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GaylordWilshire Dec 10, 2018 7:49 PM

My take on Elvis's cars...


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8403776)
Since you all did so well identifying the cars in the Hotel Cecil Parking Lot


I thought you might like to try your hand at identfying the vehicles parked at Elvis' rented home on Rocca Place.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/7HrqRu.jpg

'67-8-9 Eldorado; '71-ish Lincoln limo with its headlight doors open...or maybe a '67-8; '66-7 Toronado; '67 full-size Ford; '67-8 Imperial


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8403776)

2 '66-7 Buick intermediate wagons--same A body as the Olds variants, but different front ends and other sheet-metal differences (one is the glass-roof version, the other looks like the less-deluxe Special Deluxe version); two '64 Cadillac convertibles, maybe a dark third unless it's a '63; second from bottom is a '65 Pontiac hardtop, and, nearest, what looks like might be a '61 or '62 Caddy convertible.... And it looks like a '66 Caddy might be in the carport at left.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8403776)


'65 Chrysler wagon; '56 Ford Customline; an MGA produced (late '50s-early '60s); '65 Chevy Impala; '60 Cadillac hardtop

ethereal_reality Dec 11, 2018 1:03 AM

:previous: Your cat seems to think differently.



;)

ethereal_reality Dec 11, 2018 1:48 AM

cars cars cars
 
re: Rocca Place rental home.
I thought it was a different house than the one that's there now. So thanks for proving me WRONG Noir Noir (with the permit) and CBD.

I can't tell who's right or wrong about the cars. As most of you know, I'm really really bad at identifying makes of cars.

That said...I do know the bus is a Vistaliner.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/R9iYCG.jpg
I like to outline things.



The front matches this one.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/RbgeKr.jpg
mabroelvisworld

I spy Priscilla.







below: "Elvis' tour bus leaves the estate 1174 Hillcrest - Beverly Hills."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/Yfizi5.jpg
mabroelvisworld


Not Rocca Place...but 1174 Hillcrest? Was that another rental?

(I believe Elvis owned, at point in time, two houses on Perugia Way) but I could be wong.





A glimpse inside Elvis' Vistaliner.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/R9mwUO.jpg
mabroelvisworld

:eek: Holy Shit!







Here's one more....thankfully it's in black and white.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/rHK8um.jpg
mabroelvisworld

I'm not sure I'd sleep under that TV....especially on a bumpy road. It might come loose and...GOODBYE LEGS. :(


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BillinGlendaleCA Dec 11, 2018 2:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8404730)
re:
Not Rocca Place...but 1174 Hillcrest? Was that another rental?

(I believe Elvis owned, at point in time, two houses on Perugia Way) but I could be wong.

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The Beatles met Elvis at his house at 565 Perugia Way, so you're not wrong. Just checked the view from the elevator lobby in my dorm had when I was at UCLA, looked straight at that house.

Bristolian Dec 11, 2018 5:13 AM

:previous:
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8403776)
From the looks of this next pic, Elvis needed a parking attendant more than the Hotel Cecil.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/vka5c5.jpg
elvispresleypedia

This photo of The Beatles visiting Elvis in Beverly Hills was recently posted on a site dedicated to '63/'64 Cadillacs I sometimes visit when I'm not here.
https://i.imgur.com/KaruUpb.jpg?2http://6364cadillac.ning.com/forum/t...age=1#comments

The Black '63 Caddy convertible could be one and the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8403776)

What could be the same Caddy again and the house looks to be a match:
https://i.imgur.com/zduPtSu.jpg?1http://6364cadillac.ning.com/forum/t...age=1#comments

CityBoyDoug Dec 11, 2018 9:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 8403947)
So many cars to identify here so I'll get it started with some in this photo. The two white convertibles in the middle, one with the top up and one with it down are 1964 Cadillacs. I'm pretty sure the black on black convertible is a 1963 Caddy. The two door second from the bottom looks to be a 1966 Buick Riviera.

That looks like the iconic GMC SceniCruiser bus.....from the 1950s...but its a knockoff Felxible vehicle known as the Vistaliner.

ethereal_reality Dec 11, 2018 3:42 PM

We have seen a large number of photographs of the 1938 flood on NLA over the years.

