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ScottyB Aug 5, 2020 6:33 AM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 9000582)
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I think your aerial is just a little early. Here's one from 1944 which appears to show a building matching M-M Foods in the original photo. The building currently on that corner seems to have the same footprint as the one below, so it could be the original remodeled.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...sPasadena1.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu


Thanks HossC, and sopas ej! (South Pasadena is part of my home territory too. :))

Mstimc Aug 5, 2020 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9000397)
Excellent! Thanks. NY had the Algonquin Round Table--LA the Ambassador Round Table. I wonder if HL was photographed with Sister Aimee? He did attend a service at Angeles Temple and said he was stirred by Sister Aimee. She was quite attractive. It must have been shortly after her "kidnapping" that summer, when some say she may have been on a romantic tryst in N. Cal. Was that ever proven? Wasn't there a trial about faking a crime? I vaguely recall an old TV movie about the scandal. I believe Faye Dunaway (!) was cast as Aimee. Chinatown indeed. Any good pics about Aimee and the scandal? Sister Aimee came through it OK (she must have been acquitted). I always wanted to attend a service at Angeles Temple and pretend I was a latter day Mencken but it wouldn't have been the same as seeing Aimee in action.She was quite a lady and did a lot of good.

Well, there is Elmer Gantry with Jean Simmons playing a Sister Aimee analogue. And I found this obscure movie from 2006...

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0384798/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

I had an elderly cousin who lived in West LA since the 1920's. When she died, she left me a lot of family heirlooms, including her father's Foursquare Gospel prayer book, complete with Aimee's autograph!

ethereal_reality Aug 5, 2020 1:20 PM

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Two slides of the Century City outdoor mall, 1968.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/vSJsdy.jpg
eBay

I'm fixated on the sculpture that is enclosed in a glass case......It's very cool.



A closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/Su95dk.jpg
detail

I can't decide what it is, exactly; I see a woman facing foreward with her hands behind her head (her elbows are out in front). .but I also see a vase of. . .umm. . . prairie grass(?)

The substance that it's made out of is also interesting. It looks like it might have been carved out of ivory. (let's hope not)




Here's the 2nd view. .also from 1968.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/dqNlsA.jpg

I'm interested in the vaguely. . .umm. .'polynesian' looking place (restaurant?) in the foreground on the left.



If you closely you can see the name is 'something' House.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/3vtYji.jpg
detail

I've looked for more information but I haven't found anything relevent.

Hmm. . I guess it could also be a furniture showroom.


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Lwize Aug 5, 2020 5:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9001598)

I'm interested in the vaguely. . .umm. .'polynesian' looking place (restaurant?) in the foreground on the left.

If you closely you can see the name is 'something' House.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/3vtYji.jpg
detail

I've looked for more information but I haven't found anything relevent.

Hmm. . I guess it could also be a furniture showroom.


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It was a restaurant, and was replaced 20 some-odd years later with a food court and replaced again with stores and replaced again...

The mall (in the pre-pandemic world) was a popular high-end Asian tourist shopping destination and for the local wealthy clientele. It has undergone multiple expensive "re-imaginings".

I've lived within two miles of the mall for my entire life. One of my earliest memories is being there in a stroller circa 1967.

Scott Charles Aug 5, 2020 8:02 PM

Venice Beach
 
I've been cleaning out my late parents' garage, and in the process I'm finding a lot of their old photographs, slides, and negatives.

99.9% of their photographs are of people (i.e., no buildings) but I did stumble across these photos of Venice Beach:

https://i.imgur.com/YGpIZ1b.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IKwCyAK.jpg

The sign under the arch says BRIDGO. The blade sign on the side of the building says HOTEL, but I am unable to read the name of the hotel.

I can't figure out which buildings these are today. Do these building still exist?

(Judging by the other negatives found in the same group, these pictures were almost certainly taken between 1958 and 1960)

Lorendoc Aug 5, 2020 8:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 9002056)
I've been cleaning out my late parents' garage, and in the process I'm finding a lot of their old photographs, slides, and negatives.

99.9% of their photographs are of people (i.e., no buildings) but I did stumble across these photos of Venice Beach:

https://i.imgur.com/YGpIZ1b.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IKwCyAK.jpg

The sign under the arch says BRIDGO. The blade sign on the side of the building says HOTEL, but I am unable to read the name of the hotel.

I can't figure out which buildings these are today. Do these building still exist?

(Judging by the other negatives found in the same group, these pictures were almost certainly taken between 1958 and 1960)

We've seen these before.

