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CityBoyDoug Dec 6, 2018 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8401301)
I have a Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour dvd where she is a guest on one of the episodes and sings this song. It is done very stylistically. Part of the Smothers intro commented on how much the song was played on the radio that year. (Right now I don't recall if she also sings another song or appears in a comedy bit.)

If you don't know, the song (which included a lyric about throwing a mysterious "something", never named, off the "Tallahatchie Bridge", was made into a 1976 film starring Robbie Benson.

Wasn't that 'something' supposed to be a dead infant?

yul Dec 7, 2018 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatoVerde (Post 8400705)
Although the image is labeled as Main and Alameda, the Sun Tent Co. building face is seen off of Aliso St. The palms in the foreground are somewhere near Marschessault St. Post 3595 on page 180, posted by gsjansen, details the view from the opposite camera angle with a very large posted image. I think the site for the gas station is now in the middle of the 101.

I know we've discussed this image before on this forum. I wish there was an index of this site.

Hi all! I am new to posting on this thread but I have been browsing it for a couple of years. I've always wanted to jump in where I can be of value to the discussion. Regarding the USC Library Chinatown photo, it is indeed mislabled. The area shown is Chinatown but as GatoVerde states, it is the corner of Aliso and Alameda at top left with the notorious Ferguson Alley just out of view bottom right. The area at bottom of the photo is now LA Union Station. This picture shows the opposite view of the area as posted by MichaelRyerson on post #9273 on page 464. [IMG]http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelryerson/7992882394 as posted by /[/IMG]

Noir_Noir Dec 7, 2018 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8401174)
I think this could be where the Bank of America sign once stood. It's 5086 W Pico Boulevard, one block north of Venice. The address is listed as a branch of the Bank of Italy in the 1929 CD, and there are references to a "Pico-Redondo branch" of the Bank of America in the mid- to late-30s, but no definitive listings. I've so far failed to find an old photo of the building when it was a bank.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...coRedondo1.jpg
GSV


Here's part of a 1942 permit application that lists it as a bank and the owner as Bank Of America.


https://i.imgur.com/X28ttK9.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org

BDiH Dec 7, 2018 1:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatoVerde (Post 8401276)
The Signal station, and Sun Tent, are on Aliso ST, not Macy.

Thank you. Then, following comment is in error?

"The Signal Gas Station (right above the pair of palms) is now a Chevron station."

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 7, 2018 5:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDiH (Post 8401505)
Thank you. Then, following comment is in error?

"The Signal Gas Station (right above the pair of palms) is now a Chevron station."

No, that's about a block too far north on Alameda. Ferguson Alley is at the bottom right and you don't see Olvera Street in the photo. Here's pretty much a modern view:

https://i.postimg.cc/HLpyNg6F/Annota...-06-212722.jpgvia Google Maps

sadykadie2 Dec 7, 2018 5:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slauson Slim (Post 8401262)
For more on Bobbie Gentry, check out Episode 4 of the Cocaine and Rhinestones podcast. She had a variety television show in England!

C&R is a fascinating history of country music - and some of the episodes delve into the effect Los Angeles, Las Vegas and Bakersfield had on the development of the music. LA at one time was a hotbed of country.

Link:https://cocaineandrhinestones.com/bo...xit-stage-left

Love Bobby Gentry. Nothing better to embarrass the kids than picking them up from high school with some Bobby Gentry blasting from the stereo. :tup:She got married the same week I was born.

Bristolian Dec 7, 2018 6:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8400677)
Hope you had some time to head up to City Hall's observation deck, really nice view up there. AND IT'S FREE!

Bill, Fortunately, I did. An extra long lunch break allowed me to walk to Grand Central Market for lunch and have time to get back to city hall and up to the observation deck. The clear weather on Tuesday made for spectacular views. Well worth the effort.
https://i.imgur.com/g6QAWN3.jpg?1Bristolian Photo

Juror parking is provided at the Disney Concert Hall so it was pretty cool to park pretty much where South Bunker Hill Avenue used to be, although with much of the hill being leveled and parking as much as six stories underground, underneath would be more accurate.

