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Flyingwedge Sep 5, 2019 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8677725)
I became interested in John T. Harris' home address, 600 S. Coronado St.

Now if I only had a picture of the place! The address appears to be just barely off the 1909 Bird's Eye map of L.A.


There's a 606 S. Coronado on the 1906 Sanborn Map, with the corner lot to the north empty. A building permit dated January 11, 1910,
provides for moving 606 S. Coronado to 283 S. Coronado, where it appears to remain today.

The building at 600 S. Coronado also occupied the former site of 606 and stood from 1910-59. Below at upper left is 600 S. Coronado
on the 1950 Sanborn, on the SE corner of 6th Street:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psvxnszqc9.jpg

ProQuest via LA Public Library


Here's a fuzzy 1925 aerial with 600 S. Coronado at upper left:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...pskyolycfh.jpg

EXM-P-S-LOS-ANG-CIT-BUI-095 @ USC Digital Library


These next two photos are undated but I'd guess c. 1940. Here, 600 S. Coronado is below the dog and cat food ad:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psb7kfcrb1.jpg

DW-SD-93-23-112 @ USC Digital Library


This is the closest view of 600 S. Coronado I could find:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...pswurpfg6y.jpg

DW-SD-93-23-112 @ USC Digital Library

odinthor Sep 5, 2019 12:06 AM

:previous:

An interesting and whimsical building--thanks Flyingwedge! --A worthy addition to NLA.

FredH Sep 5, 2019 2:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8674317)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/C8PkLa.jpg
i.pinimg

The poor guy wasn't holding on when they took off. :lmao:





I also located another photograph of the Lawrence, Indiana Flying Pegasus. (Peggy)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/hMm2df.jpg
i.pinimg


Do any of you car fans know how they did this trick? ... (the car equivalent of popping a wheelie)



Original photo of Peggy in Los Angeles HERE
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E.R. - I believe the "trick" here was just a matter of weight distribution.

The rear seat they added on to Peggy allowed them to lean back and raise up the front wheels. The short wheel base of the car also helped.

https://i.postimg.cc/xTqYxVkL/peggy.png

I think that they only pulled this wheelie when the vehicle was stopped.



Of course, if you are out to kill yourself, you can go this route.

https://i.postimg.cc/xT7QBpHh/wheelie.png
YouTube

ethereal_reality Sep 5, 2019 4:29 AM

:previous: Thanks for the explanation, FredH. I appreciate it.


Your post reminded me of the school bus driver I had in grade school.

Whenever he realized we were going to be late we all knew to hold on for dear life.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/1862/naI3gI.gif

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ethereal_reality Sep 5, 2019 5:03 AM

Wow, there has been excellent sluething going on since I posted last night!

Thanks for the follow-ups, noirishers. You guys are the best! :worship:




re: John Harris' early death at the Los Angeles Athletic Club.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 8677481)
Sounds like a classic case of sleep apnea. History of heart trouble and audible snoring......Earl

It could very well have been sleep apnea, Earl....but there's also the 'mystery' accountant that was with him in the room.
(remember - he's the one who told the authorities Mr. Harris snored)

originally posted by odinthor
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/tcu1Ty.jpg

Mr. Harris didn't check in until 11: 00 in the evening and he was awake until, at least, 3:00 in the morning.
The next morning, the young accountant said they were doing 'accounting' in his room.

I'm not one for conspiracies, but still. :shrug:

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Earl Boebert Sep 5, 2019 2:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8678278)
Wow, there has been excellent sluething going on since I posted last night!

Thanks for the follow-ups, noirishers. You guys are the best! :worship:




re: John Harris' early death at the Los Angeles Athletic Club.

It could very well have been sleep apnea, Earl....but there's also the 'mystery' accountant that was with him in the room.
(remember - he's the one who told the authorities Mr. Harris snored)

originally posted by odinthor
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/tcu1Ty.jpg

Mr. Harris didn't check in until 11: 00 in the evening and he was awake until, at least, 3:00 in the morning.
The next morning, the young accountant said they were doing 'accounting' in his room.

I'm not one for conspiracies, but still. :shrug:

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Yeah, I didn't read that carefully enough. A young man acts as an accountant at the club and the club manager doesn't know his name? More than a bit fishy.

Earl

ethereal_reality Sep 5, 2019 3:08 PM

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While searching for 600. S. Coronado St. (John T. Harris' former home) I happened upon this very interesting RPPC on eBay.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/t0ihIS.jpg
eBay

3rd & Coronado Service Station, Los Angeles [no date]

Note the arched doorways on both sides of the service station property. They no doubt lead to stairs that go up to the higher elevation and apartments above.




