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ethereal_reality Oct 2, 2011 4:25 PM

While traveling around downtown via google street views this classic little building on 6th Street caught my eye.


http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/8...ingon6thst.jpg
google street views



below: This is the only vintage photograph of the Harten Building I could find.
In the photo it is in the shadow of the Edwards & Wildey Building (built 1925) at 6th & Grand.


http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/3...wardswilde.jpg
usc digital archive

Does anyone know the history of this little gem?

____

Handsome Stranger Oct 2, 2011 5:27 PM

Wow...I too am impressed with the Jeffries post, on several fronts! :tup: I agree with GaylordWilshire that Jeffries' physique is modern; his haircut appears quite modern too. I had to look carefully to make sure it was a vintage photo.

I'm also kinda impressed that someone was able to relocate the Jeffries barn more than 30 miles from Burbank to Buena Park. Although I haven't been to Knott's Berry Farm in years, I have vivid memories of the "miniatures" housed in that barn.

Knott's Berry Farm has always been a somewhat oddball amusement park. As kids we used to refer to it as Not Very Fun.

Metranite Oct 2, 2011 5:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5248563)
those folks over at the Los Angeles Public Library are at it again...........i know for sure, i would have remembered this aerial showing the Stuart K. Oliver house from above taken from a blimp!


navy blimp bombs downtown with war bond drive leaflets 1945

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5106/...24849484_b.jpg
Source: LAPL

That was the time. That was it. Those are very optimistic people.

sopas ej Oct 2, 2011 6:02 PM

Such great posts! The Jeffries Barn, the close up of the floor tiles of the demolished State Building, etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 5430679)
Knott's Berry Farm has always been a somewhat oddball amusement park. As kids we used to refer to it as Not Very Fun.

Interesting point of view. I grew up about a 15-minute drive from Knott's (and about 20 minutes from Disneyland). By the time I reached my teens in the 1980s, kids my age thought Disneyland was for babies and the "real" rides were at Knott's (I loved Magic Mountain myself, and still do). But back in the 80s, there was a dance club at Knott's that teens were allowed to go to called Studio K, which also increased Knott's' "hip" factor among kids my age group, and then of course there was Knott's Scary Farm during the Halloween season, which still goes on. Ahh, memories-- I first got felt up/felt someone up at Knott's Scary Farm when I was 15... When I was 16 or 17, my friend and I ended up in line with JM J. Bullock from "Too Close for Comfort" at some ride at Knott's Scary Farm. I thought it was so random!

GaylordWilshire Oct 2, 2011 7:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5430623)
While traveling around downtown via google street views this classic little building on 6th Street caught my eye. Does anyone know the history of this little gem?

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-O...5%252520PM.jpgGSV

It's a Parkinson design and is on the market for $3.7 million...Harten Jewelry still seems to be listed in directories at 614 W. 6th--it must have vacated the building only recently. There was a Harten Jewelry at 650 S. Hill (now the St. Vincent Jewelry Center) in 1987, presumably the same concern--it's not found in the LAPL's next oldest directory of 1973. You-are-here.com refers to the Speedhouse Cafe being in this location.... Here's a snippet of history from the L.A. Downtown News:

"The Romanesque edifice with intricate stone carvings is unlike its Sixth Street neighbors. But not necessarily for its façade, designed by John Parkinson, the co-architect of City Hall. It stands out, oddly, because it’s so short. Squeezed between the 13-story Milano Lofts and the mid-rise Library Court, the Harten Building may be the only historic structure in the Financial District with a roof (done in terra cotta tile) visible to pedestrians. According to a Los Angeles Times article announcing the structure’s groundbreaking on June 6, 1926, the owner, the Edwards and Wildey Company, commissioned a design that would allow the structure to one day grow to 12 stories. It never happened, perhaps because the Great Depression was right around the corner?"

