Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 8719944)

I mentioned in my initial posts that the Mother Country relationship (if it indeed exists) may not necessarily come about in the traditional way - even though there is some evidence that some elements were nonetheless in play.

Most people have not taken my caveat into account in their responses.

But there is definitely something there and the way Canadians focus on and mimic so many things about the U.S. is arguably reminiscent of relationships with a Mother Country as observed around the world.

Regardless of what the genesis of that relationship was.

Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 8719886)

Dick Stacey's Country Jamboree! I remember it well. (I spent part of my childhood and youth in the Maritimes, you'll recall.)

Some of the show's main sponsors were from Atlantic Canada even though the show was produced in Maine.

Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 8719890)

Same here. "I'm just a bill yes I'm only a bill, and I'm sitting' here on Capitol Hill..." and "The Great American Melting Pot"...

When I look at some of my old friends' activity on social media, and how irate they can get about Trump and other U.S. issues, I wonder if the fact that we grew up with all this stuff so ubiquitous in our lives didn't subliminally convince a lot of people that U.S. issues are happening on "home turf".

Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 8719408)

For those who know Quebec a bit, "what the US might look like had it been French" is a fairly common view.

Originally Posted by Bcasey25raptor (Post 8719186)

except they don't, there is a deal of assimilation yes but for the most part someones roots stick with them and greatly colour the way they see the world.

as for latino and black influences? In the us they are HUGE influences. The uS has far more cultural influences from black and latino cultures than Canada does which skews the US quite a degree differently. In contrast first nations peoples and cultures are far more dominant here in Canada.

as for Vancouver being cascadia? I don't see it, other than the environment of the area, BC is quite a degree different from washington state. Vancouver is demographically vastly different from seattle due to the huge influence of asian populations here that are lacking in seattle.

BC is also more conservative than washington state is and in BC urbanization and urban planning is far more influences by asia then seattle is.

The uS side of the pacific northwest does have a lot of similarities with us but it's way overaggerated mainly by a subsect of young white people that either used to believe in the cascadia movement or still do.

I notice a difference between BC and washington even when only visiting bellingham.

In General Canada is a more conservative and reserved country then the united states is.

Originally Posted by esquire (Post 8719992)

^ I suspect that with the common language it's easier to absorb large amounts of news and information from the US. Imagine if the US was the same in every respect, except they spoke Spanish. Faced with a linguistic divide, there would be a lot more distance... the flow of imported culture and entertainment would decline dramatically, and we'd probably import a lot more from the UK, Australia, Ireland and other English-speaking countries instead of relying almost exclusively on the US.

Originally Posted by LakeLocker (Post 8720024)

Learned a lot today about Canada I had no idea that Vancouver was such an ordinary and typical Canadian city.

All this time I thought of the average Canadian city being like Saskatoon.

Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 8719995)

Well, personally, I view (English) Canada as being what the US would have looked like if the revolution had not occurred. :)

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark (Post 8719969)

It's tricky to resolve sometimes, as growing up it definitely felt to me, subliminally, that we were actually part of the USA even though I knew intellectually that we are not. It was only as I went through adulthood and my experiences expanded that I realized how different we actually are, in so many ways, and grew to appreciate the nuances of those differences.

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Originally Posted by LakeLocker (Post 8720024)

Learned a lot today about Canada I had no idea that Vancouver was such an ordinary and typical Canadian city.

All this time I thought of the average Canadian city being like Saskatoon.

Originally Posted by CityTech (Post 8720061)

The "average" Anglo-Canadian city is Peterborough. Its well known for this trait: its a very common place for marketers to test new brands and such.

Originally Posted by Bcasey25raptor (Post 8720048)

What does average have to do with it? This person tried to claim BC was identical to Washington state when it just isn’t.

Why do you desire so much to deny any of Canada’s uniqueness. We aren’t just “more America”. There’s a lot of differences at play.

As for average city?
The Toronto region the Golden Horseshoe has 9 million people, greater Vancouver-power mainland has 3 million, Calgary 1.5 million, Edmonton 1.4 million.

All 4 of those cities are very ethnically diverse and quite different from their American counterparts.

Like I’ve seen people try and claim Toronto is a Canadian Chicago which is absurd. The 2 cities are completely different in terms of politics, demographics, food cultures, built form, and histories.

The only thing they have in common is being a large city on the Great Lakes.

Don’t sell Canada short. I used to do that, I’ve learned better now that I have more experience.

Originally Posted by CityTech (Post 8720061)

The "average" Anglo-Canadian city is Peterborough. Its well known for this trait: its a very common place for marketers to test new brands and such.

Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 8720070)

Nah, Moncton is the quintessential Canadian city:

- 2/3rds anglophone, 1/3rd francophone
- officially bilingual (both municipally and provincially)
- lot's of snow
- hockey mad
- there are 35 Tim Horton's outlets in the metropolitan area.
- municipal police force is the RCMP
- the city even owns it's own sugar bush and produces it's own maple syrup! :tup:

Originally Posted by LakeLocker (Post 8720097)

For me it'd be something like London, Nanimo, Peterborough, Saskatoon, Lethbridge, Kelowna, Moncton etc.

Originally Posted by wave46 (Post 8720105)

I'd guess Ottawa-Gatineau.

3/4 English-speaking, 1/4 French. Large enough that recent immigration trends have affected it, but small enough that it hasn't completely changed the character of the city.

Kind of bland and boring in a sense, but a place you could see being comfortable raising a family.

Our national capital reflects the country reasonably well.

Originally Posted by LakeLocker (Post 8720093)

Your completely trying to fudge the numbers by factoring in immigrants.


They are in no way representative of average Canadian or American values.

This is like trying to get a pulse on francophones in montreal by talking to anglos.

Originally Posted by LakeLocker (Post 8720106)

Yeah well I don't factor in the french thing.

I'm a strong believer that Quebec has successfully fractured itself away from the rest of Canada.

I picked moncton because it's the only east coast city not on the ocean.

Originally Posted by Bcasey25raptor (Post 8720118)

So you think the only people that matter are whites? God you’re one hell of a racist.

Originally Posted by Bcasey25raptor (Post 8720118)

Let alone you completely ignore than the European population in Canada is FAR MORE British isles while us is far more influenced by Germans.

Originally Posted by Bcasey25raptor (Post 8720118)

Demographics matter whether you like it or not, Canada and the us are very very different demographically and that has shaped our cultures.

Originally Posted by Bcasey25raptor (Post 8720118)

White Canadians aren’t the same as white Americans outside of watching American tv and pop culture. By your definition white Australians would also be identical to Americans. It’s illogical inferiority complex inspired revisionist garbage.