UPDATE:

Wow! The northeast of 3rd and Coronado is relatively unchanged.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/QSnbgj.jpg

As you can see..the gas station is gone and a liquor store has taken its place.









Here's how the corner looks from above.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/z1etYn.jpg
GSV


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CityBoyDoug Sep 5, 2019 3:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8676953)
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When a person thinks of cantilevered architecture most think of FLW's Fallingwater.


Few remember the cantilevered wing at the Huntington Hotel in Pasadena. [shown below]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/Z6oOWw.jpg

The Huntington Hotel and Swimming Pool, Pasadena California.






Seriously now:

Is it just me, or is this rppc creating an optical illusion?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/T7ZPdz.jpg
eBay


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https://www.watg.com/wp-content/uplo..._2-720x515.jpg
langham corp.

Without all the ivy.

odinthor Sep 5, 2019 4:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8678519)
. [...]
UPDATE:

Wow! The northeast of 3rd and Coronado is relatively unchanged.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/QSnbgj.jpg

As you can see..the gas station is gone and a liquor store has taken its place.









Here's how the corner looks from above.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/z1etYn.jpg
GSV


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Thanks, e_r! It's interesting to contemplate all of this. Noticing the similar security fencing on top of the liquor store and then also along the property line between the residence above the liquor store and the parking lot next door, I'm inclined to think what maybe is obvious, that the lower property (former service station/current liquor store) is owned by the upper property; and, though there's nothing to crow about aesthetically in the rambling and fortress-like upper property, it seems very well maintained, income likely coming from not only from rental proceeds from the liquor store but also probably from the augmented granny flat above the garage. Also, the owner receives enough money to be able to invest in saving money: I refer to the solar panels. I'd also hazard a guess that the owner reserves the garage's parking facility for owner's use, giving granny flat renter the right to park in the liquor store's little lot (note that the driveway ramp for the garage has been extended laterally enough to accommodate driving into the liquor store lot). Of course I could be totally wrong about all this; but looking it over provides much food for thought!

Beaudry Sep 5, 2019 7:03 PM

More on the Perry Mason filming on Hill St:

http://www.somosprimos.com/mimistori...gelsflight.jpgsomosprimos

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...8977cd34_o.png
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...49d54707_o.png
https://www.instagram.com/hiddenhistoryla/

Beaudry Sep 5, 2019 7:16 PM

Greetings fellow Noirishers!

Well I went and did it, started my own blog.

With all the cool old structures in LA being felled left and right I thought I would document them as their demo permits got pulled.

Sooooo here I am using this platform to shamelessly plug my new venture, but only 'cuz I figure some of y'all might dig it. Give it a look-see: R.I.P. Los Angeles

GaylordWilshire Sep 5, 2019 9:22 PM

:previous:


Beaudry-- I suppose you know you've made the Larchmont Buzz...

https://www.larchmontbuzz.com/larchm...or-demolition/

ethereal_reality Sep 5, 2019 10:15 PM

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RE: Huntington Hotel, Pasadena
Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8676999)
As a kid, I dipped in that pool a few times. But what I remember most was the lush Bermuda grass on both sides of the pool. You even got a huge hotel towel to use. The public could use the pool for a dollar.

That hotel was my landing place for the Airport Bus in my Navy days. LAX <-> Huntington Hotel $3 one way....I think the bus left every two or three hours. We lived about 2 miles distant at that time.

[I believe the ivy on the side of the hotel gives an illusion]
................................................................................................................Without all the ivy.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/Z6oOWw.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/4SEy87.jpg

:previous: Thanks so much for sharing your memories, CBD.

Did you know the Huntington Hotel pool was California's first Olympic sized swimming pool? [built in 1926]
You were swimming in a BIG pool, CBD! :drowning:

I also found this interesting.

"At the beginning of WW2 as the nation mobilized, all hotel reservations were cancelled, still, the hotel remained open for civilian and military use.
The army's 35th Division used a portion of the hotel as its regional headquarters."


I thought it would be easy-peasy to locate a photo of the 35th Regional Division HQ when it was located at the hotel...but so far I've come up empty.



Info. HERE

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CityBoyDoug Sep 5, 2019 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8679078)
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RE: Huntington Hotel, Pasadena

:previous: Thanks so much for sharing your memories, CBD.

Did you know the Huntington Hotel pool was California's first Olympic swimming pool? [built in 1926]
You were swimming in a BIG pool, CBD! :drowning:

I also found this interesting.