This album of 23 snapshots has recently turned up on Ebay.

The seller only gives us a sampling of five. If anyone recognizes the location(s) let us know.


#1
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/G3KwWL.jpg
Ebay





#2
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/xchIJu.jpg
Ebay






#3
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/6ybfWg.jpg
Ebay






#4
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/JG62uK.jpg
Ebay







Best for last.

#5
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/mOxlBh.jpg
Ebay




Let's look at the last one a bit larger. (because it's pretty darn cool)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/DGC0Kg.jpg
Ebay


Does anyone know where Swift's Red Steer Fertilizer plant was located?

(obviously the byproduct of Swift's meat packing plants)
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GaylordWilshire Dec 11, 2018 3:56 PM

:previous:


Re photo #2:

Here's post 7288 from 2012....


Here it is today-- Garthwaite and W 43rd...

https://i.postimg.cc/4NdBjnfc/garthwaite43-bmp.jpg



and re photo #4-- Kelly Pipe at left was at 525 N Mission Rd...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/DGC0Kg.jpg


https://i.postimg.cc/2SPPGnfT/525mission2-bmp.jpg

HossC Dec 11, 2018 7:32 PM

:previous:

I think that the fertilizer plant is the large building at the center of this August 14, 1941 view, taken after the flood damage was repaired.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rtilizers1.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

The building is shown on the 1921 Baist map as Agricultural Chemical Works, which I assume got shortened to the A C W Fertilizers seen in e_r's picture. I can't find that company in the CDs, but Agricultural Chemical Works was originally listed at 905 Macy. Looking at Historic Aerials, the building survived into the '70s, and had quite possibly only just been demolished in the 1980 view.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8405070)

This album of 23 snapshots has recently turned up on Ebay.

The seller only gives us a sampling of five.

The seller included 3- or 4-up views of many of the other photos if you scroll the thumbnails. Most show damage along the river, although one includes a sign for Grand Central Air Terminal.

ethereal_reality Dec 12, 2018 1:00 AM

:previous: Thanks for your help GaylordWilshre and HossC!
I don't know how I missed those other pics Hoss.

Neat ol' Grand Central Air Terminal sign.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/25GQbQ.jpg

I remember a black and white photograph of a low flying plane going over this road.

Does anyone else remember that photo...or is it a figment of my imagination?

ethereal_reality Dec 12, 2018 1:12 AM

...another flood pic that I missed the first time around.


This snapshot reminded me of a couple gifs I had come across several months ago.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/bEp4gh.jpg

https://imageshack.com/a/img922/8431/DRoDfv.gifhttps://imageshack.com/a/img921/2231/yPUadP.gifgiphy


I believe the person dangling from the moving crane is Buster Keaton.

from the silent film 'Seven Chances'(?)

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ethereal_reality Dec 12, 2018 3:29 AM

mystery object.

This postcard of Willard's was first posted [on NLA] over 8 years ago. (it was before we had honed our sleuthing abilities. ;))

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/snK282.jpg

What, pray-tel, is the structure in the distance that sort of looks like a pyramid missing its top.



Let's take a closer look.

If I'm not mistaken, we are looking south...and a tiny bit west. Correction: "we're looking north...and a tiny bit east." per GW

HERE'S A CLOSER LOOK.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/048D1C.jpg

Any ideas folks?










Update:

While searching for past posts and info. on the Los Feliz Willard's I happened upon this 2nd postcard.that might be new to NLA.

LOOKING EAST
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/L0GRYp.jpg
Ebay


Amazingly, the Willard's building, later a Brown Derby, still stands on the southwest corner of Los Feliz and Hillhurst.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/jal4GF.jpg
GSV

FROM THE SAME ANGLE FOR COMPARISON
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/hPi75M.jpg

GaylordWilshire first pointed this out HERE. GW also included a photograph of Willard's when it was a Brown Derby.



p.s. Don't forget about the mystery structure!