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 7, 2018 6:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 8401721)
Bill, Fortunately, I did. An extra long lunch break allowed me to walk to Grand Central Market for lunch and have time to get back to city hall and up to the observation deck. The clear weather on Tuesday made for spectacular views. Well worth the effort.
https://i.imgur.com/g6QAWN3.jpg?1Bristolian Photo

Juror parking is provided at the Disney Concert Hall so it was pretty cool to park pretty much where South Bunker Hill Avenue used to be, although with much of the hill being leveled and parking as much as six stories underground, underneath would be more accurate.

You did get a pretty clear view, also a good shot of the final demise of the "erector set parking lot" at 1st and Grand.

Scott Charles Dec 7, 2018 8:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8401692)
No, that's about a block too far north on Alameda. Ferguson Alley is at the bottom right and you don't see Olvera Street in the photo. Here's pretty much a modern view:

https://i.postimg.cc/HLpyNg6F/Annota...-06-212722.jpgvia Google Maps

Thank you for the correction, BillinGlendaleCA - I have gone back and corrected my original post, and made it link to your post above.

ethereal_reality Dec 7, 2018 9:38 AM

Accident: Redondo Blvd. and Venice Blvd. [1935]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal reality

cropped a bit.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/PMcPaT.jpg

I visited the intersection and there is no sign of a bridge or a waterway. :shrug:



Redondo Blvd. and Venice Blvd. -site of the accident
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/E8XdYC.jpg
Check it out at GSV

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8400808)

This December 16, 1931 aerial clearly shows the bridge, but it looks like it was before the storm drain got its concrete bed.
The 1948 view at Historic Aerials shows the storm drain already hidden below the widened roadway.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ndoBridge1.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

That's a great aerial Hoss. The "storm drain" is Ballona Creek, right? It's amazing to see it uncover in the area shown above.


As a reminder; Ballona Creek is still open-air just a couple blocks to the west of the 1935 accident bridge.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/bsYV6G.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

It's where the creek/ditch veers to the south at Cochran Ave. (orange mark)


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/wdvCYL.jpg




The view at Cochran looking west
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/HKKUft.jpg
GSV

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ethereal_reality Dec 7, 2018 10:02 AM

another thing about Hoss' 1935 aerial.

I couldn't help but notice all the worn paths people had made while taking shortcuts through the numerous empty lots.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/pMSp5R.jpg

That is what I'm seeing, right? (foot paths)



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/teXM0O.jpg






A closer view of some other paths in the vicinity.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/GQqgRI.jpg

I'm going to be really embarrassed if these lines are something other than paths and shortcuts. :doh:





One more thing:

The shortcut that brought my attention to all the others is the path [shown below] near the accident bridge in the pic Hoss posted yesterday


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/Cc29zW.jpg




You can download the complete aerial at mil.library.ucsb.edu (thanks Hoss)

ethereal_reality Dec 7, 2018 10:03 AM

Wait! There's one more.


A car path around the erosion.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/CvWyKN.jpg

See it?






I was bored so I labeled everything.

odinthor Dec 7, 2018 5:19 PM

Hmmmmmm . . .

https://i.postimg.cc/Y9SgyJ0C/Circle.jpg
detail from pic in e_r's post a couple back

What are people circling around so vigorously? A tree? A well? An outhouse? :shrug:

SHERIFFPAUL Dec 7, 2018 7:12 PM

Interesting. Did she cause the accident? :haha:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bhzl6ohRl1...+Wreck+LOL.jpg
Courtesy of Free Republic

Handsome Stranger Dec 7, 2018 7:40 PM

If my Secret Santa is reading this, I wouldn't object at all if you happened to give me a copy of the soon-to-be-released fully revised 6th edition of An Architectural Guidebook to Los Angeles.

https://i.postimg.cc/HxJZMgD1/AAGTLA.jpg

Noirish Los Angeles needs a Secret Santa thingy.