"At the beginning of WW2 as the nation mobilized, all hotel reservations were cancelled, still, the hotel remained open for civilian and military use.
The army's 35th Division used a portion of the hotel as its regional headquarters."


I thought it would be easy-peasy to locate a photo of the 35th Regional Division HQ when it was located at the hotel...but so far I've come up empty.



Info. HERE

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Thanks ER for the info and update. Not knowing, I checked on the size of an ''Olympic Pool".
Olympic-size swimming pools are approximately 164 feet in length and 82 feet in width.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/Z6oOWw.jpg

Mstimc Sep 6, 2019 12:35 AM

My parents always had a bottle of Bromo-Seltzer in our kicthen cupboard. Didn't they take it off the market because it contained some kind of carcinogenic metal as a base?

ethereal_reality Sep 6, 2019 1:17 AM

Mercury?

Noir_Noir Sep 6, 2019 3:02 AM

Camp McCormick (Hotel Huntington)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8679078)
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RE: Huntington Hotel, Pasadena


I also found this interesting.

"At the beginning of WW2 as the nation mobilized, all hotel reservations were cancelled, still, the hotel remained open for civilian and military use.
The army's 35th Division used a portion of the hotel as its regional headquarters."


I thought it would be easy-peasy to locate a photo of the 35th Regional Division HQ when it was located at the hotel...but so far I've come up empty.



Camp McCormick (Hotel Huntington)


"The 1 June 1943 edition of the Army of the United States Station List indicates that the Western Defense Command used this hotel for the headquarters
of the Southern California Sector and the Coast Sub-Sector as well as other Western Defense Command. The hotel's history also indicates that the 35th
Infantry Division was headquartered there while attached to the Western Defense Command. Early in the war, the 35th Infantry Division, a Kansas and
Nebraska National Guard unit, was charged with defending Southern California against a possible Japanese attacks or seaborne invasion. The hotel was
returned to its owners in 1945.

While occupied by the Army, additional "Theater of Operations" type of buildings and hutments were added to the hotel that provided housing for 179 enlisted
soldiers and six officers. The Army occupied six acres of the resort's area and spent $472,000.00 in construction costs."


http://www.militarymuseum.org/CpMcCormick.html



Main gate and guard shack.

https://i.imgur.com/04SZtAF.jpg
militarymuseum.org



Hutments used for housing enlisted soldiers.

https://i.imgur.com/XjH0PbY.jpg
militarymuseum.org



Members of the Army's Signal Corps manning the hotel's switchboard.

https://i.imgur.com/Qrb0ICU.jpg
militarymuseum.org


Army cooks in the Hotel Huntington's kitchen.

https://i.imgur.com/QDH5NfQ.jpg
militarymuseum.org

sadykadie2 Sep 6, 2019 5:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 8676786)
I've been digging through boxes of family photos looking for pictures of my dad, who passed away quite recently. In one box I stumbled across this undated brochure. I don't think this attraction has been previously mentioned at Noirish Los Angeles, but I could be wrong.

https://i.postimg.cc/W1G1qhjq/MW-1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/q7pMs4Mb/MW-2.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Dz5f5HS2/MW-3.jpg

If anyone can share additional photos or information about the hotel, it would be much appreciated.

So sorry, HS.:(

ethereal_reality Sep 6, 2019 4:38 PM

Noir Noir, thanks for posting the images of Camp McCormick (Hotel Huntington).

I especially liked the photograph of the switchboard because you can see the arched bay windows of the hotel. (in the background)






A few days ago HossC and I were discussing the window situation in the Taft Building. (southeast corner of Hollywood & Vine)


I just came across this photograph of Chester Conklin [c.1930]. At bottom right you can see the original window situation of the Taft Bldg.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/WJUP92.jpg
Filming in Los Angeles / Arcadia Books

Frustratingly, the name of Chester's movie isn't included in the information.

Is anyone a Chester Conklin fan? I thought you might know the name of the film.

(1930 seems a bit late for a silent movie)

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JeffDiego Sep 6, 2019 5:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 8678029)
There's a 606 S. Coronado on the 1906 Sanborn Map, with the corner lot to the north empty. A building permit dated January 11, 1910,
provides for moving 606 S. Coronado to 283 S. Coronado, where it appears to remain today.

