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Earl Boebert Mar 19, 2020 8:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8867399)
I agree...he was high on Bennies, a form of amphetamine. Often it was combined with alcohol.

Benzedrine was a common Pick-Me-Up drug in those days...often used by the Beat authors such as Jack Kerouac. With those pills he could type for 24 hours on his old typewriter and produced such books as "On The Road" and others. I read that book and you can tell he's stoned.

https://youtu.be/XOfCoqoYpBU

>>>>>The Benzedrine Blues......1948

And World War II pretty much ran on the stuff:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/amph...se-world-war-2

Cheers,

Earl

CityBoyDoug Mar 19, 2020 8:24 PM

https://media1.tenor.com/images/fb60...temid=12530519
tenor

The movie directors at MGM thought that the little white pills would give Judy more pep for day and night filming of the Oz classic.

Martin Pal Mar 20, 2020 6:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 8867410)
And World War II pretty much ran on the stuff:
https://allthatsinteresting.com/amph...se-world-war-2
Cheers,
Earl

Since so many took these pills, tablets, or whatever name they gave it, wonder why no one ever mentioned much about it. It's almost like they didn't know they were taking it. Was that the case? I've never heard about this, really, from films, documentaries, books or such relating to WWII. Kinda disturbing.

Of course, the Vietnam grunts all talked about being stoned.

From that article Earl linked: The drug was colloquially called “panzerschokolade.” :crazy:

ethereal_reality Mar 20, 2020 7:32 PM

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Mystery location.

Original Neg. Downtown Rambler Dealership - Los Angeles - California [1964]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/TpohMY.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/11JjUh.jpg
eBay

note the two levels of used cars.

Out of curiousity; does anyone know what the dealership's neighbor (weber) sold - - - FAR RIGHT - - > From the looks of the store I'd say appliances.


But let's take a closer look at the weber mid-century style logo.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/Jcb5fV.jpg

...........................................................perhaps, Globes? ;)




And here's a closer look at the Rambler dealership. (cropped by the seller)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/K4XPSs.jpg

I don't see a street number.



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ethereal_reality Mar 20, 2020 8:21 PM

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Here's another 'mystery' dealership.. .. .. ..This time it's a Dodge / Plymouth dealership. [1948]

Orig. neg.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/ibmBbv.jpg
eBay



There is a very cool model airplane contest inside the car showroom.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/QvFwVu.jpg
eBay

........................."Win a flight in an American Airlines Flagship over Los Angeles."....I'd be all over that! :ohyeah





Here's an enlargement.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/xjRTM0.jpg

As you can see there's a Van de Kamp store across the side-street......& I just noticed Les White's name. (that's a clue and a half)



I'll be posting a few more of these 'car dealership' negatives later tonight or tomorrow.
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Beaudry Mar 20, 2020 8:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8868504)
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But let's take a closer look at the weber mid-century style logo.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/Jcb5fV.jpg

...........................................................perhaps, Globes? ;)




And here's a closer look at the Rambler dealership. (cropped by the seller)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/K4XPSs.jpg

I don't see a street number.



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1417 S Figueroa was built as an auto dealership in 1923; architect was William Douglas Lee. It was a public garage for a spell in the 40s, but mostly various car dealers (it became Civic Center Dodge in '67 after Rambler) until it became a furniture warehouse/dealer in the mid-70s. Demolished in 1989. The area is all Convention Center now, totally unrecognizable from this shot.

The globe was the logo of Weber Showcase & Fixture:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6...20Waving.4.jpg

Beaudry Mar 20, 2020 9:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8868571)






A closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/xjRTM0.jpg
eBay


If I'm not mistaken, that's a Van de Kamp store across the side-street.



I'll be posting more of these car centric negatives later tonight or tomorrow. :)
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This one was actually a survivor until comparatively recently.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...187eee3c_c.jpg

Permits say there was a "showroom and garage" for the Albertson Motor Co., built by The Austin Co of California, in November 1923.