Fab Fifties Fan Oct 2, 2011 8:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire;5430814It's a Parkinson design and is on the market for $3.7 million...Harten Jewelry still seems to be listed in directories at 614 W. 6th--it must have vacated the building only recently. There was a Harten Jewelry at 650 S. Hill (now the St. Vincent Jewelry Center) in 1987, presumably the same concern--it's not found in the LAPL's next oldest directory of 1973. You-are-here.com refers to the Speedhouse Cafe being in this location.... Here's a snippet of history from the [I
L.A. Downtown News:[/I]

"The Romanesque edifice with intricate stone carvings is unlike its Sixth Street neighbors. But not necessarily for its façade, designed by John Parkinson, the co-architect of City Hall. It stands out, oddly, because it’s so short. Squeezed between the 13-story Milano Lofts and the mid-rise Library Court, the Harten Building may be the only historic structure in the Financial District with a roof (done in terra cotta tile) visible to pedestrians. According to a Los Angeles Times article announcing the structure’s groundbreaking on June 6, 1926, the owner, the Edwards and Wildey Company, commissioned a design that would allow the structure to one day grow to 12 stories. It never happened, perhaps because the Great Depression was right around the corner?"

Looking in old city directories it appears that the building housed:

Howard Moorepark Art Goods in the 30s and 40s
Carr-Morris Clothiers in 50s and 60s
The Chartered Bank in the 70s

Quite a varied history for one grand little building.

~Jon Paul

ethereal_reality Oct 3, 2011 4:52 AM

Thanks for the information on the diminutive Harten Building GaylordWilshire and Jon Paul!
If we all chipped in......perhaps it could be our clubhouse. :)

________

GaylordWilshire Oct 3, 2011 12:47 PM

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-J...2520PM.bmp.jpgLAPL

ethereal_reality Oct 4, 2011 2:50 AM

Found on ebay:


http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/356...04shillstr.jpg





http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/3...04shillstr.jpg
ebay

ethereal_reality Oct 4, 2011 2:56 AM

Also found on ebay. A stereoscopic cabinet card dating from the 1880s.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/379/early1880sla.jpg
ebay



below: A magnified detail.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5374/...880slahuge.jpg
ebay

Everytime I look at this remarkable image I zero in on that clothesline.

_______

ethereal_reality Oct 4, 2011 9:05 PM

I take it this cute little girl is on the valley end of the Cahuenga Pass.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9...ood1954cha.jpg
Charles Phoenix

http://www.charlesphoenix.com/

GaylordWilshire Oct 4, 2011 10:52 PM

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-L...2520AM.bmp.jpgLAPL

Fab Fifties Fan Oct 4, 2011 11:04 PM

Question????
 
Can anyone here tell me what this building is at Grand and Olympic? There doesn't appear to be any signage on it, not even an address.

It is diagonally across Grand from the FIDM campus, and even though I have seen it numerous times, my curiosity was never piqued until today. I have previously noticed that it is a veritable fortress with barred entrances and a seemingly impenetrable border of concrete stanchions and impervious looking flower boxes surrounding it, at street level.

I was up at the campus yesterday and this morning and when I left today at about 1:00P.M., there was an army of police and other official looking vehicles surrounding the entire perimeter. No lights flashing or anything but it was pretty imposing anyway.

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/4...andolympic.jpg
Google Streetview

~Jon Paul

GaylordWilshire Oct 4, 2011 11:28 PM

:previous:

gs-- That's the Federal Reserve Bank, specifically the L.A. branch of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco

It's around the corner from the old building at Olive & Olympic, now lofts:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics47/00043162.jpgLAPL

Fab Fifties Fan Oct 5, 2011 12:45 AM

[QUOTE=GaylordWilshire;5433410]:previous:

gs-- That's the Federal Reserve Bank, specifically the L.A. branch of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco

It's around the corner from the old building at Olive & Olympic, now lofts:


Thanks GaylordWilshire! That explains a lot :cheers:

~Jon Paul

cleats Oct 5, 2011 1:37 AM

Simon's Drive-In Studio City
 
From Rick M again shots taken from wall of Industrial Metal Company Sun Valley showing Simon's Drive-In in Studio City

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6101/...3e271973_z.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6239/...cc443c00_z.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6098/...714fe307_z.jpg

ethereal_reality Oct 5, 2011 2:20 AM

:previous: Those aerials are great cleats! Thanks for posting them.
What is that hill visible in the first two photos? There is even a road on top.....very odd.
Perhaps it's an early landfill.

