Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8631741)

in re: Photobucket

I never have any problems with Postimage.org:

https://postimages.org/about

Aye, laddie, and it's free, too! :tup:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 8631601)

Looking southeast, with the camera atop the County Courthouse (a favorite among the large-format photographers of the day). The buildings in the extreme lower-right corner are facing New High Street. We can see (left-center middle distance) a little section of San Pedro Street (later Wilmington then Weller and finally Astronaut Ellison S. Onizuka Street) pointing almost directly at the camera. This section of San Pedro/Weller/Onizuka is only one block long running from 2nd Street (and San Pedro) to 1st and Los Angeles Streets (nearer the camera). This is one very good and consistent reference point telling us we're on the County Courthouse. Nearer the camera (left near foreground) we can see the infamous Vienna Buffet, on Court Street between Spring and Main Streets, just poking out around the corner of the J.A. Bullard Building (5 stories with the domed turreted corner). St. Vibiana's Cathedral can be seen (center-right, middle distance) at Main and 2nd Streets and the Orpheum Grand Opera House at Main and 1st. To the right of St. Vibiana's you can see the unique round structure of the Panorama Skating Rink at 320 S. Main Street although the rink itself set well back from the street and was accessed through a long covered walkway. An altogether nice shot.

Detroit Publishing Company glass negative.

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8627906)

:previous:

I agree with FredH. Here's a head-on view of the tunnel from after Broadway was lowered. The angle of the railing to the left of the child coupled with angle of the tracks means he must be at the top. I ruled out position "2" because although the railing slopes the right way, there appears to be a protruding balcony in the second image which isn't seen in the original picture.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...wayTunnel2.jpg
silentlocations.com

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8631895)

'mystery' aerial eBay.....Los Angeles 12/07/1940

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/4ZfDz3.jpg





Passenger service at this location? Isn't this Atwater Village?

Does 'Fletcher Field' or 'Resolute' ring any bells?

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8632051)

:previous: Thanks Bill. I appreciate the help, buddy.

I am bound and determined to find information on Resolute Passenger Operation. :shrug:


and figure out whatever this structure is. (batting cage?) ;) (aviary?)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/D8tj1x.jpg
DETAIL

Your guess is as good as mine.

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8632261)

Support for a billboard? The billboard being on the left side of said structure.

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 8632302)

I'm trying to i.d. this corner....from some raw footage shot for KTLA news on 6/15/73....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz__CrlePJ8


https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...psldlsaodd.png

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 8632302)

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 8417444)

^^^
Yeah, Ellroy's a piece of work. Grievously hurt as a child, so entitled to sympathy as a person but not as a writer. I grew up listening to cop talk around the dinner table, had occasion to work with law enforcement before retiring, and I never heard anybody talk even remotely like that article. "Brace" for interview? It's a military term. "Wits" for witnesses? And I'm to believe somebody used the term "reefer" in the 1970's?

Sigh. But 'tis the Season, so let's give Ellroy a pass. Best Wishes for the Holidays to all the Noirishers :cheers:

Cheers,

Earl

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 8632302)

I'm trying to i.d. this corner....from some raw footage shot for KTLA news on 6/15/73....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz__CrlePJ8


https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...psd4a9bjtq.png

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8632266)

Maybe CBD...but that doesn't explain the odd 'interior space'. A billboard frame wouldn't be nearly that complicated, would it?
(but you're probably right.....what else could it be)





Guess What. ... I believe I solved the "Resolute Passenger Service" mystery!

"Goodyear did not operate advertising its advertising blimps during WII.
At the beginning of the war the U.S. Navy took command of Goodyear's five advertising blimps
(the Resolute, Enterprise, Reliance, Rainbow and Ranger) and operated them as Navy blimps L-4 through L-8."


Here is a rather romantic image of the Goodyear Blimp, 'Resolute'.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/8iqM43.jpg
https://www.airships.net/blog/great-...limp-resolute/




and as L-4.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/12clsg.jpg
airships.net ...........................................................................................................................................Could this be Fletcher Field?


I can't explain why the ebay pic mentions a 'passenger operation'. I don't believe you could squeeze more than a dozen passengers in that...ummm.....pod-thing. (I can't think of the technical term)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/au86Km.jpg

And as someone mentioned earlier, Grand Central Airport in Glendale was nearby..
Does anyone know: Did blimps, or dirigibles, ever land at Grand Central Airport?


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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8632266)

and as L-4.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/12clsg.jpg
airships.net

I can't explain why the ebay pic mentions a 'passenger operation'. I don't believe you could squeeze more than a dozen passengers in that...ummm.....pod-thing. (I can't think of the technical term)

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8632418)

OF COURSE, I had to make an attempt to figure out the other locations in that video... :rolleyes:



NO IDEA. Note the sign on the right that says “7th Street”:

https://i.imgur.com/BOLKi9H.jpg



Anybody care to take a shot at the unidentified images?

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8632418)

OF COURSE, I had to make an attempt to figure out the other locations in that video... :rolleyes:


NO IDEA:
https://i.imgur.com/0dD1BfN.jpg

Anybody care to take a shot at the unidentified images?

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8632418)

Absolutely NO idea - if you can figure this one out, you're a GOD among noirishers. Pershing Square, perhaps, maybe the library?
https://i.imgur.com/HaVyJOq.jpg

Originally Posted by Otis Criblecoblis (Post 8610859)

I ate at both the Westwood and Culver City Ships, the Culver City location a number of times in its last years. They featured toasters at every table. The food was not all that good.

I went to that Victoria Station a good deal. It had the virtue of being affordable as a special-occasion place. The food was good! But the "funicular railway" was nothing more than an elevator operating along an incline.

