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ethereal_reality Aug 19, 2020 5:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9013176)
E_R, the intersection is San Vicente Blvd. looking south at Wilshire Blvd.!

Thanks Martin Pal. I appreciate it, buddy.


I enjoyed your two excellent posts, Mackerm.

I tried to find more information on the Old Oaken Bucket Inn but all my leads came to naught.

& I was quite impressed that you recognized the building in your screengrab from Kubrick's The Killing as Charlie Chaplin's old movie studio. . . . .Good eye! :coolugh:



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ethereal_reality Aug 19, 2020 3:15 PM

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mystery location.

Does anyone recognize this crazyass building or where, in Los Angeles, it was located?

"1970s 35mm Slide Los Angeles Street Scene Coca Cola Bottle Building Antiques Auto"


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/3SH3wj.jpg
eBay

I'm guessing this is Sunset Blvd.... Other than that I'm baffled.


Stamped Jan. 1976
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/kig7q6.jpg


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ethereal_reality Aug 19, 2020 4:14 PM

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The same eBay seller also has this slide of the Tail O The Pup


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/XXNJR4.jpg
Jan. 1976

I used to eat lunch here when I worked at the Beverly Center. (1982 - 83)

By then the school desks were gone & if I remember correctly there was a picnic table, or two, behind the Pup..........Oh, and I never got sick ...:slob:

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Martin Pal Aug 19, 2020 8:01 PM

:previous:

The 1933 Group has this listed on their website as their next project to bring back in some location. "Stay tuned" is the only info at present.

They have this photo on there:

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...eg?format=500w1933Group

1964 Ford Thunderbird. Don't know what that signifies unless it was an ad or something.

I found a similar but different photo of the same on another site:

https://images.fineartamerica.com/im...ar-culture.jpgCarDiary

Martin Pal Aug 19, 2020 8:30 PM

P.S.: Here's a 1982 photo of the place with E_R's place of work (1982-83) in the background:

https://a.scpr.org/i/3c54003d4420e68...86093-full.jpgFSDA

Look familiar, E_R?

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I think it's amusing the Hospital sign is pointing at the hot dog stand.

Martin Pal Aug 19, 2020 8:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9015372)
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mystery location.
Does anyone recognize this crazyass building or where, in Los Angeles, it was located?
"1970s 35mm Slide Los Angeles Street Scene Coca Cola Bottle Building Antiques Auto"

I'm guessing this is Sunset Blvd.... Other than that I'm baffled.

Stamped Jan. 1976
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/kig7q6.jpg
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E_R, I found this postcard of the store:

https://live.staticflickr.com/5701/2...a883ed7b_b.jpgCarboard America Archives

It comes with this information from the back of the card:

Peter Sidlow's unique store devoted to the sale of antique advertising and specializing in the advertising items of Coca-Cola.
11702 Ventura Boulevard [at Colfax Ave.]
Studio City, California

I guess maybe that's Peter (or Leonard) in the white "The Real Thing" t-shirt in front of the store?

This card also has the following information:

Dear Friend,
After January 15th, 1979, we shall be at our new location in North Hollywood 11650 Riverside Drive, 91602 - Corner Colfax Ave. 213-980-3444.
We look forward to greeting you there. Hours 10-5. No Sundays.
Cordially, Leonard Sidlow


At the Riverside Dr. address now is a new looking medical services building.

Snix Aug 19, 2020 9:21 PM

I guess this explains the antique cars parked along the building.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...f4bde347f4.jpg
LAT 11.12.70
Permits for the Coca-Cola addition (by "Contempo" construction) date it to 1975.

Sidlow was a real estate developer who sold his Coca-Cola, Campbell's Soup, and Cunard Line collections at auction in 1989. (NYT 3.24.89)
He currently owns a store in Las Vegas called Victorian Casino Antiques
https://www.reviewjournal.com/uncate...lley-business/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9015826)
E_R, I found this postcard of the store:

https://live.staticflickr.com/5701/2...a883ed7b_b.jpgCarboard America Archives

It comes with this information from the back of the card:

Peter Sidlow's unique store devoted to the sale of antique advertising and specializing in the advertising items of Coca-Cola.
11702 Ventura Boulevard [at Colfax Ave.]
Studio City, California

I guess maybe that's Peter (or Leonard) in the white "The Real Thing" t-shirt in front of the store?

