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HossC Mar 2, 2017 12:54 AM

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You can see my 2015 post on how the freeways took over the Sisters' Orphans Home/Los Angeles Orphanage/LA Orphan Asylum site here.

CityBoyDoug Mar 2, 2017 1:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 7727871)
That beast looming in the distance is the Orphan Asylum, at 917 S Boyle (at Whittier). Read all about it here.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3694/3...71496db7_o.pngBerkeley Lib, via Calisphere

I hadn't seen this image ↑ before just now. Apparently, the Daughters of Charity, AKA "God's Geese," saw Curlett, Eisen & Cuthbertson's plans and said "Don't you understand this is an ORPHANAGE?! It needs to be spookier! More creepy towers and chimneys! What are we paying you for?!"

g]

One day,when I was about 10 years old, my step-father and I were driving by this building. He told me it was the Orphan's Home. At that moment he seriously threatened
to send me to permanently live in this building. I shocked beyond belief and will never forget that nightmare moment. He could be cruel.

tovangar2 Mar 2, 2017 1:53 AM

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ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2017 2:56 AM

Orphans with Mickey Mouse dolls, Los Angeles [c.1930s]

#1
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/o4xHma.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/shushm...7628208066431/


#2
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/nWOkZk.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/shushm...7628208066431/




But this orphanage doesn't look like the Gothic 'pile' out in East Los Angeles.


"Los Angeles Orphans' Home, Dedication Day May 30, 1936"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/qLJ7Dy.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/shushm...7628208066431/

note the shirtless man watching the festivities from the roof of the building across the street




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/8lc3s1.jpg




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/IBnPT3.jpg




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/iVjHNW.jpg


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/ZVv4Sg.jpg

Does anyone know where this school was located located?

All from
https://www.flickr.com/photos/shushm...57628208066431


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ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2017 2:58 AM

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Here's one more from this same group of photographs. (if someone can make out the name of the cleaners, we might be able to use that as a clue)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/mMwJkQ.jpg

unless they're on a field trip.

(the young man wearing the white shirt & million dollar smile must be the leader)




flickr
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/0MjxwD.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/shushm...57628208066431

tovangar2 Mar 2, 2017 3:08 AM

Hollygrove
 
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That's Hollygrove, 815 North El Centro in Hollywood. Marilyn Monroe, then 9, was taken there in 1935.

LAT article on its closing: http://articles.latimes.com/2005/dec...e-hollygrove20



P.S.

The facility, now the Larchmont Charter School, backs onto Vine Street. The original buildings are long gone:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8G...A=w938-h558-no
gsv

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/UD...w=w858-h552-no
google maps


Norma Jean Baker stayed at Hollygrove until June 1937, so, unless she was sick that day, she's in this photo:
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7728008)
"Los Angeles Orphans' Home, Dedication Day May 30, 1936"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/qLJ7Dy.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/shushm...7628208066431/

note the shirtless man watching the festivities from the roof of the building across the street

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That shirtless guy has gone missing:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/V_...Q=w745-h472-no
gsv

Beaudry Mar 2, 2017 5:57 AM

Hoss, thanks much! I knew there was an excellent post about its siting back there somewhere...

But back to garages. I wrote a bit about the Grand Central/Biltmore Garage at 5th and Grand; I sloppily thought the Stanton in Stanton, Reed & Hibbard was Jesse Earl Stanton, of Stanton & Stockwell fame; but it's Forest Q Stanton, and Lester Hudson Hibbard was the star of that group. A fine write-up of Stanton, Reed & Hibbard can be found here.

As there were all these garages within a stone's throw of each other, I thought I'd investigate each a bit.

Here's the three at Fourth and Olive, in a photo by Reagh, 1966:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2825/3...67cb0044_o.pnglapl

The parking lot of course is the former site of the Fremont Hotel.

At left, the Central Garage at 363 S Olive, designed by Lester H Hibbard (Stanton, Reed and Hibbard, contractors), erected in 1923, demolished 1989. Now, Central Garage was built in '23 by the Biltmore Corp. Looks like they built it but were eyeing the 1920, also Stanton, Reed & Hibbard-designed Grand Central Garage which was closer to the Biltmore. So they disposed of the one up on Fourth and Olive and took over the one at Fifth and Grand.

The Clark Hotel had built their garage at 350 S Olive/425 West 4th in 1919. That's the one renamed the Center Garage, AKA the one with the elephants. The architect is Dodd & Richards, which is why it's so good. It is demolished in 1971.