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8632470)

Sure, the one above is 7th and Olive looking south. The B of A is now the Hotel NoMad, the building across the street is still there and has a 7-11 on the ground floor, and the white building with the windows is the old Federal Reserve building(now the Reserve lofts).

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8632975)

Wow, you've got a good eye, BillinGlendale - I just pulled up the location on Google Maps, and the area is barely recognizable to my eyes. Man, that area down there certainly changed!

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8632474)

https://i.imgur.com/0dD1BfN.jpgI'll try another, that's 5th and Olive; Googlies is on the left. I think the shot previous to that one is 6th and Grand(AT&T building), but some things don't seen right about my guess. The previous shot is 6th and Olive.

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8632868)

I think you got this one spot on, Scott Charles. Here's the Fifth Street entrance to the library, just up Fifth from two of the other shots. The scene above was probably filmed from the end of Hope Street, just along from the Engstrum.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...yEntrance1.jpg
GSV
NB. This image is from 2011 because I wanted a clear view of the seat for comparison, but it still looks the same today.

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8633036)

That means that the following two spots are the only ones in the movie not yet identified:

https://i.imgur.com/0dD1BfN.jpg

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 8632437)

I think blimps might have been what was planned for Fletcher Field.
With the other two airfields close by, landing more planes might have been tight.

https://i.postimg.cc/y8cNLzPG/Capture1.png
Abandoned and Little Known Airfields
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Originally Posted by FredH

I read something that a blimp was developed at Grand Central Airport, but before they flew it, a faulty valve stuck open and blew out all the rivets.
The guy went broke and pushed it back into the hanger. There might have been some others though.
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Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8633036)

I just realized that one of the unidentified photos (top left) is literally across the street from one of the other photos... both of the two top video shots were taken at 6th and Olive:

https://i.imgur.com/Bq8bGkD.png

That means that the following two spots are the only ones in the movie not yet identified:

https://i.imgur.com/0dD1BfN.jpg]

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 8633255)

:previous:

E.R. - We are looking at the El Monte area here. South of the San Bernardino
(10) Freeway and east of Rosemead Blvd (Highway 19). I think part of the old airport is still vacant land. (brown spot on the map)

https://i.postimg.cc/6qkc2PfZ/Capture.png
Google Maps


The area looks like a big gravel pit, or something.

https://i.postimg.cc/85CtqMC7/Capture1.png
Google Street View

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8633088)

Fletcher Field, if it was ever completed, would be at upper left, between the wing of the plane and the river.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8633088)

FredH, I agree that the designated landing area at 'Fletcher Field' was intended for blimps.
..but I wonder if 'Fletcher Field' was ever actualized? There is almost no documentation on it. (except for the photograph I found on eBay)




The aerial below was taken sometime between 1925/26 (when Slate Aircraft Corp. built their dirigible hanger)
and before 1928 (when the Grand Central Air Terminal was built.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/I93eFu.jpg
abandonedairfields
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This would have been the Slate Aircraft Corp. It actually predates Glendale's Grand Central Airport by only a few years. (as shown in the annotated aerial above)

Here is Thomas Benton Slate with his prototype for his rigid dirigible

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Lz0g2K.jpg
i.pinimg




And here you see the Slate Aircraft Corp. dirigible hanger under construction. (1925/26)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/kMACCN.jpg
i.pinimg




Voila! The hanger is finished. ....(I like how D I R I G I B L E is spelled out between the hanger windows)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/Gruc6z.jpg

Slate's prototype appears to be growing.






And, finally, here is a fantastic aerial. ...(I believe this was taken the day Slate's dirigible, City of Glendale, blew its rivets).....Dec. 19, 1929.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/D7vuqs.jpg
tropicostation

The airship hangar with the L.A. River in the background.

Fletcher Field, if it was ever completed, would be at upper left, between the wing of the plane and the river.

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 8633396)

Look at all that Riparian woodland by the River....before all the concrete channels (put in after the great flood). A real river and woods. Probably steelhead trout too.

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8633328)

OK, now I'm confused. This is about 4 or 5 miles north of Fletcher Drive and the location of the aerial in your original post. I think there were already houses where you're now saying Fletcher Field is.

Originally Posted by UphillDonkey (Post 8633748)

Fletcher Field would not have been directly across the river from The National Guard Airport in Griffith Park. It would have been further downstream a couple of miles where Fletcher Drive crosses the river.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8633774)

Is this (see below) about right, UphillDonkey?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/LQWQnP.jpg
abandoned airfields

I am judging by the curve in the river. (shown in the 1940 aerial)

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8633754)

We've come to the conclusion that Fletcher Field never came to fruition. I wasn't clear on my annotated aerial photo. I should gave included "proposed site for" Fletcher Field.
But as the eBay aerial show....there were no houses at that exact spot in 1940.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/4ZfDz3.jpg

Taken on Dec. 07, 1940. (DATE: Upper left corner)

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8634238)

Oh man, I'm sorry I steered everyone in the wrong direction. I was so sure of the location I failed to check other possibilities.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8635021)

mystery theater.

I always associated the widescreen process Cinerama with the Cinerama Dome.

This Kodachrome slide shows a second Cinerama Theater in Hollywood (or downtown Los Angeles)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/FftD4Y.jpg
eBay / found a long time ago.

Does anyone recognize this theater? (I have an idea..but I'll keep mum)

The studio(?) went to a lot of trouble...and spent alot of money...to cover up the theater's name. (the name is hidden underneath the tall blade sign, as well as on the marquee)

Was all this done just for the showing of South Seas Adventures? :shrug:


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Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8630887)

There are a couple of ways to get photos without people or cars: one is to take multiple photos and combine them together (though this would have been much more difficult pre-Photoshop), the other is to take a really long exposure (usually with a neutral density filter) so the moving objects just blur out to be non-noticeable.