:)

HossC Dec 12, 2018 7:29 PM

:previous:

I can't see the truncated pyramid, but maybe this July 18, 1928 view will help someone else track it down. I've arrowed Willard's on the corner of Pico and Beverwil. Another view from September 14, 1937 shows a few more houses.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AWillards1.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

Willard's is still listed at 9625 W Pico in the 1956 CD.

GaylordWilshire Dec 12, 2018 7:35 PM

:previous:


Well, ER, since this is the Pico/Beverwill Willard's, we're looking north...and a tiny bit east.... But I can't give you an answer on the Mayan pyramid

ethereal_reality Dec 12, 2018 9:12 PM

I got confused.

Noir_Noir Dec 12, 2018 9:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8405797)
mystery object.

This postcard of Willard's was first posted [on NLA] over 8 years ago. (it was before we had honed our sleuthing abilities. ;))

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/snK282.jpg

What, pray-tel, is the structure in the distance that sort of looks like a pyramid missing its top.



The white house to the left of Willard's in the picture is still there at 1153 Beverwil Drive.

https://i.imgur.com/MvSxoMd.jpg
GSV



Here's an aerial from 1937 with new builds to the right since HossC's 1928 aerial.

https://i.imgur.com/rhqHqr7.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu


These were built circa 1930 - 33. Perhaps the picture quality plus the skewed angle of these houses to the camera is giving the odd shape in the original picture. :shrug:

ethereal_reality Dec 12, 2018 10:12 PM

mystery gas station.


"Opening of Santa Claus display at station, Shell Oil Co., Southern California, 1930." (but it says 1929 on one of the giant books in the display)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/RMiB4B.jpg
USC DIGITAL ARCHIVES

If you look closely, along the left edge, you can see the name of the owners of the station.




https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/hk7eJO.jpg
DETAIL: Van Fleet & Durkee #176





I also spotted *pats self on back* ;) a clue in the far distance.

Drum roll please.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/8WHNZy.jpg
DETAIL



USC didn't list Van Fleet, Durkee or Belmont...but they did list a ton of other details.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/IhTaXL.jpg

also
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/arT75B.jpg

It looks like someone from Paramount designed the fantastic Christmas backdrop. (it's not really a backdrop...but you know what I mean)

I'm curious...what does [ilg] mean? (it's used numerous times in the 2nd paragraph)
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To see the other two photographs of the Christmas decorations go HERE.

ethereal_reality Dec 12, 2018 10:19 PM

OK, I'll go ahead and post this because it shows the 1929 book that I mentioned above. (so why did USC date the photographs 1930?) *shrugs*

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/eNWZrO.jpg
usc digital archives

It's next to the giant Santa's chair.





FREE BALLOONS!

Noir_Noir Dec 12, 2018 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8406623)
I'm curious...what does [ilg] mean? (it's used numerous times in the 2nd paragraph)


illegible

HossC Dec 13, 2018 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8406623)

mystery gas station.

"Opening of Santa Claus display at station, Shell Oil Co., Southern California, 1930." (but it says 1929 on one of the giant books in the display)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/RMiB4B.jpg
USC DIGITAL ARCHIVES

If you look closely, along the left edge, you can see the name of the owners of the station.

The Du Barry sign can be seen in the background, so I'm going to guess that we're looking at the Shell service station at 3325 Wilshire Boulevard (listed in the 1932 CD). That's the corner of Catalina.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8406631)

OK, I'll go ahead and post this because it shows the 1929 book that I mentioned above. (so why did USC date the photographs 1930?) *shrugs*

Dick Whittington's envelopes (also part of the photoset) give the date very clearly as 1930.

HossC Dec 13, 2018 12:59 AM

:previous:

Looking for more pictures of the Shell station, I found a set of four photos of the decorations being constructed. Here are two of them.

Christmas display at station on Wilshire Boulevard and South Catalina Street, Shell Oil Co., Los Angeles, CA, 1930

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Christmas1.jpg
USC Digital Library

CityBoyDoug Dec 13, 2018 9:01 AM

Dedicated Noirishers checking the Baist map books.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/d4b583ca...px5vo1_500.gif
gif circus

GaylordWilshire Dec 13, 2018 3:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8406623)
mystery gas station.


