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Wig-Wag Jul 29, 2015 3:59 AM

Del Mar Race Track specials
 
tovangar2, I'm glad you enjoyed "Because Mom Liked to Play the Ponies" but disappointed to hear of how Amtrak handled your trip. It will be of little consolation at this late date, but Amtrak’s race track specials are not high on the list of their crews. I have a friend who recently retired from Amtrak after a 37 year career. His last years were spent as a conductor on the Pacific Surfliners and he always tried, whenever possible, to avoid the specials to Del Mar and also events at Anaheim Stadium.

CityBoyDoug, sorry to hear that your trip was disappointing as well. There are possibly three contributing factors. The first “streamlined" San Diegan was delivered in 1938 and a second trainset in 1941. Each set could make two round trips a day. a third train, using heavy weight equipment from the discontinued Valley Flyer that ran from Oakland to Bakersfield allowed for five trains a day. Despite Santa Fe’s efforts to maintain first class service on all their passenger trains in the face of declining post-war passenger traffic, by the time of your trip the streamlined equipment probably getting a bit long in the tooth. If you per chance you rode the train with the Valley Flyer equipment, that consist was long past its prime and had been used to transport troops from LA to San Diego in WWII. Also, as we all know, everyone smoked in those days and it is virtually impossible to get the odor of smoke out of vehicles.

Great portrait of a good looking family!

Cheers,
Jack

Wig-Wag Jul 29, 2015 4:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7110395)
This wasn't the image I originally planned to use to celebrate 1500 pages of NLA, but when I saw this building with a prominent "1500" blade sign, I knew this was the one to modify :).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...A1500Pages.jpg
Original image from GSV

You can read more about the former Los Angeles Rubber Stamp Co building in post #12249 by GW.

Nice photo editing, HossC!

Cheers,
Jack

Noircitydame Jul 29, 2015 4:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7111181)
I bet those tall, skinny windows on the back of the St. George were once doors like the ones on the east side in the historic photo. I hope the back ones had a real fire escape, not the suicide balconies one sees on the east in the old photo:



Thx for all the pix. They were a real treat.

(I still wish the cornice had been replaced. It will be.........someday)

given their fire history, I hope so too.
I found I had this photo from about 1934 that shows the back of the building, with the fire escape.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k....%20George.jpg
source probably USC


I wonder if Higgins ever regretted going with the semi-fireproof plan rather than springing for the completely fireproof.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...of12-18-04.jpg 12-18-1904

CityBoyDoug Jul 29, 2015 6:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wig-Wag (Post 7111230)
CityBoyDoug, sorry to hear that your trip was disappointing as well. There are possibly three contributing factors. The first “streamlined" San Diegan was delivered in 1938 and a second trainset in 1941. Each set could make two round trips a day. a third train, using heavy weight equipment from the discontinued Valley Flyer that ran from Oakland to Bakersfield allowed for five trains a day. Despite Santa Fe’s efforts to maintain first class service on all their passenger trains in the face of declining post-war passenger traffic, by the time of your trip the streamlined equipment probably getting a bit long in the tooth. If you per chance you rode the train with the Valley Flyer equipment, that consist was long past its prime and had been used to transport troops from LA to San Diego in WWII. Also, as we all know, everyone smoked in those days and it is virtually impossible to get the odor of smoke out of vehicles.

Great portrait of a good looking family!

Cheers,
Jack

Thanks Jack for your astute report. The worst part of that old train to San Diego in 1954? was the Men's restroom. OMG, that was a trip into a nether world somewhere deep below Hades.....:rolleyes: "Long past its prime"...is putting it mildly!

But in 2014 I took the Surfliner to San Diego. The train was super clean and the trip was a pleasure. I went ''Business Class'' which was fun...sort of. Overall...I'd do it again.

Cheers, ....Doug

tovangar2 Jul 29, 2015 8:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7111255)

Wow, look at that, the Bisbee/St George, St Vibiana's and the Higgins, all in one shot. Thx

ethereal_reality Jul 29, 2015 2:58 PM

Two early views of Los Angeles Railway street-cars that I came across this morning on eBay.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/rEtRbr.jpg
currently on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Phot...3D252035231818


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/9tmFZn.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Phot...item3aae78704a

:previous: I wonder who the older gentleman is....their boss?

That looks like an old bed-spring on the front of the car ;) (I just noticed there's one on the back as well)



below: "W. S. Service" is written on the reverse of both photographs.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/YzmUVh.jpg
eBay

Does W.S. Service ring a bell to anyone...HenryHuntington?......Wig-Wag?

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ethereal_reality Jul 29, 2015 3:35 PM

A fun little souvenir pin.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/CBGLpT.jpg
eBay

ethereal_reality Jul 29, 2015 4:23 PM

Concession Stand, Los Angeles 1942.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...540/a6qjgL.jpg
eBay

so-cal-bear Jul 29, 2015 4:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7111002)
I visited the St. George not too long ago on one of the last times I was downtown. . . .

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/IMG_1182.jpg
the windows behind the building. It looks like a service stairwell but if so I couldn't see how to get to it from inside.

