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ethereal_reality Dec 3, 2018 8:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8397754)
Sadly, AL, the Virginia Hotel was long gone by the time my eyes came into the world. Closed in 1932, razed in 1933. Originally, as I understand, it was to have a circular ballroom at the top; but a construction accident put an end to that plan.

Very interesting odinthor. I've never heard about the circular ballroom.

Snix Dec 3, 2018 9:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8394961)
At first, this was a mystery home...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/SyZIDv.jpg
1986 santa monica library

since then...I've found out that it's the old Kyte(?) House that once stood at the corner of Washington Blvd. and Ocean Avenue in Santa Monica.

In 1973 it was moved to 2640 Main Street, Santa Monica.



I believe the home is behind the trees in this GSV.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/yH14hX.jpg
GSV


I could only get a side-view of the house.

FROM MAIN STREET
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/PgKxdM.jpg


The home was built by wealthy dowager Mary Kyte in 1894.

I searched NLA for "Kyte" but nothing turned up. Has anyone heard of this woman before?

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The "Heritage Square" project in Santa Monica was conceived at the time of the city's centennial in 1975 (LAT 7/16/81) and involved moving two houses from Ocean Avenue to Main Street: This home and the adjacent "First Roy Jones" house. It was hugely controversial throughout the mid 1970s.
http://www.smconservancy.org/propert...y-jones-house/

While the Jones house was restored as a museum (now the California Heritage Museum), the other was to house a restaurant - originally a branch of the Chronicle from Pasadena - and as the original post pointed out, that one is not as well documented. The restaurant opened January 23, 1978 (LAT 2/9/78)

The Santa Monica Historic Resources Inventory says it was built in 1892 and doesn't give it a name:
https://www.smgov.net/uploadedFiles/...0Resources.pdf

Gerhard and Winter calls it the Trask house, attributes it to Hunt and Eggers, and dates it to 1903:
https://books.google.com/books?id=WW...monica&f=false

and as originally shown, the library photo calls it the Kyte house, with no additional info
http://digital.smpl.org/cdm/singleit.../id/2741/rec/1

I hope this leads to more facts being uncovered.

odinthor Dec 3, 2018 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8397815)
Very interesting odinthor. I've never heard about the circular ballroom.

Apparently, even as construction began, enthusiasm grew among the backers, and plans were repeatedly changed to suit new fancies. Alas, e_r, any published reference to this is eluding me at the moment; but my recollection is that the ballroom idea was for the circular ballroom to be built on the top floor, looking out over the beach and ocean, between the two main wings of the H-shaped building. What I read--quite some time ago--included a contemporary drawing of the plan . . . and I recall recoiling at its ugliness. It looked as if a Flying Saucer had docked on the building. The construction tragedy, which occurred at 9:45 a.m. on November 9, 1906, sobered up the whimsies of the backers, and the ballroom plan was discarded, especially I suppose since the location in the building of the ballroom would have been about where the construction collapse had taken place. The collapse is also why the name was changed from the originally-intended Bixby Hotel (or perhaps Hotel Bixby) to the Virginia Hotel (they didn't want name association with a tragedy).

ethereal_reality Dec 3, 2018 11:10 PM

:previous: Thanks odinthor.

We've no doubt covered this terrible tragedy before but it had somehow slipped my mind. (as most of you know by now, I have a really bad memory :() *sad*

Here's a photograph after the collapse.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/COAkDX.jpg
https://socalarchhistory.blogspot.com/2015/09/



the small type is too blurry to read-sorry
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/ywz1MC.jpg
https://socalarchhistory.blogspot.com/2015/09/

Green cement?

I believe they're referring to fresh cement, right?

Now we need to find the architectural plans that show the circular rooftop ballroom.

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GaylordWilshire Dec 4, 2018 12:51 AM

:previous:

I'm pretty much done slow-binging many seasons of Perry Mason...one observation is that the series never lost its early creakiness in terms of scripts and sets and oftentimes, acting. The clear exception to that was Raymond Burr--truly brilliant in this role, as focussed as an actor as the character is at law. Definitely enjoyable to hang with Della & Paul and dozens of actors who turn up over the years on every CBS series from that era. The cars are a pleasure, of course. My main enjoyment in watching the episodes again is that I am reminded of how much of a feel they gave me a a kid for a distant city when I was a kid, the domestic architecture in particular.

