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BDiH Aug 21, 2020 5:46 AM

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Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9017338)
https://i.postimg.cc/RZVx3v40/Insura...Long-Beach.jpg
Wikipedia/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insura...hange_Building

What connects Tail o'the Pup's Veloz and Yolanda and the 1925 Insurance Exchange Building at 201-211 E. Broadway in Long Beach?

Veloz and Yolanda's dance studio was in this building. The rear of the structure has a "ghost sign" on which, with scrutiny, one was in the 1960s--and perhaps still is--able to discern an advertisement for Veloz and Yolanda's studio. As in my tyke years I was a habitué of downtown Long Beach, I knew and mused over that wall sign, and Veloz and Yolanda, many many a time.

Edit add: Ah, here we go:

https://i.postimg.cc/yYRkfXZR/Veloz.jpg
gsv

You can still see the ghostly presence of Veloz and Yolanda . . . The "V" of "Veloz" is below the "S" of "Sawyer"; and "world's finest dance instruction" is clearest of all.

Veloz and Yolanda also had a dance studio next to (or a part of) the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel. Their daughter, Yolanda Veloz, was a student at Hollywood High School.

There are two streets named after the dancers in the San Fernando Valley, Veloz Avenue and Yolanda Avenue. They intersect just south of Ventura Boulevard in Tarzana.

riichkay Aug 21, 2020 8:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9017046)
sdasds




Slightly North of this location at Nemo St., riichkay, do you recall La Conversation Cafe & Bakery? After thirty years they closed last year, losing their space because a developer is buying up the block to create another monstrosity in West Hollywood. Have you heard anything about this? I bemoaned the Cafe's closing, as well as nearby Cafe D'Etoile last year, too, because these kinds of places are becoming extinct in West Hollywood.


Martin, I was saddened to see the bakery closed... 

15-20 years ago there was a core of night crawlers who would close Tana's and then head out back to the parking lot on Nemo, in back of the bakery....someone would go into their trunk and pull out a bottle of vodka and paper cups....on occasion, we were there late enough that the early bakery crew showed up....the crew would sometimes take pity on these boozers and come out with yesterday's bread.... 

I need to be circumspect here, but the "core" included the late Harry Dean Stanton, and another veteran character actor still living, a cantankerous fellow who I will only identify by his first name, which is Dabney.

One morning, in back of the bakery, Phil Spector, out on bail and awaiting trial, got up in my face over some perceived slight....he was dressed in that fright wig and a long Edwardian coat, truly a ludicrous figure....I laughed and told him I owned his "Back to Mono" box set, tried to mollify him....eventually he calmed down and apologized just like the kids of the day, "No disrespect, man, no disrespect".

One other note on the carnage off the Santa Monica/Doheny corner, the noted martial arts master Emil Farkas has closed his dojo located immediately west of the Troubadour....he was there 50 years....Emil lives two doors from me and is a good friend...he did security for Spector in the early '60's, has great tales of Liberty Records, Snuff Garrett, Lou Adler....Elvis stopped in to the dojo one afternoon early '70s.        

CaliNative Aug 21, 2020 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BDiH (Post 9017614)
Veloz and Yolanda also had a dance studio next to (or a part of) the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel. Their daughter, Yolanda Veloz, was a student at Hollywood High School.

There are two streets named after the dancers in the San Fernando Valley, Veloz Avenue and Yolanda Avenue. They intersect just south of Ventura Boulevard in Tarzana.

As a baseball fan, I recall that Veloz and Yolanda danced in a scene in the Lou Gehrig biopic "Pride of the Yankees" starring Gary Cooper as Lou and Babe Ruth as himself. Veloz & Yolanda were the headliners in a nightclub when Lou was dating his wife to be Eleanor. Lou was a Mama's boy and quite shy. According to one Ruth bio I read, Ruth and Eleanor may have had a fling before the marriage, or at least Lou suspected that, and this may have led to bad feelings all around. The Babe liked the ladies, as well as vast quantities of food & drink. Burned the candle at both ends, yet he outlived good boy Lou. But Lou got the better biopic by far. "Pride of the Yankees" is memorable. The Ruth biopic with William Bendix is horrid. But at least the Babe memorably appears in Lou's biopic, and steals the show. The Babe was unforgettable.

ethereal_reality Aug 21, 2020 5:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Blaster (Post 9017410)
The bus station clock in THE KILLING... possibly Kubrick didn't want the scene to get locked in to a specific time and had the glass smudged over?