Wow! This photo is playing so many tricks with my mind. It really looks like an M. C. Escher painting. I friggin' don't know which way is up, the AC units seem to be mounted on the ceiling, the security camera is facing down as well as the ceiling lights inside the windows. :P

CityBoyDoug Jul 29, 2015 6:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7111723)
Concession Stand, Los Angeles 1942.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...540/a6qjgL.jpg
eBay

At one time Mission soda, in several flavors, was bottled all over the US. Its headquarters was in New Haven, CT. [ I believe that its no longer in production.]
They were made from 1929 to 1970.
Metal wall ad.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pswsmkluus.jpg
ebay

Mission Orange is seen in an earlier post of mine:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=22707

ethereal_reality Jul 29, 2015 6:54 PM

:previous: Thanks CityBoyDoug. The seller thought the sign was for "Orange Passion'.
-so I was looking everywhere for "Orange Passion".

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/H0E7tv.jpg

The seller also mentioned that the word "Cola" is visible on the man's hat.

ethereal_reality Jul 29, 2015 7:25 PM

Here's a strange image.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/JDxF5I.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/C-1920S-PHOT...item2ee41fe816

:previous: Chateau Art Studio L.A.


photographer's stamp on the reverse.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...910/S2LU38.jpg

Chateau Art Studios, 213 So. Broadway Los Angeles



The Chateau photography studio would have been on the third floor of this building.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/K8QuzA.jpg
gsv

:previous: If I remember correctly, this is an old building covered in a 'new' façade.


In fact, I think the vintage photo in the window shows the building before the renovation (the taller building on the left).

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/P1EvSq.jpg
detail / gsv



And there's another vintage photograph in a second window next door.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/5Imdvw.jpg
detail / gsv

As you can see, the building on the corner has been replaced by a taller building, and the building on the left now has a blade sign for Municipal Water & Power.


In fact, the building on the corner is still there as well, also with a 'new' façade.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...913/sNYq4E.jpg
gsv


If any of this is incorrect et me know. I'm kinda winging it here. ;)
I'm pretty sure we've covered these building in the past on NLA.

ethereal_reality Jul 29, 2015 8:41 PM

The eBay seller just placed two more photographs of the L.A. City Hall groundbreaking ceremony online.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...901/ITynup.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1927...item280443fab9

:previous: Look at those huge stones in the back of the truck on the right.



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...633/OHYu97.jpg
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0167...7i13312!8i6656



As a reminder, here's the photograph I posted yesterday.


Martin Pal Jul 29, 2015 9:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 7111017)
1,500? This is page 1,200.

The default setting is 20 posts per page, so 1500.
You must have your setting on 25 posts per page, so 1200.
I like to have mine on 10 posts per page, so I'm up to 3000!

Martin Pal Jul 29, 2015 9:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7111226)
Thanks! I'm going with chair pads on those things.

Seems like a good suggestion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7111226)
Having just told you a few pages ago I didn't think my grandfather ever went to the USO when he was in town, I must say that sitting sailor does look a lot like him. I had to do a double take there at first.

having grown a mustache to try to look older (but still 17), 1945:
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...obelle/001.jpg http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...%20cropped.jpg

That IS a good resemblance! In the service at 17, I can't imagine.
I hope he was able to keep that smile and disposition later on!

USS Marias in 1945:

Commisioned by the Navy in 1944, so it was a new ship.

USS Marias (AO-57) was a Cimarron-class fleet oiler. She served her country primarily in the Pacific Ocean Theatre of Operations, and provided petroleum products where needed to combat ships. For performing this dangerous task, she was awarded eight battle stars during World War II.

After being in Philippine waters for 2 1/2 months, Marias next fueled the ships of the U.S. 5th Fleet as they bombarded Iwo Jima and conducted raids on the Japanese homeland. On February 24, 1945, five days after the landings at Iwo Jima, the tanker returned to Ulithi to prepare for the Okinawa campaign. She arrived at the fueling area off Okinawa March 16th, 1945, for the pre-invasion air and sea bombardment. For the next three months she serviced the ships engaged in the bitterly fought operation making fast runs to Ulithi for replenishment.

On July 3rd, 1945, the veteran tanker departed Ulithi for her last wartime operation. Nine days later she took up station in the fueling area east of Honshū fueling the fleet as it struck at the enemy's home islands delivering the final blows of the war. Following the signing of the surrender terms, Marias entered Tokyo Bay, remaining there, with the exception of a voyage to Ulithi for fuel, until departing for the United States on October 27, 1945. Marias arrived in San Pedro, California, November 10, 1945, underwent yard overhaul and departed again for the western Pacific, February 5, 1946.

Martin Pal Jul 29, 2015 9:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7108008)

May 1939.

"Main arteries leading to Pasadena, Calif., are shown choked with thousands of cars, as an estimated 1,500,000 persons make their way to Pasadena, to attend annual Tournament of Roses, the Rose Bowl Football Classic, or a meeting at Santa Anita Race Track, nearby. This air view was from a T.W.A. Skyliner, from which Chief of Police C.H. Kelley of Pasadena, by means of a short wave radio, routed the heavy traffic to reduce congestion to a minimum."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...909/Uukmu8.jpg
eBay
___

It just occurred to me...with traffic like this I guess these people sure needed to start out to the Rose Parade quite early if this was May of 1939! :shrug:
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FYI:

1939 Tournament of Roses Parade Trivia

--The Rose Parade celebrates its 50th Anniversary this year.

--The Grand Marshal of the Rose Parade is Shirley Temple,
the youngest Grand Marshal to date.