Here's a last mystery house... looks sort of familiar... Beverly Hills or Holmby maybe.... Anyone recognize it?


https://i.postimg.cc/SRN3wnmk/pmlatesthouse-bmp.jpg


Just for fun...a detail of a grandfather clock supposedly seen in the house above...


https://i.postimg.cc/VkxVR7Tq/pmclock-bmp.jpg


HossC's post from March 18, 2015 gives the story on the California Furniture Co: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=27047


http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rniaFurnCo.jpg

CityBoyDoug Dec 4, 2018 1:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8396811)
Mystery of the 'miniature church'.

Can anyone tell me what this little structure is that's sitting in the sand? The rounded tower makes it look like a tiny Russian Orthodox Church.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/P8BY3S.jpg
Old file

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Ponies, dogs and such on the beach makes things get rather squishy between your toes.:runaway:

ethereal_reality Dec 4, 2018 2:37 AM

We have discussed Nugent Chevrolet numerous times on NLA, but I believe this photograph is new to NLA.
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire
Nugent was selling Chevrolets at least by the late '20s at 627 S. La Brea (just down from Gillingham DeSoto), moving to 400 by 1934.

The pic shows the earliest location at 627 S. La Brea...which I don't believe we have seen before.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/LwoabS.jpg
ebay / This is an original photograph, not a reproduction.




A fountain pen was used to write the information on the photograph.
Let's take a closer look.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/evod4Y.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/5q2mav.jpg

GaylordWilshire posted a current photograph of 627 S. La Brea HERE










This old matchbook shows the later addresses. (428 & 435)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/th0K5p.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/FlZ4kb.jpg
ebay


HossC posted a stunning night-time view of 428 S. La Brea HERE






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ethereal_reality Dec 4, 2018 8:09 AM

I don't believe we have seen the Garfield Apartments on NLA.

The apartments were located in Alhambra. (possibly on Garfield Ave(?)


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/oYcxs1.jpg
ebay / sold

It would be interesting to see if that over-sized stone marker is still in place........................:previous:



Here's a closer look. (I'm not sure what to call it)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/EuQDYG.jpg

To say it's substantial would be an understatement.


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ProphetM Dec 4, 2018 8:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8397809)
Wow! Thank you ProphetM



Here's an image of the powder magazine...in what looks like..the early stage of deterioration. {1900s?)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/Ui0xgZ.jpg
ipmg


hmmmm.....note the single 'window'. In later pics there are two larger windows.

as it appears today,
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/nfGe3m.jpg

It makes me wonder if someone tried to convert it into a living quarters.





also.....too

The B & W pic. can't be showing this side. The door is in the wrong place.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/if9hU3.jpg

See how sleuthy I am.


;)

Maybe the B&W image is reversed.

ethereal_reality Dec 4, 2018 8:26 AM

And while I was in Alhambra looking for that unusual marker....I found another photo.

"Cabinet Photo ~ Alahambra CA Storefront Hall Clothing Co ~ Blue Blood Shoes"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/VhOBoO.jpg
Ebay

I don't believe I've ever heard of Blue Blood Shoes.

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ethereal_reality Dec 4, 2018 8:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 8398443)
Maybe the image is reversed.

If you go to GSV you'll see it isn't flipped ProphetM.

oops.
You meant the black n' white photograph. my bad.

HossC Dec 4, 2018 1:34 PM

:previous:

Although a lot of the detail is covered by plaster in the B&W image, the large, light-colored stones in the pillar on the right appear to correspond perfectly.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

Noir_Noir Dec 4, 2018 5:38 PM

:previous:

Some more on the powder magazine at Drum Barracks.


https://i.imgur.com/tizQKfA.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tOLhCAU.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/OOFzOWo.jpg

Wilmington - Google Books

ethereal_reality Dec 4, 2018 5:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8398504)

Although a lot of the detail is covered by plaster in the B&W image, the large, light-colored stones in the pillar on the right appear to correspond perfectly.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original


:previous:
"One more thing. The powder magazine still stands about four blocks away from the Drum Barracks. It is Los Angeles Historic-Cultural Monument No. 249.
If you’re at all interested in seeing it, I recommend you do it soon. It’s located on private property, and the owner is itchy to have it removed in order
to build on the site. It’s in pretty sad shape."