HossC Aug 5, 2020 8:46 PM

:previous:

Here's the opposite view from 1955 with the Bridgo building roughly in the center. The hotel was the St Mark on the corner of Windward Avenue.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...arkVenice1.jpg
LAPL

Here's a reminder of a KCET article from a previous post. It details how the Bridgo building became The Gas House, a center for Venice's beatnik community, around 1958/59. It was torn down in 1962. The hotel survived a few years longer, but was gone by 1972.

Scott Charles Aug 5, 2020 8:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 9002094)
We've seen these before.

Wow, thanks for the fantastic links, Lorendoc! :)

JeffDiego Aug 5, 2020 8:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8998045)
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I am absolutely amazed by what you guys dug up on 1453 Vine Street! :worship:

It had quite the history. . .from Capt. Markham's private 'villa'. . . to a company looking for dancing girls. . . . to a clubhouse for communists' organizations.
It sure sucks that it was torn down. :hell:



I was confused by the 'tower' portion of the roof in the image below....To me it looks like a flat. . .umm. . .parallelogram.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/jqLy8x.jpg





. . .but this second image clears things right up. :)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/gYkems.jpg

Any information on the large house facing Sunset Blvd?...................................................................This one. :previous:

It appears to have had a porte cochere.


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Yes, the information dug up on the old mansion at 1453 Vine Street by Lorendoc, Flyingwedge, and Noir_Noir is beyond impressive. As soon as Ethereal first put up the image & posed some questions I became fascinated...an eccentric, circa-1900 Hollywood mansion still standing in the 1960's, and in such an odd location. Hard to believe there are not photos of the full-size house, additions and all, out there. Here's hoping someone finds one or more.

Scott Charles Aug 5, 2020 9:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 9002117)
:previous:

Here's the opposite view from 1955 with the Bridgo building roughly in the center. The hotel was the St Mark on the corner of Windward Avenue.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...arkVenice1.jpg
LAPL

Here's a reminder of a KCET article from a previous post. It details how the Bridgo building became The Gas House, a center for Venice's beatnik community, around 1958/59. It was torn down in 1962. The hotel survived a few years longer, but was gone by 1972.

Wow, fantastic, HossC - thanks!

I judged the year of my photos to be 1958-1960 based on two factors with the rest of the negatives in the same envelope:

One, my older brother (born 1960) is in none of the photos. Once he was born he was in pretty much all of my parents' photos.
Two, my mom's cat Yuki (which she got in 1958) is in the photos. And she's just a kitten.

The kitten aspect would seem to date my photos to 1958. Maybe they were shot in '58, and the building became The Gas House in '59...

Martin Pal Aug 5, 2020 9:35 PM

Century City Shopping Center...
...was apparently called Century Square Shopping Center at the start.

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9001598)
.Here's the 2nd view. .also from 1968.

I'm interested in the vaguely. . .umm. .'polynesian' looking place (restaurant?) in the foreground on the left.

If you closely you can see the name is 'something' House.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/3vtYji.jpg
detail
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Here's a map of the shopping center:

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...ee&oe=5F4F9259



As Lwize posted, the building in question in E_R's post was a restaurant, the Century House.

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...a7&oe=5F4ECBB5



Here's looking at the restaurant, and the Broadway Dept. Store, from Santa Monica Blvd.

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...2a&oe=5F4EE092



In the 1967 film "Caprice", Doris Day runs up the side steps to the shopping center...

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...d2&oe=5F505441



...and sits down at an outside table in front of the Century House.

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...4a&oe=5F526049

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...09&oe=5F5027F9



In "The Guide for the Married Man," directed by Gene Kelly, released within two weeks of "Caprice" in 1967, Walter Matthau and Robert Morse also have a conversation in front of this restaurant:

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...6e&oe=5F508CEB



In 1972, some apes invaded the shopping center:

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b1&oe=5F4FB100



There was also a Clifton's Cafeteria in there.

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...59&oe=5F5032BB
All photos, except one and I don't recall which one, are from Vintage Los Angeles

Lwize Aug 5, 2020 10:13 PM

^^^^^

I dined at the CC Clifton's in the 1970's.

The Mayfair Market became the high-end Gelson's shortly thereafter (owned by Arden-Mayfair), and my brother and sister worked there bagging groceries.

The Gateway West office low-rise was demolished a few years ago for the latest mall expansion under Westfield.

The mall was formerly 20th Century-Fox's back lot - so Planet of the Apes filming was well within the TMZ. ;)

LA_walks Aug 6, 2020 8:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaster (Post 7529990)
Does anyone know if the courtyard apartments in 1975's THE FORTUNE were an existing location or were they constructed for the film? I sorta suspect the latter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRxiobC2LhI

The_Fortune

The_Day_of_the_Locust_(film)

thecrimson 1975/7/22 squandering-a-fortune/

courtyard apartments were the same location

:shrug:

LA_walks Aug 6, 2020 8:35 AM

Century Square Shopping Center
 
"Century City Shopping Center...
...was apparently called Century Square Shopping Center at the start."

was there a supermarket on the lower level?