"Opening of Santa Claus display at station, Shell Oil Co., Southern California, 1930." (but it says 1929 on one of the giant books in the display)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/RMiB4B.jpg
USC DIGITAL ARCHIVES


What was there: Permits for the first Shell station buildings at the nec of Wilshire & Catalina were issued on Aug 1, 1930--more than six years after the Aronson house was cut up and moved to Fremont Place.... The full story is here.

https://i.postimg.cc/QMpx4thw/3325-MAIN4-FB.jpg


The building seen at right is the Post Building, built in 1925--you can just seen the Aronson lot at left, apparently bare and awaiting Shell... Read all about the Post Building here.

https://i.postimg.cc/Kz3P1t2w/3301-WB-Post-Bldg-bmp.jpg
LAPL

ethereal_reality Dec 13, 2018 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8406802)
The Du Barry sign can be seen in the background, so I'm going to guess that we're looking at the Shell service station at 3325 Wilshire Boulevard (listed in the 1932 CD).
That's the corner of Catalina.

Thanks for figuring out the correct location Hoss!

Who should break the news over at L.A. Relics?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/icG6Lj.jpg
#WRONG_ADDRESS

By the way, I didn't see the Du Barry sign. Good eye Hoss.



Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8406802)
Dick Whittington's envelopes (also part of the photoset) give the date very clearly as 1930.

Oh. You're right. So the giant book is from the previous Christmas.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/wqz6Ye.jpg

:shrug:

ethereal_reality Dec 13, 2018 10:38 PM

And from the other side of giant Santa's chair.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/Mo46Te.jpg

The only Mitzi I know is Mitzi Gaynor and Mitzi Rose Lee.








wink

Noir_Noir Dec 13, 2018 11:25 PM

:previous:


https://i.imgur.com/QlhxPRS.jpg
ecrater.com



The film is on archive.org -

Tom Sawyer - 1930

GaylordWilshire Dec 13, 2018 11:34 PM

:previous:


Never heard of her, but I guess she was the coming thing in 1929...but then came Shirley

https://i.postimg.cc/qqRj9CtS/mitzi1-bmp.jpg
LAT Oct 18, 1929

HossC Dec 14, 2018 2:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8406623)

"Opening of Santa Claus display at station, Shell Oil Co., Southern California, 1930." (but it says 1929 on one of the giant books in the display)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/RMiB4B.jpg
USC DIGITAL ARCHIVES

The Shell station is at the center of this aerial view which dates from about a year after the Christmas scene (this one is December 16, 1931). The corner of the Ambassador site is in the lower-left corner.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...lWilshire1.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8407937)

Who should break the news over at L.A. Relics?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/icG6Lj.jpg
#WRONG_ADDRESS

The main 1930 CD lists about 60 Van Fleet & Durkee service stations (with a couple more in the regional ones). For some reason I can't see a list in the 1931 CD, but the 1932 CD includes our station at 3325 Wilshire among around 80 Shell Service Inc stations. 129 W 2nd is the address of the Van Fleet-Durkee Inc offices (along with many other companies). In 1932, William C Van Fleet is listed as president of Shell Service Inc, with W T Durkee Jr (or possibly William P Durkee) as vice president.

ethereal_reality Dec 14, 2018 2:17 PM

:previous: Thanks for the additional information Hoss.

And thx for the info. on Mitzi Greene Noir Noir and GaylordWilshire.


Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8407122)
Dedicated Noirishers checking the Baist map books.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/d4b583ca...px5vo1_500.gif
gif circus

This gif reminded me of a particular scene in Chinatown.

The scene where Jack Nicholson rips pages out of a plat book ('coughing' each time to cover up the ripping sound).
The male librarian looks up...but doesn't realize what's going on right under his nose.

Remember that scene?

GaylordWilshire Dec 14, 2018 5:39 PM

:previous:


https://i.postimg.cc/W49svYyG/warnick-UT-bmp.jpg

Actor Allan Warnick in that scene...


Here he is later in The Two Jakes (from post 5896 from 2012)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-u...2520PM.bmp.jpg

GaylordWilshire Dec 14, 2018 6:03 PM

If anyone needs ideas for presents, these two new LA books are great:

https://i.postimg.cc/zDKTFdg2/LAbook.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/mDtWGzQh/librarybk1.jpg


The story of the library fire is noirish and the writing is great


A sample from Dear Los Angeles that I especially liked...

