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ethereal_reality Nov 11, 2015 3:16 AM

:previous: amazing photograph sopas. it's so serene. -a total of three automobiles...five, if you count the two a mile away.




"1950s 35MM Kodachrome Slide - Cars Parked on Santa Monica Street"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...910/X53Zrk.jpg
eBay

The deco/streamline apartment building looks familiar but I can't quite place it.



below: I was hoping to gain more information from the Apt. sign, but the lettering is just too small

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/Y0asU4.jpg


you can view the slide here:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Orig-1950s-35...cAAOSw14xWN~yL

oldstuff Nov 11, 2015 3:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7230758)
:previous: Any idea what that white pot is in the lower right corner? (I thought it might be a spittoon, but it doesn't have that classic spittoon shape)

...and it looks like there are tiny little stairs leading up to it. ;)
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Welcome to "noirish Los Angeles" Roy W.

What appears to be tiny stairs is actually an optical illusion. It is a mosaic pattern on the floor of the entry way to the building. I did think the same thing initially as it looked sort of like an Aztec pyramid with a dog dish on top.

oldstuff Nov 11, 2015 3:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7230868)
The 1894 LA City Directory is the only one to show your ancestor as the proprietor of the Exchange Saloon:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...i.jpg~original

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...q.jpg~original
(Both) 1894 LA City Directory @ fold3.com

In the 1895 LA City Directory, T. A. Jones is listed as the proprietor of the Exchange Saloon. By 1896 the proprietor
is that Jerrue guy HossC mentioned.

If your Hugh McCrum is the one born in August of 1835, he appears back in San Francisco in the 1900 census. Listed with him is his wife Helen and an Adelaide Jensen, noted to be a guest at the time the census was taken on June 7, 1900. He is listed in that census as a liquor dealer.

An earlier census, taken in 1870 shows him as a liquor dealer in Virginia City, Nevada. This was a mining town and was on the downward slide by 1870, having peaked in the mid 1860's. That census notes him as a liquor dealer there as well.

The voter registrations in 1880 show him in San Francisco as a liquor dealer. That registration shows him at 301 Turk, San Francisco.

Roy W Nov 11, 2015 5:07 PM

Yes `oldstuff` thats the one, been trying to hunt down info like that the last couple of years!! In fact i found online a 1860 census from Pine Grove Township No?, Sierra county, where Hugh is 23 and listed as a `Miner`. Wiki describes Pine Grove then as a `gold Camp`. I`m guessing at this time he may have struck it rich there?? The only thing i`m really missing is a photograph of the old guy. He`s mentioned quite regularly in those old digitized newspapers of the time that are online particularly the Arizona and California ones, and you`d think with the mining and liquor circles he walked in there`d be a photo about somewhere.
By the way he married Helen in the First Congregational Church, Los Angeles in 1895.

tovangar2 Nov 11, 2015 5:25 PM

First Congrgational Church, Los Angeles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy W (Post 7231498)
By the way he married Helen in the First Congregational Church, Los Angeles in 1895.

First Congregational Church (built 1883), NE corner 3rd and Hill (diagonally across from the future site of Angels Flight):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7...6%252520AM.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F..._(CHS-491).jpg

The church was sold to the Baptists in 1889 who sold it to the Unitarians ca 1892. They moved it, in about 1900, to 925 S Flower St. Now demolished.

oldstuff Nov 11, 2015 6:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbpjr (Post 7230864)
Looking for photos of the Dickens Street school in Sherman Oaks...attended there around 1946...not sure it is still there...

It appears that at least some of the buildings are still there. The School is apparently now Sherman Oaks Charter Elementary. It says that it was started in 1924. The address has changed from Dickens Street to Greenleaf on the other side. I don't find any pictures online either

oldstuff Nov 11, 2015 6:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy W (Post 7231498)
Yes `oldstuff` thats the one, been trying to hunt down info like that the last couple of years!! In fact i found online a 1860 census from Pine Grove Township No?, Sierra county, where Hugh is 23 and listed as a `Miner`. Wiki describes Pine Grove then as a `gold Camp`. I`m guessing at this time he may have struck it rich there?? The only thing i`m really missing is a photograph of the old guy. He`s mentioned quite regularly in those old digitized newspapers of the time that are online particularly the Arizona and California ones, and you`d think with the mining and liquor circles he walked in there`d be a photo about somewhere.
By the way he married Helen in the First Congregational Church, Los Angeles in 1895.