GaylordWilshire Oct 5, 2011 12:05 PM

:previous:

My first thought was that those shots "taken from wall of Industrial Metal Company Sun Valley" was that that must be some mighty tall wall.... but then I remembered mention of a photomural of some sort... anyway, that Simon's was at the sw corner of Ventura Blvd & Laurel Canyon. Ventura Place is the long side of the triangle at left. ER: As you can see, the street atop the possible landfill is Laurelwood Drive.


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-m...9%252520AM.jpg


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-c...1%252520AM.jpg
The site of Simon's


Both pics Google Street View

Fab Fifties Fan Oct 5, 2011 5:52 PM

Simon's Locations
 
Happily browsing through a good friend's huge Southern California ephemera collection, I found this:

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/4082/sbrochure.jpg

I would say it's from right around 1940.

~Jon Paul

GaylordWilshire Oct 5, 2011 6:25 PM

:previous:

FFF: So as of the printing of that great piece, there wasn't a Studio City location of Simon's.... I know the building in the photos four posts below is round, but have we ever determined if it actually was a Simon's? There were a lot of other drive-ins, of course, and Simon's can't be the only one with a round configuration....

Fab Fifties Fan Oct 5, 2011 9:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4427982)
below: Scrivner's Drive In. No address given.


http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/383...ersdrivein.jpg
usc digital archives

Good point GW! Maybe it was this place or one like it. etheral_reality posted this back in 8/09.

~Jon Paul

Handsome Stranger Oct 5, 2011 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fab Fifties Fan (Post 5434272)
Happily browsing through a good friend's huge Southern California ephemera collection, I found this

Wow...is that an actual menu from Simon's? If so, PLEASE tell me you'll be posting scans of the inside too! If I ever win the lottery I want to re-open the Wilshire and Fairfax location, and I'm eager to know exactly what items they served.

SierraMadre Oct 6, 2011 12:14 AM

Well, HS,
If this isn't too off-topic, I'll post the menu from Eatons.
It was at the corner of Colorado and Michillinda in Arcadia, across the street from Pasadena.
Eatons was typical of the diners of the 1940's...

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...Eatonsmenu.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...atonsmenu2.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...atonsmenu3.jpg

I own this menu but did not create it, design it.
But, I did eat there once....!

Fab Fifties Fan Oct 6, 2011 1:30 AM

Los Angeles - Where It's At
 
Here is an incredible 1960's Los Angeles tourism youtube video. So cool and love the Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass soundtrack!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUQ7s...layer_embedded

~Jon Paul

courtesy Vintage Los Angeles/Facebook

Fab Fifties Fan Oct 6, 2011 1:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 5434601)
Wow...is that an actual menu from Simon's? If so, PLEASE tell me you'll be posting scans of the inside too! If I ever win the lottery I want to re-open the Wilshire and Fairfax location, and I'm eager to know exactly what items they served.


Hey Handsome!

Sadly, it's not a menu and completely blank on the inside. My friend isn't sure what it was used for as it was obviously a cover for something that is no longer inside.

~Jon Paul

GaylordWilshire Oct 6, 2011 12:10 PM

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-A...2520AM.bmp.jpgLAPL

ethereal_reality Oct 6, 2011 4:06 PM

Barker Bros. under construction at 7th & Figueroa, 1925.



http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/7...ldingconst.jpg
ebay




http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/8...lding1925c.jpg
ebay


http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/432...lding1925d.jpg



http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/689...gconstruct.jpg
ebay


http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3...brosbldgc2.jpg



http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/987...oscomplete.jpg
ebay

ethereal_reality Oct 6, 2011 4:39 PM

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6...rosusc1005.jpg
usc digital archive

That is one VERY small luncheonette.....and I've never noticed the Signal Oil sign before.
The sheer size of the Barker Brothers Building makes it one of my favorites.

Fab Fifties Fan Oct 6, 2011 4:44 PM

Cool old Barker Brothers' ad for their soon to be former location but, seriously, did they really need to list all those addresses???