(Not to date, I mean...to now, until the present, I mean...you know what I mean...) :haha:

--Richard and Pat Nixon enjoy their first date at the Duke vs. USC Rose Bowl Game. USC beats Duke, 7-3, with a famous come-from-behind touchdown drive as time runs out.

--The first telecast of a special event from the Tournament of Roses took place on station W6XAO of Los Angeles, with commentator Don Lee describing the evening preparations of the Royal Court.

--The parade and bowl game were held on January 2, 1939, upholding the "No Sunday" rule and tradition.

http://www.tournamentofroses.com/history/timeline

I saw a documentary about the history of the Rose Parade and one of the floats they had in 1939 was an art deco streamlined locomotive. I wanted to post a photo of that for you train enthusiasts, but the Tournament of Roses photo site is down for repairs and I couldn't locate it anywhere else. I did find this photo of a 1940 float entry, though.

http://cdm16237.contentdm.oclc.org/u...XT=&DMROTATE=0Pasdaena Public Library

Caption: 1940 Rose Parade -"Modern Transportation" was the entry of the
Brotherhood of Railway Clerks which won the theme prize. Special permission
was granted for the float to exceed the 40 ft. length limitation. The crew in
front of the locomotive and tender represents the six railroads participating.
The queen is Dorothy Mulligan the other five are unnamed.

ethereal_reality Jul 29, 2015 11:12 PM

Here's a rare color photograph of the interior of Ciro's. (interesting color scheme on the wallpaper) -note the staples.

Ava Gardner and Howard Duff.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/fLR8Ev.jpg
http://davelandweb.com/celebs/images...Duff_Ciros.jpg

tovangar2 Jul 29, 2015 11:21 PM

Thank you e_r. I've had a lot of fun comparing your ebay pix (and the LAPL ones) with the 1921 Baist map. There's not many pix of the buildings of New High and old Spring through there, so it's great to get an inkling of those vanished streets (too bad I'm not better at it, no one can get turned around like I can)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i...35651%2BPM.jpg
historicmapworks/baist, 1921, plate No.3



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Lwize Jul 30, 2015 1:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7112198)
The default setting is 20 posts per page, so 1500.
You must have your setting on 25 posts per page, so 1200.
I like to have mine on 10 posts per page, so I'm up to 3000!

I don't do anything by default... ;)

Krell58 Jul 30, 2015 1:54 AM

I get on here yesterday morning, (I'm never on in the mornings), and I miss
the 1500 page turn-over by two posts.

Congrats, E_R on 1500 pages!!

Tourmaline Jul 30, 2015 2:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 4992900)

http://www.you-are-here.com/building/professional.jpgyou-are-here
Wilshire Professional Building, 3825 Wilshire




A similar view, circa 1932. http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../47656/rec/161



http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0









http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0






Manhattan Place
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0



"Brown Derby? Turn left!"

Before autonomous cars. some used backup operators on the running board to make turn signals and offer directions.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0



Derby sign
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0





Wilshire Methodist and E Clem Wilson in the background?
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ood&DMROTATE=0






ethereal_reality Jul 30, 2015 2:25 AM

Glad you enjoyed the City Hall groundbreaking photographs t2.
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Grace Kelly biking into the east gate of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/fJOMGa.jpg
Hollywood-Kodachrome.Skyrocket.blogspot

:previous: That's the art deco Irving Thalberg Building in the background (just outside the east gate of MGM*)






The Thalberg Building in 1942 (architect Claude Beelman 1938-39)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/SAR6mV.jpg
http://www.thestudiotour.com/sonypictures/buildings.php

* Sony Studios has moved the east gate to Madison Avenue to encompass the Thalberg Building.

Wig-Wag Jul 30, 2015 3:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7112261)

I saw a documentary about the history of the Rose Parade and one of the floats they had in 1939 was an art deco streamlined locomotive. I wanted to post a photo of that for you train enthusiasts, but the Tournament of Roses photo site is down for repairs and I couldn't locate it anywhere else. I did find this photo of a 1940 float entry, though.

http://cdm16237.contentdm.oclc.org/u...XT=&DMROTATE=0Pasdaena Public Library

Caption: 1940 Rose Parade -"Modern Transportation" was the entry of the
Brotherhood of Railway Clerks which won the theme prize. Special permission
was granted for the float to exceed the 40 ft. length limitation. The crew in
front of the locomotive and tender represents the six railroads participating.
The queen is Dorothy Mulligan the other five are unnamed.

Thanks, Martin Pal! The locomotive float in your 1940 photo above depicts one of the early Southern Pacific "Golden State" GS-2/GS-3 passenger engines used on the newly streamlined Coast Daylight. These are distinguished by a single headlight in the nose. Later classes had two headlights in the nose.

An interesting tidbit. These locomotives were equally at home hauling passengers or freight. During WWII the U.S government severely restricted the building of new passenger locomotives. So, when SP placed orders with Lima Locomotive Works, of Lima, Ohio for these locomotives during the years 1942 thru 1943 the GS designation was changed to indicate "General Service".

Cheers,
Jack

Wig-Wag Jul 30, 2015 4:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7111573)
Two early views of Los Angeles Railway street-cars that I came across this morning on eBay.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/rEtRbr.jpg
currently on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Phot...3D252035231818


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/9tmFZn.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Phot...item3aae78704a

:previous: I wonder who the older gentleman is....their boss?