bigorangelandmarks

corriganville Dec 4, 2018 6:41 PM

[QUOTE=GaylordWilshire;8398126]:previous:

I'm pretty much done slow-binging many seasons of Perry Mason...one observation is that the series never lost its early creakiness in terms of scripts and sets and oftentimes, acting. The clear exception to that was Raymond Burr--truly brilliant in this role, as focussed as an actor as the character is at law. Definitely enjoyable to hang with Della & Paul and dozens of actors who turn up over the years on every CBS series from that era. The cars are a pleasure, of course. My main enjoyment in watching the episodes again is that I am reminded of how much of a feel they gave me a a kid for a distant city when I was a kid, the domestic architecture in particular.

Here's a last mystery house... looks sort of familiar... Beverly Hills or Holmby maybe.... Anyone recognize it?


https://i.postimg.cc/SRN3wnmk/pmlatesthouse-bmp.jpg


This was the George Lewis mansion, designed by architect Albert Farr, and was erected on 10 acres of land in Benedict Canyon, next door to the Thomas Ince estate (which was located at 1051 Benedict Canyon Drive in Beverly Hills). Unfortunately, the mansion was eventually torn down. It used to appear fairly regularly in the 1930s and 1940s films, such as the 1949 Columbia serial "Batman and Robin".

GaylordWilshire Dec 4, 2018 8:27 PM

:previous:


Thanks, corriganville-- I guess I should have recognize it, since I've posted about it myself after ER's first post...


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/wl4Cre.jpg

from post 33636, 2016



I think I posted about the house as it was used in Sabrina (1954)...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WSFp7zlOcs...LewisLAX22.JPG


Pic from The Country House, April 6, 2015

Ed Workman Dec 4, 2018 8:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8398003)
:previous: Thanks odinthor.



Green cement?

I believe they're referring to fresh cement, right?

Now we need to find the architectural plans that show the circular rooftop ballroom.

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Green concrete has not yet reached its design strength
[ceee-mint is just the glue that holds the aggregates together, unless one is talking about sidewalks and patio slabs]
If I could read it I'd be able, perhaps, to comment more.
Is that article from LA Herald, many issues which are available on the UCR website?
Historically , there have been several construction failures due to poor shoring, and that may be what is being referred to as 'support failure'
Concrete normally requires several days to achieve sufficient strength to support itself

HossC Dec 4, 2018 9:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8398442)

I don't believe we have seen the Garfield Apartments on NLA.

The apartments were located in Alhambra. (possibly on Garfield Ave(?)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/oYcxs1.jpg
ebay / sold

It would be interesting to see if that over-sized stone marker is still in place........................:previous:

The stone marker has gone, but the apartments are still there. They're now billed as the "Historic Garfield Inn, Established 1904". The number over the sign suggests that it's 341 N Garfield Avenue, but further searches have led nowhere.
BTW I found another copy of the postcard above on Pinterest (linked to an ebay sale in April, 2018) which suggests that it dates from 1918.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rfieldInn1.jpg
Across Los Angeles on Twitter

odinthor Dec 4, 2018 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Workman (Post 8398980)
Green concrete has not yet reached its design strength
[ceee-mint is just the glue that holds the aggregates together, unless one is talking about sidewalks and patio slabs]
If I could read it I'd be able, perhaps, to comment more.
Is that article from LA Herald, many issues which are available on the UCR website?
Historically , there have been several construction failures due to poor shoring, and that may be what is being referred to as 'support failure'
Concrete normally requires several days to achieve sufficient strength to support itself

The article is from the Los Angeles Times of November 10, 1906. Here is the major part of that article, easier to read, compacted by me, shorn of its two illustrations, and much edited (most of the final fifth is gone, as just milking the event). It is still so long that it takes two images for this article (all in this posting from Los Angeles Times via ProQuest via CSULB Library).