Prudential Shopping Center in Boston had many similar architectural details.

Rendering_of_Prudential_Center_(18887707812)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:R...887707812).jpg

Scott Charles Aug 6, 2020 2:59 PM

Going through my late father's stuff recently, I found this letter:

https://i.imgur.com/zAo7yKf.jpg

My dad always told me he was friends with Frank Sinatra back in his days as a reporter, so I admit I was thrilled to find this! I wish I found a photo of them together, but I'll take what I can get!

Though the letter is not dated, Sinatra mentions “High Hopes”, which is a song he released on June 5th, 1959. And June 9th was a Tuesday in 1959, so I think it's reasonable to assume this letter is from 1959.

At first glance I thought the letter mentioned the Garden of Allah, but on closer inspection it's actually the Garden of Eden. Anyone familiar with this place?

I looked up the address for “Puccini” (224 South Beverly Drive) on Google Maps. It's now “Ruth's Chris Steak House”, which seems to have gone out of business.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ru...!4d-118.398768

PS: My mom (also a reporter) liked to tell the story of how she first met Sinatra.

She was down at the Police Station, following up on a story in the mid-1940s, when in march two police officers with a “skinny kid” in handcuffs. Of course, it was Frank Sinatra. He'd gotten arrested for getting in a fistfight.

Despite this violent infraction, my mom said that Sinatra was the picture of charm, was very friendly, and spoke with her at length. Being that this was right after WWII, and my mother was Japanese, not every person was so friendly to her.

A few phone calls were made, and Sinatra was released without being charged. Of course, my mom never reported this story; back then, reporters routinely covered up celebrity high jinks.

corriganville Aug 6, 2020 3:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LA_walks (Post 9002645)

While most of the film was shot in Albuquerque, New Mexico, the courtyard apartments were built on the site of Stalag 13 from Hogan's Heroes in Culver City on the old 40 Acre backlot. See http://www.retroweb.com/40acres_final_years.html.

Jerry

HossC Aug 6, 2020 3:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 9002800)

My dad always told me he was friends with Frank Sinatra back in his days as a reporter, so I admit I was thrilled to find this! I wish I found a photo of them together, but I'll take what I can get!

Though the letter is not dated, Sinatra mentions “High Hopes”, which is a song he released on June 5th, 1959. And June 9th was a Tuesday in 1959, so I think it's reasonable to assume this letter is from 1959.

At first glance I thought the letter mentioned the Garden of Allah, but on closer inspection it's actually the Garden of Eden. Anyone familiar with this place?

I don't know if it's connected, but Frank Sinatra sang "High Hopes" in the 1959 Frank Capra movie "A Hole in the Head" sitting in front of the Garden of Eden Hotel:

Video Link


From Wikipedia: "The actual hotel used for the exterior shots was the Cardozo Hotel, located on Miami Beach's Ocean Drive."

The only Garden of Eden I found in the 1960 CD was a rest home on W Olympic.

Lwize Aug 6, 2020 4:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LA_walks (Post 9002650)
"Century City Shopping Center...
...was apparently called Century Square Shopping Center at the start."

was there a supermarket on the lower level?

Yes - Mayfair Market, which later became (and still is) Gelson's Market.

Scott Charles Aug 6, 2020 5:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 9002845)
I don't know if it's connected, but Frank Sinatra sang "High Hopes" in the 1959 Frank Capra movie "A Hole in the Head" sitting in front of the Garden of Eden Hotel:

Video Link


From Wikipedia: "The actual hotel used for the exterior shots was the Cardozo Hotel, located on Miami Beach's Ocean Drive."

The only Garden of Eden I found in the 1960 CD was a rest home on W Olympic.

I know that song! I didn't recognize it by its title, though! Thanks for the link, HossC!

I wonder where the actual “Garden of Eden” was? I can't imagine Ol' Blue Eyes having a get-together at a rest home! :haha:

It can't be a typo, the name is right there on the letterhead...

ethereal_reality Aug 6, 2020 5:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 9002905)
Yes - Mayfair Market, which later became (and still is) Gelson's Market.


Here's a glimpse of the Jetsonish interior of the Century Square Mayfair, Century City.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/SSG2ic.jpg
malloffameblogspot




And a rather dismal pic of the exterior.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/ja0UKZ.jpg
malloffameblogspot

note that he lamp-posts are decorated for Christmas. (my dad made large candles like that out of coffee cans and vinyl). . .he made two of them; one for each end of our front porch.



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