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ethereal_reality Oct 21, 2019 4:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir Noir

Look at the extreme triangular :previous: shape in the middle of the bumper. (it's too bad he needed that front license plate)


Mr. Constable was a man of esoteric interests.

Ufologist

Etheric Weather Control.

Trevor James Constable died in San Pedro on March 31, 2016. ... Obituary

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ethereal_reality Oct 21, 2019 5:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8723180)
Have we seen the interior of the Hollenbeck Hotel Cafe?

https://i.postimg.cc/SKvnrTSx/Hol-Ho-Cafe001.jpg
odinthor collection

I don't know if we have seen this particular postcard, odinthor.

But here's look at the 1906 Christmas menu.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/xUSChY.jpg
reddit

I was curious about the Monk's Beard Salad so I did some googling.

The salad is made out of Agretti

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/AFLTHf.jpg
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It appears to be somewhat sea weedy.
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ethereal_reality Oct 21, 2019 9:33 PM

'Mystery' sand sculptures.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/aUDC82.jpg
eBay


reverse side.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/l4NIeW.jpg

The name on the first line is probably the sand sculpturist but I can't make out the last name. ...George ?

Here's the rest: "Sand Sculptured on Hill St. next to Bullocks Store. L. A."

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Earl Boebert Oct 21, 2019 9:52 PM

My guess is "Pierson"

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality Oct 22, 2019 4:32 AM

Awesome photographs, riichkay.

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay
https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...psqren4px3.jpg

Attempt suicide in bar at 1100 West 7th Street, 21 March 1952. Lying on the floor of bar, where he shot himself is victim tentatively identified as Charles Anderson...
Standing over him are two Police Officers... 25 Caliber Automatic pistol in foreground of picture.

You can see the name of the bar on the rear wall, upper right. ...The Vagabond

In 1956 it was listed in the city directory as Harold's Vagabond. (it isn't list in any other 1950s directory)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/KOwIXu.jpg
lapl


I also noticed the restroom are marked Devils..and..Angels.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/i729jN.jpg
DETAIL

...very noirish.


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ethereal_reality Oct 22, 2019 5:24 AM

Here are two amateur slides (one day, one night) of Wilshire Boulevard taken in the 1950s.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/9TcXMY.jpg
eBay

It appears the slides were taken from one of the guest rooms in the Sheraton Town House.



The night view.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/CfefrR.jpg
eBay

Pretty cool, huh. :)



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Beaudry Oct 22, 2019 7:48 AM

Hey y'all, I'm looking for something and coming up empty so maybe the sleuths here can help me out. Hoping to find a vintage shot of this Bank of America (built in 1949 and designed by Raymond Raleigh Shaw). I figured I'd at least find one in a street scene since it's so near the Crenshaw plaza but I'm not having any luck. Nothing in the Shulmans that I could find either. Thanks in advance!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...26948491_o.png

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...9926f7e6_o.png

Southwest corner of Crenshaw and Stocker. Address is 4201 S Crenshaw, also 3600, 3610 W Stocker

CityBoyDoug Oct 22, 2019 12:05 PM

https://66.media.tumblr.com/ce2ba06e...x5vo1_500.gifv
old file

This is my "Sunset Boulevard" impression?


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lKIa5783yhw/hqdefault.jpg
wsws

ethereal_reality Oct 22, 2019 5:11 PM

Here's another 1950s slide.

It's from the same seller that listed the two Wilshire Blvd. slides I posted last night.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/mNknnF.jpg
https://www.ebay.com/itm/35mm-Slide-...IAAOSwZcxdrQzZ

I'm not sure if this one was taken from the Sheraton Town House...but, as you can see, the person taking the photograph was near the top of the builfing. (if I'm not mistaken the cornice is visible at upper right)



DETAIL

Does the Town House have wrought iron enclosed mini-areas outside some of the windows? (shown below)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/2mqERg.jpg
detail

red circle foreground and top right. (also circled)




And here's a closer look at the Ritchfield Sevice Station down below.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/bs6oqH.jpg
DETAIL

Hmmm...it looks a bit like the black and white photograph of the mystery gas station with the neon running man. (it was located somewhere along Wilshire)


