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BillinGlendaleCA Jun 22, 2019 7:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FredH (Post 8613271)
I'm going to stick with my original guess that #2 is a gas-o-meter near the 102 brewery. I don't think there was anything else that tall in the area.

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There were gas-o-meters on both sides of the 101, they're not the ones that were south of the freeway(east of Brew 102), they're too far east. If it is a gas-o-meter, it could be on the north side of 101.

Martin Pal Jun 22, 2019 8:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Otis Criblecoblis (Post 8613139)
Your mention of Hamburger Hamlet here is especially pertinent, because yes, HH's quality plummeted precipitously in its last few years. I still grieve over the loss of that excellent chain. Boy, do I miss their Tin Roof Sundae!
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I miss the Cinnamon Chip Ice Cream.

riichkay Jun 22, 2019 11:41 PM

Last add re: photographer Peter Stackpole (pg. 2584)....he was a minor character in one of the most notorious tales of the noir city, that of Errol Flynn, his yacht "Sirocco", and the allegation of rape on the part of 15 year-old actress Peggy Satterlee....Stackpole was on board that fateful August 1941 weekend, photographing Flynn for a Life Magazine feature...


https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...ps5rws6rpz.jpg



Satterlee goes for a ride on Flynn's dinghy....

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In Oct. 1942, Stackpole's pictures were subpoenaed by the D.A. as evidence that Satterlee had been on board (a fact that Flynn was not contesting)...Sid James, the magazine's L.A. bureau chief, expressed concern about Life's involvement in the case potentially damaging their relationship with the industry in this internal memo....

https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...smzlpg5v7.jpeg



As the trial approached Stackpole became increasingly concerned that Flynn's attorney (legendary Hollywood fixer Jerry Giesler), would drag him into the case, as Stackpole had driven the girl home from the docks at the end of the weekend....

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Satterlee displaying the subject photos at trial....

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Giesler to the left of Flynn.



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As it turned out, Giesler never employed the Stackpole gambit, winning acquittal based on Flynn's celebrity appeal to the predominantly female jury, and Satterlee's sketchy background (she'd already had an abortion)....here Flynn thanks the jurors...(Flynn was also acquitted of raping another young woman, Betty Hansen, at the same trial)....



In addition to the acquittal, the trial benefited Flynn in that he made the acquaintance of 19 year-old Nora Eddington, who was working at the courthouse's snack bar....she was soon pregnant and the couple married in Mexico in 1944.



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Flynn, Eddington, Rita Hayworth and husband Orson Welles celebrating Hayworth's 28th birthday aboard Flynn's yacht "Zaca" in a Mexican port, 10/17/46....Hayworth and Welles were filming the classic film noir "The Lady from Shanghai", they both starred in the pic and Welles also directed....Flynn was contracted for 2 months use of the boat, which he piloted up the coast to San Francisco, where the film reaches it's climax.


Flynn and Eddington were divorced in early '49, within months she was remarried, to the crooner Dick Haymes.


Eddington and Haymes split up in '53, and Haymes was quickly married again, this time to....wait for it....Rita Hayworth.


As for Peggy Satterlee, there is no mention of her whatsoever in the press after 1945...IMDB reports that she died in Reno NV. on 11/5/2005, age 79.


Source for the Stackpole/Flynn saga is here.... http://blog.nyhistory.org/peter-stac...lynn-and-life/

Godzilla Jun 23, 2019 3:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham (Post 8589208)
I remeber the comercials for Earl's car painting. The price was $19.95 then, my Aunt had her 49 Chev. painted there. One real bad thing Earl did was not cover th rubber on the tires when spraying the rims. Earl just used tire paint to cover up the color that got on the tires. I remebered that when I took a Sunbeam Alpine to them many years later and told them to not spray the wheels for that reason. They ignored my request and sprayed them the same old way anyway. I was mad to say the least. I was looking for a cheap paint job to sell the car and it was cheap but not very good quality.



1951, Muller Bros Polish for $7 or for 5x that get the spray and infrared treatment.


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JUne 1951, Muller Bros. $35.00

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ethereal_reality Jun 23, 2019 5:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 8613290)
It's hard to tell if E. 30th was once Joy St., but I think you're pretty close to that interesting old home's location, e_r.

On the 1909 map below, A = Alameda Street, S = Santa Fe Avenue (where Vernon Avenue still jogs), and R = the Los Angeles River.

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...pshykudskz.jpg

2006-0252b @ CA State Library

This map is great. :previous: I don't believe I have seen it before. Thanks for your help, FW.



"In 1905, Vernon was incorporated by ranchers James J. and Thomas J. Furlong and John B. Leonis, a merchant.
They named the new city after a dirt road, Vernon Avenue, crossing its center."
...........from WIKI

Speaking of Vernon Avenue....