You can see the shape of the windows:

\https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3e1fccb6_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...64d31249_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...b6713ea4_c.jpg

So, the negative image looks south across 50th from these windows-

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...56d5c1ea_c.jpg

—at a Late Moderne Vons, big sign pylon, the whole bit, at 5029 Vermont. It's still there, just with a 1998 addition built onto the parking lot to the north:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...cabfbcda_o.png

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...368a6334_b.jpg

It was designed by Harold S. Johnson, best known for his work in Noerenberg & Johnson, and built in 1942.

ethereal_reality Mar 20, 2020 9:21 PM

:previous:

That's excellent Beaudry! Thanks for figuring out both locations. :)

CityBoyDoug Mar 21, 2020 3:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8868430)
Since so many took these pills, tablets, or whatever name they gave it, wonder why no one ever mentioned much about it. It's almost like they didn't know they were taking it. Was that the case? I've never heard about this, really, from films, documentaries, books or such relating to WWII. Kinda disturbing.

Of course, the Vietnam grunts all talked about being stoned.

From that article Earl linked: The drug was colloquially called “panzerschokolade.” :crazy:

Good points Martin. Consider this:

In the 1970's I had supervisor at my job [ he supervised a million dollar client advertising account]. We all knew he drank everyday at the bar across the street from noon till 2:00 PM but no one ever talked about it.

Flyingwedge Mar 21, 2020 4:17 AM

More Biltmore Theatre
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8866270)
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RE: The Biltmore Theater


I see that the urns, that we've been discussing, were removed prior to the 1964 demolishion.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/0qjVQ4.jpg
LAPL


P.S. I just noticed the open areas within the tall arches have been filled in.
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Four of the arches on the west side of the Biltmore Theatre had been filled when this photo was taken c. July 1924:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...01992-1855.jpg

1992-1855 at CA State Library


Here's a close-up of the entrance; July 21 was a Monday (on the sign under the characture) in 1924 and that was the year Raymond Hitchcock was in
The Caliph (those names are small but visible on the marquee in the previous photo):

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...01992-1853.jpg

1992-1853 at CA State Library


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8864274)
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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/hhmTZc.jpg
losangelestheatres

1949 - "Up on the balcony level breezeway with a policeman inspecting one of the giant vases after someone had tried to push one into the street."



Perhaps the snakes weren't that securely attached (maybe people grabbed them trying to move the urns) and were removed
at some point. That gap on the underside of this urn could be cause for concern:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...01992-1853.jpg

1992-1853 at CA State Library


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Please stay safe and healthy, everyone!

CaliNative Mar 21, 2020 4:36 AM

These are indeed "noir" times
 
Thanks Ethereal for posting the "Spanish Flu" story I requested a few weeks ago. Hopefully the weeks ahead won't be as dire, but it is not looking good. Maybe learning how they made it through the 1918 pandemic will give us some useful tips. Any more old L.A. Times stories from 1918 about the flu? They may remind us that these things come along every century or so. And once they got past the flu, they had the Roaring '20s.

Old Chinese curse: "May you live in interesting times".

ethereal_reality Mar 21, 2020 5:41 AM

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As promised - here is another car dealership negative.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/IKGad8.jpg
eBay


This one is Holiday Rambler located somewhere in Long Beach, California. [1965]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/0tjvtN.jpg
eBay

Hmm. .it looks vaguely familiar. . perhaps we have seen this one before.







Let's take a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/iOVIFd.jpg
eBay

Is it just me or are Ramblers unattractive cars?



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ethereal_reality Mar 21, 2020 6:25 AM

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This next Rambler car dealership is rather unassuming . (esp. compared to the previous dealership with the big ol' pylon)

Neg.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/HTE0Sq.jpg
eBay


The seller says this dealership was also located in Long Beach, California.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/CAxjGL.jpg
eBay





A closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/CPaNem.jpg
eBay

The zig-zag roof reminds me of the mid-century bank on Sunset that used to have the model of the Garden of Allah in the lobby.