The building at 600 S. Coronado also occupied the former site of 606 and stood from 1910-59. Below at upper left is 600 S. Coronado
on the 1950 Sanborn, on the SE corner of 6th Street:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psvxnszqc9.jpg

ProQuest via LA Public Library


Here's a fuzzy 1925 aerial with 600 S. Coronado at upper left:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...pskyolycfh.jpg

EXM-P-S-LOS-ANG-CIT-BUI-095 @ USC Digital Library


These next two photos are undated but I'd guess c. 1940. Here, 600 S. Coronado is below the dog and cat food ad:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psb7kfcrb1.jpg

DW-SD-93-23-112 @ USC Digital Library


This is the closest view of 600 S. Coronado I could find:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...pswurpfg6y.jpg

DW-SD-93-23-112 @ USC Digital Library

FASCINATING old building, Flyingwedge. Very much in the style of the Mission Apartments. Thank you! Any idea of the building's name?

HossC Sep 6, 2019 7:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 8678029)

This is the closest view of 600 S. Coronado I could find:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...pswurpfg6y.jpg

DW-SD-93-23-112 @ USC Digital Library

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffDiego (Post 8679734)

FASCINATING old building, Flyingwedge. Very much in the style of the Mission Apartments. Thank you! Any idea of the building's name?

Looking through the CDs, 600 S Coronado seems to have been known as the Royal Court Apartments for most of its life. In 1911 and 1912, the address is listed as 604 S Coronado, but it's 600 from 1913 to 1942. The 1956 CD doesn't give a name.

I did find one oddity along the way. In 1916, 600 S Coronado was home to the La Grange Symmetrical School, (Kindergarten and Grammar Grades). It's the school's only appearance in the CDs.

Flyingwedge Sep 6, 2019 7:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffDiego (Post 8679734)
FASCINATING old building, Flyingwedge. Very much in the style of the Mission Apartments. Thank you! Any idea of the building's name?

Ooops . . . Hoss beat me to it.

Thanks, Jeff!

At least initially, it was known as the Royal Court Apartments:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psdfxzrcvl.jpg

March 1, 1910, Los Angeles Herald @ CDNC via UC Riverside


The January 6, 1910, building permit lists the building's address as 600-604 Coronado and shows the building's owner,
James D. Fiscus, as the architect. The 1911 LA City Directory gives the address as 604 S. Coronado.

odinthor Sep 6, 2019 7:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8679660)
Noir Noir, thanks for posting the images of Camp McCormick (Hotel Huntington).

I especially liked the photograph of the switchboard because you can see the arched bay windows of the hotel. (in the background)






A few days ago HossC and I were discussing the window situation in the Taft Building. (southeast corner of Hollywood & Vine)


I just came across this photograph of Chester Conklin [c.1930]. At bottom right you can see the original window situation of the Taft Bldg.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/WJUP92.jpg
Filming in Los Angeles / Arcadia Books

Frustratingly, the name of Chester's movie isn't included in the information.

Is anyone a Chester Conklin fan? I thought you might know the name of the film.

(1930 seems a bit late for a silent movie)

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e_r: Going by the date, I wonder if it could be the 1930 sound short with Chester Conklin called Sky Scrappers . . . ?

JeffDiego Sep 6, 2019 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 8679849)
Ooops . . . Hoss beat me to it.

Thanks, Jeff!

At least initially, it was known as the Royal Court Apartments:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psdfxzrcvl.jpg

March 1, 1910, Los Angeles Herald @ CDNC via UC Riverside


The January 6, 1910, building permit lists the building's address as 600-604 Coronado and shows the building's owner,
James D. Fiscus, as the architect. The 1911 LA City Directory gives the address as 604 S. Coronado.

Thanks, Flyingwedge and Hoss. I'd assumed this bldg. was on Bunker Hill, not remembering that Coronado Street is in the Westlake Park district - so had wondered why we'd never seen it in Bunker Hill photos. Now that's cleared up - and I wonder if anyone has an additional photo or photos of The Royal Court Apts? I am mesmerized by the bldg. Elements of the Green Hotel and The Hollywood Hotel, but quite singular on its own.
By the way, notice the sign across the street that says "Yorty." Was that our memorable Mr. Sam Yorty, circa 1940?

BillinGlendaleCA Sep 7, 2019 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffDiego (Post 8680066)
By the way, notice the sign across the street that says "Yorty." Was that our memorable Mr. Sam Yorty, circa 1940?

Could very well be, he ran for US Senate in 1940.

Scott Charles Sep 7, 2019 9:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8679660)
I just came across this photograph of Chester Conklin [c.1930]. At bottom right you can see the original window situation of the Taft Bldg.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/WJUP92.jpg

Frustratingly, the name of Chester's movie isn't included in the information.

Is anyone a Chester Conklin fan? I thought you might know the name of the film.