That looks like an old bed-spring on the front of the car ;) (I just noticed there's one on the back as well)



below: "W. S. Service" is written on the reverse of both photographs.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/YzmUVh.jpg
eBay

Does W.S. Service ring a bell to anyone...HenryHuntington?......Wig-Wag?

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Nice Find, ER!

I am going to go out on a limb here and suggest Washington Street Service. Note that in your top photo both the front and side roof mounted destination boards have been blurred out.

Post cards of individual streetcars from this early period of Los Angeles Railway history are few and far between and were probably taken as LARY promotional pieces. Its to bad there are no dates on the the cards as that might lend credence to the information below.

My comments here stem from a paragraph in Interurbans Special No. 11, Los Angeles Railway. This is a History of LARY and its predecessor companies.
The paragraph notes that "In 1902 Los Angeles Held its La Fiesta, an early day rival to Pasadena's Rose Parade. To transport the crowds downtown to witness the flower-bedecked floats, service was run on all LARY lines lines." The list contains 17 lines, one of which is Washington Street.

If anyone can find a better answer, please post it!

P.S., the 'Basket" on the front of the car was an early safety device to scoop up errant pedestrians who stepped in front of a moving streetcar. Many traction companies used these, and those on LARY cars were not changed to the later "Lifeguard" type until the company was taken over by National City Lines and renamed Los Angeles Transit Lines (LATL).

See:The first two photos on this PE Historical Society page for a comparison of the two types. http://www.pacificelectric.org/categ...ailway/5-line/

The older Gent is probably the Paymaster.The others were probably the motorman and security.

Another thought occurred to me this morning. These may not be official postcards but rather snapshots from a postcard camera such as an Eastman Kodak 122A printed on heavy stock. This would account for the lack of information on the reverse. Also, additional research this morning finds that Car 189 in the top picture was acquired from the Pacific Electric and was built in 1899, coming to LARY in the the great merger of 1910. Does anyone know when Los Angeles held its last La Fiesta, as this dates the photo later than 1902? The 1910 merger resulted in the Pacific Electric coming under the control of the Southern Pacific Company and the city service lines going to Henry Huntington as Los Angeles Railway. Car 9000 in the lower photo was LARY's first Pay Car and was originally numbered 500. Employees entered the front door, collected their pay from the Paymaster and exited the rear door. This car was rebuilt as number 9000 in 1906 (which helps to date the photo but calls into question the WS Service on the reverse as it remained a Pay Car until dismantled in 1913. This was the only car of this type in LARY service. as a result of this mornings research I am inclined to suggest that WS stands for Work Service rather than Washington Street.

Cheers,
Jack

HossC Jul 30, 2015 1:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7112568)

The Thalberg Building in 1942 (architect Claude Beelman 1938-39)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/SAR6mV.jpg
http://www.thestudiotour.com/sonypictures/buildings.php

* Sony Studios has moved the east gate to Madison Avenue to encompass the Thalberg Building.

The Thalberg Building made a few appearances in later episodes of 'CHiPs'. Here's the main entrance playing the part of a hospital when the Getraers were expecting a baby.
Apologies for the quality of the screengrabs - these episodes aren't yet available on DVD.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...bergCHiPs1.jpg
MGM TV/Rosner TV

The Culver Boulevard side also played a hospital a couple of times, but here it's the LAPD.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...bergCHiPs2.jpg
MGM TV/Rosner TV

Culver Boulevard was wider in the '80s, with the street a lot closer to the building. On the opposite corner was this great 'MOTEL' sign.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...bergCHiPs3.jpg
MGM TV/Rosner TV

The motel building is still there, although now it's the Culver Madison Apartments, and the sign has gone.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...adisonApts.jpg
GSV

tovangar2 Jul 30, 2015 3:09 PM

The Thalberg
 
:previous:

One more screengrab of the back of the Thalberg, this time from 1988's "Naked Gun". (I love the flurry of open, metal-framed casements on the right):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-P...64340%2BAM.jpg
itsfilmedthere

Working out his Moderne sensibilities, here's the 1935-37 Hollywood Post Office by Claud Beelman (with an assist from Allison and Allison) for the WPA
(Louis A Simon is listed as "Supervising Architect"):
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-l...65641%2BAM.jpg
gsv

...to compare with Beelman's much larger, but very similar, Thalberg Building (1938-39):
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P...65915%2BAM.jpg
sonypictures.com

And finally, Rhett, Dimples, Andy and Mrs Norman Main skip out of the Thalberg:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-P...64913%2BAM.jpg
judyandfriends

ethereal_reality Jul 30, 2015 3:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7112906)

Culver Boulevard was wider in the '80s, with the street a lot closer to the building. On the opposite corner was this great 'MOTEL' sign.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...bergCHiPs3.jpg
MGM TV/Rosner TV

The motel building is still there, although now it's the Culver Madison Apartments, and the sign has gone.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...adisonApts.jpg
GSV

:previous: I like this before and after Hoss. The motel was built in 1953, but I'm still searching for it's former name.

The large building down the street in your 1980s 'Chips' photograph is the old Culver City City Hall.(below)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/G6WyNr.jpg
http://www.culvercity.org/en/Visitor.../CityHall.aspx


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...633/A8cA83.jpg
http://www.culvercityhistoricalsocie...city-timeline/



Today all that's left of the original building is the front façade (some sites say it's a 3/4th sized replica).