https://i.postimg.cc/VsSnzPmQ/Bixby1a.jpg

Second part of the same article (oops, I see that I repeated the last line of part one):

https://i.postimg.cc/ryvWmZwd/Bixby1b.jpg

And here's an edited, compacted version of an article about the Coroner's Jury report, published November 13, 1906:

https://i.postimg.cc/PrYD8bCS/Bixby2.jpg

GaylordWilshire Dec 4, 2018 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8399034)
The stone marker has gone, but the apartments are still there. They're now billed as the "Historic Garfield Inn, Established 1904". The number over the sign suggests that it's 341 N Garfield Avenue, but further searches have led nowhere.
BTW I found another copy of the postcard above on Pinterest (linked to an ebay sale in April, 2018) which suggests that it dates from 1918.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rfieldInn1.jpg
Across Los Angeles on Twitter



A little minor antique noir on the Garfield Aprtments (presuming that the "431" cited in the article is a typo...)


https://i.postimg.cc/Jzkgbrvp/garfield1-bmp.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/Dw99DJ1V/garfield0-bmp.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/MHH3Xq1b/garfield3-bmp.jpg

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 4, 2018 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8399159)
And here's an edited, compacted version of an article about the Coroner's Jury report, published November 13, 1906:

https://i.postimg.cc/PrYD8bCS/Bixby2.jpg

"Nobody Censured for Bixby Horror"; I know, I've got a Samsung cellphone.

ethereal_reality Dec 5, 2018 2:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8399222)
"Nobody Censured for Bixby Horror"; I know, I've got a Samsung cellphone.

Am I the only one who has no idea what bill is talking about?

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 5, 2018 4:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8399369)
Am I the only one who has no idea what bill is talking about?

Bixby is Samsung's version of Siri.

ethereal_reality Dec 5, 2018 5:33 AM

Bill Bixby?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...924/BGHydW.jpg





;)

ethereal_reality Dec 5, 2018 3:58 PM

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/Nl0hmO.jpg
ebay (found several months ago)

The woodwork at the peak of the roof.is quite interesting. This quaint home appears to have a touch of the Swiss (on top of Arts and Craft)


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/ykPnSn.jpg
for search purposes: 3962 Woodlawn Ave. Los Angeles, Cal.

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ethereal_reality Dec 5, 2018 4:19 PM

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/xKctEH.jpg
ourshanginglandscape

Edward Everett Horton posing for a fan on the east side of Vine Street. March 27, 1930 (looking north toward Hollywood Blvd.)




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SHERIFFPAUL Dec 5, 2018 6:39 PM

Edward Everett Horton's home
 
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hcR-Iq0Jt7...nch_home_1.jpgExterior front side view of the house and lawn of actor Edward Everett Horton on Amestoy Avenue in Encino. The estate consisted of 140 acres, which were being farmed on November 7, 1937. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--7IEvF8bjQ...nch_home_2.jpg

Photos from San Fernando Valley blog

SHERIFFPAUL Dec 5, 2018 6:40 PM

Edward Everett Horton......With the expansion of the San Fernando Valley in the late 50's and early 60s, the 101 Freeway expanded North right through the backyard of Mr. Horton's estate. Mr. Horton had no choice but to sell a portion of his ranch for the development of the 101 Freeway. As a consolation, the City of Los Angeles renamed the portion of Amestoy Avenue as Edward Everett Horton Lane near his main home.

GaylordWilshire Dec 5, 2018 6:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8399721)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/Nl0hmO.jpg
ebay (found several months ago)

The woodwork at the peak of the roof.is quite interesting. This quaint home appears to have a touch of the Swiss (on top of Arts and Craft)


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/ykPnSn.jpg
for search purposes: 3962 Woodlawn Ave. Los Angeles, Cal.


It's now 4060 Woodlawn.... (There were quite a few street-name and address changes in the area in the late 20s-30s or so....)

https://i.postimg.cc/59ZZysMD/4060woodlawn-bmp.jpg

Handsome Stranger Dec 5, 2018 8:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8399222)
"Nobody Censured for Bixby Horror"; I know, I've got a Samsung cellphone.

