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ethereal_reality Oct 4, 2017 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7942010)
Aaron Schultz's Uptown Store was at 4321 Atlantic Avenue. The building is still standing, and the most recent tenant also sold furniture.

ethereal_reality
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/Pk4YiX.jpg
ebay


The image below is from 2011 because I wanted the trees without leaves, but the current view is virtually identical.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...onSchultz1.jpg
GSV

CBD & Hoss, thanks so much for locating the buildings in the 1949 slides. I am amazing by how well they still look.
I thought the Laff's Baby Shop was one large building (with the camera shop in the right half) until I saw your google street view Hoss.
Boy was I surprised!

The Aaron Schultz building (shown above) came very close to being demolished.

"The Expo Arts Center was originally Aaron Schultz & Sons Furniture Inc. in 1947.
Over time several different companies did business in the space from Silo Electronics and Circuit City
and back to furniture as Expo Furniture. In 2008 the Redevelopment Agency (RDA) for the City of Long Beach
began the process of purchasing the property from the family trust that owned it at the time.
The RDA had the intention of demolishing the 27,000 sq. ft. building and then selling the land to a developer.
Former 8th District Councilmember Rae Gabelich and the Bixby Knolls Business Improvement Association (BKBIA)
fought to keep the building and turn it into an arts and culture space for the Bixby Knolls and North Long Beach areas of the city.
"

from Expo Arts Center

So glad it was saved.
_

ethereal_reality Oct 4, 2017 11:19 PM

re: 1923 Maravilla Handball Court 'mystery' pic.
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7942722)
The 1921 Baist shows very little across the street from the brewery, although one building in roughly the right location is marked "Hair Facty".

Hair Factory as opposed to, say, a Wig Factory?

those baist guys and their jokes. ;)
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GaylordWilshire Oct 4, 2017 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7942724)
I recently found the program for the Picture Player Camera Men's Ball, which was held on January 16, 1914. The location
was Rutherford's Hall, but I couldn't determine where that was (probably downtown LA somewhere):

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...0.jpg~original


Rutherford's was at 1024 S Grand...thought we might have seen it on NLA before, but I couldn't find it in a cursory check....

Flyingwedge Oct 5, 2017 12:35 AM

:previous:

Thanks, GW.

sopas ej Oct 5, 2017 1:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7942722)
The second picture posted by e_r shows the Los Angeles (aka Eastside) Brewing Company, which was on N Main Street (east of the river). Some of the buildings are still there. It appears to be the location of the 1923 picture. I posted a much larger version of the 1949 picture below in post #21700.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...CoPanorama.jpg
USC Digital Library

The 1921 Baist shows very little across the street from the brewery, although one building in roughly the right location is marked "Hair Facty".

Ah thanks, so mystery solved (?). At least in terms of location.

Here's the area today courtesy of Google Street View:
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...fb&oe=5A7D60F9

GaylordWilshire Oct 5, 2017 1:54 PM

More on Rutherford's Hall:



LAHerald Feb 22, 1913 & March 15,1920 / LATimes Oct 5, 1924

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/C1...4=w342-h445-nohttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/AD...c=w329-h459-nohttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/l3...4=w290-h427-no



The building lasted exactly a century-- the "new" BP was issued on January 22, 1913...the demo permit on April 11, 2013


Baist 1914
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/NZ...I=w583-h460-no



from the demo permit:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/SO...4=w747-h567-no



July 2012 and Feb 2017:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nB...o=w809-h550-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/xv...Q=w810-h642-no

Martin Pal Oct 5, 2017 5:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7942724)
Have you ever heard of Harold Lockwood?


I've heard of Don Lockwood.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NLUIztLrSiY/hqdefault.jpg

The link says that Harold Lockwood and May Allison appeared in over twenty-three films together and became one of the first celebrated on-screen romantic duos. Lockwood and Allison were long rumored to have been romantically involved off-screen, though both denied it.

Perhaps that's why the Singin' in the Rain writers (Comden and Green) chose to use the name for Gene Kelly's character.

sopas ej Oct 5, 2017 6:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7943460)

I'll never watch that Lockwood and Lamont again.

HossC Oct 5, 2017 6:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7942733)

Hair Factory as opposed to, say, a Wig Factory?

those baist guys and their jokes. ;)

You sound incredulous, e_r, so here's the 1921 Baist map showing the hair factory.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

The City Directories are working again at the moment, so I looked it up. Robert Miller's hair factory is listed at 525 S Avenue 20 in the 1921 CD. It's under the heading "Hair Manufacturers" (not wigs). There were five others that year.

Earl Boebert Oct 5, 2017 7:20 PM

After I bit of searching, I conclude that the term "hair factory" probably refers to the processing of human hair and the selling of it in bulk to wig manufacturers.