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...909/vq38rx.jpg
gsv


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/NvIdEU.jpg
http://www.culvercity.org/en/Visitor.../CityHall.aspx

I've outlined in red the old footprint of the 1928 city hall building.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/jhqdRA.jpg
google_earth




hmmmm...on second thought, maybe it was only this long. (I dun'no ;)) -what do you guys think?
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...912/qOQY24.jpg
google_earth




One last look at the façade.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...901/EqXntf.jpg
http://culvercitytimes.com/photo/cul...ource=activity

ethereal_reality Jul 30, 2015 4:03 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320...537/YzmUVh.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wig-Wag (Post 7112732)
I am going to go out on a limb here and suggest Washington Street Service.

Thanks Jack. -appreciate the help.

ethereal_reality Jul 30, 2015 4:22 PM

Yesterday afternoon I came across this amazing photograph of post-1933 earthquake Venice High School.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/15IUor.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Pho...item463e87ecd1




before the earthquake.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...913/lIFovG.jpg
http://www.venicehistorical.org/


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/x7v6z5.jpg
cardcow




below: 'Fountain of Education' by Harry Fielding Winebrenner 1922.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/lkk4Dz.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myrna_..._Education.jpg

"In 1921 actress Myrna Loy posed for Venice High School sculpture teach Harry Fielding Winebrenner for the central figure 'Inspiration' in the sculpture group."





Today
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/45dCwU.jpg
http://marvistamom.com/2015/05/20/ve...tion-may-26th/

:previous: After years of neglect and vandalism (for years it was surrounded by an ugly iron fence) the original statue group was taken down in 2002
and replaced with this beautiful bronze replica of 'Inspiration' was installed in 2010.

I'm not sure what happened to the other statues in the sculpture group. Does anyone know?

__

Slauson Slim Jul 30, 2015 4:27 PM

Thalberg Building
 
My sister worked for MGM and had an office in the Thalberg Building during the 1980s - the times of the Kerkorian/Turner cha-cha-cha.

I visited her there a few times. I remember wide hallways, and movie posters on the hallway walls. It was a hushed and purposeful place, and the folks I met that worked there seemed happy - many long time employees, and were into Hollywood history and the film industry.

I had lunch with her a couple of times in the commissary, and once in the Lion's Den executive commissary, and saw a few television and film actors. There were movie posters on the walls, and next to them were Oscars on little shelves.

I have a photo from the MGM Stills Department of Dorothy, Toto, Cowardly Lion, Tin Man and Scarecrow in the poppy field.

HossC Jul 30, 2015 4:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7113088)

I've outlined in red the old footprint of the 1928 city hall building.

hmmmm...on second thought, maybe it was only this long. (I dun'no ;)) -what do you guys think?
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...912/qOQY24.jpg
google_earth


It looks like you're second guess was pretty close, e_r. The clearest shot I could find on Historic Aerials was 1980:

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...tyHall1980.jpg
Historic Aerials

The 1948 image shows the word "CULVER CITY" on either side of the roof. The later shots are considerably more blurry, but I think the lettering survived into the '60s.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...tyHall1948.jpg
Historic Aerials

I'll have to see if it appeared in 'CHiPs'.

ethereal_reality Jul 30, 2015 4:40 PM

:previous: Excellent find HossC!

I love the 'CULVER CITY' written on the roof in that 1948 aerial.

Note the buildings that were lost for the rear parking lot.

Wig-Wag Jul 30, 2015 4:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7113120)

Folks, in light of some additional research I have revised my original answer to ER's question above. Post#30026.

Cheers,
Jack

tovangar2 Jul 30, 2015 5:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wig-Wag (Post 7112732)
Does anyone know when Los Angeles held its last La Fiesta, as this dates the photo later than 1902?

Cecilia Rasmussen noted in LAT in 2003 that La Fiesta ran from 1894 to the start of WWI. It's here. (There was the one-time revival in 1931 too.)

ethereal_reality Jul 30, 2015 6:29 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/9tmFZn.jpg
eBay

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wig-Wag (Post 7112732)
:previous: The older Gent is probably the Paymaster.The others were probably the motorman and security.

Car 9000 was LARY's first Pay Car and was originally numbered 500. Employees entered the front door, collected their pay from the Paymaster and exited the rear door. This car was rebuilt as number 9000 in 1906 (which helps to date the photo but calls into question the WS Service on the reverse as it remained a Pay Car until dismantled in 1913. This was the only car of this type in LARY service. as a result of this mornings research I am inclined to suggest that WS stands for Work Service rather than Washing Street.

Thanks for the clarification Wig-Wag.

ethereal_reality Jul 30, 2015 6:47 PM

La Casa de la Centinela



Have we visited the Adobe Centinela on NLA?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/OtOPhb.jpg

reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...909/5snYvM.jpg



It's still stands northeast of LAX.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/woH8oV.jpg
google_earth



It barely survived the construction of the 405.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/EzlSwN.jpg
google_earth




pretty darn close!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/awdYdD.png




There's actually a sign facing the freeway that I hadn't noticed before.

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gsv




Here it is from Midfield Avenue.

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gsv




There's another interesting building just inside the gate to the right.


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gsv / detail

tovangar2 Jul 30, 2015 6:55 PM

Myrna Loy statue, Venice High School + Centinela Adobe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7113156)
I'm not sure what happened to the other statues in the sculpture group. Does anyone know?
__

No, but apparently the other figures were done by students.