"Mrs. Mark Cook at the Vernon Avenue entrance to Carl's Viewpark restaurant, charmed to be America's finest combination drive-in and restaurant."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/4p7m8y.jpg
LAPL / Photo dated: February 26, 1938.

The photograph of Mrs. Mark Cook seemed vaguely familar to me.. so I went googling.


I could have been thinking of this photograph of Scott's lovely mom at Viewpark Chapel. (same name, Viewpark....same architectural style...& both have one woman in dark clothing)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Los Angeles Past
Mom at UMM's flagship Viewpark chapel at 3719 West Slauson, in 1941.

https://otters.net/img/lanoir/momutt...070641_lap.jpg

I still have the Winton wristwatch Mother is wearing there. It was a gift to her from Mr. McKinley.

-Scott

Read Scott's entire post HERE



To read more about Carl's Viewpark Restaurant (top photo) you can visit Tourmaline's post HERE

I'm sorry that I blew up at you, Tourmaline. :( I sincerely apologize.
I wish you would return to NLA.


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sadykadie2 Jun 23, 2019 6:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8601519)
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Thanks for a great 10 years, noirisher!


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When I was a single mom, this site was my escape at night after a hard day at work. I would look forward all day to being here. Thanks for being a place that was just so much happiness during a hard time in my life

sadykadie2 Jun 23, 2019 6:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8608691)
They've all changed the ''meat'' they're allowed to use. Now, more of what used to be discarded meat [dog food] is used....such as connective tissue.

Back in the day, you could get a high quality meal at Hamburger Hamlet where prime cuts were ground into ''hamburger". It appears that those days are long gone. Generally food in the USA is some of the worst in the world. Kids today don't know what it was like 60 years ago.

https://metvcdn.metv.com/0UK6C-14942...rgerhamlet.jpg
metv

We had a great Hamburger Hamlet here in Costa Mesa that closed in the 90's. Still miss it. I think those were the only 2 locations

Godzilla Jun 23, 2019 6:31 AM

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Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 8613466)
Last add re: photographer Peter Stackpole (pg. 2584)....he was a minor character in one of the most notorious tales of the noir city, that of Errol Flynn, his yacht "Sirocco", and the allegation of rape on the part of 15 year-old actress Peggy Satterlee....Stackpole was on board that fateful August 1941 weekend, photographing Flynn for a Life Magazine feature...


https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...ps5rws6rpz.jpg



Satterlee goes for a ride on Flynn's dinghy....

https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...psbshnerxv.jpg


Errol's son, Sean left a noirish LA imprint too (a la LIFE, circa 1961).



He maintained his swashbuckling skills in the AM
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Entertained in the afternoon.
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Hung out at the Pink Pussycat (presumably when it was located at 7969 Santa Monica Blvd.)
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And prowled the strip while Kookie was nearby parking cars.


Here he is in his XK, across from what was then called The Renaissance Club (8428 Sunset Blvd.) circa 1961. **


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** JHGraham offers an interesting glimpse of this address' colorful history:


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A nightspot existed in a former private residence at 8428 Sunset Blvd. as of 1930 at least, when it was the Cortez Club, managed by bootlegger-gambler (and future murder victim) Les Bruneman at the time of his involvement in the notorious Zeke Caress kidnapping in December of that year. By 1933 it was operating as the Club Seville, run by Alfred B. Freitas and raided by federal Prohibition officers for violation of the not-quite-yet-repealed Volstead Act (1). 8428 meanwhile, became one of the many Hollywood locations of the Russian Eagle supper club.
By the late 1930s it appears to have reverted to use as a private residence again, but as of 1943 it was operating as The Left Bank Theater. https://jhgraham.com/2016/06/14/8428-sunset-blvd/

CityBoyDoug Jun 23, 2019 10:57 AM

https://victualling.files.wordpress....3/wwii1945.jpg
JW

During WWII, restaurants in LA were packed to the ceiling with hungry customers. It was good manners to eat your meal and quickly leave. People were always waiting for a seat.

Martin Pal Jun 23, 2019 8:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8612565)
P.S.: It seems Photobucket is screwing around again. A lot of missing photos once more.
EXAMPLE:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=29964
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Working again right now. :shrug:



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Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 8613466)
Last add re: photographer Peter Stackpole (pg. 2584)....he was a minor character in one of the most notorious tales of the noir city, that of Errol Flynn, his yacht "Sirocco", and the allegation of rape on the part of 15 year-old actress Peggy Satterlee....Stackpole was on board that fateful August 1941 weekend, photographing Flynn for a Life Magazine feature...
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#NoirMeToo

Not assigning guilt or blame to anyone, but Errol was lucky he wasn't around nowadays. Maybe the girls weren't so lucky. I don't know.