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

"Bixby" is on par with "Clippy" when it comes to irritatingly intrusive, unnecessary software horrors.

ethereal_reality Dec 5, 2018 9:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8399920)
It's now 4060 Woodlawn.... (There were quite a few street-name and address changes in the area in the late 20s-30s or so....)

https://i.postimg.cc/59ZZysMD/4060woodlawn-bmp.jpg

:previous: Thanks GW! I looked and wasn't able to find it.

hmmm..it not only lost the decorative wood under the eaves....it also lost the 2nd floor bay window. :(

ethereal_reality Dec 5, 2018 10:11 PM

from Mississippi to Los Angeles
 
Does anyone recognize where [on Hollywood Blvd] this photograph of Bobbie Gentry and Glen Campbell was taken? [c. 1968]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/qrsOWE.jpg
imgur

When I happened upon this photo I knew next to nothing about Bobbie Gentry. The more I learned...the more intrigued I became.

Here's some info:

Bobbie Gentry moved to Arcadia, California, at age 13 to live with her mother. Gentry graduated from Palm Valley School in 1960.
She chose her stage name from the 1952 film Ruby Gentry, about a heroine born into poverty but determined to make a success of her life.
She began performing at local country clubs, and encouraged by Bob Hope, she performed in a revue at Les Folies Bergeres nightclub of Las Vegas.

Gentry then moved to Los Angeles to enter UCLA as a philosophy major. She supported herself with clerical jobs, occasionally performing at nightclubs.
She later transferred to the Los Angeles Conservatory of Music to develop her composition and performing skills. She also worked as a fashion model,
and on June 29, 1962, United Press International circulated a wire photo of Gentry posing in a swimsuit alongside a second model..Cheryl Crane, daughter of Lana Turner. wiki

She later transferred to the Los Angeles Conservatory of Music to develop her composition and performing skills.
In 1967 (the turning point in Bobbie Gentry's life) her #1 hit 'Ode to Billie Joe" was released.


Here's Bobbie in a 1967 appearance on the Ed Sullivan Show. (filmed at a Vietnam era military hospital)

Video Link


A MYSTERY

To everyone's surprise Bobbie Gentry pretty much diasppeared in 1981.

"Bobbie Gentry's last known performance was on Christmas night 1978 on “The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson” and on a Bob Hope special in 1981.
Gentry made no public announcement of her retirement; instead, she simply disappeared, and the circumstances surrounding her disappearance
have grown into mythological proportions in the decades since."


Numerous websites, like the clarionledger, say she is living in Los Angeles. (others say she is living somewhere in the south)


If you're intrigued..here are two excellent articles.

> Rolling Stone

> Irish Times


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ethereal_reality Dec 5, 2018 10:43 PM

deleted. (I decided it was dumb)

HossC Dec 5, 2018 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8400219)

Does anyone recognize where [on Hollywood Blvd] this photograph of Bobbie Gentry and Glenn Campbell was taken? [c. 1968]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/qrsOWE.jpg
imgur

Nick's Place (bottom-right corner below) was on Vine Street, not far from the Capitol Tower. I think the star in the lower-left corner above is for Rod Cameron.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...icksPlace1.jpg
popculturefanboy.blogspot.com

Barstowboy Dec 5, 2018 11:57 PM

From Wikipedia, so take it for what it's worth:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobbie_Gentry

Personal life:

Gentry has been married three times. Her first marriage was to casino magnate Bill Harrah on December 18, 1969 (he was 58 and she was 25); they were granted a divorce on April 16, 1970, only five months later. She married a businessman named Thomas R. Toutant on August 17, 1976, and again was divorced on August 1, 1978. She married singer and comedian Jim Stafford on October 15, 1978; they divorced just short of one year later, after the birth of their son Tyler Gentry Stafford. She has not since remarried.[23][24] When her long-time producer Kelly Gordon fell ill with lung cancer, Gentry took him to her grounds and cared for him until he died in 1981.[25]
From 1968 until 1987, Gentry had partial ownership of the Phoenix Suns.
In a 2016 article, a Washington Post reporter indicated that she currently lives a private life in a gated community in suburban Memphis, about a two-hour drive from the site of the Tallahatchie River bridge that made her famous.[6]

6. a b Tucker, Neely (June 2, 2016). "Whatever happened to Bobbie Gentry? In search of country music's great vanished star". Washington Post. Retrieved 3 June 2016.

23. Weisbard, Eric. Listen Again: A Momentary History of Pop Music. New York: 2007.
24. Magazine in late 1978 in Las Vegas
25. Bobbie Gentry had the most gorgeous legs ever: On the record with Grammy-winning arranger Jimmie Haskell.