An interesting, detailed history is here.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-G...14430%2BAM.jpg
moreaboutmyrna

________________________________________________________________

The Centinela Adobe was built in 1834. Canadian Daniel Freeman was living there when he founded the City of Inglewood (named after his hometown) on a portion of his Rancho Aguaje de la Centinela. The smaller building is Freeman's 1887 land office. It used to be on Florence Ave near Eucalyptus. The adobe is not in Inglewood. It is maintained jointly by the City of Inglewood and the Historical Society of the Centinela Valley. - wiki

The adobe in 1889:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-D...20855%2BPM.jpg
wiki

The Centinela-Inglewood Land Company office (1887):
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-m...22942%2BPM.jpg
wiki

More info from LAT

HossC Jul 30, 2015 7:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7113387)

Have we visited the Adobe Centinela on NLA?

It barely survived the construction of the 405.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/EzlSwN.jpg
google_earth

I wondered whether La Casa de la Centinela Adobe was still in its original location. This 1952 image shows the Adobe prior to the freeway construction, so unless it was moved before 1952, it got lucky!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...tinela1952.jpg
Historic Aerials

Martin Pal Jul 30, 2015 8:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7112568)
That's the art deco Irving Thalberg Building in the background (just outside the east gate of MGM*)

* Sony Studios has moved the east gate to Madison Avenue to encompass the Thalberg Building.

Aerial shot of the Thalberg Building in 1946.
Madison Ave. is on the left and the original
east gate entrance on the right.

http://www.culvercityhistoricalsocie...lding-1946.jpg


The East Gate entrance in 1939.

http://www.culvercityhistoricalsocie...939-Medium.jpg

tovangar2 Jul 30, 2015 11:16 PM

Thalberg Building
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7113507)
Aerial shot of the Thalberg Building in 1946.
Madison Ave. is on the left and the original
east gate entrance on the right.

http://www.culvercityhistoricalsocie...lding-1946.jpg

Thank you Martin for the reminder that there were small businesses on Madison and Washington then (lower, right corner). All later swept away for more parking in front of the Thalberg.

It was the funeral home business, next to the Thalberg on Madison, that hung on forever. No one could dislodge them. I cannot remember now when it was finally absorbed into the lot. Relatively recently. It was eventually rebuilt to blend in with the Thalberg. (I think when the new east gate arch was built)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-o...34359%2BPM.jpg
google maps

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-K...40840%2BPM.jpg
gsv

CityBoyDoug Jul 30, 2015 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7113507)

Late one night I delivered some heavy 35mm film cans to the MGM gate after we had a movie preview at the Pasadena theater where I worked. This was 1962 and it was a long drive home after that trip.
That was in my first car and being a teenager, I felt like an adult. I was amazed they trusted me with the cans of raw film.

The name of the movie was never announced before the Previews. It was all a surprise for the audience. The studio chiefs and a few ''stars'' would attend
the previews to gauge public reaction. Many months later the edited film would be released.

A few times the ''preview'' film was never seen again.....ever. But the public was always hoping to sneak-preview the next "Gone With The Wind".

broadwy_central_bldg Jul 31, 2015 3:39 AM

Broadway Central Building/Judson C. Rives Building
 
Hi, I just wanted to introduce myself. I'm new to this forum, and I'm currently getting acquainted by poring over this thread from top to bottom. It's engrossing and consistently amazing. I spend a lot of time browsing around the USC Digital Library, the LAPL Photo Collection, Historical Society, etc. But never have I seen such a well curated selection with such passionate and informative input from all of you!

So thank you! What treasures...

I don't want to show up empty handed, so to offer something that is hopefully new here (I searched for previous posts but came up empty): I'm a resident of "The Judson," one of those adaptive-reuse loft developments in Historic Core, Downtown Los Angeles. It's in the former Broadway Central Building, later known as the Judson C. Rives Building (a name perhaps familiar to folks on this thread).

The lovely structure--the tallest on the block--sits on Broadway between 4th and 5th, across the street from the old Broadway Department Store, and a block south of the Bradbury. It was built in 1906-07. I'm still studying its history, but I have a few terrific old photos of the place that I think would fit nicely in this thread. The first is from 1906, still under construction. Looking north on Broadway toward 4th. It's the tall building in the center of the shot:

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3784/...6f092de1_h.jpg

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...coll65/id/1694

The next is from 1928, looking south on Broadway from 4th. It's the tall building on the left:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/478/1...63eb8006_h.jpg

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...coll65/id/1801

The retail space on the ground floor is still occupied by a shoe store today! The Broadway Theatre was also located in this structure, and you can see its sign here. (The theatre space is no longer there, although what appear to be elements of the lobby remain inside our entryway).

Finally, a Dick Whittington view of the bustling intersection of 5th and Broadway from 1939, with the Judson C. Rives Building in the top center:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/287/1...ea10ba4a_b.jpg

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...ll170/id/20477

All images are from the USC Digital Library's collections.

Anyway, just wanted to share these photos and say hello. Hope you enjoy them! And thanks again for the terrific thread.

Flyingwedge Jul 31, 2015 5:14 AM

More Centinela Adobe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7113426)
I wondered whether La Casa de la Centinela Adobe was still in its original location. This 1952 image shows the Adobe prior to the freeway construction, so unless it was moved before 1952, it got lucky!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...tinela1952.jpg
Historic Aerials

I think the Centinela Adobe just got lucky with its narrow miss from the 405.

