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procab Mar 12, 2013 9:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 6040680)
I had a slight reservation about the accompanying identification, but I am unfamiliar with the area. On the off-chance that the LAPL identification is somewhat correct, were there any outdoor boxing venues in the Santa Clarita area in the '20s-'30s?

The pictured venue has the earmarks of permanency, but maybe it was erected for a few events and dismantled.:shrug: Curiously, at least one source links Dempsey with Saugus, so perhaps this is more than just wishful thinking? http://www.katrinadoerner.com/watson.htm

http://www.katrinadoerner.com/14-Wat...mpsey-copy.jpghttp://www.katrinadoerner.com/watson.htm

Aerial view of Legion Ascot Speedway in 1925. The track was also used for horse racing and as a boxing arena.
This was located on the NE corner of Valley and Soto. Below is looking east. The hillsides to the south and SE look similar to the original pic.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K...0/00049284.jpg

Dempsey did make at least one appearance at the track. The first minute of this video shows him accepting a loving cup
and congratulating the winner of a race named in his honor.
Video Link

kznyc2k Mar 12, 2013 10:14 PM

Huh....BifRayRock's photos are all appearing as they should on my computer. But when it comes time for me to post some USC photos I circumvent the whole puzzle mess by taking a screenshot/capture/grab/whatever-you-want-to-call-it, thus creating a completely new document and then uploading it to my preferred hosting site, Imageshack. Also, who knows how long before USC decides to go and revamp their site again, in which case all the puzzle crap we're dealing with now will probably be for naught.

So I say do as I do and take screengrabs whenever possible....as long as the person who uploaded the images doesn't flat-out delete their account then the pictures will stay online in perpetuity.

MichaelRyerson Mar 12, 2013 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kznyc2k (Post 6048661)
Huh....BifRayRock's photos are all appearing as they should on my computer. But when it comes time for me to post some USC photos I circumvent the whole puzzle mess by taking a screenshot/capture/grab/whatever-you-want-to-call-it, thus creating a completely new document and then uploading it to my preferred hosting site, Imageshack. Also, who knows how long before USC decides to go and revamp their site again, in which case all the puzzle crap we're dealing with now will probably be for naught.

So I say do as I do and take screengrabs whenever possible....as long as the person who uploaded the images doesn't flat-out delete their account then the pictures will stay online in perpetuity.

As I have said before I cannot get the USC site to reproduce the fragmented image effect on my computer. When I am at the USC site, I find the image I'm interested in, copy the image title to my clipboard, then I 'load' the image into the 'print' window of the USC site and when it is up, I maximize the window, right click to get the 'save as' prompt, paste in the 'saved' title and hit save. Then it is a simple matter to upload the image from my photo file. etc.

kznyc2k Mar 12, 2013 11:02 PM

^ I see what you're doing, but I also see about three more steps to getting a new file than with my system. But no matter -- as long as it works!

JScott Mar 12, 2013 11:54 PM

I'm so frustrated by that new USC site.

Since the change, it's essentially been lost to me as a historical resource.

The search function used to be kind of clunky, but at least the 'search within results' worked, and I could eventually find what I was looking for. Now, I try to search within results, and nothing happens at all. It's just a dead link.

I wonder if their webmasters even bother to check the site's functionality with various browsers. Maybe everything works fine with IE, but I use Firefox, and with that browser, the USC site is just plain broken in almost every way.

The fragmented images don't bother me as much as my not being able to find what I'm looking for on that site in the first place. :(

Krell58 Mar 13, 2013 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 6046593)
1925 - NW Corner of Arlington Avenue and Washington Blvd.


http://images.citysearch.net/assets/.../4/6139554.JPG google


Unfettered
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0


Fettered
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0


Could do with a bit of chrome. Where is the nearest Western Auto Stores?

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0 All B&W images from USC Digital

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...qMD2UuBsfRnnxLgoogle


So, what company uses the chest with the crescent moon logo?