Evelyn Waugh, February 13, 1947 (right after, of course, the demise of E Short):

"The city is quarter-built, empty building lots everywhere and vast distances. Since the war they have succeeded in spoiling even the climate by inducing an artificial and noxious fog...."

AlvaroLegido Dec 14, 2018 6:19 PM

Chinatown
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8408614)
This gif reminded me of a particular scene in Chinatown.
The scene where Jack Nicholson rips pages out of a plat book ('coughing' each time to cover up the ripping sound).
The male librarian looks up...but doesn't realize what's going on right under his nose. Remember that scene?
_

And if I remember well, this scene takes place in our beloved Hall of Records...

CityBoyDoug Dec 14, 2018 8:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido (Post 8408999)
And if I remember well, this scene takes place in our beloved Hall of Records...

https://bamfstyle.files.wordpress.co...jkt5-deets.jpg
bamf

2 photos here from the Hall of Records scene......

BDiH Dec 14, 2018 8:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8408039)
:previous:


Never heard of her, but I guess she was the coming thing in 1929...but then came Shirley

https://i.postimg.cc/qqRj9CtS/mitzi1-bmp.jpg
LAT Oct 18, 1929

https://www.ebay.com/itm/202531148623

In her adult career, she was most famous for her role in Rodgers & Hart's Babes in Arms. She introduced My Funny Valentine and The Lady is a Tramp.

How soon we forget.

GaylordWilshire Dec 14, 2018 11:41 PM

:previous:


I'm not sure anyone who saw her on Broadway in 1937 is still alive, so her not being so well remembered is understandable. Plus, she died young. Seems it's up to NLA to revive her fame.


She was big. It's the pictures that got small. Big enough to have star on the Boulevard (6400 block):

https://i.postimg.cc/pL9v9Vkg/mitzistar-bmp.jpg



Wonder where this might have been taken...

https://i.postimg.cc/vBvwR4H6/mitzi1-bmp.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/Fzs5hh7C/mitzi2-bmp.jpg

ethereal_reality Dec 15, 2018 4:37 AM

Here's a photograph of the FBI office in Los Angeles. [1950s?]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/wgmMa5.jpg

I found the pic HERE (the address wasn't given)

Does anyone know where this field office was located?

My guess is..somewhere near LAX. (the building looks 'airporty' to me)

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GaylordWilshire Dec 15, 2018 12:35 PM

:previous:


The slant of the street made me doubt it being too near LAX, but I totally get your thinking that it looks--or looked--"airporty"...


It's at 1340 West 6th St...seems to have been also, at least until recent renovations, an office of the DEA...

https://i.postimg.cc/N0Lwnfmb/1340w6th-bmp.jpg


https://i.postimg.cc/kMvhxPt5/1340compl.jpg
LAT April 27, 1956

ethereal_reality Dec 16, 2018 4:44 AM

:previous: You found it! Thanks GW.
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re: FBI.


Here's J. Edgar Hoover in Hollywood, 1951. I'd love to know what's going through Hoover's mind at this very moment.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/SGiM8g.jpg
Hoover visits Dorothy Lamour and Cornell Wilde on the set of The Greatest Show on Earth, with Charlton Heston in the background, 1951

This article at abcnews says he 'dated' Dorothy Lamour. (despite the title of the article, "J. Edgar Hoover: Gay or Just A Man Who Has Sex With Men.") :shrug:

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J. Edgar with his companion Clyde Tolson.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...924/agYZX5.jpg
pinterest

ethereal_reality Dec 16, 2018 5:45 AM

mystery room.

Rare C1900 Los Angeles California Photo Trainmen In Railroad Or Transit Station

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/C7ndE6.jpg
EBAY


There are two photographer's stamps on the reverse.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/6ogi6o.jpg
EBAY

Tracy, Photographer
102 S. Spring St.
Los Angeles, Cal.,
Phone A 9623
Established 1902




A closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/wLIJVU.png
EBAY

I wonder if this photograph was taken in the Pacific Electric Building at 6th and Main?
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CityBoyDoug Dec 16, 2018 2:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8410421)
:previous: You found it! Thanks GW.
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re: FBI.