Here's part of a 1932 photo looking west over Inglewood. I've labeled the east-west streets; the 3-story building just above "Florence" at the NE
corner of Florence and Inglewood Avenues is still standing. The Centinela Adobe is hidden by trees near the upper left corner, but the tree-lined
driveway leading to it is reasonably clear. You can see a bit of meandering Centinela Creek east of the adobe. In the lower right corner, "Jct" marks a
fork in a railroad line. If you look closely, you can see half of a train on the southern fork, which went to Redondo Beach, and the other half east of the
junction. The northern fork was built to get to Port Ballona, a would-be harbor that was not completed:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...f.jpg~original
USCDL -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...coll65/id/3709

This 1888 Los Angeles County Map clearly shows the rail lines (dashed lines) and junction. At first I thought the line to Redondo was built first, but upon
further review I think the line to Port Ballona was the first to open. I'm sure there are plenty of folks here who know the story better than I do:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...8.jpg~original
Library of Congress -- http://www.loc.gov/resource/g4363l.la000023/

In this NE-facing photo taken September 12, 1949, the group of trees near the upper right corner marks the location of the Centinela Adobe. The major
intersection in the lower right corner is La Tijera Blvd. (runs upper left to lower right) and Manchester Avenue:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...s.jpg~original
USCDL -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...coll65/id/2795

In this north-facing c. 1950 photo, emerging from bottom center are Aviation Blvd. and the railroad line from Redondo Beach. The rail line curves at
Manchester Avenue (see the curve on the 1888 map above) and runs along the north side of Florence Avenue. The Centinela Adobe is marked by the
largest clump of trees visible, just to the right of center and above the rail line. Some of the trees lining the driveway to the adobe are still there:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...t.jpg~original
USCDL -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...oll65/id/12364

P.S. Welcome BCB and thanks for your interesting post!

CityBoyDoug Jul 31, 2015 5:28 AM

Welcome....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by broadwy_central_bldg (Post 7113966)
Hi, I just wanted to introduce myself. I'm new to this forum, and I'm currently getting acquainted by poring over this thread from top to bottom. It's engrossing and consistently amazing.
Finally, a Dick Whittington view of the bustling intersection of 5th and Broadway from 1939, with the Judson C. Rives Building in the top center:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/287/1...ea10ba4a_b.jpg

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...ll170/id/20477

Anyway, just wanted to share these photos and say hello. Hope you enjoy them! And thanks again for the terrific thread.


Hello broadwy_central_bldg. Most interesting that you actually live in the Central Core of downtown Los Angeles.

The building at the far right in your posted photo is the Chester Williams Building. I know it well as my father had his law office in that building for 30 years.

Maybe if you have the inclination we'd like to see a post from you about what its like to live in your building and the area. How are the markets, parking, restaurants and other factors of a life downtown.

Welcome to this thread. Its amazing to me how much people on this thread know about Los Angeles. Its encyclopedic and then some.

Godzilla Jul 31, 2015 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 6804056)
1941 - Norton Ave meets North Harper.

A quiet and sedate neighborhood at the cusp of a multi-family-dwelling building boom.




1941 - Norton Ave (I reckon we are looking south at Chapman's Ice Cream, 8246 Santa Monica Blvd, per '42CD. Yes, the building with the scalloped front entrance is still there. Make mine French vanilla topped with walnuts)
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A decade earlier, Nov. '29, and further west . . . Norton Avenue meets Fairfax Avenue. Intersection is now hardly recognizable.



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Godzilla Jul 31, 2015 1:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 7049518)

I don't think there have been many photos posted of Fairfax between Beverly and Sixth. It looks like the structure with the tower facade was built before 1931. (The exterior motif seems vaguely similar to the nearby Ralphs at Wilshire and Hauser.) It currently houses Molly Mallone's at 575 S Fairfax. (Molly's started in '69. Does anyone have any history on the structure before that?) 1931 was also the approximate construction date of the 5-story structure that is now occupied by Samy's Camera. For those keeping score, Johnson's Fine Foods was at 525 S Fairfax.

From: http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/34672/rec/1


1931 - Drexel Ave meets S Fairfax Ave. Can't help but think about the planes that used to fly and land nearby.
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If only some of this land were still in it's primordial state.
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Curious about the witch hats at the roof corners. Could they be oil funnels? :hmmm: Or megaphones ?:no:

I have it on NO authority that Liz Short preferred Mayflower Chips. But she could have liked Scudder's peanut butter. Unsalted. Wonder about the product shelf life in the '30s, and what, if any, preservatives were used.

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The light colored structures in the background would seem to have been eventually replaced by Park La Brea. Could they have been temporary? Not to be confused with the elementary school. Hancock Elementary was at 4th and Fairfax, presumably in the other direction.

Johnson's Fine Foods
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Fairfax looking north. The building now occupied by Samy's, but in 1931.
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Samy's
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More Fairfax Ave. here >>> http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=25100





Supplemental to the edited :previous: Fairfax Ave images, is this (relatively) undated (< '38) aerial of the above area. http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...d/21793/rec/68 It appears that the barely improved property may have included a golf driving range, a baseball diamond (or two), and an enclosed field or possibly even a rodeo venue. Never been a fan of parking lots but I think I prefer the functional MayCo lot to the big rock.:shrug:











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Godzilla Jul 31, 2015 1:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7037672)

. . . . .


