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Godzilla Sep 19, 2019 4:06 AM


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Head! ("Great and Meaningful!")

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Strawberry Alarm Clock (Incense and peppermints, the color of thyme . . .)

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ethereal_reality Sep 19, 2019 7:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8691657)
e_r, I believe we're looking from the roof of the Percival Apt. bldg., which was on the west side of Hill St.

https://i.postimg.cc/yxkpbjD4/Percival09-Birds.jpg
1909 Bird's Eye View of L.A. (detail)

More of this area of Hill St. (including the Percival) can be seen at the end of http://web.csulb.edu/~odinthor/socal8a.html

Thanks so much, odinthor. :worship:

I see that the Majestic Theater was known as Hamburger's Majestic Theater. (have we discussed this earlier on NLA?)

If we have, I certainly don't remember it. (I don't remember alot of things)

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ethereal_reality Sep 19, 2019 7:30 PM

A mystery location.

The California Shoe Manufacturing Co.....Torrance Calif....RPPC 1915.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/YU4sAE.jpg
eBay

..looks brand spanking new!


reverse
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/SYbvRG.jpg




...rotated for easier reading.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/kNI7tT.jpg


I've had some difficulty locating the address because of the company's, somewhat generic, name.

I also need some help with Lillian's last name. Is it Thurston...or Hurston? :shrug:


Price: $39.99
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Earl Boebert Sep 19, 2019 8:34 PM

I believe it is clearly "Thurston." Or as Sam Spade would say, "Thurthton" (Obligatory noir reference) :)

Cheers,

Earl

Bristolian Sep 19, 2019 8:43 PM

:previous:
:previous:
e_r, From what I was able to find, the date is a little confusing.

In October 1913, the Torrance factory was still in the planning stages
https://i.imgur.com/FphmdNu.png?1
Boot and Shoe Recorder October 29, 1913

http://https://books.google.com/books?id=KWA2AQAAMAAJ&pg=RA4-PA83&lpg=RA4-PA83&dq=california+shoe+manufacturing+torrance+1913&source=bl&ots=wGEZqP9dl-&sig=ACfU3U10B6OR08l8CKBxqc4B2I6BxUaGCw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjW9q3R2d3kAhVCoZ4KHQ8wCoIQ6AEwAXoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=california%20shoe%20manufacturing%20torrance%201913&f=false



It seems that by May 1915, the company was offered for sale in a different trade publication. Unfortunately, no specific address.
https://i.imgur.com/vTzGdsI.png?2
Hide and Leather May 1, 1915

http://https://books.google.com/books?id=GqE7AQAAMAAJ&pg=RA16-PA17&lpg=RA16-PA17&dq=california+shoe+manufacturing+torrance+1913&source=bl&ots=zhtPGvsBPr&sig=ACfU3U2b_D_scgNIpqrmXhVm-tDDRT2JIw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjW9q3R2d3kAhVCoZ4KHQ8wCoIQ6AEwEHoECAUQAQ#v=onepage&q=california%20shoe%20manufacturing%20torrance%201913&f=false

In July of 1915,the company was involved in a financial lawsuit
https://books.google.com/books?id=R2...201915&f=false

So perhaps the postcard was written after a change in ownership related to the lawsuit?

The building is intriguing to me as I worked in a very similar one in Torrance for years. Torrance was hit pretty hard by the 1933 Long Beach earthquake and this one could have been a casualty.

Noir_Noir Sep 20, 2019 12:01 AM

:previous:


The California Shoe Manufacturing Co. is included in this Torrance panorama from 1914.


https://i.imgur.com/arJYopl.jpg
cdnc.ucr.edu - Los Angeles Herald - 15 August 1914


https://i.imgur.com/DslYSuX.jpg


Number 3 in the picture, it was just north of the Union Tool Co. which was located at the NW corner of Western Avenue and Carson Street.


Here it is in an ad for the Fuller Shoe Company, the first company in the building.

https://i.imgur.com/J2ho6zj.jpg
socalarchhistory.blogspot.com


This reference in an architecture guide from 2003 gives the address and indicates it was still standing though converted around
that time. It appears to have gone in the meantime.

https://i.imgur.com/SK92grR.jpg
Google Books - An Arch Guidebook to Los Angeles

ethereal_reality Sep 20, 2019 5:39 PM

Thanks, Earl..Bristolian..and Noir Noir, for your follow-ups on the California Shoe Manufacturing Co. I really appreciate it.