Here's J. Edgar Hoover in Hollywood, 1951. I'd love to know what's going through Hoover's mind at this very moment.



This article at abcnews says he 'dated' Dorothy Lamour. (despite the title of the article, "J. Edgar Hoover: Gay or Just A Man Who Has Sex With Men.") :shrug:

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J. Edgar with his companion Clyde Tolson.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...924/agYZX5.jpg
pinterest

...http://images.smh.com.au/2012/01/25/...over-420x0.jpg
google
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...98_468x313.jpg
getty image

After I read the detailed ABC article that ER linked.....there is only one conclusion that you can come to...unless you're brain dead.

Hoover and Tolson lived in the Closet Generation.

The two love-birds many photos........http://internetsecuritysoftware.info...-clyde-tolson/

GaylordWilshire Dec 16, 2018 5:31 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/QCDDX6B8/NLArepubclub1-bmp.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/P50V1Cd9/uscsilver-bmp.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/SRGhjW8W/NLArepubclub2-bmp.jpg
LA Herald July 4, 1897



Ran across the above newspaper image of a house once at 533 South Main St while looking for something else...fun to see the floor plan with it. USC has a photo on which the drawing appears to have been based. Looks to be a typical 1880s Italiante city residence. The Rowans of the real estate family owned it and rented it to the Silver Republicans*--then sold it in 1905.


Convenient poultry-supplies shopping right across the street:
https://i.postimg.cc/RCQr9LvF/leespoultry.jpg


In early 1910, police raided the premises looking for illegal gambling...then in 1911 Woodley's Optic Theatre replaced it. Turns out the estimable ER and HossC got a handle on the address four years ago in post 23688 AND in post 26613 the next year--with more photographic images of the house.


Later images of the theater's exterior and interior:

https://i.postimg.cc/43J7L549/woodleysext-bmp.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/9fJ4v7zN/woodleys1-bmp.jpg



*Had to refresh my memory about Silver Republicans (if I ever had a memory in the first place). Here's what Wikipedia has to say:

"The Silver Republican Party was a United States political party in the 1890s. It was so named because it split from the Republican Party over the issues of free silver (effectively, expansionary monetary policy) and bimetallism. The main Republican Party supported the gold standard. Silver Republican strength was concentrated in the Western states where mining, particularly silver mining, was an important industry. Silver Republicans were elected to the Congress from several Western states. In 1896, Silver Republicans supported Democratic presidential nominee William Jennings Bryan over William McKinley. After 1900, the Silver Republican Party was on the decline and most of its members rejoined the Republican Party."

HossC Dec 16, 2018 9:08 PM

I've just read an interesting story which will hopefully influence future similar situations in places like Los Angeles.

Last year, Ross Johnston bought the Richard Neutra-designed 1936 Twin Peaks house in San Francisco for $1.7m. This year he demolished the house and then applied for a permit to build his planned new home. Unfortunately for Mr Johnston, the City Planning Commission has just ruled that he must rebuild a replica of the Neutra house and include a street-side plaque explaining what happened.

The story can be found at various sources including the San Francisco Chronicle.

CityBoyDoug Dec 16, 2018 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8410783)
I've just read an interesting story which will hopefully influence future similar situations in places like Los Angeles.

Last year, Ross Johnston bought the Richard Neutra-designed 1936 Twin Peaks house in San Francisco for $1.7m. This year he demolished the house and then applied for a permit to build his planned new home. Unfortunately for Mr Johnston, the City Planning Commission has just ruled that he must rebuild a replica of the Neutra house and include a street-side plaque explaining what happened.

The story can be found at various sources including the San Francisco Chronicle.

The several remodels of the house transformed it into a piece of junk.

From the article..."...the historic integrity of the Neutra design had been erased over time — first in a 1968 fire and later in a series of remodels in the 1980s and 1990s. "

ethereal_reality Dec 17, 2018 1:40 PM

mystery bungalow.

from Photoplay 1930

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Pf2WaD.jpg
internet/archive

Movietone City eventually became 20th Century Fox Studios.