This card also has the following information:

Dear Friend,
After January 15th, 1979, we shall be at our new location in North Hollywood 11650 Riverside Drive, 91602 - Corner Colfax Ave. 213-980-3444.
We look forward to greeting you there. Hours 10-5. No Sundays.
Cordially, Leonard Sidlow


At the Riverside Dr. address now is a new looking medical services building.


riichkay Aug 19, 2020 11:57 PM

Screen grabs from "Shield for Murder", a noirish 1954 release starring Edmond O'Brien....I lightened up the grabs from the film so we can see more background...


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

The film starts with a pre-title sequence, O'Brien is walking south on Doheny Dr. just north of Santa Monica Blvd.



https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds
gsv



https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

He walks past that brick building at the NE corner of Santa Monica/Doheny.



https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds



https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

In a few frames O'Brien is in the alleyway that comes in off of Doheny, we see him walking past it in the first screen grab...I knew it instantly, as I have walked through this alley hundreds of times, parking on Doheny late at night then making my way to Dan Tana's....O'Brien is in front of the back side of the property that is now the legendary Troubadour club....just to the left out of frame is the property that now houses the Doheny Room nightclub....then there's a driveway, on the other side of the driveway is Dan Tana's.... 



https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

The two telephone poles in the '54 image still bookend the Troubadour property....the building on the far right has lost the external staircase....


I had my own moment of infamy in this very same alleyway....about a year and a half ago I exited Tana's around 2:30, headed to the car on Doheny....there was a gaggle of photogs making a ruckus, in a few minutes the pop singer Miley Cyrus exited the rear of the Doheny Room....I was just a few steps east of where Eddie O'Brien stood all those years ago...


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

....and the paparazzi caught me in the background, clearly bemused by all the commotion.   

Noir_Noir Aug 20, 2020 3:25 AM

:previous:


That's a brilliant epilog riichkay.

I wasn't expecting that. Moody intrigue in the mean alleyways of LA ... Miley Cyrus ... and you.

:tup: :)

Mackerm Aug 20, 2020 4:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 9014836)

Thanks for that. It took me a while to figure out what things like "1956 CD" meant. I see that the address (if not the building) was used as a recording studio by Art Laboe (discussed here recently regarding the Comedy Store building) for many years. And the same directory lists 1433 N. La Brea as "Nik-Rik Restaurant."

Hmmm. 1416 N. La Brea is (among other things) Harris-Kubrick Pictures Inc. and Kubrick Stanley.

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9015124)
& I was quite impressed that you recognized the building in your screengrab from Kubrick's The Killing as Charlie Chaplin's old movie studio. . . . .Good eye! :coolugh:
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Thanks! I hope I haven't gone all Room 237 (yet), but I found this post from Lorendoc to be useful because it contains a map identifying the various buildings in the 1950s-era airport. So now we can see that the site of the American Airlines terminal featured in the movie is inside the current American Airlines Cargo building.

I'm dubious that it was all filmed there, cause I don't think the management would look kindly on blowing paper all over their nice airport.

Noir_Noir Aug 20, 2020 5:58 AM

:previous:


After it's interior's cameo in The Killing, 1433 N. La Brea's exterior showed up briefly two years later in another noted noir film.

Here it is in Irving Lerner's Murder by Contract from 1958.


https://i.imgur.com/i2Bs0J9.jpg


The ensuing scenes take place in the old Chaplin studio. (1hour:07min mark)


Video Link

CityBoyDoug Aug 20, 2020 4:59 PM

https://loop48.com/bump/wp-content/u...chili-dogs.jpg
old LA file

I first knew of this place in 1972. I worked for a year about a block away and stood at the open bun one time. The food: Ordinary. The atmosphere: unique.

ethereal_reality Aug 20, 2020 6:40 PM

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Here's an early image of the Tail o' the Pup found.. Here

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/6xMkpt.jpg

umm. . .I'm not certain of this location.

What's that round cistern-like thingy on the building next door?

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Snix Aug 20, 2020 7:01 PM

Here's a great little Streamline Moderne bowling center looking a little forlorn in Mid City. The National Bowling Academy was built in 1940 at 4871 W. Washington Blvd. The architect was William Douglas Lee, who also created the Chateau Marmont and El Royale apartments. It's currently available for lease at about $1/sq. ft.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...41b18f9453.jpg
(matchbook on eBay) https://www.ebay.com/itm/National-Bo...wAAOSwSmxfBlNB

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...5a16953348.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0a1ca09c83.jpg
(GSV)

For lease: https://www.crexi.com/lease/properti...ashington-blvd

ethereal_reality Aug 20, 2020 7:24 PM

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'Wild Strawberries' clockface homage?