AND we have an address number! .....20710

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/dnYMC8.jpg
detail



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HossC Mar 21, 2020 4:44 PM

:previous:

By the "DO NOT COPY" message, the same vehicles being in shot and the given location, I'm guessing that this image is from the same seller. It's labeled "CAR DEALERSHIP, AL ORTALE RAMBLER CARS LONG BEACH CAL".

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...leRambler1.jpg
ebay

However, I found the Torrance Herald article below which would suggest that Al Ortale's Rambler dealership was at 20710 Hawthorn Boulevard in Torrance. It's dated July 25, 1963.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...leRambler2.jpg
https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...leRambler3.jpg
libarch.torranceca.gov

There are still car dealerships on that block, but I think the building in the pictures disappeared in the '90s (going by Historic Aerials).

ethereal_reality Mar 21, 2020 6:24 PM

:previous:

Good find, Hoss. Your photograph is much more interesting with the space-age sign.



Here's Harvey Smith's used car lot up in Westchester. The street number is 232.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/AiKhjr.jpg
eBay

That's an interesting little bungalow at far right and I'd like to see what structures reside behind the large white fence.



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Beaudry Mar 21, 2020 7:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8869125)
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Let's take a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/iOVIFd.jpg
eBay

Is it just me or are Ramblers unattractive cars?



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https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0ac8b9d0_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...2cc3d7e1_c.jpgLong Beach Independent, 14 Aug 1963, via newspapers.com

As to their attractiveness...de gustisbus...but they do have their devotees. Part of me wants to buy this building, and all of these, and return it to a Rambler dealership.

CityBoyDoug Mar 21, 2020 8:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 8869511)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0ac8b9d0_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...2cc3d7e1_c.jpgLong Beach Independent, 14 Aug 1963, via newspapers.com

As to their attractiveness...de gustisbus...but they do have their devotees. Part of me wants to buy this building, and all of these, and return it to a Rambler dealership.

The Rambler car looked like it had been built in some Soviet Russia era plant in Moscow. The word ''design'' can't be used in the same sentence as Rambler. There was no ''design'' with the Rambler. They were the personification of drab.

Flyingwedge Mar 22, 2020 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8869444)
Here's Harvey Smith's used car lot up in Westchester. The street number is 232.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/AiKhjr.jpg
eBay

That's an interesting little bungalow at far right and I'd like to see what structures reside behind the large white fence.


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I think the ebay seller's location is incorrect. Westchester doesn't have three-digit street numbers -- but Inglewood does.
The 1950 Inglewood-Lennox Directory shows Harvey Smith Oldsmobile was at 313 N. La Brea in Inglewood, so perhaps the
used car lot was across the street at 322?

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...0directory.jpg

Ancestry.com


The 1947 Inglewood City Directory lists a shoe repair shop at 332 N. La Brea, possibly the same one at the far left of the photo
(where the "HOE REPAIR" sign is):

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...e%20repair.jpg

Ancestry.com


Here is the February 1950 Inglewood Sanborn map showing the 300 block of N. La Brea in Inglewood. The new car dealership is
at 313, on the west side of La Brea. On the east side, the house at 324 could be the one looming above the used car lot. At
328-30-32 there are three small shops, one of which could be the shoe repair shop in the photo. The residential roof seen in back
of the shoe repair sign could be the house at 402 N. La Brea, on the northeast corner of Ivy:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...%20Sanborn.jpg

ProQuest via LA Public Library

Lorendoc Mar 22, 2020 6:38 AM

^^^^^^
 
Well done, Flyingwedge:multibow:

MartinTurnbull Mar 22, 2020 5:17 PM

Henry E. Burke Realtors at 6111 Wilshire Boulevard.
 
In this photo I found recently of the May Co store, what drew my eye was the green-and-white Art Deco building sandwiched between Simon's and the Royal Center food market. Some sherlocking led me to Henry E. Burke Realtors at 6111 Wilshire Boulevard but I'd love to find a clearer photo of it. Has one been seen around these here parts?

https://martinturnbull.com/wp-conten...2449326046.jpg


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