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7...brothersad.jpg

~Jon Paul

ethereal_reality Oct 6, 2011 4:59 PM

I just found this view of the plain backside of the Barker Bros. Building.

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/1...ckside1926.jpg
usc digital archive

GaylordWilshire Oct 6, 2011 5:19 PM

:previous:

Great Barker Bros shots, guys. For some reason seeing it reminds me of the big downtown building that was sectioned with its two ends moved together--or sectioned with a new piece added between the ends. I think we've covered it here before but I can't find it. Anyone know what I 'm talking about?

GaylordWilshire Oct 6, 2011 5:41 PM

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-w...2520AM.bmp.jpgLAPL

That's for you, e_r.
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5435536)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K...7%252520PM.jpgUSCDL
...and I've never noticed the Signal Oil sign before.


Fab Fifties Fan Oct 6, 2011 6:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5435591)
:previous:

Great Barker Bros shots, guys. For some reason seeing it reminds me of the big downtown building that was sectioned with its two ends moved together--or sectioned with a new piece added between the ends. I think we've covered it here before but I can't find it. Anyone know what I 'm talking about?

I do remember that GW. The subject was house/building moving and that building had something like a 10 ft slice removed from the middle and then the ends moved back together. Also as I remember, it was due to street widening?

~Jon Paul

Fab Fifties Fan Oct 6, 2011 10:32 PM

Found the post!!!
 
and it was a five foot section they removed....

[/QUOTE]OK, now I remember the story I read; it had to do with a building called the Commercial Exchange Building at 8th and Olive; this from the Larchmont Chronicle:

"In a 1925 newspaper story, Kress was said to have moved about 250 structures the previous year, earning his firm more than $1 million. The widening of Spring, Olive and Flower streets brought Kress plenty of work. He saved the 13-story Commercial Exchange Building at Eighth Street and Olive from demolition in 1935 by cutting a five-foot section from its middle and sliding the west half of the building toward the eastern half. The half he moved weighed 5,000 tons."

From the USC archive, the Commercial Exchange Building:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5...gcitbui059.jpg[/QUOTE]

~Jon Paul

fhammon Oct 7, 2011 3:48 AM

Bless you for this, gsjansen.
The loss of the Lugo House is a particular grievance of mine.
I have seen your collection but noticed that you withheld a particular photo here: The destruction of the wall. The building was originally made of adobe.
The debate existed even back then when the building's fate was being decided around if the original adobe structure was enhanced by the newer 3 story building.
Your photo clearly shows terracotta bricks.

I have the same interest in the old Bella Union Hotel. It's foundation was originally adobe as well but I have a problem with the idea of adding multistorys to a building on such a foundation.
Anybody?

BTW
The survival of the Lugo House was vigorously fought in the courts and also the forum of public opinion via the press, the Chinese community and street activists and Buddhist vigils shortly before it's destruction. Much money was donated and pledged...but not enough.
You can't fight City Hall.

Ideas about it's relocation were raised but nobody stepped up with the cash.
In the end Stirling got her way. To her it was an eyesore and who would want to look at the ass-end of it while exiting Union Station?
I get that.

I'm a little disappointed that the Chinese community and also the Latin community, couldn't find way to relocate it.
I chalk that up to differences between the races.

I'm calling for a replication of it. Anywhere in L.A.



Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5130242)
i know we are going back in time a bit, but, whilst rummaging around through the Library of Congress's Historic American Buildings site, i stumbled upon that white house shown in E_R's post about the Dragon's Den that used to reside at 516-522 1/2 North Los angeles Street.