Having women sell their hair was evidently fairly common up until the flapper period, as evinced by the O. Henry story "The Gift of the Magi."

Cheers,

Earl

CityBoyDoug Oct 6, 2017 2:38 AM

PlayStation noir art

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1280_.jpg
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1280_.jpg

Rock Star Games noir art

http://media.rockstargames.com/rocks...uckystrike.jpg
http://media.rockstargames.com/rocks...uckystrike.jpg

ethereal_reality Oct 6, 2017 2:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7943525)
You sound incredulous, e_r, so here's the 1921 Baist map showing the hair factory.

I totally believed you Hoss, I just thought 'hair factory' sounded rather humorous.

I was only able to find one "hair factory" listed in the L.A. city directories. (1891 & 1892)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/UBvJC1.jpg
lapl

The only Walnut Street I can find is in Pasadena and as far as I can figure out Kuhrts has disappeared all together.

proprietor's home address (also on Walnut)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/qNtT8K.jpg
lapl

There wasn't a hair factory in the 1921 directory (the year of your baist map), but I found four wig makers (none at the address shown on the baist)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/SaHTD6.jpg
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That said, it appears the handball court might have been to the left of the 'garage' on the baist. (circled below)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/AFiCSN.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/dHfuii.png
AMOEBLOG

Am I even close? :shrug:
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unihikid Oct 6, 2017 4:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 7942711)
Culver City's first dedicated City Hall was originally constructed in 1928. (9770 Culver Blvd., at the corner of Duquesne Ave.) A 3/4 replica of the 1928 city hall's front at its entry opens onto Heritage Park, which occupies the old City Hall footprint. It met its demise in the early 1990s. Was it deconstructed due to quake damage or was it merely that the city outgrew it? :shrug: Are there any images of its interior?





Undated construction
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics32/00035815.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/pics32/00035815.jpg


1937
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00097/00097695.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00097/00097695.jpg


1969
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...0&DMY=0&DMTEXThttp://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...2&DMY=0&DMTEXT
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...DMY=512&DMTEXThttp://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...DMY=512&DMTEXT http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...3coll2/id/7009



http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...2&DMY=0&DMTEXThttp://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...4&DMY=0&DMTEXT
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...DMY=512&DMTEXThttp://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...DMY=512&DMTEXT




1969
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...0&DMY=0&DMTEXThttp://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...2&DMY=0&DMTEXT
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...DMY=512&DMTEXThttp://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...DMY=512&DMTEXThttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/70097

You know its weird i remember a lot about old Culver City, my parents would go to our butcher (Victors Meat Market),then we would go to Vons nearby, and then we would always and i mean always go to Hughes Market for canned goods...take Culver Bl or Washington Bl back to Venice and then end the day either at Antique Alley at Helms or go west to Ships...but for the life of me i don't ever remember the city hall, i remember when they put up the tribute, but not the building (mom liked the real tiny Trader Joe's off Washington)... I want to say they put up the tribute around 1996 or so. Come to think about it, CC was kinda seedy circa 1984-1998 so maybe that's why i cant remember it. :shrug:

ethereal_reality Oct 6, 2017 4:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

Oh my
http://imageshack.com/a/img922/7239/QyHe8I.gif
















from his high school yearbook (?)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/BUPfbu.jpg
Elmer Clifton






A mature and pensive Elmer.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/KqDegA.jpg
silence is platinum [no date]




Dramatic Elmer.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/2ISo9T.jpg
silence is platinum




and finally, directing Elmer.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/enIUrC.jpg
silence is platinum

That's supposedly Dorothy Gish :shrug:
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"The last film directed was 1949's Not Wanted. It was finished by the film's star Ida Lupino
after Elmer suffered a heart attack during production. Elmer Clifton passed away on October 15, 1949
in Los Angeles from a cerebral hemorrhage. He was buried at Forest Lawn in Glendale.
"



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/P6y3UL.jpg
find a grave

Flyingwedge Oct 6, 2017 6:47 AM

More Hotel Darby @ 234 W. Adams
 
I posted about the Hotel Darby a while back, but I recently found a couple more related photos.

This photo is undated but shows a bit of 240 W. Adams to the right of the Darby and 226 W. Adams on the left:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...q.jpg~original

Islandora/UCLA


This enlargement shows 226. The white letters over the entrance, partially hidden by palm fronds, say DARBY ANNEX:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...x.jpg~original


Before Wesley Clark built the Hotel Darby at 234 W. Adams in 1909, it had been the site of his home:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...t.jpg~original

1894 LA City Directory @ fold3.com


Here is an undated photo of 234 W. Adams, with the west side of 226 on the left:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...l.jpg~original

December 1894 Land of Sunshine @ HathiTrust

HossC Oct 6, 2017 8:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7944138)

I was only able to find one "hair factory" listed in the L.A. city directories. (1891 & 1892)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/UBvJC1.jpg
lapl

The only Walnut Street I can find is in Pasadena and as far as I can figure out Kuhrts has disappeared all together.

proprietor's home address (also on Walnut)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/qNtT8K.jpg
lapl

Using the recent link you posted to street name changes in East LA, I found that Kuhrts ran from from the LA River to Mission Road, but was renamed Main Street (it was named after grocer/County Coroner/Fire Chief Jacob Kuhrts). Walnut Street was the old name for Avenue 20. That means that Robert Miller's residential address at 525 South Walnut became his factory address of 525 S Avenue 20 by 1921.