That had crossed my mind, Blaster, but I doubt it. . simply because Kubrick was such a perfectionist.
I think he would have forseen the issue & set the clock to the appropriate time that would correspond to the script/storyline.



Let's take a closer look at the clock.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/oHt2f3.jpg
detail

hmm. . .If I squint really hard I might be seeing a faint, faint, faint shadow of the hands of the clock. *rubs eyes*


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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 9017235)
I don't remember a doorway connecting the two businesses in 1972.
With children in the bus station, any connecting door with a bar is not a good idea imo.

That's true, CBD, but I believe someone mentioned that there was a connecting doorway.

And the reason for the door?

So that travelers imbibing at the Grapevine's bar felt like they still had one foot in the bus station.
Kind of like a bar at an airport. ....p e r h a p s

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Here's a closer look at the door in question. . .and something I hadn't noticed before!

There is a man peeking from the doorway waiting for Kubrick to finish filming the scene.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/a2ss5E.jpg

.............................................................................................Do you see him?


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MartinTurnbull Aug 21, 2020 6:02 PM

Vine Street looking north during WWII compared with a recreation for "Bugsy" (1991)
 
Last night I watched the Warren Beatty/Annette Bening movie “Bugsy” (1991) and was struck at how well they recreated 1940s Los Angeles. It’s no wonder it won the Oscar for Best Art Direction. But there was one shot of Vine Street at night that I thought was particularly striking. I was pretty sure I had a photo of the real thing so I freeze-framed my TV and took a photo of and went hunting in my archives. Sure enough, I did find a shot of Vine Street Hollywood looking north. It was taken during WWII so it’s darker than the recreation (LA had a lot of blackouts and dimouts during the war) but now that I can see them together, I think they did a marvelous job.

(The top photo is the one taken during WWII and the bottom photo is the shot I took of my TV screen last night.)

https://martinturnbull.com/wp-conten...1991-copy.jpeg

Mackerm Aug 21, 2020 8:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8998470)
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A mystery location.


Remember the 'Swim Easy' posts from a couple of weeks ago. . .

Here's another with a. . .umm. . .mystery ghost. :shrug:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/um7HrF.jpg
old file / bbarr

I wish I had more information for you. ....I think the best clue might be the peaked mountain on the right.

The pine-covered knob bursting out of the plain behind the car is striking. I'm thinking not southern California. That huge paved parking lot might be a racetrack or fairground. I did check Santa Anita, but the mountains don't match.

Lwize Aug 22, 2020 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mackerm (Post 9018433)
The pine-covered knob bursting out of the plain is striking. I'm thinking not southern California. That huge paved parking lot might be a racetrack or fairground. I did check Santa Anita, but the mountains don't match.

Looks like Fairplex in Pomona.

Mackerm Aug 22, 2020 4:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 9018608)
Looks like Fairplex in Pomona.

I don't recognize anything in Pomona like that hill behind the car (I edited the original to make it clearer.) I do think the Mystery ghost might be Paul.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...bleEPcover.jpg
Wikipedia

Noir_Noir Aug 22, 2020 4:42 AM

:previous:

Detail from a recent shot of Fairplex on the bottom.

https://i.imgur.com/gVANaMP.jpg
daniellebennink.com


:tup: Lwize

Bristolian Aug 22, 2020 5:11 AM

No Question There
 
:previous:

:tup: Indeed! And great find of the photo, Noir_Noir to confirm it. I've seen shapes of hills and mountains used to identify locations many times here but have not seen such a slam dunk matchup as that. It's uncanny.

Mackerm Aug 22, 2020 7:56 AM

:previous:
I agree!! In fact, I feel a bit guilty that Noir_Noir had to dig up the Fairplex photo and line it up.

I know there's some explanation for that pine-covered hill. Hollywood trickery, some abandoned exhibit in the parking lot, or maybe they were towing a diorama.

CityBoyDoug Aug 22, 2020 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9016973)
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'Wild Strawberries' clockface homage?



Here are a couple more screengrabs from Kubrick's The Killing. [1956]


In this scene we're inside the Hollywood Bus Station on Vine St.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/KIvDaN.jpg
youtube

I'm curious about the blank clock face.

Does it just look blank because of a reflection or is it something other than a clock. . .like a light fixture? :shrug:

The scene begin at 44:40




As Sterling Hayden's character is walking out I believe we get a glimpse of the door that leads to the recently discussed Grapevine Room. (far right / just past the cigarette machine)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/1cIxUt.jpg



The faceless 'clock' also appears in a later scene at 47:17


YouTube
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I don't remember a doorway connecting the two businesses in 1972.
With children in the bus station, any connecting door with a bar is not a good idea imo.