This aerial of Fox Movietone was taken a year after the Photograph article. [c.1931]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/DX1Ysw.jpg
Hollywood Photographs

hmmm...I think...I might see the bungalow but I'm only about 53.5% ;) sure that it's the right building.

Does anyone see John McCormack's bungalow? (I'm curious to see if it matches my candidate)
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f.y.i John McCormack was a famous Irish tenor.

This bit of information is also quite interesting.

"McCormack bought Runyon Canyon in Hollywood in 1930 from Carman Runyon.
McCormack saw and liked the estate while there filming Song o' My Heart (1930), an early all-talking, all-singing picture.
He used his salary for this movie to purchase the estate and built a mansion he called 'San Patrizio', after Saint Patrick.
McCormack and his wife lived in the mansion until they returned to England in 1938."
wiki

Hmmm....have we seen McCormack's mansion, 'San Patrizio', on NLA?

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ethereal_reality Dec 17, 2018 2:52 PM

Tis the season.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/Twv0ea.jpg
35mm negative found in old file

Farmers Insurance Group building [1937] on the southeast corner of Wilshire and Rimpau.

I had this building confused with the Golden State Mutual Life building by Paul Williams.



Since I like mysteries, can anyone tell me what we see down the street?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/R49OB3.jpg
detail

Not only the tower...but the bright sign with red in the middle distance.

Prove to the world how sleuthy we are! :)

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Ed Workman Dec 17, 2018 3:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8410445)
mystery room.




There are two photographer's stamps on the reverse.


Tracy, Photographer
102 S. Spring St.
Los Angeles, Cal.,
Phone A 9623
Established 1902




A closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/wLIJVU.png
EBAY

I wonder if this photograph was taken in the Pacific Electric Building at 6th and Main?
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I say no
The wood ceiling appears to be too old and flammable for 6th and main
The windows do not appear to be correct.
My guess
Los Angeles Pacific depot between 4th and 5th on Hill.

HossC Dec 17, 2018 6:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8411380)

Since I like mysteries, can anyone tell me what we see down the street?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/R49OB3.jpg
detail

Not only the tower...but the bright sign with red in the middle distance.

Prove to the world how sleuthy we are! :)

My guess for the tower would be the Wilshire United Methodist Church at 4350 Wilshire Boulevard.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Methodist1.jpg
GSV

The lights may be from the Ebell of Los Angeles/Wilshire Ebell Theatre, but there's only a small neon sign for the theater there today.

HossC Dec 17, 2018 7:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8411318)

mystery bungalow.

from Photoplay 1930

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Pf2WaD.jpg
internet/archive

Movietone City eventually became 20th Century Fox Studios.

This aerial of Fox Movietone was taken a year after the Photograph article. [c.1931]

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hmmm...I think...I might see the bungalow but I'm only about 53.5% ;) sure that it's the right building.

Does anyone see John McCormack's bungalow? (I'm curious to see if it matches my candidate)

Were you thinking of the house I've arrowed at the right?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...kBungalow1.jpg
Hollywood Photographs

The UCSB site has some 1927/28 aerial views before the buildings above were constructed, and some very detailed images from 1939. The detail view below is from one of the 1939 images. The center houses seem to match the McCormack's bungalow and its neighbor, but with the thatch replaced with a regular tiled roof.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...kBungalow2.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

Noir_Noir Dec 18, 2018 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8411318)

Hmmm....have we seen McCormack's mansion, 'San Patrizio', on NLA?

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Back in 2011 you posted this picture of San Patrizio/The Pines in reply to this post from 3940dxer -


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=5253



Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5485900)
3940dxer-
This is the ONLY photo I have of San Patrizio/The Pines. On the right through the trees there seems to be a enormous picture window.

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/134...hnmccormic.jpg
LAPL

http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=54420


Not sure if this one has been posted previousy - John Mccormack at San Patrizio in the 1930's.


https://i.imgur.com/hT19Uoi.jpg
hollywoodphotographs.com


Some more with his family in the grounds here

jdcamb Dec 18, 2018 2:19 AM

Best thread ever...


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