I probably did this wrong, so apologies in advance.

Bristolian Dec 6, 2018 1:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 4299752)
The old Hall of Records was indeed a nice building. Too bad it had to be demolished.

Here it is in its last days, with the Criminal Courts Bldg. being constructed right up against it in 1970:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics26/00032560.jpg

I recently finished serving jury duty and was reminded of this entry and photo from page one of the thread. This is the first time I have spent any amount of time downtown since learning so much about it right here. I couldn't resist trying to get a contemporary view. Sorry if it has been done before but I don't remember seeing any. It appears that city hall has retrofitted the hanging lights with LEDs.
https://i.imgur.com/lvxUBHC.jpg?1Bristolian Photo

ethereal_reality Dec 6, 2018 6:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snix (Post 8397900)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/SyZIDv.jpg

The "Heritage Square" project in Santa Monica was conceived at the time of the city's centennial in 1975 (LAT 7/16/81) and involved moving two houses from Ocean Avenue to Main Street: This home and the adjacent "First Roy Jones" house. It was hugely controversial throughout the mid 1970s.
http://www.smconservancy.org/propert...y-jones-house/

While the Jones house was restored as a museum (now the California Heritage Museum), the other was to house a restaurant - originally a branch of the Chronicle from Pasadena - and as the original post pointed out, that one is not as well documented. The restaurant opened January 23, 1978 (LAT 2/9/78)

The Santa Monica Historic Resources Inventory says it was built in 1892 and doesn't give it a name:
https://www.smgov.net/uploadedFiles/...0Resources.pdf

Gerhard and Winter calls it the Trask house, attributes it to Hunt and Eggers, and dates it to 1903:
https://books.google.com/books?id=WW...monica&f=false

and as originally shown, the library photo calls it the Kyte house, with no additional info
http://digital.smpl.org/cdm/singleit.../id/2741/rec/1

I hope this leads to more facts being uncovered.

:previous: Thanks for the links Snix. I haven't had time to look into them, but I plan to do so. (I spent today down in a Bobbie Gentry rabbit hole)

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BillinGlendaleCA Dec 6, 2018 6:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 8400445)
I recently finished serving jury duty and was reminded of this entry and photo from page one of the thread. This is the first time I have spent any amount of time downtown since learning so much about it right here. I couldn't resist trying to get a contemporary view. Sorry if it has been done before but I don't remember seeing any. It appears that city hall has retrofitted the hanging lights with LEDs.

Hope you had some time to head up to City Hall's observation deck, really nice view up there. AND IT'S FREE!

CityBoyDoug Dec 6, 2018 6:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8399739)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/xKctEH.jpg
ourshanginglandscape

Edward Everett Horton posing for a fan on the east side of Vine Street. March 27, 1930 (looking north toward Hollywood Blvd.)




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http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv...7d2oo2_400.gif gif circus

ethereal_reality Dec 6, 2018 6:57 AM

once more
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/qrsOWE.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8400273)

Nick's Place was on Vine Street, not far from the Capitol Tower. I think the star in the lower-left corner above is for Rod Cameron.

DETAIL of Hoss' pic.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/JIx03f.jpg

Well that didn't take long...thanks Hoss! (and thanks for the information BarstowBoy)

Since posting the Bobbie Gentry / Glen Campbell mystery photograph, I happened upon another image from the same photo shoot.

This one shows a little bit more of the surrounding area. (and a different pose) The place advertising "breakfast all hours" is Du-Par's on Vine.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/xs0ENl.jpg
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The Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud II was owned by Glen Campbell.

odinthor Dec 6, 2018 6:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8400679)

Not everyone realizes that Edward Everett Horton was in some late Silent films too, and really quite good (I've seen a couple)...but his voice fits him so perfectly that he's at his best when you can hear him too!

GatoVerde Dec 6, 2018 9:19 AM

Although the image is labeled as Main and Alameda, the Sun Tent Co. building face is seen off of Aliso St. The palms in the foreground are somewhere near Marschessault St. Post 3595 on page 180, posted by gsjansen, details the view from the opposite camera angle with a very large posted image. I think the site for the gas station is now in the middle of the 101.

I know we've discussed this image before on this forum. I wish there was an index of this site.