If there was a connecting doorway, its totally irrelevant to the movie and to this blog.
I was in both the bar and the station in 1972 and I don't recall any doorway but there may have been one. its way past being of any consequence.

Lwize Aug 22, 2020 3:29 PM

Kubrick was known for irrelevant doorways.

Bristolian Aug 22, 2020 3:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9018125)

FWIW, that must be a sign for Clarence Dixon Cadillac, at Sunset & Vine partly visible through the window. Long gone.

https://i.imgur.com/E8WARj3.jpgFlickr

CityBoyDoug Aug 22, 2020 5:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 9019019)
Kubrick was known for irrelevant doorways.

Endless adornments :banana: :banana:

Martin Pal Aug 22, 2020 6:00 PM

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Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 9017661)
One other note on the carnage off the Santa Monica/Doheny corner, the noted martial arts master Emil Farkas has closed his dojo located immediately west of the Troubadour....he was there 50 years....Emil lives two doors from me and is a good friend...he did security for Spector in the early '60's, has great tales of Liberty Records, Snuff Garrett, Lou Adler....Elvis stopped in to the dojo one afternoon early '70s.      ______________________________________________________________

Thanks for your comments, riichkay, and I did not know about this closing!

Every night on the local news is something about someone else throwing in the towel with their long-time businesses, not to mention short time ones.

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Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9017679)
As a baseball fan, I recall that Veloz and Yolanda danced in a scene in the Lou Gehrig biopic "Pride of the Yankees" starring Gary Cooper as Lou and Babe Ruth as himself. Veloz & Yolanda were the headliners in a nightclub when Lou was dating his wife to be Eleanor. Lou was a Mama's boy and quite shy. According to one Ruth bio I read, Ruth and Eleanor may have had a fling before the marriage, or at least Lou suspected that, and this may have led to bad feelings all around. The Babe liked the ladies, as well as vast quantities of food & drink. Burned the candle at both ends, yet he outlived good boy Lou. But Lou got the better biopic by far. "Pride of the Yankees" is memorable. The Ruth biopic with William Bendix is horrid. But at least the Babe memorably appears in Lou's biopic, and steals the show. The Babe was unforgettable.
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I'd forgotten all about that scene in Pride of the Yankees with Veloz and Yolanda!!!

Martin Pal Aug 22, 2020 6:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mackerm (Post 9018433)
The pine-covered knob bursting out of the plain behind the car is striking. I'm thinking not southern California.
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Are pine trees uncommon in SoCal? I recall seeing them from a restaurant window in Universal City. This famous Gilligan's Island publicity photo has pine trees in the background.

https://www.daily-choices.com/wp-con...pg.pro-cmg.jpg


Of course, the two locations I mentioned are backlots of movie studios. But I believe I've seen them in Griffith Park, too. I'm not an expert on the local flora (nor fauna), but this LINK of Common Trees of Los Angeles has a few pines included, like this tall one titled a Canary Island Pine.


https://selectree.calpoly.edu/images...ensis-tree.jpg

Mackerm Aug 22, 2020 8:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9019136)
Are pine trees uncommon in SoCal? I recall seeing them from a restaurant window in Universal City.

They're around Clearman's Village too. Right now I'm thinking they might me more of the following variety. I recall an enormous model railroad setup under Pomona grandstand.
https://i.postimg.cc/Bv8pGTT7/Model-Train-441.jpg
Ty's Model Railroad

odinthor Aug 22, 2020 9:56 PM

Pines are fairly ubiquitous in greater L.A.: Parks, schoolyards, streets, yards at home . . .

https://i.postimg.cc/J4McRZnX/Pines.jpg
gsv; Pines (mostly) along Sunflower Avenue, on the approach to South Coast Plaza. No sunflowers, though.

Their cones, needle-drop, and sometimes oozing resinous sap make them less than ideal for street trees; but people tend to look on them favorably.

BillinGlendaleCA Aug 23, 2020 1:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mackerm (Post 9018829)
I don't recognize anything in Pomona like that hill behind the car (I edited the original to make it clearer.) I do think the Mystery ghost might be Paul.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...bleEPcover.jpg
Wikipedia

"There's a fog upon LA..."
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...56a40593_b.jpg_8010002-Edit.jpg by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr


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