 2012 or 2013, here's the GSV from Feb. 2014:
https://i.postimg.cc/7ZdYvcNG/Annota...-30-185809.jpg via GSV.

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April 2013 -


https://i.imgur.com/DgCljUe.jpg
reddit.com - r/LosAngeles

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He later played the butler "Lurch" on the Addams Family. The grim girl is probably reflecting on her lousy job where she is constantly hit on by her rotten boss, or maybe other grim realities of the 1950s like mushroom clouds and Joe McCarthy, or maybe she is just dog tired and her feet hurt. The days before "social distancing". The blond lady behind her appears to be checking her cell phone.

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Just so we don't have to eat "Soylent Green". I also refuse to eat bugs although I make an exception for crustaceans. Nutburgers sound pallatible, as are soyburgers. "Soylent Green (spoiler)...IT'S PEOPLE!!!"...Charleston Heston at his hammy over the top best(?). Also last pic of the GREAT Edward G. Robinson, so good in top noir "Double Indemnity".

I can't answer the 1928 prices, but my uncle has lived on the 1900 block of Stearns Drive since 1958. He paid $7500 back then. They added a third bedroom after the 1994 earthquake, which makes me think most of the original houses are two bedrooms. In the last 10-15 years, I've seen a bunch of remodels/mcmansion/additions in the area. Also what used to be the land for KRTH101 at Fairfax and Venice (it had to be at least 3-4 acres of land) has been turned into multi-million-dollar-no backyard- sidewalks-too close together-homes.

Two prior posts on the San Marino Villas, from 2014, including this one with a video of the demolition and one of HossC's here.

I watched the linked video....its cool at twice speed....4 minutes.

Hey thanks GW for posting.

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Thanks to all you NUTS who helped locate Nutburgers, A.K.A Gates' Nut Kettle! ...(especially Noir Noir)

I was beginning to think we'd never find it.

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They didn't move the cameras far to film the chase. This is looking east on San Marino from the corner of S Serrano - that's the gate of the demolished San Marino Villas on the right in the image below.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...SanMarino1.jpg
GSV

This is just across San Marino, also looking east (we're about where the red car is in my previous image). What looks like two houses on the right of the image above was actually the double front of a C-shaped building. After checking Historic Aerials, it disappears between 1980 and 1989.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...SanMarino2.jpg
GSV

Finally, here's a reminder of 920 S Hobart under construction. My full post also includes pictures of The Armitage Apartments/Hobart Plaza at 545 S Hobart.