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Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8389358)
A couple of great photos


Facing south towards City Hall and the Civic Center from Chinatown at the corner of North Alameda Street and Main Street
Full-sized image at the USC Digital Library

https://i.imgur.com/MpiOffY.jpg

This is a great photo, sharp and clear and full of legible signs. You can see Saint Vibiana's Cathedral in the top right corner of this crop:

https://i.imgur.com/ywKGtKy.jpg

The Signal Gas Station (right above the pair of palms) is now a Chevron station.


ethereal_reality Dec 6, 2018 10:42 AM

This was just listed on ebay.

"1935 Vintage Photo car accident on bridge Redondo Blvd. Venice Blvd. Los Angeles"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/rgUwGs.jpg
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1935 Vintage Photo by ACME by one of the strange pranks fate often plays in traffic accidents, Violet Stratton miraculously escaped death
or serious injury when this car carried her through the guard rail of a bridge and headed toward the storm drain about 40 feet below,
at Redondo And Venice Boulevards in Los Angeles, California. Note how the debris-catching wire fence has arrested the fall of the car.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/gJSbxD.jpg



I bet that's a Bank of America sign in the distance.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/gRIS8H.jpg

(also note the wig-wag).





I visited the intersection and there is no sign of a bridge or a waterway. :shrug:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/E8XdYC.jpg

Check it out at GSV




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HossC Dec 6, 2018 2:57 PM

:previous:

This December 16, 1931 aerial clearly shows the bridge, but it looks like it was before the storm drain got its concrete bed. The 1948 view at Historic Aerials shows the storm drain already hidden below the widened roadway.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ndoBridge1.jpg
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Earl Boebert Dec 6, 2018 4:33 PM

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Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8400682)
Not everyone realizes that Edward Everett Horton was in some late Silent films too, and really quite good (I've seen a couple)...but his voice fits him so perfectly that he's at his best when you can hear him too!

His voice earned him the part of the narrator of Fractured Fairy Tales on the Bullwinkle Show (85 episodes). And then there was the (today horrifyingly un-PC) role of Roaring Chicken on F Troop:

https://img.sharetv.com/shows/charac...ng_chicken.jpg

https://img.sharetv.com/shows/charac...ng_chicken.jpg

Times have changed.

Earl

BDiH Dec 6, 2018 7:21 PM

If the Signal Gas Station is located on the north/west corner of Alameda and Macy, where is Olvera Street?

HossC Dec 6, 2018 8:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8400713)

"1935 Vintage Photo car accident on bridge Redondo Blvd. Venice Blvd. Los Angeles"

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I bet that's a Bank of America sign in the distance.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/gRIS8H.jpg

I think this could be where the Bank of America sign once stood. It's 5086 W Pico Boulevard, one block north of Venice. The address is listed as a branch of the Bank of Italy in the 1929 CD, and there are references to a "Pico-Redondo branch" of the Bank of America in the mid- to late-30s, but no definitive listings. I've so far failed to find an old photo of the building when it was a bank.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...coRedondo1.jpg
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Slauson Slim Dec 6, 2018 9:20 PM

For more on Bobbie Gentry, check out Episode 4 of the Cocaine and Rhinestones podcast. She had a variety television show in England!

C&R is a fascinating history of country music - and some of the episodes delve into the effect Los Angeles, Las Vegas and Bakersfield had on the development of the music. LA at one time was a hotbed of country.

Link:https://cocaineandrhinestones.com/bo...xit-stage-left

GatoVerde Dec 6, 2018 9:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BDiH (Post 8401118)
If the Signal Gas Station is located on the north/west corner of Alameda and Macy, where is Olvera Street?

The Signal station, and Sun Tent, are on Aliso ST, not Macy.

Martin Pal Dec 6, 2018 9:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8400219)
In 1967 (the turning point in Bobbie Gentry's life) her #1 hit 'Ode to Billie Joe" was released.
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I have a Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour dvd where she is a guest on one of the episodes and sings this song. It is done very stylistically. Part of the Smothers intro commented on how much the song was played on the radio that year. (Right now I don't recall if she also sings another song or appears in a comedy bit.)

If you don't know, the song (which included a lyric about throwing a mysterious "something", never named, off the "Tallahatchie Bridge", was made into a 1976 film starring Robbie Benson.


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