GaylordWilshire Dec 7, 2018 11:21 PM

:previous:


:D :cool: :D :cool: :D


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robeach11 Dec 8, 2018 1:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHERIFFPAUL (Post 8402209)
Interesting. Did she cause the accident? :haha:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bhzl6ohRl1...+Wreck+LOL.jpg
Courtesy of Free Republic


LOL that's fantastic

ethereal_reality Dec 8, 2018 6:02 AM

Bobbie Gentry 1962
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Slauson Slim (Post 8401262)
For more on Bobbie Gentry, check out Episode 4 of the Cocaine and Rhinestones podcast. She had a variety television show in England!

C&R is a fascinating history of country music - and some of the episodes delve into the effect Los Angeles, Las Vegas and Bakersfield had on the development of the music. LA at one time was a hotbed of country.

Link:https://cocaineandrhinestones.com/bo...xit-stage-left

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8401301)
I have a Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour dvd where she is a guest on one of the episodes and sings this song. It is done very stylistically. Part of the Smothers intro commented on how much the song was played on the radio that year. (Right now I don't recall if she also sings another song or appears in a comedy bit.)

If you don't know, the song (which included a lyric about throwing a mysterious "something", never named, off the "Tallahatchie Bridge", was made into a 1976 film starring Robbie Benson.

I appreciate the follow-ups to the Bobbie Gentry post Slauson Slim...Martin Pal....and CBD.


From my first post on Bobbie Gentry
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethereal reality
Bobbie Gentry also worked as a fashion model, and on June 29, 1962, United Press International circulated a wire photo
of Gentry posing in a swimsuit alongside a second model..Cheryl Crane, daughter of Lana Turner.

I finally tracked down a photograph of that swim suit modeling job in June of 1962. [Bobbie Gentry is on the LEFT]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/J99fQf.jpg
333sound

"6/29/62 -HOLLYWOOD: Cheryl Crane [R], the daughter of actress Lana Turner, begins her first job as a fashion model
at a nightclub on Sunset Blvd. Cheryl is with models Diane Lewis and Bobbie Gentry before the opening of the Friday event cocktail fashion show."
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/vrZ0aB.jpg

Hmmmm....but what club on Sunset? Does the place look familiar to anyone?

"It’s a truly remarkable photo, not only because it is a rare bit of visual evidence of Gentry’s early years gigging in Los Angeles, but because of why it was taken. This photo wasn’t snapped because Bobbie Gentry looked good in a two-piece, though she certainly did. The only reason the photo exists is because of the smiling girl in the center. from 333sound
BUT THIS IS WRONG. THE WIRE INFO. SAYS CHERYL IS ON THE RIGHT
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________








I found a second pic.

BLURRY: from a tiny pic
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/deGEf1.jpg
bobbiegentry/org

"Bobbie Gentry modelling swimsuits in the early 60’s on Sunset Blvd with Lana Turner’s daughter Cheryl Crane (far right)" FROM bobbiegentry/org.uk
WTF. THIS WEBSITE ALSO SAYS THE GIRL ON THE RIGHT IS CHERYL CRANE.




OK, now I'm confused. [see below]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/O1tjIZ.jpg
pinterest[/url]

"Cheryl Crane- Lana Turner’s daughter c.1960’s" from pinterest
THIS MATCHES THE PRESS INTERNATIONAL TELE-DESCRIPTION AT THE TOP

Will the real Cheryl Crain please stab...lol...I was thinking about the stompanato incident)....please stand up.
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for nla newcomers:
Stompanato Incident

ethereal_reality Dec 8, 2018 6:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yul (Post 8401430)
Hi all! I am new to posting on this thread but I have been browsing it for a couple of years.