Flyingwedge Mar 13, 2013 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6047951)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8526/8...66bb1ee4_o.jpg
Liberty, George Stevens, 1929

Still from Liberty, a Hal Roach/Laurel&Hardy short (20 mins) from 1929 shot by George Stevens (Shane, Giant) and directed by Leo McCarey (Going My Way, Duck Soup). Here are the boys high above Culver City(?) in a deft piece of staging on a mock-up built atop an existing structure. (I don't believe this is Culver City. It may be the confluence of Main Street, Broadway and Broadway Place. The angle of the sun tells us we're looking south) Is that the 10-story Railway Building over there with the Studebaker sign on it? You know, where Frank Clarke would have flown his Curtiss Jenny about ten years ago. That would be 11th and Broadway, so that would confirm this being Broadway, Broadway Place and Main Street, right? Okay, look over there at Main Street. Where's the pedestrian island and, more to the point, where's our ornate entrance to the subterranean comfort station? Had they simply not been installed yet by 1929? Thoughts?

www.leinwand-lyrik.de/LHP/Presse_Fotos.html

According to Laurel and Hardy: The Magic Behind the Movies by Randy Skretvedt (Moonstone Press, 1987), this film was shot in late 1928
on a set built atop the Western Costume Company building, which the 1929 LA City Directory lists at 935 S. Broadway:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psd75fd948.jpg
The pedestrian island seems to match up between the two pictures.
LAPL (http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics08/00013683.jpg)

This film is the source of an often-told story about L&H: When Laurel became frightened working on the steel girders, Hardy, trying to assure his partner
that they were safe, jumped down onto the safety platform below . . . which collapsed. Luckily there was a safety net under the platform. The story was
recounted -- not entirely accurately -- by director Leo McCarey when L&H were on "This is Your Life" in December 1954. If you can stomach
Ralph Edwards' unctuousness, you can see the segment here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqNE1WaX2jY

ethereal_reality Mar 13, 2013 12:46 AM

Figueroa Street looking north near the vicinity of Sunset Boulevard circa 1950.

http://imageshack.us/a/img6/5664/aab...thonfiguer.jpg
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/tag/los-angeles/

I'm a bit confused by this photograph. The cars seem to literally disappear in the distance.
Is the Hollywood Freeway lurking just ahead devouring all this Figueroa traffic?

I am also surprised by the number of lanes on Figueroa. Five north and two south for the afternoon commute.
I didn't realize they were manipulating traffic lanes to such an extent back in 1950.
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Albany NY Mar 13, 2013 12:53 AM

An easy resolution (get it....resolution? Haha.)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6046666)
I don't know about the rest of you guys but the truncated pics are pretty much useless to me.

A lot of people seem to have a hard time with the "chopped" photos. I use the Opera web browser (free download). One nifty feature is a slide scale adjuster at the bottom of the screen. If a photo is chopped you just slide the adjuster in or out to make the pics look right. One touch and you are zoomed in or out to whatever scale you like. Easy peezee, lemon squeezee. Opera rocks!(Oh,my God, I never thought I'd hear myself say those words. What next....that Wayne Newton is cool?!?)

procab Mar 13, 2013 1:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6048937)
Figueroa Street looking north near the vicinity of Sunset Boulevard circa 1950.

http://imageshack.us/a/img6/5664/aab...thonfiguer.jpg
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/tag/los-angeles/

I'm a bit confused by this photograph. The cars seem to literally disappear in the distance.
Is the Hollywood Freeway lurking just ahead devouring all this Figueroa traffic?

I am also surprised by the number of lanes on Figueroa. Five north and two south for the afternoon commute.
I didn't realize they were manipulating traffic lanes to such an extent back in 1950.
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They disappear at the intersection with Glendale Blvd where most of the traffic turns left. The intersection is in a dip and unseen.

ethereal_reality Mar 13, 2013 1:43 AM

thanks procab...I didn't even consider Glendale Boulevard.
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ethereal_reality Mar 13, 2013 2:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5766308)


Here are a couple more photographs of the Graf Zeppelin in Los Angeles.

http://imageshack.us/a/img826/2388/aabgrafzepinla.jpg
ebay






http://imageshack.us/a/img805/1139/a...losangeles.jpg
ebay




I posted this image of the Graf Zeppelin in flight way back on page four of the thread. I thought it would be fun to see it again.

http://imageshack.us/a/img96/5388/aa...eimertpark.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img703/2664/aabgrafoverl2.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...6&postcount=73
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Chuckaluck Mar 13, 2013 2:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6048380)
...just to demonstrate a point (no offense Chuckaluck)

compare to this...

Criminy. I was ready to post some enlargements until I read this.

No offense taken, ER. I had not realized my posts were goofy, since I have not had an issue viewing seamless enlargements, occasionally using the toggle approach. I think Albany is on to something but not necessarily a browser change*. Looking at your reposted example, in my normal screen I see four disjointed images. Toggle-zoom, in Firefox or IE, and the images come together, although there is a slight seam. Returning to my so-called original, it looks fine - ahem - to me. Obviously there is an incompatibility issue for those of us attempting to rediscover images from the original site and share the finds here.