The Savoy Garage is 400 South Olive/430 West Fourth, designed by Curlett & Beelman, erected in 1923, still standing, miraculously. Curlett & Beelman, titans of LA architecture, are also known for the 1926 May Company garage at 6th & Hill. And while this article states the oldest remaining parking garage in LA is Norenberg & Johnson's 1925 Auto Center Garage at 746 S Hope, that is incorrect. The oldest extant garage built as a free-standing garage is Curlett & Beelman's Savoy on Bunker Hill, y'all.

As long as we're on the subject—while researching these characters I came across this article on the Hotel Clark Garage. This may be more than you'd ever care to know about this garage, but hey, it's a lost Dodd & Richards. Also, insert obligatory scroll-warning here.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2825/3...ecfc717c_o.png

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3725/3...c44ab1de_o.png

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3929/3...32ce0d06_o.png


Here's the one that really grabbed me—I never thought I'd see an image taken atop the Clark Garage facing its rooftop carwash. There's the Fremont kittycorner across the street, the Rose Mansion behind it, the Zelda up at 4th & Grand, and across from the Zelda the little-photographed 355 S Grand, which in the early 1920s was the birthplace of the infamous Blackburn Cult.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/665/33...07666c28_o.png

(Oh, and the garage nearby at 343 S Grand which replaced the Brunson mansion in 1917? That was by John J Frauenfelder, who was an important concrete architect on early public mausolea, among other stuff.)

tovangar2 Mar 2, 2017 7:01 AM

Savoy Garage
 
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This is the oldest parking garage in LA? You should tell me this stuff Beaudry, when I innocently post "random" buildings!

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7722106)


It's lost its neon (and a couple of entrances) since '82:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/2y...A=w929-h516-no

HossC Mar 2, 2017 4:19 PM

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Here's a quick reminder of how the Savoy Auto Park looked in 1926.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6536757)

According to the caption, this is the "Subway terminal parking garage" in 1926. It's on the corner of Olive and 4th, so the lamp post on the right is outside the entrance of the Fremont Hotel. Just out of shot on the left you'd have found the Hotel Clark Garage, Hotel Antlers, and the end of Clay Street. The photographer must've been standing outside the Mutual Garage. As well as the large adverts for the Yellow Cab Company, I also noticed the name Calpet Gasoline, which reminded me of the service station on Wilshire.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...iveGarage1.jpg
USC Digital Library


tovangar2 Mar 2, 2017 6:42 PM

Savoy Garage
 
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Back in 1910, the SE corner of W 4th and Olive was residential (these structures were still there on the 1921 Baist):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/hg...g=w625-h471-no
baist 1910, plate 7

HossC Mar 2, 2017 7:42 PM

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This picture of the Hotel Sheldon is in the same post as the garage picture above. The Mumford (which I can't find on NLA) had already made way for the Savoy Auto Park.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6536757)

Zooming in, here's a better view of the Hotel Sheldon.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Callender2.jpg
Detail of picture in USC Digital Library


HossC Mar 2, 2017 8:00 PM

Here's another Student Union building from Julius Shulman. Compared to the one in Whittier, this one looks more bunker-like from this angle. It's "Job 5209: Pulliam and Matthews, California State Polytechnic University, Pomona, Student Union (Pomona, Calif.), 1975". This is just a selection from the set.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

I'm mixing color with black & white today. This end looks like it should be a loading dock, but I can only see small doors.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

Other than the arrow and the plant pot, the inside is all straight lines and right-angles. Even the clock appears to be a dodecagon.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

I'll finish with this glorious mix of '70s colors.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

California State Polytechnic University's campus is at 3801 W Temple Avenue, Pomona, but it took me a while to find the building above. The semi-circular towers from the second picture are gone, and the building has been extended. The few pictures I could find seem to show the new part at the left of the image below. The original part is roughly in the center.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original
GSV/Tracy Moore

tovangar2 Mar 2, 2017 9:14 PM

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"Tim" Matthews, as well as being an architect, became mayor of Pasadena.

He built his own home in Arroyo Seco:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9g...g=w747-h495-no
builderonline <--- more pix at the link

The firm continues as Pulliam, Matthews and Associates

ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2017 9:26 PM

re: Los Angeles Orphans Home (aka Hollygrove)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7728021)

That's Hollygrove, 815 North El Centro in Hollywood. Marilyn Monroe, then 9, was taken there in 1935.