Here are a couple more screengrabs from Kubrick's The Killing. [1956]


In this scene we're inside the Hollywood Bus Station on Vine St.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/KIvDaN.jpg
youtube

I'm curious about the blank clock face.

Does it just look blank because of a reflection or is it something other than a clock. . .like a light fixture? :shrug:

The scene begin at 44:40




As Sterling Hayden's character is walking out I believe we get a glimpse of the door that leads to the recently discussed Grapevine Room. (far right / just past the cigarette machine)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/1cIxUt.jpg



The faceless 'clock' also appears in a later scene at 47:17


YouTube
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Martin Pal Aug 20, 2020 8:15 PM

sdasds

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 9016026)
The film starts with a pre-title sequence, O'Brien is walking south on Doheny Dr. just north of Santa Monica Blvd.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds
gsv
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Slightly North of this location at Nemo St., riichkay, do you recall La Conversation Cafe & Bakery? After thirty years they closed last year, losing their space because a developer is buying up the block to create another monstrosity in West Hollywood. Have you heard anything about this? I bemoaned the Cafe's closing, as well as nearby Cafe D'Etoile last year, too, because these kinds of places are becoming extinct in West Hollywood.

Martin Pal Aug 20, 2020 9:24 PM

1944: Veloz and Yolanda at the Hollywood Canteen

https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com/img-g...y9Y_uV_Fyg.jpgHistoricHollywoodPhotographs

Two years later:

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 7156175)
For a side note: Veloz and Yolanda once owned the Tail O' the Pup building.
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https://www.660citynews.com/wp-conte..._152639_hd.jpg660citynews

[Notice a place called The Little Joynt in the background.]

Caption: In this June 27, 1946, photo is the Tail O' The Pup hot dog stand during its premiere in Los Angeles.

Tail o’ the Pup opened in 1946 near the corner of La Cienega and Beverly Boulevards with a real, star-studded Hollywood-type gala. It was built by a man named Milton Black and its original owners were the dance team of Veloz and Yolanda. It was a way of investing their show biz earnings in something more stable. The dog, by the way, was 17 feet long and was basically a front piece that fit onto a more conventional kitchen trailer. [OldLARestaurants]

https://laistassets.scprdev.org/i/f2...1-original.jpgLAist

The above photo came from the Tail O' the Pup website, according to LAist, but the link is broken now. It is not dated.

As E_R's photo below attests, it seems nearly every photo of this place looks like it was in a different location, but most of it's years until 1985 it was in the same space on La Cienega Blvd., but the surrounding area kept changing, so it has many backgrounds. It "seems" to have moved up and down the street a few hundred yards here and there, but pretty much the same location until it moved over to San Vicente later on.

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9016877)
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Here's an early image of the Tail o' the Pup found.. Here

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/6xMkpt.jpg

umm. . .I'm not certain of this location.

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Here's another undated photo showing La Cienega Blvd. at left facing south.

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...3d&oe=5F63356AFacebookPage

CityBoyDoug Aug 20, 2020 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9016973)
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As Sterling Hayden's character is walking out I believe we get a glimpse of the door that leads to the recently discussed Grapevine Room. (far right / just past the cigarette machine)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/1cIxUt.jpg



I don't remember a doorway connecting the two businesses in 1972.
With children in the bus station, any connecting door with a bar is not a good idea imo.

odinthor Aug 20, 2020 11:57 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/RZVx3v40/Insura...Long-Beach.jpg
Wikipedia/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insura...hange_Building

What connects Tail o'the Pup's Veloz and Yolanda and the 1925 Insurance Exchange Building at 201-211 E. Broadway in Long Beach?

Veloz and Yolanda's dance studio was in this building. The rear of the structure has a "ghost sign" on which, with scrutiny, one was in the 1960s--and perhaps still is--able to discern an advertisement for Veloz and Yolanda's studio. As in my tyke years I was a habitué of downtown Long Beach, I knew and mused over that wall sign, and Veloz and Yolanda, many many a time.

Edit add: Ah, here we go:

https://i.postimg.cc/yYRkfXZR/Veloz.jpg
gsv

You can still see the ghostly presence of Veloz and Yolanda . . . The "V" of "Veloz" is below the "S" of "Sawyer"; and "world's finest dance instruction" is clearest of all.

Blaster Aug 21, 2020 1:05 AM

The bus station clock in THE KILLING... possibly Kubrick didn't want the scene to get locked in to a specific time and had the glass smudged over?


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