La Casa De Don Vicente Lugo


1936 image

http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/habshaer/c...s/012479pv.jpg
Source: Library of Congress Historic American Buildings http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/habshaer/c...s/012479pv.jpg

Architectural Drawings

http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/habshaer/c...eet/00000a.gif

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5203/...1efe439c_b.jpg
Sources: Library of Congress Historic American Buildings http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/habshaer/c...eet/00000a.gif and http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/habshaer/c...eet/00001a.gif

1937 data sheet - note the condition of the building - "fairly well preserved" ....not bad for a then 102 year old structure

http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/habshaer/c...7/data/002.gif
Source: Library of Congress Historic American Buildings http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/habshaer/c...7/data/002.gif


1857 image of the house

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-1724A?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archives http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-1724A?v=hr

the house in 1873

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-2460?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archives http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-2460?v=hr

by 1890, the 2nd floor porch became partially enclosed

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-2847?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-2847?v=hr

In the 1890's the house became the home of Leeching Hung & Co

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00081/00081456.jpg
Source: LAPL http://jpg1.lapl.org/00081/00081456.jpg

in 1905 the Pekin Curio Store moved in

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00081/00081457.jpg
Source: LAPL http://jpg1.lapl.org/00081/00081457.jpg

the building in 1928. the building now houses the Canton Bazaar

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-36415?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archives http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-36415?v=hr

a 1947 view looking north east on los angeles street past Jerry's Joynt

http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/hb629007wt/FID5
Source: Calisphere http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/hb629007wt/FID5

In 1950 a plan was presented to the State Park Commission for the proposed renovation of the plaza district. The Lugo House was very much a part of the design proposal

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...T-PLA-004?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archives http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...T-PLA-004?v=hr

unfortunately, one year later.......................................

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...T-BUI-544?v=hr

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...168-021~1?v=hr

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...168-021~4?v=hr

Sources: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...168-021~4?v=hr, http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...168-021~1?v=hr and http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...T-BUI-544?v=hr

1952 image looking north west across the site of the Lugo House towards the intersection of Los Angeles Street and Sunset Boulevard on the North side of the Plaza

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...NXKCBG476Q.jpg
Source: California State Library http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...NXKCBG476Q.jpg

bingmaps aerial of the site today

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5043/...e8946033_b.jpg


fhammon Oct 7, 2011 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 4551246)
Below: The EMS. -no address-
Hmmm...intriguing...why The EMS and not.....say.... The ELMS?
Anyone know what EMS stand for?


http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9...illtheemsi.jpg

The address is 321 S. Olive Street.
It doesn't exits anymore of course.
I got the info from Brent Dickerson's (should be by now famous) "A visit to Old Los Angeles"
Scroll down a bit, about 40%, to find a colorized photo of this building.

Fab Fifties Fan Oct 7, 2011 5:04 PM

The EMS
 
Great posts fhammon!!! I have read and enjoyed Brent Dickerson's wonderful story many times. I remember hoping when he first mentioned The EMS that he might solve the mystery of the name....but no such luck.

My thought is that maybe it was built/owned by two investors with last names that started with the letter M, which in the dictionary is spelled em.

Who really knows? But it makes me feel all investigative and stuff to come up with a theory:koko:

~Jon Paul

Handsome Stranger Oct 7, 2011 9:11 PM

SierraMadre - thanks for sharing that Eaton's menu. Fascinating stuff! I wonder what the "Hangtown Fry" (simply terrific) consisted of? And those prices!

Thanks also to fhammon for the amazing Lugo House post. Don't think I'd heard of it before, and I genuinely appreciate learning about this lost piece of the city's history.

Fab Fifties Fan Oct 7, 2011 9:17 PM

Main Street
 
Great photo of the Arrow Theater where all seats were 10 cents for Spanish language films. This vantage point is looking up Main St at the back of the circa 1909 Higgins Building which is still extant at Second and Main. The building is now lofts and the basement is the home of a hugely popular night spot called The Edison. Appropriate name in that the building at one time housed the first So. Cal. Edison power plant.

I really like the Mobile Oil / Mobilgas sign!

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3...nsbuilding.jpg
photo credit Blog Los Angeles

The same view today and according to public records, the building far left, is the Arrow Theater building erected in 1902.

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3299/...eatertoday.jpg
Google streetview

~Jon Paul

Beaudry Oct 7, 2011 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fab Fifties Fan (Post 5436858)
Great posts fhammon!!! I have read and enjoyed Brent Dickerson's wonderful story many times. I remember hoping when he first mentioned The EMS that he might solve the mystery of the name....but no such luck.

My thought is that maybe it was built/owned by two investors with last names that started with the letter M, which in the dictionary is spelled em.