There are online pictures of the First Congregational Church, which is said to be the oldest Protestant church in Los Angeles. The pictures show both outside and inside.

HossC Nov 11, 2015 6:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbpjr (Post 7230864)

Looking for photos of the Dickens Street school in Sherman Oaks...attended there around 1946...not sure it is still there...

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 7231558)

It appears that at least some of the buildings are still there. The School is apparently now Sherman Oaks Charter Elementary. It says that it was started in 1924. The address has changed from Dickens Street to Greenleaf on the other side. I don't find any pictures online either

I could only find the Dickens Street School in the 1937-1938 San Fernando Valley City Directory. It's listed at 14726 Dickens Street with Earl R Swaim as principal. I haven't found any ground-based pictures yet, but here are some aerials to show the evolution of the site. The first is from 1947, so should represent the layout at the time that rbpjr attended. It looks like the largest building faced Dickens Street. The lower street is Greenleaf Street.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

The 1952 image shows some extra buildings on the site.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

I think the original Dickens Street building is still there on this 1972 image.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

The site looks quite empty in 1980. The 1977 image is actually very similar, but not as clear.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

A few buildings have been added since 1980, but there's still a large playground through the middle of the site. As mentioned by oldstuff, Sherman Oaks Elementary Charter is the only school that's there now. You can find their website here.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original
Google Maps

Here's a view of Dickens Street where the original school once stood.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original
GSV

HossC Nov 11, 2015 8:29 PM

We're going south for today's Julius Shulman photoset. This is Harbor Savings and Loan in San Pedro. It's "Job 3478: Young and Remington, Harbor Savings and Loan Association (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1963". There are three color images in the set, but apart from this first one, I preferred the black & white ones.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

The circular building featured full-height glass windows and stone walls.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

There was water around the sides to give the building a floating appearance.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

The exposed stone continued inside.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original

The central piece of stonework contained the safe.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original

A final look at the interior.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

Here's an article announcing the opening date of the branch from the November 1, 1961 edition of the Torrance Press. Note that the caption has the wrong address. The correct location of 2470 Western Avenue is in the body text.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...9.jpg~original
www.torranceca.gov

The building's still there, although it's lost some of its charm (as well as its surrounding water) over the years. The Mobil gas station seen in the Shulman pictures is also still there just to the south. I was amused to see that the article above was followed by a piece about Starbuck from Moby Dick - check out which famous coffee shop is now next door!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...0.jpg~original
GSV

GaylordWilshire Nov 11, 2015 9:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7230946)
"1920 Leonard B. Slosson Lawyer Los Angeles Home"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...633/vSDFti.jpg
eBay


The seller didn't include a street address, but I found Leonard B. Slosson listed in the 1923 city directory (below).

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...910/kRUGzv.jpg
lapl


Here's the house as it appears today.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...908/xFAcYQ.jpg
gsv

The home was built in 1917. It features 4 bedrooms and 4 baths.
I wasn't able to find the name of the architect.


Also seen in this old post--
5697--- but more importantly, the architect was Arthur R. Kelly

Slosson died in the house on June 4, 1946

CityBoyDoug Nov 12, 2015 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7231737)
We're going south for today's Julius Shulman photoset. This is Harbor Savings and Loan in San Pedro. It's "Job 3478: Young and Remington, Harbor Savings and Loan Association (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1963". There are three color images in the set, but apart from this first one, I preferred the black & white ones.


http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...0.jpg~original
GSV


In my opinion the building has not lost some of its charms. Its lost all of its charm.
:(

ethereal_reality Nov 12, 2015 1:28 AM

:previous: I agree, it's such a shame. ! want the moat back. ;)

originally posted by HossC
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...905/6rZIqx.jpg

:previous: Place this on a 500 ft pedestal and it would be the Jetsons all over again.
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and while we're looking at round buildings...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...907/RXQDkv.jpg
http://www.paulrwilliamsproject.org/...l-pasadena-ca/

"The proposed $2,750,000 Arroyo motor Hotel seen in this 1960 drawing would have been a strikingly modern addition to Pasadena. The project proposed by Hawkins Petroleum, by Paul Williams and associates included 180 units, a private "mens only" Executive Club with individual suites and a heliport (L.A. Times, Dec. 4, 1960) The planned hotel featured a dramatic courtyard dominated by an elevated circular platform housing a restaurant and dining room. The developer, Hawkins Petroleum, was known for it's diverse investment portfolios. The project was not realized."