(1930 seems a bit late for a silent movie)

“Chester Conklin is out on a beam atop the newly completed Guaranty Bldg at Hollywood Blvd and Ivar in Cleaning Up” (Paramount, 1930). We see the vertical of the Pantages on the left and the Music Box Theatre further down the street. The image appears on page 35 of the Arcadia Publishing book "Location Filming in Los Angeles" by Karie Bible, Marc Wanamaker and Harry Medved. The page with the photo is included in the books preview on Google Books.”

https://losangelestheatres.blogspot....-overview.html

According to IMDB, the film features sound.

CityBoyDoug Sep 7, 2019 9:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8679078)
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RE: Huntington Hotel, Pasadena

:previous: Thanks so much for sharing your memories, CBD.

Did you know the Huntington Hotel pool was California's first Olympic sized swimming pool? [built in 1926]
You were swimming in a BIG pool, CBD! :drowning:


I've spent days looking at old Historic Aerials of the Huntington Hotel and I don't seem to see an Olympic sized pool anywhere on the property. That would be a pool about 164 feet long by 82 feet wide. Does anyone have photos of a pool that large at the hotel?

This is so baffling. LA noir is filled with mysteries.

On a side note, there is a huge pool of near that size at the Hearst Castle property but that's north of LA. Its called the Neptune Pool and was completed in 1936. You can even swim in it this summer for a fee...$1000


This is the pool I remember with its surrounding Bermuda grass and cabanas. I think the pool had been there for many decades.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/T7ZPdz.jpg
eBay

Thanks to Noir Noir for the cool photos from WW II era Army days.

sadykadie2 Sep 8, 2019 4:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 8678029)
There's a 606 S. Coronado on the 1906 Sanborn Map, with the corner lot to the north empty. A building permit dated January 11, 1910,
provides for moving 606 S. Coronado to 283 S. Coronado, where it appears to remain today.

The building at 600 S. Coronado also occupied the former site of 606 and stood from 1910-59. Below at upper left is 600 S. Coronado
on the 1950 Sanborn, on the SE corner of 6th Street:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psvxnszqc9.jpg

ProQuest via LA Public Library


Here's a fuzzy 1925 aerial with 600 S. Coronado at upper left:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...pskyolycfh.jpg

EXM-P-S-LOS-ANG-CIT-BUI-095 @ USC Digital Library


These next two photos are undated but I'd guess c. 1940. Here, 600 S. Coronado is below the dog and cat food ad:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psb7kfcrb1.jpg

DW-SD-93-23-112 @ USC Digital Library


This is the closest view of 600 S. Coronado I could find:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...pswurpfg6y.jpg

DW-SD-93-23-112 @ USC Digital Library

What I love about LA is that so many of the old buildings are still to be found! I took a look at the panoramic and there was Blasdell Arms, Olympic Hotel, Hotel Stratford, Park Wilshire, Westlake Theater. All still standing

ethereal_reality Sep 8, 2019 7:04 AM

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Moving into Park LaBrea, 1963.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/U59NdM.jpg
eBay

Down below, two Lyon Moving Vans and a snazzy car.

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ethereal_reality Sep 8, 2019 7:22 AM

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Two original slides of Hollywood at night, 1950s.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/xnAR6i.jpg
eBay

Looking north on Vine St. The recently discussed Taft Building is on the right. The iconic Capitol Records Building is in the distance.

The taxi cab is parked at the entrance to the Plaza Hotel. Across the street you can see the noirish Firefly Cocktail Lounge.






In this 2nd slide we're looking south on Vine St. The photographer might have been standing in front of the Vine St. Brown Derby.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/kulENm.jpg
eBay

Across the street you can see the Santa Fe Ticket Office and the American Broadcasting Company Theater....and..umm..Sy Davore....and at the end of the block, Wallichs Music City.

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ethereal_reality Sep 8, 2019 8:08 AM

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/WJUP92.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8680336)
“Chester Conklin is out on a beam atop the newly completed Guaranty Bldg at Hollywood Blvd and Ivar in Cleaning Up” (Paramount, 1930). We see the vertical of the Pantages on the left and the Music Box Theatre further down the street. The image appears on page 35 of the Arcadia Publishing book "Location Filming in Los Angeles" by Karie Bible, Marc Wanamaker and Harry Medved. The page with the photo is included in the books preview on Google Books.”

Thanks Scott Charles.


Cleaning Up is on Youtube. I sped through it (I'm not a big fan SLAPSTICK) and didn't see the sky scraping scene. :shrug:

Video Link


This particular copy of the film is silent with Italian subtitles.