Welcome to the thread yul! ...from all the NLAers :)

ethereal_reality Dec 8, 2018 6:59 AM

A snapshot of the cheery parking lot attendant at the Hotel Cecil. [1950s]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/fJnvgq.jpg
Ebay [no longer listed]



I can't decide which one I like most....so I'll post them both.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/j2dYsm.jpg
with border

ScottyB Dec 8, 2018 8:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8402688)
A snapshot of the cheery parking lot attendant at the Hotel Cecil. [1950s]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/fJnvgq.jpg
Ebay [no longer listed]



I can't decide which one I like most....so I'll post them both.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/j2dYsm.jpg
with border




OK, I spy a '63 T-Bird, a '65 Corvair Corsa, a '68 Olds Cutlass (maybe); but what's the car we can see only the rear of at the far end of the row? And the tantalizing tail in the foreground? I know somebody knows.

GaylordWilshire Dec 8, 2018 1:50 PM

:previous:


That car at the end is a tough one...I see everything from pre-54 GM to Nash to who knows what. It appears tall...
and it looks like there's another car behind it.... Anyway, the Olds at center is a '65....

Bristolian Dec 8, 2018 4:56 PM

:previous:

I think the car at the rear could be a mid '60s Volvo 122 sedan. As for the car in the foreground, I can't even decide if that's the front or the rear that we see.

Earl Boebert Dec 8, 2018 6:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 8402812)
:previous:

I think the car at the rear could be a mid '60s Volvo 122 sedan. As for the car in the foreground, I can't even decide if that's the front or the rear that we see.

Agree.

Cheers,

Earl

GaylordWilshire Dec 8, 2018 7:26 PM

:previous:

I think that is correct, Bristolian--here's a shot of one, complete with wide whites...


https://i.postimg.cc/Dyvsr7sJ/volvo122.jpg

CityBoyDoug Dec 8, 2018 9:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8402688)
A snapshot of the cheery parking lot attendant at the Hotel Cecil. [1950s]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/fJnvgq.jpg
Ebay [no longer listed]



I can't decide which one I like most....so I'll post them both.

That hotel has a new name. I sure hope they have removed that contaminated rooftop water tank. The thought of drinking water at that hotel causes me a noirish cold sweat. :runaway:

riichkay Dec 9, 2018 12:11 AM

A few more Ralph Crane photos from the Life Magazine archives....


https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...psfsb3fkyh.jpg

Alfred Hitchcock and cast (including John Dall, Farley Granger and James Stewart) on the set of "Rope" at Warner Bros. studios, 1948.



https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...psadzncu7h.jpg

Hollywood Blvd. looking east, 1951.



https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...psodqsholx.jpg

1950's...these officers are exiting the parking structure at Parker Center.



A few photos that I omitted from the young-actors-downtown post, as they were dupes of the same location...

https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...ps4xn9p9xa.jpg

Beaudry identified this as the Gloria Cafe, 109 W. 3rd St.



https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...psasa0wyvd.jpg

Beaudry located this news stand at the base of Angels Flight.



https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...pszmqqswv4.jpg

A larger image of the corner BillinGlendale i.d.'d as 5th and San Julian.


And one more scene staged at Hopper's home, this one finds Wood in peril...

https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...pssgbfoakn.jpg



https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...psovnvs9ih.jpg

Drag racing in the riverbed, 1960.



https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...psvtqtfypa.jpg

United States Senator-to-be Edward M. Kennedy back-to-back with Janet Leigh at "Key Women for Kennedy in California" rally, held at the Leigh/Tony Curtis home in Beverly Hills, 1960....possible that Teddy is adding some digits to his signature on that campaign hat?



https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...ps9mj821rv.jpg

Black cat auditions for Roger Corman's "Tales of Terror" film, 1961...presumably these are the offices of American International Pictures.



https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...psslyxoc4l.jpg



https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...psb39d3u4e.jpg

Peter Lorre and Vincent Price check out the cats.