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ethereal_reality Nov 12, 2015 2:25 AM

Here's an amazing photograph I recently found on eBay. (what clarity!)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...907/dN09Ls.jpg
eBay

reverse / Wm Petgold, De Long St., L.A.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/1hmlqj.jpg


but I can't find De Long Street anywhere near 13th Street.

*I just checked again......now I can't even find De Long Street.

Help!
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ethereal_reality Nov 12, 2015 2:35 AM

Although the seller doesn't say, I believe this is another Rood snapshot. [c.1928]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/aAd74G.jpg
eBay

rick m Nov 12, 2015 2:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7232122)
Here's an amazing photograph I recently found on eBay. (what clarity!)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...907/dN09Ls.jpg
eBay

reverse / Wm Petgold, De Long St., L.A.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/1hmlqj.jpg


but I can't find De Long Street anywhere near 13th Street.

*I just checked again......now I can't even find De Long Street.

Help!
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Perhaps what was meant was Delongpre St. - ?

tovangar2 Nov 12, 2015 4:20 AM

1321 De Long St
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7232122)

but I can't find De Long Street anywhere near 13th Street.

*I just checked again......now I can't even find De Long Street.

Help!
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"De Long St., bet. 16th (present Venice Blvd.) & Pico, is under the L.A. Convention Center"

-Los Angeles in the 1900s/Streets of a Hundred Years Ago by George Garrigues

:previous:
very useful website this.

Baist 1910, plate 9. 1321 De Long is near the top, at center. De Long is two streets west of Figueroa:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V...9%252520PM.jpg
historic mapworks

http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/...ys/California/
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MichaelRyerson Nov 12, 2015 4:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7232122)
Here's an amazing photograph I recently found on eBay. (what clarity!)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...907/dN09Ls.jpg
eBay

reverse / Wm Petgold, De Long St., L.A.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/1hmlqj.jpg


but I can't find De Long Street anywhere near 13th Street.

*I just checked again......now I can't even find De Long Street.

Help!
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DeLong Street disappeared under the Convention Center (and Staples) along with most of Georgia Street. (ha. well, second place isn't too bad)

Flyingwedge Nov 12, 2015 4:25 AM

1321 De Long Street
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7232122)
Here's an amazing photograph I recently found on eBay. (what clarity!)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...907/dN09Ls.jpg
eBay

reverse / Wm Petgold, De Long St., L.A.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/1hmlqj.jpg


but I can't find De Long Street anywhere near 13th Street.

*I just checked again......now I can't even find De Long Street.

Help!
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1905 LA City Directory:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...n.jpg~original
fold3.com

1906 Sanborn Map; that's Pico running vertically on the right side. You can see 1321 De Long one house to
the south of the alley south of Pico:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...c.jpg~original
LAPL

The site of 1321 De Long is now under the Convention Center. There are little stubs of Wright at the bottom
and Georgia at the top, with Pico running across the center:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...z.jpg~original
Googlemap

The house was still there in 1950.

tovangar2 Nov 12, 2015 5:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7232132)
Although the seller doesn't say, I believe this is another Rood snapshot. [c.1928]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...905/aAd74G.jpg
eBay

That's the Fire Dept float for the 26 April 1928 City Hall dedication parade. Too bad it wasn't made out of cake:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D...2%252520PM.jpg

The float from a group of Chinese organizations was made of cake:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-h...0%252520PM.jpg

Pix (and reporting) from LAT

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oldstuff Nov 12, 2015 5:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7232122)
Here's an amazing photograph I recently found on eBay. (what clarity!)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...907/dN09Ls.jpg
eBay

reverse / Wm Petgold, De Long St., L.A.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/1hmlqj.jpg


but I can't find De Long Street anywhere near 13th Street.

*I just checked again......now I can't even find De Long Street.

Help!
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Meet Mr. William Petzold, his wife Eva and daughters Florence,on right, and Nellie, on left. Mr Petzold was born in New York of German immigrant parents, in February of 1866. His wife was also born in New York as were both his daughters. The younger daughter, Nellie, was born in 1897 so that would mean that the family came to California between that time and 1900 when they appear in the Census in Los Angeles. They lived at 506 E. 1st street in 1900 and then later moved to 842 Beaudry where they lived until the mid-1940's. They must have lived in the De Long house for only a very short time.


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