Here's a bit of MM ephemera dated Dec. 6, 1935
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/RMycjS.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/WjKjMw.jpg
http://www.cursumperficio.net/CD/Hom/Orph/Orph7.jpg

The letter is addressed to Grace McKee ("Aunt Grace" to Marilyn). McKee was a friend and former room-mate of Norma Jean's mother.

The two women lived together at 1211 Hyperion Avenue (see below)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/DfZJiJ.jpg
http://www.cursumperficio.net/CD/Hom/LA/Hypr/Hypr1.jpg

Grace McKee was the person who picked Norma Jean up when she left the orphans home on June 7, 1937.
(I believe MM's mom was institutionalized at that point in time)

I'm not 100% sure who Mariyln lived with after her 'stint' at the orphans home.

Was it Grace McKee?

(Grace appears to have gotten married.........the Orphans Society letter is addressed to Grace Mc Kee-Goddard)

ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2017 9:31 PM

re: Los Angeles Orphans Home, post #2


Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2

The original buildings are long gone.

The buildings are gone :(, but I wonder if this fence still survives someplace on the Larchmont campus?

undated
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/KKv0v7.jpg
http://www.cursumperficio.net/CD/Hom/Orph/Orph4.jpg


Today, the perimeter fence at Larchmont is almost completely covered in plants and shrubbery. (but maybe this section is somewhere else)

the Hollygrove fence pic is from:
http://www.cursumperficio.net/FicheAO6.html
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ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2017 9:39 PM

I forgot to mention this.

"Norma Jeane's room at the Orphans Society overlooked the water tower of the RKO studios."

from: http://www.cursumperficio.net/FicheAO6.html





I wonder if this could be the RKO water tower?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/3qFMo0.jpg
detail / posted yesterday of a group of boys art the orphanage.


It would be interesting to see a vintage aerial of the Los Angelels Orphans Society/Larchmont Charter School. [hint: ;)]

tovangar2 Mar 2, 2017 9:56 PM

Hollygrove
 
There's a similar sign north of the main entrance on El Centro e_r, it's the address:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/IQ...=w1043-h551-no
gsv

Water tower:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Xg...g=w581-h609-no
google maps

Water tower and photo location:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qF...Q=w401-h496-no
google maps

The buildings across El Centro from Hollygrove. The one on the right may be newer, but the brick one on the left matches the historic photo:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Tb...g=w766-h363-no
gsv

Bill Counter at Los Angeles Theaters has the whole story on the 1910 El Centro Theater

oldstuff Mar 2, 2017 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7728795)
re: Los Angeles Orphans Home (aka Hollygrove)



Here's a bit of MM ephemera dated Dec. 6, 1935
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/RMycjS.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/WjKjMw.jpg
http://www.cursumperficio.net/CD/Hom/Orph/Orph7.jpg

The letter is addressed to Grace McKee ("Aunt Grace" to Marilyn). McKee was a friend and former room-mate of Norma Jean's mother.

The two women lived together at 1211 Hyperion Avenue (see below)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/DfZJiJ.jpg
http://www.cursumperficio.net/CD/Hom/LA/Hypr/Hypr1.jpg

Grace McKee was the person who picked Norma Jean up when she left the orphans home on June 7, 1937.
(I believe MM's mom was institutionalized at that point in time)

I'm not 100% sure who Mariyln lived with after her 'stint' at the orphans home.

Was it Grace McKee?

(Grace appears to have gotten married.........the Orphans Society letter is addressed to Grace Mc Kee-Goddard)

Norma Jean (Marilyn) appears with the Goddards in the 1940 census. She was 13 years old at the time. She is in the 7th grade and is listed as a ward of the family The family was Ervin and Grace Goddard. Ervin was a traveling salesman who sold vacuum cleaners according to the census. Also living there was a Margaret Kanaun, 79, who is listed as a lodger. They lived at 11336 Nebraska Avenue in Hollywood.

ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2017 10:25 PM

:previous: Hey, thanks oldstuff! That clears it up.

I felt kinda' bad ending my post without the pertinent information.

ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2017 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7728829)

The buildings across El Centro from Hollygrove. The one on the right is obviously newer, but the brick one on the left may match the historic photo:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Tb...g=w766-h363-no
gsv

:previous: It is the same building!! Good eye t2.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/DOSiy3.jpg




2011
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/00J2BO.jpg



and today, with exposed brick
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/Wrbz36.jpg

The 'mystery' cleaners building is to the right. (I think it's the same building in the vintage pic.....it's just been remodeled several times over)


One last look at the complete pic.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/mMwJkQ.jpg
flickr


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