At a 4k restoration screening of The Adventures of Robin Hood at the Arclight, more than a decade ago I believe, some of Flynn's relatives were there and one of them who they said was his grandson (maybe great grandson?) well, he seemed the spittin' image of Errol in looks and personality. I could definitely see him getting into trouble, too.

Martin Pal Jun 23, 2019 8:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 8613645)
** JHGraham offers an interesting glimpse of this address' colorful history:
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NoirCityDame, who used to post on NLA, often used Decobelle on her photobucket photo links and looking up her photobucket account it is under the name Jill Graham. Do you suppose the J.H. Graham of the website is NoirCityDame? :shrug:

ethereal_reality Jun 24, 2019 1:00 AM

I've always wanted my very own, pocket-size (so to speak), hovercraft!

Has anyone heard of the Dobson Air Dart?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/iMJ3vj.jpg
old file / possibly found on ebay

Unless I'm reading the ad wrong, all you get for your two dollars are the plans!

This might explain why the 1539 N. Laurel Avenue address is an apartment building. (behind the Laugh Factory on Sunset Blvd)






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CityBoyDoug Jun 24, 2019 12:35 PM

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Always there has been fun things coming out of L.A.

Gee, why didn't these catch on?

ethereal_reality Jun 24, 2019 3:41 PM

:previous: Can you imagine a thousand of these things on the 101.

Martin Pal Jun 24, 2019 5:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8614216)
3518 W. Cahuenga Blvd.
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Just a short swing from Monkey Island at 3300 Cahuenga Blvd.

FredH Jun 24, 2019 8:09 PM

OK Guys - I'll see your Dobson Air Darts and raise you a Polaris Nuclear Sub

https://i.postimg.cc/2SGVhXQz/sub.png



Note: Mine comes with nuclear missiles and torpedoes

CityBoyDoug Jun 24, 2019 9:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FredH (Post 8614683)
OK Guys - I'll see your Dobson Air Darts and raise you a Polaris Nuclear Sub

https://i.postimg.cc/2SGVhXQz/sub.png



Note: Mine comes with nuclear missiles and torpedoes

It requires assembly....looked kind of difficult.

ethereal_reality Jun 24, 2019 10:22 PM

'MYSTERY' SALOON

Since the Fourth of July is coming soon...it's time to post these two amazing cabinet cards I came across recently on ebay.

"2 Original Antique Photos, Los Angeles Saloon Interior/Exterior, 4th of July Bunting, 1907."

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Ebay

The exterior is of the bar. It is on the corner. The awning reads "Wine & Liquor." It's address if 507 (though, what street it is on eludes me). The bar is decorated with Independence Day bunting and flags (it is a 45 star flag, which means that this photo almost certainly dates from 1896 to 1908, when the flag would have been current). There are several ads and signs for booze around the entrance (including Los Angeles Beer and Ye Olde [Something] Exported Whiskey). On the left we can see a laundry, the "Model Hand Laundry," which has a sign for a boxing match (or possibly a reel of a match), featuring "Battling Nelson" on the 25 of May at the Pacific Athletic [Something]. Amongst the crowd of men gathered at the entrance we can see a tall man with a waist-apron, a mustache, and a chain of some sort. Him and the man to his right can be seen inside of the saloon. On this side there is writing (in two hands) that reads "LA Calif 1907." It appears to be in pencil.
Ebay







The interior.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/ek2lqS.jpg
Ebay


The interior shows a fairly nice bar. It proclaims "Positively No Credit." There are several ads and signs for drinks. They include: Export Pony Rye and Dr. Pepper (of all things).
Also, several men from the other photograph are included in this one. Overall, it's a rich little scene, well-developed and packed to the gills with details.

Presumably these photos were taken very close together. They also both feature the same man with a mustache, which definitely connects these two photos.



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ethereal_reality Jun 24, 2019 10:25 PM

:previous:

SUPER SIZED

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/9hhHEh.jpg

There appears to be residences on the next block behind the saloon. (right edge of photo) - - - >




And here's the poster you can see in the window of the laundry business, far left.

I believe it is advertising a play, titled....ummm... Battling... something. (?)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/7JAra8.jpg
DETAIL / 1907

I've stared at this thing long enough. Can anyone else figure out what it says?





SUPER SIZED INTERIOR

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/pFaRkk.jpg

spittoons and tobacco spit...spread around by shoes. :yuck:

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HossC Jun 24, 2019 10:52 PM

:previous:

The 1902 CD lists the Model Hand Laundry at 509 Ceres Avenue, which means that 507 was Ravera & Viotto's saloon/wine & liquor wholesale business at 507 Ceres Avenue.


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