Despite being wholly utilitarian, the building has a certain charm to it.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/YU4sAE.jpg

I also like how the building appears to be sitting in the middle of nowhere.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 8692557)

In October 1913, the Torrance factory was still in the planning stages
https://i.imgur.com/FphmdNu.png?1
Boot and Shoe Recorder October 29, 1913

Now we need to find the previous location in Venice...perhaps that building is still standing. :shrug:






Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir Noir
https://i.imgur.com/DslYSuX.jpg


Number 3 in the picture, it was just north of the Union Tool Co. which was located at the NW corner of Western Avenue and Carson Street.

Excellent find, N N.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 8692538)
Or as Sam Spade would say, "Thurthton"

Ha. Ha. Earl. :haha:

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ethereal_reality Sep 20, 2019 6:05 PM

As far as I can see there aren't any clues available to figure out the location (or the people) in this rppc postmarked Los Angeles. [August 21, 1905]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/mPjmXI.jpg
eBay

It appears to show the man of the house (or hotel?) posing with the hired help.



Here's the reverse with the Los Angeles postmark.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/QFxwxx.jpg

............................:previous: Hey! ..maybe there is a clue.







p.s. The more I think about it..this is part of the Michigan address.

I got all excited for nuttin'. :(
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odinthor Sep 20, 2019 11:03 PM

For the fine dining tonight of Noirishers whose time machines are in good working order, our select panel of gastronomic critics suggests that you set your time travel to 1921-1928 so that you can enjoy the ambiance of the Turkish Village, at 221 1/2 W. 4th St.

https://i.postimg.cc/ryZYmL59/Turk-Vil1001.jpg

First mention in the Los Angeles Times, as far as I can tell, is in the course of a story about a "Pageant Fete" in which "Lucile Joy of the Turkish Village" has a booth (October 21, 1921). Do remember Miss Joy . . . This mention is followed, over the years, by . . .

(All below are Los Angeles Times, dates as indicated, via ProQuest via CSULB Library.)

https://i.postimg.cc/cLPv46JN/Turk-Vil2-12-13-1921.jpg
12/13/1921

https://i.postimg.cc/tJRTmxBF/Turk-Vil3-6-12-1922.jpg
6/12/1922

https://i.postimg.cc/9f3fHSxm/Turk-Vil3-5-4-4-1924.jpg
4/4/1924

https://i.postimg.cc/gjBYSBXP/Turk-Vil4-8-3-1924.jpg
8/3/1924

https://i.postimg.cc/gJgdjBK6/Turk-Vil5-9-7-1924.jpg
9/2/1924

https://i.postimg.cc/kMhqdz40/Turk-Vil6-12-21-1924.jpg
12/21/1924

https://i.postimg.cc/kX69MsRB/Turk-Vil7-10-31-1928.jpg
10/31/1928

Bon appetit!

GaylordWilshire Sep 21, 2019 12:32 AM

https://i.postimg.cc/jqpKKvKR/laplmissingpiece-bmp.jpg


Found item:

https://tucson.com/news/local/arizon...e6afd210e.html

oldstuff Sep 21, 2019 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8692439)
A mystery location.

The California Shoe Manufacturing Co.....Torrance Calif....RPPC 1915.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/YU4sAE.jpg
eBay

..looks brand spanking new!


reverse
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/SYbvRG.jpg




...rotated for easier reading.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/kNI7tT.jpg


I've had some difficulty locating the address because of the company's, somewhat generic, name.

I also need some help with Lillian's last name. Is it Thurston...or Hurston? :shrug:


Price: $39.99
.

I worked sort of backwards on this one and found the woman who the card was addressed to, Nellie Daniels. She worked in a shoe factory in Derry New Hampshire. She is listed in the 1910 census as living in a place with lots of other workers from the shoe factor. She was 30 years old in 1910 I did not have much luck with Lillian but will keep trying

Hollywood Graham Sep 21, 2019 1:34 AM

Thurston or Hurston
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 8694032)
I worked sort of backwards on this one and found the woman who the card was addressed to, Nellie Daniels. She worked in a shoe factory in Derry New Hampshire. She is listed in the 1910 census as living in a place with lots of other workers from the shoe factor. She was 30 years old in 1910 I did not have much luck with Lillian but will keep trying

If you look at the T in Torrance you will see it is the same T on Thurston.