A party given in honor of Twiggy at a home in Beverly Hills....April 1967...

https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...ps2ygzplep.jpg



http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psim0octcy.jpg



https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...ps62equjxz.jpg



https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...psftl3akwa.jpg

Mr. and Mrs. Bono, Twiggy and her boyfriend/manager.

ethereal_reality Dec 9, 2018 4:15 AM

Was he going to jump?
 
.




"I saw Johnny on the roof yesterday."




V.A. [1951]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/e4mP2p.jpg
Ebay

I'd love to snoop around on the V.A. campus, but the google-mobile doesn't go there. (at least it didn't the last time I looked)


reverse
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/hjfaSo.jpg



Hmmm...so what's the difference between Brentwood and Wadsworth Hospitals?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/jhOjIP.jpg
detail

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/k68Uqt.jpg
detail
____________________________________________________________



The Diagnostic Center is an especially fine building.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/sYWbHu.jpg
detail

Does anyone know if it still looks this way? (or if it's still standing)



for that matter
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/jJb3tp.jpg

Is the theater still standing?


.

Noir_Noir Dec 9, 2018 5:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8402665)

I finally tracked down a photograph of that swim suit modeling job in June of 1962. [Bobbie Gentry is on the LEFT]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/J99fQf.jpg
333sound

"6/29/62 -HOLLYWOOD: Cheryl Crane [R], the daughter of actress Lana Turner, begins her first job as a fashion model
at a nightclub on Sunset Blvd. Cheryl is with models Diane Lewis and Bobbie Gentry before the opening of the Friday event cocktail fashion show."
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/vrZ0aB.jpg

Hmmmm....but what club on Sunset? Does the place look familiar to anyone?

"



In this snippet from Cheryl Crane's autobiography, she says the club was The Summit which was located at 6507 Sunset Blvd.


https://i.imgur.com/Ag3Tvvr.jpg
Google Books - Detour: A Hollywood Story



The Red Velvet nightclub opened at 6507 when The Summit closed. It can be seen here in this watermarked stock clip from 1965.


https://i.imgur.com/ELXjbic.jpg
criticalpast.com - video



6507 Sunset later housed the famous Club Lingerie, posted by HossC last April -

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=46540

CityBoyDoug Dec 9, 2018 8:24 AM

https://www.losangeles.va.gov/images...e800pxWide.jpg va.gov

I had surgery in building 500....spent a month there...cost to government was $75,000. Outcome....improved health, long life..

CityBoyDoug Dec 9, 2018 10:08 AM

[QUOTE=CityBoyDoug;8403248]

https://www.losangeles.va.gov/images...LA_480x330.jpg va.gov.

I've been there several times.....first class ...gold standard medical care.

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 9, 2018 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8403174)
.


for that matter
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/jJb3tp.jpg

Is this cool looking theater still standing?


.

Google Maps 3-D view is your friend, the theater is still there. Here's the Google Street View:
https://i.postimg.cc/0yysm8sN/Annota...-09-033509.jpgGSV

The back of the theater is on Wilshire.

ethereal_reality Dec 9, 2018 12:43 PM

:previous: Excellent! It's still standing. *wipes brow*

ethereal_reality Dec 9, 2018 2:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8403190)
In this snippet from Cheryl Crane's autobiography, she says the club was The Summit which was located at 6507 Sunset Blvd.

https://i.imgur.com/Ag3Tvvr.jpg
Google Books - Detour: A Hollywood Story

Thanks so much Noir Noir. I looked everywhere trying to figure out the name of the club. (except for Cheryl Crain's book)

CityBoyDoug Dec 9, 2018 3:21 PM

[QUOTE=CityBoyDoug;8403248]...

https://www.losangeles.va.gov/images...es-558x389.jpg va.gov

master plan to reshape the VA LA campus. Even now its a world-class medical center with a budget in the billions.

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 9, 2018 8:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8403174)
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Hmmm...so what's the difference between Brentwood and Wadsworth Hospitals?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/jhOjIP.jpg
detail

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/k68Uqt.jpg
detail
____________________________________________________________


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I'll post a portion of the 1956 aerial later, but the configuration of the buildings on it seem to indicate that the Wadsworth buildings were razed to build the West LA VA. The Bentwood buildings mostly remain.