This one.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/oXTB2V.jpg

We never figured out where, on Wilshire, this station was located. :(

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Lorendoc Oct 22, 2019 7:33 PM

Another fine car
 
Here is another Ralph Morris photo of a less exotic car than the one recently discussed. All the caption says is "Late 1950's Cadillac 4-door sedan."

https://i.imgur.com/CkD8SQi.jpg
calisphere.org

I really like the feel of this image, and of course wondered where it was taken. There are some clues.

https://i.imgur.com/YzCcnyB.jpg

There looks to be a partial street number at the left, and there are business names as well in the store window. I looked for "Bert Appell" in the early 60's CDs and found one listed at 3182 W 8th street. This is a storefront in the Haddon Hall apartments, just across the street from the Ambassador Hotel.

Here is the "now" view, the tenants seem a bit more down-market:

https://i.imgur.com/aFd8RwH.jpg
GSV

I wondered what sort of business Bert Appell & Co would have been in. There are a couple of references to commercial real estate transactions in the LAT involving them, but nothing else. The photo shows a number of businesses at 3182 consisting of a personal name followed by "& Co." They're just a bit too blurry for me to read.

But, looking at the right side of the original photo gives the probable reason the picture was taken.

https://i.imgur.com/mfKc2zg.jpg

The early 60's CDs show "Morris-Associates" at 3186 W 8th, which was Ralph Morris's business name. Can anyone read the word below "Ralph Morris"? I wonder if that Caddy (what year?) was his car...

HossC Oct 22, 2019 7:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8725595)

Here's another 1950s slide.

It's from the same seller that listed the two Wilshire Blvd. slides I posted last night.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/mNknnF.jpg
https://www.ebay.com/itm/35mm-Slide-...IAAOSwZcxdrQzZ

I'm not sure if this one was taken from the Sheraton Town House...but, as you can see, the person taking the photograph was near the top of the building. (if I'm not mistaken the cornice is visible at upper right)

I think that the Town House is a fair guess for the photographer's location. Here's a 1956 aerial with Wilshire at the bottom. The intersection with the Richfield station is S Virgil and W 6th. The building to the left of the wrought iron is the Shriners Hospital for Children, and the tall building in the background is the former American Storage Co tower at 3636 Beverly Boulevard.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...HouseView1.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

All of the small houses seem to have gone, but several of the larger buildings are still standing.

HossC Oct 22, 2019 8:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 8725175)

Hey y'all, I'm looking for something and coming up empty so maybe the sleuths here can help me out. Hoping to find a vintage shot of this Bank of America (built in 1949 and designed by Raymond Raleigh Shaw). I figured I'd at least find one in a street scene since it's so near the Crenshaw plaza but I'm not having any luck. Nothing in the Shulmans that I could find either. Thanks in advance!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...26948491_o.png

It looks like I tried to find a picture of the bank back in 2016 when e_r highlighted the ship on building (see post #33965). At least this detail from a 1954 image shows that the bank originally extended right up to Stocker Street (building just left of center) and has since been truncated.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...nCrenshaw1.jpg
USC Digital Library

I guess the search goes on...

Bristolian Oct 22, 2019 9:11 PM

:previous:
It makes a lot of sense that a good portion of the building has been demolished because it wouldn't have taken much of an architect to design what's left of it.

Hollywood Graham Oct 22, 2019 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8725833)
Here is another Ralph Morris photo of a less exotic car than the one recently discussed. All the caption says is "Late 1950's Cadillac 4-door sedan."

https://i.imgur.com/CkD8SQi.jpg
calisphere.org

I really like the feel of this image, and of course wondered where it was taken. There are some clues.

https://i.imgur.com/YzCcnyB.jpg

There looks to be a partial street number at the left, and there are business names as well in the store window. I looked for "Bert Appell" in the early 60's CDs and found one listed at 3182 W 8th street. This is a storefront in the Haddon Hall apartments, just across the street from the Ambassador Hotel.