I checked the 1910 Baist, and although it shows a building with the same size and location as the hair factory, there's no label.

Tourmaline Oct 6, 2017 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7944244)



Separated at birth :previous:? ;)


http://www.vinylvendors.com/Pictures...dale432019.jpghttp://www.vinylvendors.com/Pictures...dale432019.jpg




https://imageshack.com/i/pnKqDegAjhttps://imageshack.com/i/pnKqDegAj


http://winkmartindale.org/wp-content...le-ySuit-7.jpghttp://winkmartindale.org/wp-content...le-ySuit-7.jpg






Wink, Wink, ;)
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110830184931https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110830184931

Tourmaline Oct 6, 2017 12:59 PM

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[1923]Photograph (engineering notebook photoprint) of central wig wag located on 1st Avenue, Arcadia, Los Angeles County, at intersection A.T. & Sante Fe Railway. http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...9coll59/id/433

Wonder if this could be at or near the light rail tracks at Santa Clara Ave.? Upper right in second image appears to have a lookout tower of some sort. Note the wire or cable tethered to it. :shrug:


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...0&DMY=0&DMTEXThttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...2&DMY=0&DMTEXT
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...DMY=512&DMTEXThttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...DMY=512&DMTEXT




http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...DMY=512&DMTEXThttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...DMY=512&DMTEXT
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...MY=1024&DMTEXThttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...MY=1024&DMTEXT

Tourmaline Oct 6, 2017 1:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 5751799)
This photo taken by my Grandmother about 1915 in front of their store - "Hastings' Place" at the corner of Vermont Avenue and Hollywood Blvd. at the eastern end of the Southern Pacific Red Car line. Every Sunday, the merchants of East Hollywood would gather at my Grandfather's store with their autos, and give visitors to the area a ride to Griffith Park for 10 cents each - see sign in windshields of autos. Good for business and commerce in the area.


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7...dd69c784_h.jpg
[URL="http://www.ebay.com/itm/c1915-FORD-TOURING-CARS-at-HASTINGS-PLACE-E-HOLLYWOOD-GRIFFITH-PARK-TAXIS-/180890001815?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item2a1de26197"]here[/B].]


This photo taken by my Grandmother or Grandfather about 1917 in front of their store - "Hastings' Place" at the corner of Vermont Avenue and Hollywood Blvd. at the eastern end of the Southern Pacific Red Car line.


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7257/7...fcb3607e_b.jpg
[source: eBay]


This photo taken by my Grandmother or Grandfather about 1917 in front of their store - "Hastings' Place" at the corner of Vermont Avenue and Hollywood Blvd. at the eastern end of the Southern Pacific Red Car line.


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7268/7...d7a91b52_h.jpg
here[/B].]





Similar direction :previous:, some six years later (1923). http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...9coll59/id/405
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...DMY=512&DMTEXThttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...DMY=512&DMTEXT
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...MY=1024&DMTEXThttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...MY=1024&DMTEXT





Quote:

Intersection at Vermont and Hollywood Boulevard showing Pacific Electric safety zone and parking space, Los Angeles, 1923
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...0&DMY=0&DMTEXThttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...2&DMY=0&DMTEXT
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...DMY=512&DMTEXThttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...DMY=512&DMTEXThttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...9coll59/id/405

GaylordWilshire Oct 6, 2017 5:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7944296)
Before Wesley Clark built the Hotel Darby at 234 W. Adams in 1909, it had been the site of his home:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...t.jpg~original

1894 LA City Directory @ fold3.com


Here is an undated photo of 234 W. Adams, with the west side of 226 on the left:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...l.jpg~original

December 1894 Land of Sunshine @ HathiTrust


Clark moved 234 a block west to 340 W Adams after being issued a permit to do so on July 13, 1909; he retained ownership of
the house as what appears to be the first annex to the Darby, a residence for hotel workers. #226 would also became an
annex of the Darby...more on that and the hotel here.

234/340 was by the mid-'50s the Myrtle Pyle [great name] Guest Home for the Aged. Not sure when it was demolished.




Plus a little tangential noir (LAT, Oct 30, 1918)...


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/94...0=w437-h647-no


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