The Harbor Freeway looking south from 1st Street.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...0.jpg~original






Another look at neighborhoods deftly carved by the 101 and 110 Freeways.
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Source dates image circa '50-'59.
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tovangar2 Jul 31, 2015 5:55 PM

Molly Malone's / the Broadway Central building (the Judson)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 7049518)
I don't think there have been many photos posted of Fairfax between Beverly and Sixth. It looks like the structure with the tower facade was built before 1931. (The exterior motif seems vaguely similar to the nearby Ralphs at Wilshire and Hauser.) It currently houses Molly Mallone's at 575 S Fairfax. (Molly's started in '69. Does anyone have any history on the structure before that?)

I'm pretty sure the Molly Malone building is a Nordstrom and Anderson effort from 1929. They had a nice line in the Churrigueresque style, as did Stiles O. Clements for a time. In the 30s, Nordstrom and Anderson segued into Streamline Moderne, as in their Sontag Drug building on the Miracle Mile.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6...04804%2BAM.jpg
gsv


_________________________________________________


Thank you BCB. That shot, together with a gsv,
makes a great 'then and now'

One City Hall:
....and then another City Hall:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o...10455%2BAM.jpg
gsv

The Broadway Theater at the Broadway Central Building, 1925-1988. This view is from 1954:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-L...12422%2BAM.jpg
Sean Ault Archives by Osiris Press via historiclosangelestheaters

broadwy_central_bldg Jul 31, 2015 6:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7114039)
Hello broadwy_central_bldg. Most interesting that you actually live in the Central Core of downtown Los Angeles.

Maybe if you have the inclination we'd like to see a post from you about what its like to live in your building and the area. How are the markets, parking, restaurants and other factors of a life downtown.

I would be happy to!

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7114039)
The building at the far right in your posted photo is the Chester Williams Building. I know it well as my father had his law office in that building for 30 years.

That building now houses the Walgreen's where I go to buy milk :) They did a nice job of restoring the facade. Very cool that you have memories of it before it became lofts!

http://i0.wp.com/brighamyen.com/wp-c...size=495%2C330
http://brighamyen.com/2014/02/03/wil...y-downtown-la/

I personally love living on this stretch of Broadway. It's a little rough in parts, especially at night (we are just a couple of blocks from Skid Row). But it feels like the absolute center of downtown. Within just one block of my apartment are: Pershing Square, Grand Central Market, the Bradbury Building, the Broadway-Spring Arcade Building, the Continental Building, the Title Guarantee Building (1930), the OLD Title Guarantee Building (1912), Hotel Clark, J.J. Newberry's (now Fallas Parades)...too many more to list! And that's literally just within one block.

Living down here at the moment feels a little bit like...Soho NYC in the 80s? Still a lot of run-down storefronts, dark old theater marquees, and homelessness. But it seems like every week there's a new shop, cafe, or renovated theater opening (just last night we walked past the re-opening of the Globe Theatre a few blocks away). The other residents here are a mix of students, young professionals, artistic types, musicians and so on. I think we all tend to feel a little like "urban explorers" or maybe a little like the frontiersmen who were drawn to Los Angeles at the turn of the last century. You can just tell that downtown is in period of tremendous growth, and it's exciting to be part of that.

Due to the renaissance of the past few years, this part of downtown offers some tremendous conveniences. We have easy access to nearly all the Metro train lines. From Union Station, and to all points beyond... I do have a car, but I try as much as possible not to drive it. For those visiting downtown, you might be surprised to know that (depending on the time of day) street parking is actually relatively easy to find.

We do daily produce shopping at Grand Central Market, which I understand has been a fixture of this neighborhood for nearly 100 years. Chinatown and Little Tokyo are also short walks away, always nice for lunch or dinner. Our other favorite haunt is Cole's P.E. Buffet in the old Pacific Electric Terminal. It's been gussied up, but it still has a Victorian charm that is very "Old Los Angeles." Of course, the Plaza, Olvera Street, Union Station... more lovely spots to take a walk. I also love trekking up Bunker Hill, mostly because, outside of normal 9-5 work hours, it's a total ghost town-- a surprisingly tranquil place to escape the bustle of the city and take in some spectacular views too.

Living here, almost everything we need is within walking distance, or at least a short subway trip away. It's almost like actually living in a proper big city ;)

I'll be happy to post more photos or whatever people are interested in. I'll leave you with a great shot of Grand Central Market, a place I visit almost daily. Does anyone know in which part of the market this stall/counter was? It looks like Belcampo Meat Co. to me, but I have no idea.
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3796/...4ae0e040_b.jpg

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...ll170/id/43203

broadwy_central_bldg Jul 31, 2015 6:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7114583)
Thank you BCB. That shot, together with a gsv,
makes a great 'then and now'

Sure does! I think later I'll try to do a Then and Now series of Broadway with some old photos and postcards. It's kind of amazing how some of the views have barely changed.

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7114583)
The Broadway Theater at the Broadway Central Building, 1925-1988:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-L...12422%2BAM.jpg
Sean Ault Archives by Osiris Press via historiclosangelestheaters

Thank you for this photo! I haven't seen it (at least not blown up)... did not know there was a music shop here too! I love it. Here's a GSV because why not:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/474/2...5eb9e3d9_b.jpg

via GSV


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