Here is the "now" view, the tenants seem a bit more down-market:

https://i.imgur.com/aFd8RwH.jpg
GSV

I wondered what sort of business Bert Appell & Co would have been in. There are a couple of references to commercial real estate transactions in the LAT involving them, but nothing else. The photo shows a number of businesses at 3182 consisting of a personal name followed by "& Co." They're just a bit too blurry for me to read.

But, looking at the right side of the original photo gives the probable reason the picture was taken.

https://i.imgur.com/mfKc2zg.jpg

The early 60's CDs show "Morris-Associates" at 3186 W 8th, which was Ralph Morris's business name. Can anyone read the word below "Ralph Morris"? I wonder if that Caddy (what year?) was his car...

1957 Cad Fleetwood

Lorendoc Oct 23, 2019 4:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8725595)
Here's another 1950s slide.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/oXTB2V.jpg[/URL]

We never figured out where, on Wilshire, this station was located. :(

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How about:

https://i.imgur.com/EJPA3G8.jpg
GSV

...but the contour of Wilshire doesn't look exactly right, it's hard to say. There were a few Union 76 stations in Beverly Hills back in the day:

https://i.imgur.com/QBYCf3w.jpg
ancestry.com

ethereal_reality Oct 23, 2019 5:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8725842)
I think that the Town House is a fair guess for the photographer's location. Here's a 1956 aerial with Wilshire at the bottom.
The intersection with the Richfield station is S Virgil and W 6th. The building to the left of the wrought iron is the Shriners Hospital for Children,
and the tall building in the background is the former American Storage Co tower at 3636 Beverly Boulevard.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...HouseView1.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

All of the small houses seem to have gone, but several of the larger buildings are still standing.

Thanks Hoss

Since I didn't have anything better to do this afternoon ;), ..I tried to figure out which room the slide was taken (from).


I narrowed it down to the room beneath the red arrow.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/xj6EUh.jpg
gsv

Although the 'wrought' iron has been modernized, only two vertical rows of windows are embellished with the 'wrought' iron in that area of the building.



You can see it more clearly in this view.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/kNYKhv.jpg
google-earth

It can't be one of the other windows on the right because the fire escape is in the way.


Here's the ebay slide again.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/mNknnF.jpg

There's the iron finial in the foreground...and the 'wrought' iron at the end of the ledge.
I think (hope) the dark overhang is the cornice at the top of the building. (if not, my theory crumbles)



I need a life.

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ethereal_reality Oct 23, 2019 5:50 AM

Earlier today, I happened upon this unusual 35mm slide of a DC 8 flying over downtown Los Angeles.



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/wkRlHy.jpg
eBay





Let's take a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/3Mxrs2.jpg

I believe we're looking towards downtown from the southeast...right? :shrug:.....So much has changed!


Also..how do you think this slide was taken? Is the jetliner superimposed over an image of downtown Los Angeles? .... I ask because the wings look almost transparent.


LINK

BillinGlendaleCA Oct 23, 2019 8:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8726445)
Earlier today, I happened upon this unusual 35mm slide of a DC 8 flying over downtown Los Angeles.



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/wkRlHy.jpg
eBay





Let's take a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/3Mxrs2.jpg

I believe we're looking towards downtown from the southeast...right? :shrug:.....So much has changed!


Also..how do you think this slide was taken? Is the jetliner superimposed over an image of downtown Los Angeles? .... I ask because the wings look almost transparent.


LINK

I think it's probably real and was shot from a spotter plan trailing the DC-8. The shadows on the plane and ground match. I think the transparency of the wings is just an optical illusion. Many of the buildings in the foreground are still there.

Handsome Stranger Oct 23, 2019 9:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8725086)

Nice to see the little drive-in at Wilshire and Hoover. I wonder if was still a Simon's location by then.

More recently that little parcel of land has been a sad and crumbling parking lot. Now, however, there's a massive new skyscraper being built. It will take up the entire lot...east of Commonwealth Ave, anyway. The city becomes ever more densely built, while the streets remain the same size.

CityBoyDoug Oct 24, 2019 2:12 PM

https://media.millenniumhotels.com/L...r=180427191113
Biltmore Hotel

Music played in the Biltmore Ballroom in 1930 Link>>>>below


https://youtu.be/FoBvIlo7DWI

or

https://youtu.be/TOBZahXDoqc


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