BillinGlendaleCA Sep 21, 2019 5:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8692770)
:previous:


The California Shoe Manufacturing Co. is included in this Torrance panorama from 1914.


https://i.imgur.com/arJYopl.jpg
cdnc.ucr.edu - Los Angeles Herald - 15 August 1914


https://i.imgur.com/DslYSuX.jpg


Number 3 in the picture, it was just north of the Union Tool Co. which was located at the NW corner of Western Avenue and Carson Street.


Here it is in an ad for the Fuller Shoe Company, the first company in the building.

https://i.imgur.com/J2ho6zj.jpg
socalarchhistory.blogspot.com


This reference in an architecture guide from 2003 gives the address and indicates it was still standing though converted around
that time. It appears to have gone in the meantime.

https://i.imgur.com/SK92grR.jpg
Google Books - An Arch Guidebook to Los Angeles

Here's the Sanborn map of the area, the first insert at the top right goes above the area at the upper left, the one below that(with the CA Shoe Company building goes above that. The 3rd insert(with the Pearl Button factory goes below the main map(south of Carson). Looking at later maps, the shoe factory was an aircraft engineering firm by the late 20's.

https://i.postimg.cc/7L5dHQkX/Torrance-Sanborn.jpg

(Off Topic); I went to the opening of the "1919" exhibit at The Huntington" this evening(free food's always a draw with me). The Huntington is celebrating it's centennial, so they put up this exhibit. It was pretty crowded and Madame and I forgot our reading glasses, so we'll return to get a better look. It's something I'd take a look-see if you're a local.

riichkay Sep 21, 2019 9:45 PM

Apologies if this has been covered but Photobucket has instituted new pricing policies, if you are on the $1.99/mo plan (as I am) and exceed a storage limit they will ask you to delete images or they will start blurring your existing pictures....I have gone through some random thread pages and found the blurring....an upgrade to their $4.99 mo. plan gives you 25 GB of storage or 2,500 images, that's a lot of space and I think the price is fair....but there are those no longer active on the board or unwilling to upgrade so it is going to hollow out the thread somewhat.

BillinGlendaleCA Sep 21, 2019 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 8694497)
Apologies if this has been covered but Photobucket has instituted new pricing policies, if you are on the $1.99/mo plan (as I am) and exceed a storage limit they will ask you to delete images or they will start blurring your existing pictures....I have gone through some random thread pages and found the blurring....an upgrade to their $4.99 mo. plan gives you 25 GB of storage or 2,500 images, that's a lot of space and I think the price is fair....but there are those no longer active on the board or unwilling to upgrade so it is going to hollow out the thread somewhat.

Flickr also instituted limits on their free accounts, I upgraded to Pro(even though I've got Smugmug for my professional stuff) for $50/year.

Flickr Pro has unlimited storage.

CityBoyDoug Sep 21, 2019 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8694551)
Flickr also instituted limits on their free accounts, I upgraded to Pro(even though I've got Smugmug for my professional stuff) for $50/year.

Flickr Pro has unlimited storage.

There are no provisions for the perpetual display of your photos unless I have missed that. When someone is no longer paying their dues, their photos revert to a blur or disappear.

So what's the point? Websites and this thread are like yesterday's newspaper....here today, gone tomorrow.

BillinGlendaleCA Sep 22, 2019 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8694561)
There are no provisions for the perpetual display of your photos unless I have missed that. When someone is no longer paying their dues, their photos revert to a blur or disappear.

So what's the point? Websites and this thread are like yesterday's newspaper....here today, gone tomorrow.

Well, we have to rely on websites to display our pictures, no? Yes, if you stop paying for pro you revert to free with a restriction on the number of photos you can maintain.

odinthor Sep 22, 2019 3:48 AM

No such problems with the free Postimage.org (alias postimages.org):

https://postimages.org/about

:cheers:

CityBoyDoug Sep 22, 2019 9:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8694669)
No such problems with the free Postimage.org (alias postimages.org):

https://postimages.org/about

:cheers:

With all due respect Odin:

This is exactly what we used to say about "Free" Photobucket. They never talked about charging for the sin of third party hosting until you were into them for ten years and many hundreds of photos.
Then they drop a hammer and announce ''new conditions" As they say on the street, you've in for a bumpy ride with PB.
I'm concerned when any hosting site says they're free. Is this a lure to hook you?.

ethereal_reality Sep 22, 2019 3:58 PM

2314 W. 24th Street, Los Angeles - Calif.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/Wh0B6v.jpg
eBay

The little girl's sister must be shy. She's hiding in the shadows of the front porch.






The same home today.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/kR6wZn.jpg
GSV




The address on the back of the rppc.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/jK5P8m.jpg

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