As I said earlier...I didn't see the elusive skyscraper scene but I did see a few mystery locations.

Street corner #1

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/KIR5Gm.jpg



Same street corner (#1), with street sign.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/NbqP1L.jpg







Street location #2.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/v5p3OP.jpg

I'm intrigued by the building on the left. (house-like...with an awning)








Street scene #3. Impressive corner building.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/LZEZJk.jpg

This almost looks like a fake building.



Same street scene (#3), with a HUGE clue in the distance. (the building above..is on the right, below)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/3Z0IGx.jpg

But I'm not 100% sure which storage building that is in the distance.



Cleaning Up
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HossC Sep 8, 2019 8:34 AM

:previous:

The last two are the intersection of Willoughby and Highland. Both buildings mentioned are still standing.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...illoughby1.jpg
GSV

westcork Sep 8, 2019 3:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 8678871)
Greetings fellow Noirishers!

Well I went and did it, started my own blog.

With all the cool old structures in LA being felled left and right I thought I would document them as their demo permits got pulled.

Sooooo here I am using this platform to shamelessly plug my new venture, but only 'cuz I figure some of y'all might dig it. Give it a look-see: R.I.P. Los Angeles

I saw this when you posted on Reddit. And then I came over here looking for 154 South Occidental Blvd. I could swear there was a post on that house about a year or two ago. But I couldn't find anything.

HossC Sep 8, 2019 6:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8680953)

Street location #2.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/v5p3OP.jpg

I'm intrigued by the building on the left. (house-like...with an awning)

The filming locations on IMDb include Melrose and Heliotrope Avenue. I think I can see Ben Valle Co (grocers) in the background of one of the shots, and the 1932 CD lists a branch at 4315 Melrose. This appears to be e_r's "house-like" building, which still stands at 707 N Heliotrope Drive.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...eliotrope1.jpg
GSV

odinthor Sep 8, 2019 8:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8677324)
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It seems in keeping with Noirishness to look a moment into the demise of Mr. John T. Harris, "Successor to Schepps & Harris" (but not for very long . . . ):

https://i.postimg.cc/sX3rXW7c/John-THarris2-14-12.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/DySK8nJt/Harris2-20-12.jpg
both images from L.A. Times (dates as given in the images) via ProQuest via CSULB Library. Layout of articles rearranged for your viewing pleasure.

Does it strike me as interesting that "a young man, who works as an accountant at the club, was at work in Harris' room from 8 o'clock until 11 yesterday morning. He says he heard Harris snore. Manager Witt says that he does not know the name of this young man"? Nope, nothing odd at all about any of that. Company accountants in social clubs frequently do their best work in the rooms of guests of the establishment; and how can managers be expected to know the names of office employees? And I'm certain that the fact that this was the night before Valentine's Day is a mere happenstance. Fie on anyone who would see anything out of the ordinary in any of this!

Kidding aside, sorry, Mr. Harris, you had to live a life of personal and social challenges, with such an end.

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A little more on the interesting Mr. Harris. Mention of his having been an actor in the troupe of Frederick Warde led me to do a little digging. Mr. Warde was a quite well-known actor, with a traveling company; there's an early film (extant) with him as Richard III in Shakespeare's drama of the same name.

I find Harris with Warde's company in October, 1901:

https://i.postimg.cc/5NBc8skC/Harris10-20-01-Her.jpg
LA Herald 10/20/1901

and in Hawaii with Warde in May 1902:

https://i.postimg.cc/9ffv5CXd/Harris...aiian-Star.jpg
Hawaiian Star 5/15/1902

Interestingly enough, a very young and inexperienced Douglas Fairbanks (Sr.) was with the Warde troupe about this time; quoting from Wikipedia's entry on Fairbanks: "[Fairbanks was] beginning a cross country tour [with Warde] in September 1899. He toured with Warde for two seasons, functioning in dual roles, both as actor and as the assistant stage manager in his second year with the group." Harris's and Fairbanks' time in the Warde company thus could have overlapped at the end of F.'s tenure (or, if not, very nearly).

Noir_Noir Sep 9, 2019 2:43 PM

:previous:



Yes! John T. Harris was an interesting man - Shakespearian actor, jewelry store owner ... and Beauty Doctor.