“Screen capture” seems workable enough yet I have had my share of hiccups trying to assemble highly magnified images. I am afraid to suggest this but maybe it is just a simple case of not having an enormous monitor and/or major league video processing hardware, because, in my experience, different computers yield different results. To test my theory, find an image on the SC site and enlarge it to the max using the site's zoom feature. Then try viewing the super-enlarged image by zooming out as far as you can using your computer. You may find that the site's enlarged image exceeds your computer's screen resolution capability. It does on mine. This may be the reason some can simply capture highly magnified images and other’s can’t.

I submit the capture-posting problems are transitory and will be corrected as technology moves forward. I also think there will come a time when we all wish the images were much much larger. In the meantime, I like the idea of posting the original image, even in its microscopic size, along with any enlargements. If someone is unable to view the zoomed image, they might try independently translating and then reposting it.

Sadly, many of the original images from the source site have disappeared since its transition a few months ago. Trying to find these seemingly familiar pictures can be even more vexing than finding an improved larger version and being unable to share the discovery . . . . .



*Maybe Gort is responsible. Klaatu barada . . . . .


October 2, 1950 - "Harry M. Warner holds declaration for "Crusade for Freedom" for actor Burt Lancaster [wearing his Carlisle letterman's sweater] to sign at a mass studio meeting, while [the late] Patricia Neal [wearing her Operation Pacific costume] waits to also sign."
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00082/00082911.jpgLapl

unihikid Mar 13, 2013 2:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Krell58 (Post 6048865)
So, what company uses the chest with the crescent moon logo?

Everyone on my dads side of the family remember this as the local skating rink...maybe they were thinking of a different upstairs location...but this is pretty much right next door to the library that we talked about 30 or so pages back.

ethereal_reality Mar 13, 2013 2:53 AM

conundrum:

Let me get this straight Chuckaluck, the image you posted looks fine to you while others see the disjointed images?

I had no idea.
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westcork Mar 13, 2013 3:10 AM

Pacific Electric Station in Pasadena
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/7...icelectric.jpg
USC

I wish I could get a full size copy of that image

FredH Mar 13, 2013 3:22 AM

Collapse of the St. Francis Dam
 
Today is the 85th anniversary of the collapse of the St. Francis dam, which killed over 450 people and ruined the career of William Mulholland. The L.A. Times ran a terrific photo essay in today's edition. Here are a sample of the photos:

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4580/capturemlmw.jpg
L.A. Times

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/4042/capture1otz.jpg
L.A. Times

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3873/capture5u.jpg
L.A. Times

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/7456/capture2wx.jpg
L.A. Times

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/1203/capture3xt.jpg
L.A. Times

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/753/capture4gi.jpg
L.A. Times


There are a bunch more pictures and a complete story of the event here:

http://framework.latimes.com/2013/03...m-collapse/#/0

Note: If you place your cursor on the center right edge of the photos, you can click to the following photo

Chuckaluck Mar 13, 2013 3:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Krell58 (Post 6048865)
So, what company uses the chest with the crescent moon logo?

Got milk?

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0

Crescent Milk from Crescent Creamery, on Slauson Avenue. (The enlarged images look fine to me ;))


Circa 1924
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics25/00047113.jpgLapl


Circa 1926
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics25/00047057.jpg
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics25/00047085.jpg Lapl

FredH Mar 13, 2013 3:52 AM

The Pacific Electric Red Line
 
The L.A. Times also ran a nice photo gallery of the Pacific Electric Red Line today. Here are some that (hopefully) we have not seen.

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7338/capturebx.jpg
L.A. Times

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1135/capture1ey.jpg
L.A. Times

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3930/capture2ov.jpg
L.A. Times

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3886/capture3lc.jpg
L.A. Times

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1364/capture4l.jpg
L.A. Times

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6168/capture5i.jpg
L.A. Times


The link to the article is here:

http://framework.latimes.com/2013/03...c-red-cars/#/0

Chuckaluck Mar 13, 2013 3:54 AM

Three more creameries courtesy of the LAPL. (Notable omissions include Adohr and Jersey Farm.)

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00097/00097083.jpg


1905 - Pacific Creamery Co. produced "Lily" cream.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics31/00065286.jpg





Burr Creamery - circa '24

Farm was located at "Hobart Station" in East LA (?)
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics24/00046940.jpg

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics24/00046944.jpg

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics24/00046931.jpg

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics24/00046941.jpg




and Los Angeles Creamery, circa '24
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics24/00046956.jpg

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics24/00046955.jpg

LA Creamery, circa '39
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics32/00065816.jpg


All from easily viewable Lapl:tup:


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