Who really knows? But it makes me feel all investigative and stuff to come up with a theory:koko:

~Jon Paul

Oh -- I figured that out some time ago but never updated the post I did about her years ago...the Ems was built by C. C. Emswiler in the second half of 1905. The architect was none other than Joseph Cather Newsom.

Charles Clayton Emswiler came to LA in the boom eighties and went into the apartment-house building game. He died in 1922, age 69, in the apartment house at 321 that bore his name!

Fab Fifties Fan Oct 7, 2011 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 5437222)
Oh -- I figured that out some time ago but never updated the post I did about her years ago...the Ems was built by C. C. Emswiler in the second half of 1905. The architect was none other than Joseph Cather Newsom.

Charles Clayton Emswiler came to LA in the boom eighties and went into the apartment-house building game. He died in 1922, age 69, in the apartment house at 321 that bore his name!


OK, so its a very good thing I became a design journalist and not an investigative journalist! Thanks Beaudry:D

~Jon Paul

Beaudry Oct 7, 2011 10:56 PM

I wanted to say thanks very much for all the appreciations after my Calif State Bldg post -- I had a blast doing it and everybody's kind words were like so much incredible lagniappe! I still have a bunch of cool photos and discoveries from that afternoon...to be posted soon.

In the meantime, here's a snapshot from 1971:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6050/...cc7cd14b_o.jpg

Looking from the Macy bridge over the 101 across the gasholders into dt.

Now of course you'd be on César Chávez, and the El Monte Busway would be on your right, and that disappearing overpass disappears:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6116/...cb20c9c3_o.jpg

SierraMadre Oct 7, 2011 11:38 PM

you're all amazing, such history, so many memories of growing up in the 50's...I'll never forget the smell of the Brew 102 brewery as we went by "the interchange"...geez...I'll bet nobody calls the intersection of the 101 and the Harbor Freeway the "Interchange" anymore.

sopas ej Oct 8, 2011 12:42 AM

:previous:

I never knew it was called "The Interchange." I've always referred to it as "The Four-level."

SierraMadre Oct 8, 2011 12:58 AM

good point, speaking of which, is there two "four levels"?
Isn't the interchange of the Pomona (60) and Long Beach (710) a four level? Any others?

sopas ej Oct 8, 2011 4:48 AM

:previous:
Names like "The Interchange" and "The 4-Level" are very telling; that interchange was the first 4-level freeway interchange in the world when it was built, so it being referred to with those names is evidence that it was considered a big deal and one of a kind back then.

Yes, the Pomona and Long Beach Fwy interchange is indeed a 4-level interchange, as well as the 57 and 10 interchange out in the Pomona area. The 57 and 10 interchange always seemed "beautiful" to me somehow, very swooping. I haven't been out that way in a long time now, but as a kid, when my family and I would go to Vegas via the 10 to the 15, we would pass that interchange, and it looked monumental to me somehow, I think because it seemed like it was out in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by nothing but vacant land. I wouldn't doubt that it's more developed around there now than it was back in the 1970s and 80s.

SierraMadre Oct 8, 2011 2:22 PM

I'm still astounded how high you are when traveling over them. Such is the case when I drive from the 10 west, then take the transition to the 405 south towards LAX. Thats gotta be up there about, what?...6-8 stories?

SierraMadre Oct 8, 2011 2:32 PM

I have always been fascinated by "then and now" photos depicting locations which have graphic visuals of what was and what is.
Now...first my apologies. These had to have been posted before. But just in case I'd like to make sure everyone has had a chance to see them (twice?) so...I know this is risky, but here goes....:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...%20now/01a.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...%20now/01b.jpg
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Fab Fifties Fan Oct 8, 2011 3:01 PM

Stunning
 
SierraMadre, That to me is one of the most amazing posts on this thread! I, for one, do not remember seeing those aerials before and can't quit staring at them. Simply fascinating!!!

I could go on and on but I truly want to get back to staring and comparing. Thank you so much for posting them :cheers:

~Jon Paul

ethereal_reality Oct 8, 2011 3:40 PM

Great post Sierra_Madre!

You can clearly see the Lugo House in this one.

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