Note the names Mrs. Mary Ella Harris (his mother) and Mrs. Kathryn Hare (sister) from the funeral notice above.


https://i.imgur.com/JYx8mww.jpg
cdnc.ucr.edu - Los Angeles Herald - 22 September 1907



John T. himself is at the helm in 1908.


https://i.imgur.com/4XUBy85.jpg
cdnc.ucr.edu - Los Angeles Herald - 26 April 1908


https://i.imgur.com/CK8mSGq.jpg
cdnc.ucr.edu - Los Angeles Herald - 26 March 1908


This case was seemingly dismissed when Mrs. Rutherford failed to appear for a later hearing.



John T. deserved a nice break after all that. Off to the delights of Europe for six months ... or maybe twelve.


https://i.imgur.com/PfGcKHP.jpg
cdnc.ucr.edu - Los Angeles Herald - 20 September 1908




He's back to the beauty doctoring business by early 1909 though ... and still having to prove himself in court.

https://i.imgur.com/0mH2D45.jpg
cdnc.ucr.edu - Los Angeles Herald - 21 February 1909



He must have decided the jewelry business was a much more hassle-free option soon after. Perhaps not as things transpired. :shrug:

ethereal_reality Sep 9, 2019 6:11 PM

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/v5p3OP.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8681156)
The filming locations on IMDb include Melrose and Heliotrope Avenue. I think I can see Ben Valle Co (grocers) in the background of one of the shots, and the 1932 CD lists a branch at 4315 Melrose. This appears to be e_r's "house-like" building, which still stands at 707 N Heliotrope Drive.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...eliotrope1.jpg
GSV

:previous: Hoss, thanks for finding the two buildings that appeared in the Chester Conklin movie, Cleaning Up. (1930)

This morning I snooped around the little bungalow on Heliotrope.


Here it is in 2007.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Ah299E.jpg
GSV.

I couldn't help but notice the little rectangular building on the right that looks like it belongs in a frontier town.







And again in 2011.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/HdHQWW.jpg
GSV.

What's up with the cheap looking roof? It looks like it was put on in one sheet....like linoleum on a floor. (it looks even worse in Hoss' photo)



I tried to find the building permits for both buildings without success. (the 'frontier' building is 713)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/T7EfuG.jpg
GSV 2011







Gin and Tonics at the Zebra Room for anyone who can decipher the sign.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/tmJohu.jpg
DETAIL

UCK...............................................................................................................................................................................................................


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ethereal_reality Sep 9, 2019 6:48 PM

Today's mystery location. Straight from Germany.

"Aus einer Tanzschule in Los Angeles!
Die kleinen Tanzgirls während einer Uebungsstunde im Freien."
Dating: August 1929

"From a dance school in Los Angeles.
The little dancing girls during an exercise lesson outdoors."
Date: August, 1929

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/RxOcPb.jpg
bild.bundesarchiv.de....................................................................................................................................................................................................Sorry if we have seen this before.

Where was/is this wide open expanse?

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ethereal_reality Sep 9, 2019 7:30 PM

This is interesting as well.

At 3:51 in this 10 minute video...you see the arrival at LAX of Kennedy and Stevenson for the 1960 Democratic Convention. (This was a mere 16 days after I was born!)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/6qLukw.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/lZOfmT.jpg

Click here > filmothek



I am trying to figure out who this is at 4:13.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/SkyaCS.jpg

He's making an introduction and has a Massachusetts accent. (but I don't recognize him)


Oh..and watch for Eleanor Roosevelt at the 4:08 mark. :)

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HossC Sep 9, 2019 7:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8682020)

Gin and Tonics at the Zebra Room for anyone who can decipher the sign.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/tmJohu.jpg
DETAIL

UCK

I was going to say that I found the answer by pure luck, but I think the answer is "Pure Luck"!

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...APureLuck1.jpg
https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...APureLuck2.jpg
archives.quarrygirl.com

GaylordWilshire Sep 9, 2019 8:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8682125)
This is interesting as well.

At 3:51 in this 10 minute video...you see the arrival at LAX of Kennedy and Stevenson for the 1960 Democratic Convention. (This was a mere 16 days after I was born!)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/6qLukw.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/lZOfmT.jpg

Click here > filmothek

I am trying to figure out who this is at 4:13.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/SkyaCS.jpg

He's making an introduction and has a Massachusetts accent. (but I don't recognize him)

Oh..and watch for Eleanor Roosevelt at the 4:08 mark. :)

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I don't know who that fellow is-- looks vaguely familiar--but here is native Angeleno Adlai Stevenson's birthplace--2439 Monmouth Ave. (Maybe we've seen it here before....)

https://i.postimg.cc/sXdjHz8q/adlai2ut-bmp.jpg

Godzilla Sep 9, 2019 8:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8682125)

Click here > filmothek



I am trying to figure out who this is at 4:13.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/SkyaCS.jpg

He's making an introduction and has a Massachusetts accent. (but I don't recognize him)
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:previous: US Senator from Idaho, Frank Church.