I guess the difference between the two(other than still standing) is Brentwood is north of Wilshire and Wadsworth was south of Wilshire.

ethereal_reality Dec 9, 2018 11:12 PM

:previous: Thanks for answering my question BillinGlendale. I appreciate it.

If I remember correctly, there's also a hazardous waste dump nearby (detritus from the hospital and labs).

I'ii check Google-Earth to see if I can figure out where it is.

ethereal_reality Dec 9, 2018 11:29 PM

Here's how the V.A. Hospital looked when it was known as the Sawtelle Veterans Home.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/4kPU95.jpg
wiki

Most of the 1890s era buildings were demolished in the 1960s.

I'm pretty sure we have seen this amazing photograph once (or twice) before on NLA.

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 10, 2018 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8403568)
Here's how the V.A. Hospital looked when it was known as the Sawtelle Veterans Home.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/4kPU95.jpg
wiki

Most of the 1890s era buildings were demolished in the 1960s.

I'm pretty sure we have seen this amazing photograph once (or twice) before on NLA.

The chapel is still there, you can see it from Wilshire. I'm pretty sure the 1890 buildings were long gone before the 1960's, the current buildings show up on the 1956 aerial.

CityBoyDoug Dec 10, 2018 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8403568)
Here's how the V.A. Hospital looked when it was known as the Sawtelle Veterans Home.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/4kPU95.jpg
wiki

Most of the 1890s era buildings were demolished in the 1960s.

I'm pretty sure we have seen this amazing photograph once (or twice) before on NLA.

Many of the patients were Civil War veterans.

CityBoyDoug Dec 10, 2018 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8403559)
:previous: Thanks for answering my question BillinGlendale. I appreciate it.

If I remember correctly, there's also a hazardous waste dump nearby (detritus from the hospital and labs).

I'ii check Google-Earth to see if I can figure out where it is.

Many or most of those old buildings were torn down due to earthquake damage and obvious obsolescence. Most hospital buildings have a life-span of about 50 years.

odinthor Dec 10, 2018 2:26 AM

[QUOTE=CityBoyDoug;8403261]
Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8403248)

https://www.losangeles.va.gov/images...LA_480x330.jpg va.gov.

I've been there several times.....first class ...gold standard medical care.

The size of the tallest palm trees suggests that they are the original ones which we see in the early photo downthread (very slow growing!). Palm trees take to transplanting quite well, so they might well have been shifted to accommodate a new layout; but I'd bet they are the palms original to the site.

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 10, 2018 5:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8403586)
The chapel is still there, you can see it from Wilshire. I'm pretty sure the 1890 buildings were long gone before the 1960's, the current buildings show up on the 1956 aerial.

It appears that one of the buildings(besides the chapel, which is still there) in the ER's photo of the 1890 buildings at the VA is still there in the 1951 postcard.

Here's two clips from the 1951 postcard that I believe shows the same building(circled in blue):
https://i.postimg.cc/qqp1QgtY/Annota...-09-204430.jpgEbay

https://i.postimg.cc/k4TS351L/Annota...-09-204637.jpgEbay

It looks like all the 1890 buildings survived until the mid-30's, that's when changes started to take place(I think CBD's comment about earthquake damage is spot on). Here's the 1934 aerial, all of the 1890 buildings appear to be intact(I've circled the chapel in blue to assist in orientation):
https://i.postimg.cc/CKLDvDJb/Annota...-09-210124.jpgFrameFinder

Four years later in 1938, things have changed; the buildings that we see today at the VA have begun to be built and the 1890 building at the rear of ER's photo has been replaced.
https://i.postimg.cc/GpG0582h/Annota...0606-north.jpgFrameFinder

In 1947, after World War II, more of the 1890 building were razed and we are left with only the one building(in addition to the chapel and the library):

https://i.postimg.cc/brX9FrZ8/Annota...0324-north.jpgFrameFinder

Here's what it currently looks like:
https://i.postimg.cc/k4HpM7Dh/Annota...-09-214442.jpgGoogle Maps

ETA: I was focusing on the eastern side of the campus, it looks like two of the older buildings on the western side survived into the 1950's and are pictured on ER's postcard. They are not present in the current Google Map of the area.

ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2018 5:59 AM

Name the Cars
 
Since you all did so well identifying the cars in the Hotel Cecil Parking Lot


I thought you might like to try your hand at identfying the vehicles parked at Elvis' rented home on Rocca Place.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/7HrqRu.jpg
elvispresleypedia

This photo looks like it was taken by some fan hiding in the bushes.






From the looks of this next pic, Elvis needed a parking attendant more than the Hotel Cecil.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/vka5c5.jpg
elvispresleypedia

Again, fan in the bushes.





And finally.....(here's the last one)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/vMUNmo.jpg
elvispresleypedia

Isn't that a horse trailer?



some additional info:

"Feb. 3, 1966 - Elvis arrives in Los Angeles and settles into his new home at 10550 Rocca Place in Bel Air,
like the Bellagio house, is rented from Mrs. Reginald Owens."
from elvispresleypedia

Elvis also did some recording at this rental property. (mostly in 1966)

I can't tell if the current house at 10550 Rocca Place is the same house shown in the snapshots.
GSV

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CityBoyDoug Dec 10, 2018 6:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8403776)
Since you all did so well identifying the cars in the Hotel Cecil Parking Lot

Elvis also did some recording at this rental property. (mostly in 1966)

I can't tell if the current house at 10550 Rocca Place is the same house shown in the snapshots.
GSV

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The 1966 home is one story with a flat roof.

The 2018 GSV shows a 2 story house with a hipped roof. ref: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...aa/Rf-iso1.gif
Different houses....[?]

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 10, 2018 6:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8403785)
The 1966 home is one story with a flat roof.

The 2018 GSV shows a 2 story house with a hipped roof. ref: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...aa/Rf-iso1.gif
Different houses....[?]

It's LA, it just had some work done.

Noir_Noir Dec 10, 2018 10:03 AM

:previous:

"Just general alterations . . . . and what the hell, add a second story as well." (1978)


https://i.imgur.com/4QuiMQu.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org

CityBoyDoug Dec 10, 2018 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8403841)
:previous:

"Just general alterations . . . . and what the hell, add a second story as well." (1978)


https://i.imgur.com/4QuiMQu.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org

Thanks guys for the updates. I would call adding a second story, uber major alterations.
We can see by the Application that there was a conflict with the price. Betcha it cost more than the $300K.
Someone was maybe concerned with the new property tax:D:D

Bristolian Dec 10, 2018 3:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8403776)
Since you all did so well identifying the cars in the Hotel Cecil Parking Lot


I thought you might like to try your hand at identfying the vehicles parked at Elvis' rented home on Rocca Place.

From the looks of this next pic, Elvis needed a parking attendant more than the Hotel Cecil.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/vka5c5.jpg
elvispresleypedia

So many cars to identify here so I'll get it started with some in this photo. The two white convertibles in the middle, one with the top up and one with it down are 1964 Cadillacs. I'm pretty sure the black on black convertible is a 1963 Caddy. The two door second from the bottom looks to be a 1966 Buick Riviera. Correction courtesy of Gaylord Wilshire, that is a Pontiac

Earl Boebert Dec 10, 2018 3:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 8403947)
So many cars to identify here so I'll get it started with some in this photo. The two white convertibles in the middle, one with the top up and one with it down are 1964 Cadillacs. I'm pretty sure the black on black convertible is a 1963 Caddy. The two door second from the bottom looks to be a 1966 Buick Riviera.

The two station wagons are either Olds Vista Cruisers or Buick Sport Wagons (differed only in trim), probable 1964/65 models.

Cheers,

Earl


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