"Waiting on Wilshire."

https://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...DMX=0&DMY=0&DMhttps://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...X=512&DMY=0&DMhttps://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...X=0&DMY=512&DMhttps://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...512&DMY=512&DM
https://tessa.lapl.org/cdm/singleite...hotos/id/36997






1939 - Making good time on Wilshire (looking East from Rossmore)

https://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...DMX=0&DMY=0&DMhttps://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...X=512&DMY=0&DM
https://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...X=0&DMY=512&DMhttps://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...512&DMY=512&DM
https://tessa.lapl.org/cdm/singleite...hotos/id/11448

CityBoyDoug Sep 10, 2019 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8676953)
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When a person thinks of cantilevered architecture most think of FLW's Fallingwater.


Few remember the cantilevered wing at the Huntington Hotel in Pasadena. [shown below]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/Z6oOWw.jpg

The Huntington Hotel and Swimming Pool, Pasadena California.






Seriously now:

Is it just me, or is this rppc creating an optical illusion?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/T7ZPdz.jpg
eBay


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https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/p...mming-pool.jpg
ebay

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...69gGUYq7d10Ly9

Still looking for the Olympic Pool. Maybe it was in a building or even underground. Who knows?

ethereal_reality Sep 10, 2019 11:59 AM

I'll help you search, CBD.

We'll get to the bottom of this. :drowning:
........................................................Blub. Blub.

ethereal_reality Sep 10, 2019 12:11 PM

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/SkyaCS.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 8682230)
:previous: US Senator from Idaho, Frank Church.

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Thanks Godzilla. I would have never figured it out.

He sounds like he has an east coast accent. I thought he might be a relative of the Kennedys.

CityBoyDoug Sep 10, 2019 1:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8682744)
I'll help you search, CBD.

We'll get to the bottom of this. :drowning:
........................................................Blub. Blub.

We see the smaller hotel size pool but where O where is the big Olympic pool?

That would be a great help ER. Thanks for your kind offer.

Olympic Pools are located at universities and International sports sites, so this is really rare to have such a huge pool at a medium size hotel.

I believe there is an Olympic Pool near the Coliseum in Los Angeles but I'll have to check to be sure. Anyone know?

Noir_Noir Sep 10, 2019 6:05 PM

:previous:


I think the Huntington Hotel pool met the size specifications for the olympic sport of Aquatic Catwalking.

Here's the 1935 freestyle final with the ten finalists. Only four were allowed over the water at one time as per the rules.


https://i.imgur.com/cgNY4al.jpg
Original - historichotelsthenandnow.com


:tup:

Martin Pal Sep 10, 2019 6:12 PM

:previous:

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8682832)
I believe there is an Olympic Pool near the Coliseum in Los Angeles but I'll have to check to be sure. Anyone know?

This is the pool built for the 1932 Olympics. The Coliseum is upper right.

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EDIT: Had a computer malfunction when I posted this. See complete post: #52551

CityBoyDoug Sep 10, 2019 6:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8683104)
:previous:


I think the Huntington Hotel pool met the size specifications for the olympic sport of Aquatic Catwalking.

Here's the 1935 freestyle final with the ten finalists. Only four were allowed over the water at one time as per the rules.


https://i.imgur.com/cgNY4al.jpg
Original - historichotelsthenandnow.com


:tup:

I have to agree Noir Noir and your comment is hilarious. Yes, that day was quite the event. Fancy white table cloth luncheon poolside with the added attraction of an over-the-water fashion show.

Why didn't they do it at the Olympic pool? Like me, maybe they couldn't find it.

HossC Sep 10, 2019 8:12 PM

:previous:

Below is "then and now" comparison of the Huntington pool at the right of each image. The one on the left is from 1937. Google's measuring tool gives the current length of the pool as about 70ft (about 76ft to the semi-circle), which seems in keeping with the 78ft length of the adjacent tennis courts.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...ngtonPool1.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu/GSV

The 1928 aerial is a lot more blurry, but the pool doesn't appear any larger. I was just beginning to think that the Huntington never had an Olympic-sized pool when I found the following information in Langham's own guide. The reason it doesn't show up in aerials is because it went under the Picture Bridge. I notice they've used the same picture that was found by Noir_Noir. NB. The map is roughly upside-down. Highlighting is mine.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...ngtonPool2.jpg
www.langhamhotels.com (PDF file)

Now we just need a view looking under the bridge!


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